Episode 8: "Common Threads" Options

[WhataJoke]

LOL! She married Salman Rushdie and then went through one crazy messy divorce. I'd say she's got some strong opinions... just not sure of the political aspect

I'm guessing legalized herb is a big issue on her political agenda.

[bJason]

If the service is bad 15% and that means that you did not even SAY I am sorry I am so busy or something.
I can forgive a server anything if they are nice
about it......and I have.

RUDE and bad.....very little.

If they are too stupid to figure out that being gracious will make them money than they better go to work somewhere else.....I attribute it to poor training and management...You keep up on that stuff....You are on top of that.

YES .....you can teach someone manners.

Believe it or not IHOP has one of the BEST training programs around...It's accredited and fantastic.
We implemented those techniques at our places...But many of the IHOPS I go to you would
never know it.

Hiya Mluv...Good to see you out and about

There have been VERY RARE (2) occassions where I have "stiffed" a server. Both times, I made sure to consult with a manager as to why I was so doing. Leaving it up to them (mgrs.) to "school" the servers on how they earn their money and why they didn't earn it from me.

[WhataJoke]

Too true, Simon. Food in a pressure cooker gets tender... Chefs in one get kinda tough and hard to swallow.
If that was my event they catered after no sleep for 36 hours I'd be more than a little irritated. There is no way you can be at the peak of perfomance when you're sleep deprived.
Those folks don't specialize in catering except if you factor in previous challenges. At that point you might not want to draw attention to past cluster clucks.
We'll watch because we can't help ourselves but for me I think it will be in horror.

Like I just mentioned, we are in the middle of May's sweeps ratings period.
What do you think is going to get more folks to watch.

Chefs playing nice and making great food?

Or.

Chefs at their wits end making people eat mistake after mistake while they are at each other's sleep deprived throats?

[chucole]

Fixed it!

WAJ, you are a bad................ shut your mouth. Can you dig it?

[partsgirl]

Like I just mentioned, we are in the middle of May's sweeps ratings period.
What do you think is going to get more folks to watch.

Chefs playing nice and making great food?

Or.

Chefs at their wits end making people eat mistake after mistake while they are at each other's sleep deprived throats?

Oh, heck, Mr. Reynolds! I know, I know.

[bJason]

If you give them a tip for doing a bad job, what is their incentive to do a good job? Reminds me of schools only giving pass or fail grades so nobody feels bad. Call me old fashion, but work hard, be rewarded. Don't and be left no tip. (although one waitress cried the whole time we were at a resteraunt. A family member had died and she didn't have the money to go home. On a $5.oo tab, I gave her a $20.00 tip) Another waitress told me what was wrong, so I don't think it was a scam.

I agree 100%. I have been in the business as a server/bartender/manager and owner. If the guest (I never had "customers") is displeased with my performance, the way of showing that is "hit me where I live". Waiting tables/bartending IS hard work that requires DEFINITE skill sets. BUT, as a waiter/bartender, if I don't bring those skills to every guest and to the best of my ability (and, as my income is derived pretty much exclusively from those guests - read: private contractor), my income should reflect that. I would not pay a plumber for sh!tty work. Why should I EXPECT payment for the same?!?! As a service professional, I sould expect that my income will be a reflection of the job that I do. COLD HARD FACTS.

Unfortunately, your ideals do seem to be "old fashioned". So are mine! Let US keep them alive!! Guests pay for food and they pay for service - seperately.

[partsgirl]

I'm guessing legalized herb is a big issue on her political agenda.

That lady has one serious case of the "snackies"...

[Kristlkrost]

There have been VERY RARE (2) occassions where I have "stiffed" a server. Both times, I made sure to consult with a manager as to why I was so doing. Leaving it up to them (mgrs.) to "school" the servers on how they earn their money and why they didn't earn it from me.

Oh you just hush now and kiss me
How would you like that
cooked .....big boy????

This post has been edited by Kristlkrost: May 7, 2008 - 03:08 PM

[bJason]

Oh you just hush now and kiss me
How would you like that
cooked .....big boy????

Kissing, oh yes! I always want mine RARE!

[Kristlkrost]

I agree 100%. I have been in the business as a server/bartender/manager and owner. If the guest (I never had "customers") is displeased with my performance, the way of showing that is "hit me where I live". Waiting tables/bartending IS hard work that requires DEFINITE skill sets. BUT, as a waiter/bartender, if I don't bring those skills to every guest and to the best of my ability (and, as my income is derived pretty much exclusively from those guests - read: private contractor), my income should reflect that. I would not pay a plumber for sh!tty work. Why should I EXPECT payment for the same?!?! As a service professional, I sould expect that my income will be a reflection of the job that I do. COLD HARD FACTS.

