Episode 8: "Common Threads" Options

[partsgirl]

Pack plenty of beans and rice!! It's deserted, but we can still eat good!

Sounds alright by me!

[WhataJoke]

Not unless it was whole wheat naan bread paired with a legume. Nutrition hasn't changed in the last hour.

LOL we are never going to agree. But the facts remain:

The Judges this week used a rule from the challange as a basis for elimination where there was a clearly inferior tasting dish ("offputting" in Tom's own words), as opposed to last week the rules were ignored and a team that followed them was eliminated.

And it's not a coincidence that what I have been saying all along is comming true. They are offing chefs based on the drama factor. This is done obviously to ratchet the conflict and pressure for Wedding Wars. You'll see the payoff next week.

After that I'm sure they will dump the headcases and try to get the few legitimately talented peeps into the finale to salvage some of the show's legitimacy.

[johnw]

I don't see how Tom could call the dish "offputting" and it have good flavor. I mean seriously, no matter how much damage control they do on the blogs, its just not going to wash.

I don't know why you would call Chef Smith's Blog "damage control". As a guest judge with no connection to Bravo or the Magical Elves, he is unique in that he can give an honest opinion of what the food tastes like.

[SimonBao]

And to answer "What would you have cooked?"

Quickfire: Honestly have no idea. I did a random check through all my chicken recipes and all of them take at least 20 minutes. Maybe a rice and beans mix or something.

Elimination: Since everyone went either poultry or meatless, I might have risked doing a chili. It would depend on how much access I had to the TC pantry and what was there, but I can't imagine that I'd have to buy more than the meat, the kidney beans, tomatoes for a base for the sauce, and some kind of green vegetable.

Second, I wasn't even aware there is such a product as Microwave Rice. Afraid I would have wasted time just reading the product labels to understand what they were.

Elimination round, if you'd like chili, if you like spicy chili, can save money/make it healthy with ground turkey. It's not the same, but it's also fine. Cornbread with that, if you know a recipe, and you're going very high protein then. I certainly do not know a recipe though.

[WhataJoke]

Second, I wasn't even aware there is such a product as Microwave Rice. Afraid I would have wasted time just reading the product labels to understand what they were.

Elimination round, if you'd like chili, if you like spicy chili, can save money/make it healthy with ground turkey. It's not the same, but it's also fine. Cornbread with that, if you know a recipe, and you're going very high protein then. I certainly do not know a recipe though.

Brazilian Fejuada with some white rice on the side. Yummy!

[teleburst]

What is racist about condemning Rev Wright for claiming that the Govt introduced the AIDS virus to kill Blacks, or the American people brought 9/11 on themselves? It isn't so much about race but the fact that Rev Wright is spewing anti-American garbage. The Rev Wright may be the albatross that sinks Obama in November should he get the Democratic nomination which seems likely.

Funny, I don't remember wall-to-wall coverage of the Right Reverend Pat Robertson when he said virtually the same thing (it wasn't ignored but there was nothing like the firestorm that has erupted over Rev. Wright). I don't remember the right wing component of the media going through the countless hours of outrageous claims that Roberton has made over the years on his TV shows. I don't think I've seen more than a single clip of John Hagee making a single controversial statement that I'm sure could be backed up with plenty of whacko stuff.

I think there's an undercurrent of "look at the crazy black man, honey" that's running through not only right wing outlets like Fox but also more left-leaning organizations like CNN. Of course, it probably helps that I watch Jon Stewart daily since they distill it in a focused and humorous manner. They had a great clip last night about Billy Graham, pulled from the Nixon tapes where he smacks down the Jews in a pretty bad way, and this is the first I've heard of it. And here's a guy who's been the spiritual advisor for virtually every president since then.

[SecondTry]

Second, I wasn't even aware there is such a product as Microwave Rice.

It's okay, Simon--you can call me Jim.

[SecondTry]

Cornbread with that, if you know a recipe, and you're going very high protein then. I certainly do not know a recipe though.

I do, but not well enough to do it from memory.

[NiCi]

What PG wrote:



What WAJ Wrote:


Dang, WAJ. You're so much more eloquent than I.

I dunno, I kinda liked the "cat gakked" quote myself!
Very Visual!

[WhataJoke]

I don't know why you would call Chef Smith's Blog "damage control". As a guest judge with no connection to Bravo or the Magical Elves, he is unique in that he can give an honest opinion of what the food tastes like.

Here is what he said about Mark:
"Mark: I love curry and the dish had nice flavor but his attitude sucked!!!"

And Lisa:
"Lisa, well, simply just had no flavor, plus I had issues with the chicken bones. I think we must be careful about sharp bones. My puppies don't get them and surely don't serve them to my kids."

Are you kidding me?!? So everyone's food was great but Lisa's was bland and boney and they sent Mark home?

How does this guy thinking Stephanie's food was great mesh with his comments about her dish on the show?

[partsgirl]

Second, I wasn't even aware there is such a product as Microwave Rice. Afraid I would have wasted time just reading the product labels to understand what they were.

Elimination round, if you'd like chili, if you like spicy chili, can save money/make it healthy with ground turkey. It's not the same, but it's also fine. Cornbread with that, if you know a recipe, and you're going very high protein then. I certainly do not know a recipe though.

Simon, in my opinion, microwave rice is foul stuff. It is packed with enough sodium to cause sane dieticians to scream travesty. Some companies, like Uncle Bens, have a plain rice with out all that sodium, but honestly, it's not that hard to make real rice! I try very, very hard to stay away from the micro stuff. Now I have question for you. What makes corn bread packed with protein besides the single egg used to bind it together? Most recipes use about 1/3 cup corn meal, 1-2 cups white flour, 1/4 cup white sugar, a splash of milk (maybe a bit more) and one egg. Corn isn't a very healthy anything. It is simply sugar. So, am I missing something, here? Or were you implying the egg and milk?

[partsgirl]

I dunno, I kinda liked the "cat gakked" quote myself!
Very Visual!

LOL! I'm all about the visual! Just sometimes wish I had the eloquence!

[SivartAlappes]

And to answer "What would you have cooked?"

Quickfire: Honestly have no idea. I did a random check through all my chicken recipes and all of them take at least 20 minutes. Maybe a rice and beans mix or something.

Elimination: Since everyone went either poultry or meatless, I might have risked doing a chili. It would depend on how much access I had to the TC pantry and what was there, but I can't imagine that I'd have to buy more than the meat, the kidney beans, tomatoes for a base for the sauce, and some kind of green vegetable.

1) Yay! Someone's playing my game!
2) Your statement "all my chicken recipes...take at least 20 minutes" is part of why I think I'd be GREAT on Top Chef. I think that a LOT of cooks would have a similar train of thought of "what do I know how to make that blahblahblah...". ME? My train of thought goes "What would taste good?" I don't go through recipes in my head, I go through flavors and what compliments one another.
3) The chili idea is brilliant! I'd say do chili and grilled cheese! It's something everyone loves! If the kids don't like chili (I for one STILL don't like chili... I'm not a fan of kidney beans) there's still the sandwich for them! That's what my mom made in my house... if she ever made chili, there'd be grilled cheese too to appease my sister and I.

[SecondTry]

1) Yay! Someone's playing my game!
2) Your statement "all my chicken recipes...take at least 20 minutes" is part of why I think I'd be GREAT on Top Chef. I think that a LOT of cooks would have a similar train of thought of "what do I know how to make that blahblahblah...". ME? My train of thought goes "What would taste good?" I don't go through recipes in my head, I go through flavors and what compliments one another.
3) The chili idea is brilliant! I'd say do chili and grilled cheese! It's something everyone loves! If the kids don't like chili (I for one STILL don't like chili... I'm not a fan of kidney beans) there's still the sandwich for them! That's what my mom made in my house... if she ever made chili, there'd be grilled cheese too to appease my sister and I.

I'd have no problem with the cheese, but the miniscule budget would likely have precluded it. If I had to choose between leaner meat or meat-and-cheese, I'd go as lean as I could on the meat and still be under budget.

[SivartAlappes]

I certainly do not know a recipe though.

for which? Chili or cornbread?

I'd still say a grilled cheese for the kids who might not like chili... but cornbread is a good idea. I'm thinking now chili with fried cornbread would be cool.

[notevayas]

Well, but no Quaker could find Quaker Oats Man as offensive as everyone should find past incarnations of Uncle Ben. LOL

And if they start making over Quaker Oats Man, they may as well re-examine the University of Pennsylvania's "Fighting Quakers" sports teams. The teams are properly called just "The Quakers" but everyone likes to say "Fighting Quakers."