Unfortunately, your ideals do seem to be "old fashioned". So are mine! Let US keep them alive!! Guests pay for food and they pay for service - seperately.

Swoooon..... tawk restaurant to me baby.
I seriously could ...all day....And have!!

There is a science to being a great
server....And I am one HELL of a scientist.
I gowontee.

[Kristlkrost]

My sons 8 yr old friend thinks that Padma is "Smokin' Hot".

The kidlet has good taste...But tell him..hands off..I don't say it often but she is drop dead gawjus to me.
If she's high all the time... that much better
for me

[teleburst]

Uh and what do you know for a fact about this show? Lee Anne's blog spells it out: She made an apple dessert. Of course the kids will like that. Mark probably could have made a great curry and apple dessert would have carried the day with the kids so it's a not a relevant point of comparison.
Not to mention the fact that they said family of four and it turned out to be 4 kids was deliberately misleading and Mark says his recipie would have changed accordingly.

Of course he'd rationalize that now.

Thanks for admitting that Stephanie's MEAL was better than Mark's. Worst food goes. Boom.

Uh how is deliberately misleading people irrelevant. Saying "it was the childrens least favorite" implys that all the children ate it which was not the case and makes it a very dubious way to support Mark's elimination.

It only implies that if you're looking for another reason to call a fix.

Proven fact! Here is the link!
Impossible to feed a family of four with $10 at Whole Food$
LMAO Readmitted as undeniable.

Sorry. doesn't prove anything. This person was only buying for 4. The chefs were buying for at least 8.If I tried to prove this dish (or just about any composed dish/meal) by cooking for myself for $2.50, I'd find it impossible as well. Also remember that prices were quite a bit lower last October. Have you seen the price of tomatoes, bread, milk, etc? This things have skyrocketed in the past 4 months alone due to the continued falling dollar and rising gas prices. I was just at Save-A-Lot yesterday buying some staples and they had a package of 3 beefsteak tomatoes for $2.60! That's Save-A-Lot! I seem to remember them having virtually the same thing for less than $2 last year.

Your minimum effort/maximizing $10 point is rendered invalid by the proven pantry shenanigans. Second episode in a row that rewards cheaters and penalized people who followed the "rules".
Cucumbers are about as empty as canned diced tomatoes right? Mark's dish probably provides more vitamins than Stephaine's now that I think about it.

Cucumbers are FAR more empty than canned tomatoes. Cucumbers have some fiber value, but they have very few vitamins and minerals for their size.

Everyone had a list of what was in the pantry. Everyone had the same access to the pantry. Whine, whine, whine. That's another reason why we can't say that you couldn't do the challenge at Whole Foods. We don't know what they HAD to buy. We don't know if they had to buy herbs or which items they might have had to buy. Even though that blogperson did eliminate some things that they figured were in the pantry, we just don't know that herbs HAD to be purchased for instance. And if they did have to be purchased, they would only have to be purchased once for 8 portions, cutting the cost virtually in half (same with some of the rest of the ingredients that she tried to buy for 4, like the brussel sprouts).

And yet you still can't disprove it.

And you can't prove it, so I guess we're even. However, I'm not subjecting myself to a show that drives me crazy and that I consider a total fraud, so I think I'm a little ahead.

[WhataJoke]

Of course he'd rationalize that now.

Thanks for admitting that Stephanie's MEAL was better than Mark's. Worst food goes. Boom.

Uh anyone would rationalize that way if they had been mislead.
Where did I say Mark's was the worst. The children liked Stephanies appples. In season two the surfers like Franks Cream and strawberries but they still sent him home. Your analogy is flawed by previous top Chef precedent.

Boom! LMAO

It only implies that if you're looking for another reason to call a fix.

Which is what you would call it when disgusting food beats average food.

Sorry. doesn't prove anything. This person was only buying for 4. The chefs were buying for at least 8.If I tried to prove this dish (or just about any composed dish/meal) by cooking for myself for $2.50, I'd find it impossible as well. Also remember that prices were quite a bit lower last October. Have you seen the price of tomatoes, bread, milk, etc? This things have skyrocketed in the past 4 months alone due to the continued falling dollar and rising gas prices. I was just at Save-A-Lot yesterday buying some staples and they had a package of 3 beefsteak tomatoes for $2.60! That's Save-A-Lot! I seem to remember them having virtually the same thing for less than $2 last year.

Uh hello the challange was to make a meal for a family of four for $10 bucks not a family of four plus production plates and judges samples. Thats the stated challenge and its obvious that it's impossible. Once again the show is deliberately misleading the viewer.

Cucumbers are FAR more empty than canned tomatoes. Cucumbers have some fiber value, but they have very few vitamins and minerals for their size.

I'll have to do some reasearch on that. But Mark wins simply on fresh vs. canned.

Everyone had a list of what was in the pantry. Everyone had the same access to the pantry. Whine, whine, whine. That's another reason why we can't say that you couldn't do the challenge at Whole Foods. We don't know what they HAD to buy. We don't know if they had to buy herbs or which items they might have had to buy. Even though that blogperson did eliminate some things that they figured were in the pantry, we just don't know that herbs HAD to be purchased for instance. And if they did have to be purchased, they would only have to be purchased once for 8 portions, cutting the cost virtually in half (same with some of the rest of the ingredients that she tried to buy for 4, like the brussel sprouts).

Please we had people stripping leaves off produce at the register and your still trying to say that this was a legit deal? It's a farce.

And you can't prove it, so I guess we're even. However, I'm not subjecting myself to a show that drives me crazy and that I consider a total fraud, so I think I'm a little ahead.

Say the guy who habitutally responds to me. LMAO

[Bed & Breakfast]

Tele, did you miss it when Corporate Headquarters reinvented the figure of Uncle Ben?

I'm serious, they did. It was some major PR initiative. Uncle Ben has been reinvented as a successful corporate chairman, with a corporate history and corporate office you can visit. Uncle Ben's grains of wisdom. Considering the actual history of the Uncle Ben figure, this must be one of the most dramatic and thorough make-overs ever attempted. The brand name remains the same - and the "Uncle" part - but the mythic house servant or waiter is gone. The mythic figure behind the name is now a entrepreneurial pioneer and model of business success.


Aunt Jemima, however, has not had a similar corporate makeover. Yet.

This is not necessarily a "bigotted" or "racist" makeover.
Almost every product goes through this type of regeneration every so often. For example, "Betty Crocker" has had like 8 different looks over the years.

"Uncle Ben", however, has probably had the most dramatic change.

[Kristlkrost]

And you can't prove it, so I guess we're even. However, I'm not subjecting myself to a show that drives me crazy and that I consider a total fraud, so I think I'm a little ahead.

Edited for brevity whoever he is.

Teleluv...Brilliant deducer and writer.
A man with consummate taste in music and women...Animal lover...hard working server guy
and server of your country along with being a world traveler and a gourmet cook...Yeah your kitchen is abysmal but hey.....we deal. I offer you a song and a brick wall.....Have at it honey

Bang bang bang ouch!!!




This post has been edited by Kristlkrost: May 7, 2008 - 05:12 PM

[dogabone]

This is not necessarily a "bigotted" or "racist" makeover.
Almost every product goes through this type of regeneration every so often. For example, "Betty Crocker" has had like 8 different looks over the years.

"Uncle Ben", however, has probably had the most dramatic change.

Any of y'all ever watch The Critic? In one episode, Jay is asked to promote Savvy Indian Chewing Tobacco. The picture on the can is an Indian in a corporate suit sitting behind a large desk.

But we find out the product was formerly called Savage Indian and had quite a different rendition of the Native American on the can.

Here's your reference:
The Critic

[Bed & Breakfast]

Well, but no Quaker could find Quaker Oats Man as offensive as everyone should find past incarnations of Uncle Ben. LOL

And if they start making over Quaker Oats Man, they may as well re-examine the University of Pennsylvania's "Fighting Quakers" sports teams. The teams are properly called just "The Quakers" but everyone likes to say "Fighting Quakers."

I get to hear local sportscasters say things like "And the Fighting Quakers brutalized and decimated the Mohawks, it was a bloodbath..."

The University of North Dakota, though consistently being in the top 5 Division II schools, have were kept from participating in the National Championship for a couple years because they refused to change their "Fighting Sioux" name and mascot. They have since, however, won their lawsuit.

[Kristlkrost]

This is not necessarily a "bigotted" or "racist" makeover.
Almost every product goes through this type of regeneration every so often. For example, "Betty Crocker" has had like 8 different looks over the years.

"Uncle Ben", however, has probably had the most dramatic change.

I thought the changes were to quell the racist looks of the past and inferences????

I guess I misunderstood Simon.
'Cause the old Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemimah are considered awfully racist by today's standards.
I don't think changing those images is racist...They may not have a done a great job but at least they tried... There was a public outcry for that change.

This post has been edited by Kristlkrost: May 7, 2008 - 05:25 PM

[SecondTry]

ARGH!!!!!!!!!

Dan's boyfriend is sick. We're not hitting Nikki's restaurant tonight.

[chucole]

ARGH!!!!!!!!!

Dan's boyfriend is sick. We're not hitting Nikki's restaurant tonight.

Oh no! I was looking forward to your review.