I get to hear local sportscasters say things like "And the Fighting Quakers brutalized and decimated the Mohawks, it was a bloodbath..."

I missed this post. I think the new incarnations are fine. As a kid, the only time I thought about it, I found that having an old fashioned pretend Aunt and Uncle on food boxes was cool. The Quaker Oats guy was like Benjamin Franklin, familiar, and good PR for Quakers.

Sports is a different story. Fighting Quakers sounds as provocative as the organization called "Jews for Jesus". Also, if it is wrong to call a team, the "Brownskins", it is wrong to call a team "The Washington Redskins".

I copied this from wikipedia..

In April 2001 the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights called for an end to the use of Native American images and team names by non-Native schools, stating, "These references, whether mascots and their performances, logos, or names, are disrespectful and offensive to American Indians and others and are particularly inappropriate and insensitive in light of the long history of forced assimilation that American Indian people have endured in this country." The commission declared that "the stereotyping of any racial, ethnic, religious or other group, when promoted by our public educational institutions, teaches all students that stereotyping of minority groups is acceptable, which is a dangerous lesson in a diverse society," and noted that "false portrayals encourage biases and prejudices that have a negative effect on contemporary Indian people."


The American Psychological Association adopted a Resolution August 21, 2005, recommending the immediate retirement of American Indian mascots, symbols, images, and personalities by schools, colleges, universities, athletic teams, and organizations. The APA stated that "racism and racial discrimination are attitudes and behavior that are learned and that threaten human development" and resolved to "denounce racism in all its forms, and take proactive steps to prevent the occurrence of intolerant or racist acts."

[partsgirl]

1) Yay! Someone's playing my game!
2) Your statement "all my chicken recipes...take at least 20 minutes" is part of why I think I'd be GREAT on Top Chef. I think that a LOT of cooks would have a similar train of thought of "what do I know how to make that blahblahblah...". ME? My train of thought goes "What would taste good?" I don't go through recipes in my head, I go through flavors and what compliments one another.
3) The chili idea is brilliant! I'd say do chili and grilled cheese! It's something everyone loves! If the kids don't like chili (I for one STILL don't like chili... I'm not a fan of kidney beans) there's still the sandwich for them! That's what my mom made in my house... if she ever made chili, there'd be grilled cheese too to appease my sister and I.

I'm not a huge fan of kidney beans, either. I know Radyms & River... it's sacrilege. I sometimes substitute navys or black beans. They make me happy.

[ITSJUSTMEAOD]

WE AT BRAVO HAVE FELT MUCH COMPASSION FOR THE CONFUSION WHICH HAS PLAGED MS. ABDULE
SOOOOOOOOOOOO.....HAVE MADE THIS SECOND EPISODE 8 THREAD.....TO AVOID ANY COMPLICATIONS .............
Discuss the episode.

BACK AT YA

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN

[notevayas]

Funny, I don't remember wall-to-wall coverage of the Right Reverend Pat Robertson when he said virtually the same thing (it wasn't ignored but there was nothing like the firestorm that has erupted over Rev. Wright). I don't remember the right wing component of the media going through the countless hours of outrageous claims that Roberton has made over the years on his TV shows. I don't think I've seen more than a single clip of John Hagee making a single controversial statement that I'm sure could be backed up with plenty of whacko stuff.

I think there's an undercurrent of "look at the crazy black man, honey" that's running through not only right wing outlets like Fox but also more left-leaning organizations like CNN. Of course, it probably helps that I watch Jon Stewart daily since they distill it in a focused and humorous manner. They had a great clip last night about Billy Graham, pulled from the Nixon tapes where he smacks down the Jews in a pretty bad way, and this is the first I've heard of it. And here's a guy who's been the spiritual advisor for virtually every president since then.

It's a pandering to fear. Everyone says they want change, but faced with the possibility, run scared to the devil they think they know.

I'm voting for Obama to end the war/occupation.

[ITSJUSTMEAOD]

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QUIRKEY

SHRUG KNEW SOMETHING WAS GONNA HAPPEN LAST NIGHT

DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS THE BBB HAVING A BREAKDOWN

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN