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Okay, I didn't watch the special on casting the show, and I haven't done all the googling I could to verify/disprove, but I'm entirely serious when I put forth the idea that "Laura" will be asked to leave because she has not been entirely truthful with the producers about her bio. The more I saw of her, the more I am convinced that "she" is a man in drag. Not making any judgments, I'm just saying that I'm getting a really strong man-vibe there! Anyone else pick up on that?
Hi Everyone. I am a white female and I just wanted to say that I thought the comment comparing Michael to Zulema smacked of racism. Perhaps it was unintended, but it did sound racist.
I don't know who made that comment or what their intentions were by it- but i think Michael has the talent, the drive, personality and the integrity to dispel any comparisons between him and zulima OR any other previous designer that has been on Project Runway thus far.
It's only been one episode, but i feel like i get a different vibe from him than i have from other designers on the show. He's younger, dresses well himself, and has alot of talent. His designs speak volumes for him.
Its still early in the game, but i'm rooting for him to blow people's minds, and all of the stereotypes out of the water!
It's only been one episode, but i feel like i get a different vibe from him than i have from other designers on the show. He's younger, dresses well himself, and has alot of talent. His designs speak volumes for him.
Its still early in the game, but i'm rooting for him to blow people's minds, and all of the stereotypes out of the water!
Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:Yes. Vincent seems like a near- or former burnout case who arrived with jitters already in full swing. He seems like a nice enough guy, but he comes off as totally frazzled. If he's like that in episode 1, what will happen when the pressure really cranks up? Might not be very pretty.
I'm not 'against' Vincent per se, but his anxiety is overwhelming, and I think it's going to get the better of him sooner rather than later. I laud his ambition to cash in his options (literally and figuratively) and take the risk, but he comes across as too...I can't come up with the right descriptive...to progress into the episodes where the stakes become really high.
Nothing that a couple of miligrams of Xanax can't fix.
Remember Andres face in PR2 when Santino screamed "I want your soul!" well, thats how I picture Vincent will look during every episode.
Not one that likes to compare one person to another, but this is Season 3 so comparisons are probably inevitable.
I had high hopes for Vincent, but it seems that he is caught in the Daniel Franco, Andre scenarios. He seems to be so nervous and uptight about making his mark and has so much of his own and his families' future livelihood invested in this venture that he can not focus on the work at hand. He goes from big picture to an inappropriately timed attention to detail that he can not focus on the items and tasks needed to get the work done appropriately within the set timeframe. IOW-this show is the wrong venue for his comeback. He seems to have the talents and goods, but he doesn't seem to have the proper vision along with that he appears to have NOT kept up with the fashion trends these past twenty years.
On another note--the PR producers seemed to have really done their job this season in finding not only legitimate skill, talent, and vision, but also a very diverse, dynamic set of personalities! This season from the onset appears it is going to be a really fun roller-coaster ride for the viewers. Very appropriate for a summer season of Project Runway, and we will get (hopefully) a wonderful fashion show finale to boot and the end! BRAVO-Bravo Project Runway!
Personal favorites are Michael, Laura, Robert (one of these three really should have won this first challenge) and Kayne. As many posters have already pointed out, Keith's design was not very innovative/original. And, for one, me/myself, am really getting tired of the asymmetrical or handkerchief hemline--PLEASE DESIGNERS, PLEASE fashion-forward to something else! This look is getting tired! Along with the halter-top bodice that seems to inevitably go with it!
First off, this is my very first post, so bear with me. I've seen all episodes for every season. I am not the 'reality show' addict type...BUT, I defend Project Runway ALL the time because...no one 'hooks up' (there's no time!hehe), no one has hopes of becoming an 'actor' from the show initially, and you can't fake anything! You can't fake how to sew or design! These people have a real dream of becoming a designer. Ok, enough soap.
The bed sheet thing was way too easy..but at least they didn't pull a 'Wendy' and start gluing food all over their models!
I thought Michael's was the most creative...beyond the valley of the obvious, and that he did'nt get enough credit for that.
I was really on Tim's side on Keith, and surprised by the judges decision! Keith really sold himself on the overall look, more than his design. Sure, it was well made, but it was a sheet! And I agree with Stacey's boot...take more sewing classes girlie!
And Vincent? ! Are we serious people?! Ok, he is going to make this season interesting...and Malan..well, all of them combined(I'll save this for the other thread). I think they're keeping him to see what he'll do next...like Wendy.
And Jeffrey's idea was a bit much, but it wasn't boring. It's hard to say who you're supposed to play to...truly the judges, of course, but can you still 'keep it real'?
The bed sheet thing was way too easy..but at least they didn't pull a 'Wendy' and start gluing food all over their models!
I thought Michael's was the most creative...beyond the valley of the obvious, and that he did'nt get enough credit for that.
I was really on Tim's side on Keith, and surprised by the judges decision! Keith really sold himself on the overall look, more than his design. Sure, it was well made, but it was a sheet! And I agree with Stacey's boot...take more sewing classes girlie!
And Vincent? ! Are we serious people?! Ok, he is going to make this season interesting...and Malan..well, all of them combined(I'll save this for the other thread). I think they're keeping him to see what he'll do next...like Wendy.
And Jeffrey's idea was a bit much, but it wasn't boring. It's hard to say who you're supposed to play to...truly the judges, of course, but can you still 'keep it real'?
Let me begin by saying....TIM WE HAVE MISSED YOU!!!! Makes my day to have his precious voice and presence back on my TV. A GEM!!!! Heidi looks FABULOUS!!! Welcome back girlfriend!! Glad you brought back Nina and Michael. Never replace them!!! No one can slice and dice like those two. LOVE THEM!!
OKAY...LOVE THE TWIST!!! Using the interior materials was so fabulous to watch. Thought several did an amazing job. LOVED Laura's. Keith's, and Michaels!! Others...well let's just say their look should be "recalled".
Shame shame Stacey for not knowing how to run an industrial machine. I mean the previous shows run for you to see what you really need to do and how you need to perform. Stanford must not be putting out...students with skills of observation.
Going to reserve my comments until next week on the rest. Let's just say.....time is ticking on Jeffrey.....
OKAY...LOVE THE TWIST!!! Using the interior materials was so fabulous to watch. Thought several did an amazing job. LOVED Laura's. Keith's, and Michaels!! Others...well let's just say their look should be "recalled".
Shame shame Stacey for not knowing how to run an industrial machine. I mean the previous shows run for you to see what you really need to do and how you need to perform. Stanford must not be putting out...students with skills of observation.
Going to reserve my comments until next week on the rest. Let's just say.....time is ticking on Jeffrey.....
I wasn't surprised by the winning dress. It was chic and wearable, and Keith clearly thought about the details. It looked like something one could put on a rack, and people would buy it -- what more could we ask for?
The judges on this show very much like marketable product, even coming from improvisational challenges. The coffee filter dress (Michael's) was indeed creative, but -- it was primarily a concept dress that noone would consider actually wearing. Plus, how did it represent his individual vision versus, say, just being a creative gimmick?
Personally I thought Robert should've won. He seems like a very even-handed professional, like the Harold (Top Chef) of the show. His dress was amazing.
The judges on this show very much like marketable product, even coming from improvisational challenges. The coffee filter dress (Michael's) was indeed creative, but -- it was primarily a concept dress that noone would consider actually wearing. Plus, how did it represent his individual vision versus, say, just being a creative gimmick?
Personally I thought Robert should've won. He seems like a very even-handed professional, like the Harold (Top Chef) of the show. His dress was amazing.
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Okay, I didn't watch the special on casting the show, and I haven't done all the googling I could to verify/disprove, but I'm entirely serious when I put forth the idea that "Laura" will be asked to leave because she has not been entirely truthful with the producers about her bio. The more I saw of her, the more I am convinced that "she" is a man in drag. Not making any judgments, I'm just saying that I'm getting a really strong man-vibe there! Anyone else pick up on that?
okay, you have to be effing kidding. who cares if she is a woman, man or something else? i don't think being a transsexual is grounds for kicking someone off the show -- ANY show, and project runway would be the last one to do it. not only is it a SERIOUS legal no-no, it's morally not okay to kick someone off a TV show because of their personal choice, especially when the merits of every designer on project runway are based on designing ability, not the sexual organ they have between their legs. if you would have done more of your research (or just watched the dang casting special), you would have found that laura is a successful architect and the mother of five children. somehow, i don't think a male-to-female transsexual could give birth.
in other news, i thought laura's and robert's designs were elegant and all-around fantastic, and vincent should've gotten the boot for his crazy DEVO hat and lack of taste! discuss.
Whaa kp2004? Who thinks she looks like man? Oh puleeze. She looks like a woman to me..they're just saying that in reference to the way she holds herself and acts...ya know, like a 'suit'..she presents herself like a stern, perfectionist [expletive deleted]. Ya know, like a MAN..only they are called 'powerful'. She has the typical architect personality/dress.
Here goes my first post ...
After watching tonight I feel that the level of our designers has stepped up from the past 2 seasons.
My picks for bottom 3 were .. Vincent, Allison and Bradley. I really think that Bradley should have been voted off tonight. I felt that he took the rug and comforter and used them as is. At least the others deconstructed their sources.
My top 3 were ... okay top 4 ... :+)
Laura, Malan, Michael, and Robert. All four of these designers used different sources in thier designs to make a cohesive dress design. Not only well designed and sewn but very wearable.
I agree that Keith's dress just did not follow the heart of the challenge. I also feel that with his win that the judges lost the intent of the challenge.
As for the creepy and hated... remember that the producers have the last word on who is on and off of the show. If you had a show with no whinny, head strong, bitchy or creepy designers it would be a little dry to watch. lol they will be on as long as needed for the ratings.
I enjoyed the preshow. It was fun seeing how and what they had to go through before being picked for the show.
see you all next week!
Ozma
After watching tonight I feel that the level of our designers has stepped up from the past 2 seasons.
My picks for bottom 3 were .. Vincent, Allison and Bradley. I really think that Bradley should have been voted off tonight. I felt that he took the rug and comforter and used them as is. At least the others deconstructed their sources.
My top 3 were ... okay top 4 ... :+)
Laura, Malan, Michael, and Robert. All four of these designers used different sources in thier designs to make a cohesive dress design. Not only well designed and sewn but very wearable.
I agree that Keith's dress just did not follow the heart of the challenge. I also feel that with his win that the judges lost the intent of the challenge.
As for the creepy and hated... remember that the producers have the last word on who is on and off of the show. If you had a show with no whinny, head strong, bitchy or creepy designers it would be a little dry to watch. lol they will be on as long as needed for the ratings.
I enjoyed the preshow. It was fun seeing how and what they had to go through before being picked for the show.
see you all next week!
Ozma
Just goes to show appearances can be decieving. Michael had a feminine, graceful garment made, not at all in with his looks and the attitude he projects. Racist? No. But he does project a more urban attitude then what he has demonstrated in his designs in the both the episode and the auditions.
Frankly, this was one of my favorites from this show. I could care less if he was pink, purple...or gay or black. He's turning into one of my favorites that I have seen.
As to the loser, I think anyone wanting to design should know how to SEW. And I think that, more then her design, kicked her off first.
I'm not too keen on the winner. But I've disccovered that I don't share the same taste as the judges. Cute? Yea. Was it innovate and new as a design? Not particulalry. I've the same basic dress hanging in my closet, in remarkably the same color. The fact that was his first dress is impressive, just not impressive enough IMO.
Frankly, I'd like to see the tattooed guy go. While deconstruction has a place, I'm really tired of designers wanting to be "new and innovative" and tearing the hell out of the clothes. It's not fashion, not new: it's at least one runway show a year.
Vincent is stuck in the 80's. If he doesn't modernize, he won't last. Which is a shame because I think he's actually a good designer.
So far Bonnie and Katie are who I've warmed up to personality wise. But the ones I look at as "wow, I'd wear that" is Michael and the old lady with 5 kids.
Frankly, this was one of my favorites from this show. I could care less if he was pink, purple...or gay or black. He's turning into one of my favorites that I have seen.
As to the loser, I think anyone wanting to design should know how to SEW. And I think that, more then her design, kicked her off first.
I'm not too keen on the winner. But I've disccovered that I don't share the same taste as the judges. Cute? Yea. Was it innovate and new as a design? Not particulalry. I've the same basic dress hanging in my closet, in remarkably the same color. The fact that was his first dress is impressive, just not impressive enough IMO.
Frankly, I'd like to see the tattooed guy go. While deconstruction has a place, I'm really tired of designers wanting to be "new and innovative" and tearing the hell out of the clothes. It's not fashion, not new: it's at least one runway show a year.
Vincent is stuck in the 80's. If he doesn't modernize, he won't last. Which is a shame because I think he's actually a good designer.
So far Bonnie and Katie are who I've warmed up to personality wise. But the ones I look at as "wow, I'd wear that" is Michael and the old lady with 5 kids.
I wasn't aware of the boards in seasons past - it's great to read the different takes on each look.
It is hard to get a read on the designers this early in the game, but it won't be long before they begin to reveal themselves (or before the show's editors create them!)
I agree that Michael's dress (coffee filters) was the most innovative and that the judges send mixed messages about what they are looking for. Remember last season...they dismissed Zuleima for poor execution on the inspiration challenge, but excused Santino for that wretched jumpsuit that was falling apart!
I thought Robert and Kanye made pretty dresses out of unusual materials and that Brandon's comforter dress or Jeffrey's ... whatever it was...should have been the losers.
Am I alone in thinking Malan is kind of interesting? Admittedly weird and affected, but interesting. And I liked his outfit. Now, having gone on record with that, he will probably turn out to be a) devious
crazy c) a cheater d) a Transylvanian spy or e) all of the above.
It is hard to get a read on the designers this early in the game, but it won't be long before they begin to reveal themselves (or before the show's editors create them!)
I agree that Michael's dress (coffee filters) was the most innovative and that the judges send mixed messages about what they are looking for. Remember last season...they dismissed Zuleima for poor execution on the inspiration challenge, but excused Santino for that wretched jumpsuit that was falling apart!
I thought Robert and Kanye made pretty dresses out of unusual materials and that Brandon's comforter dress or Jeffrey's ... whatever it was...should have been the losers.
Am I alone in thinking Malan is kind of interesting? Admittedly weird and affected, but interesting. And I liked his outfit. Now, having gone on record with that, he will probably turn out to be a) devious
crazy c) a cheater d) a Transylvanian spy or e) all of the above.
Good assesment of the designers! I agree with you. I love Laura (i think) the mom of 5. SHE'S FABULOUS. as a mom of 4, it really hit home when she made the comment about having so many kids is a "slippery slope of sweatpants and minivans" WOW - she ain't kidding. i better run out and go shopping quick :-)
Such a talented group! It's going to be a great season. Here is my one complaint and it is a HUGE one. During the commercial break they show nextel/verizon/somecellphonecrap where you can vote who will be "out". They air the commercial BEFORE THE RUNWAY SHOW!!! Are you kidding??! We haven't even seen the models on the runway and you have a list of three who will "might" be voted "out". Do that bit with the cellphone voting AFTER the RUNWAY and BEFORE the JUDGING. there are enough commercial breaks.
We all screamed and swore at the TV last night when that happened!! It just ruins it.
other than that.. I think I like Robert Best the Best. And the Momma of 5.. such a cute coat. She should work for Kate Spade.
We all screamed and swore at the TV last night when that happened!! It just ruins it.
other than that.. I think I like Robert Best the Best. And the Momma of 5.. such a cute coat. She should work for Kate Spade.
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Thank you for your kind defense. Apparently people have a hard time understanding the difference between comparisons and stereotypes, and confusing it wish identity, and thinking that somehow that relates to racism. My partner is african american and thinks that the comment made against me is rediculous. Lets just hope this doesn't get out of control.
Maybe you should rethink your stereotypes... My partner is African American too - and still under a microscope there's no comparison between the young and innocent African American guy who was humble and auditioned in Miami and Zulema - an experienced designer with lots of attitude and experience under her belt... Just because someone came to your defense doesn't make it right... Is that too out of control? I don't intend to ruin your opinionated experience on this site but you are ruining mine. Make a little more effort in the future and try not to not think and limit yourself.
Why oh why does there always have to be someone that feels the need to judge the posts others make? This is the same kind of drivel that made the Top Chef board an unpleasant experince and frankly, it's ruining MINE!
I hope that future episodes do not include any more of tearing up of things. I hate to see useable things torn up and destroyed. That we're so affluent in this country that we tear things up for entertainment is shameful. Perhaps a second hand store challenge with furniture on its last legs or items destined for the trash bin that can be repurposed could serve a similar purpose.
I have not warmed to the designers yet. I can't remember if the personalities shined through in the openers of the first couple of seasons. I think there were probably a combination of interesting people and some who didn't stand out, and those tended to be eliminated first. The second season did seem to be a hit in terms of finding interesting people to watch. My sense is that these people just aren't quite as fascinating a bunch, but maybe it's because we don't know them well enough yet.
I have not warmed to the designers yet. I can't remember if the personalities shined through in the openers of the first couple of seasons. I think there were probably a combination of interesting people and some who didn't stand out, and those tended to be eliminated first. The second season did seem to be a hit in terms of finding interesting people to watch. My sense is that these people just aren't quite as fascinating a bunch, but maybe it's because we don't know them well enough yet.
Vincent's dress was EWWWWWWWWW - those pockets were so tacky, and let's not even go near the hat......
And can we all just call Laura, Joan Crawford or Mommy Dearest I want it to stick
LOL! Hopefully, she has a sense of humor about herself. (after 5 kids, she should...) The "Mommie Dearest" moniker looks to be a shoe-in.
It was the first challenge and there were no big suprises. None. But you can't expect any. It's way to early in the game. Keith played it safe and won. So? Lots of challenges have been won that way. But lots have been lost that way, too. And Laura's... er... um... uh... I mean "Mommie Dearest's" coat was excellent. But certainly no stretch of the imagination, for her. She could've done that with her eyes closed. I think her Architectural background helped her in "seeing" what she had to work with, faster than anyone else. The only pieces that were seriously "lacking" were the bottom-two. And Brandon's was a bit underwhelming. So... No great controversy here.
But I did take notice of how Kayne used the rubber bathmat as a bodice, and then cut it to spiral down the back. It was a perfect example of using less-than-likely materials to accomplish a believeable garment. Maybe not the best, in everyone's eyes. But still, it was a wonderfully executed idea.
Again, I think Kayne and Robert are the ones to watch. I just hope we don't lose them to someone else's mistakes, in any sort of collaborative challenge.
LOL! Hopefully, she has a sense of humor about herself. (after 5 kids, she should...) The "Mommie Dearest" moniker looks to be a shoe-in.
It was the first challenge and there were no big suprises. None. But you can't expect any. It's way to early in the game. Keith played it safe and won. So? Lots of challenges have been won that way. But lots have been lost that way, too. And Laura's... er... um... uh... I mean "Mommie Dearest's" coat was excellent. But certainly no stretch of the imagination, for her. She could've done that with her eyes closed. I think her Architectural background helped her in "seeing" what she had to work with, faster than anyone else. The only pieces that were seriously "lacking" were the bottom-two. And Brandon's was a bit underwhelming. So... No great controversy here.
But I did take notice of how Kayne used the rubber bathmat as a bodice, and then cut it to spiral down the back. It was a perfect example of using less-than-likely materials to accomplish a believeable garment. Maybe not the best, in everyone's eyes. But still, it was a wonderfully executed idea.
Again, I think Kayne and Robert are the ones to watch. I just hope we don't lose them to someone else's mistakes, in any sort of collaborative challenge.
Hello everyone, this is my first post, so please be patient with me. Anyway, I still can't beleive that Vincent wasn't eliminated, that hat just looked so ridiculous, that's not to say that his dress wasn't ugly too. So far Jeffrey seemd like the Santino of this season, they sure spent a lot of time on his putting down the other designer's outfits. Another thing I noticed was in the commercials for the 3rd season, Robert would say that "It's fun being the bad guy" when he seems like a complete baby, I mean bringing his own pillow was kindof odd, and not at all "villian-ish". I hope my first post wasn't a waste of your time, see you people later!
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WOW! I was so disappointed with the judges. I thought that Robert Best should have won! His design was so innovative and gorgeous; and if not him Laura AND Michael were both better than Sleazy Keith (thats what i'm going to call him). He sewed a dress out of a bedsheet? So what???
I'm gonna agree here. The coffee filter dress would've worked just as well, had it been made of fabric. And added kudos to Mommie Dearest for making a coat. Rather than a dress. There's more to clothes, than dresses.
At first I thought they chose these 15 people for the drama they will bring to the show but at the end I realised, Yes, some will bring drama but most of them seem to be serious, talented designers. I am so glad this show is back, I love it!
I loved the coffee filter dress! Highly fashionable AND highly flammable! What innovation!
I also think that Malan won't be much of a problem if the remaining desingers can incorporate a large clove of garlic to be fashioned into the neckline of each subsequent outfit. It will help keep his fangs at bay.
I also think that Malan won't be much of a problem if the remaining desingers can incorporate a large clove of garlic to be fashioned into the neckline of each subsequent outfit. It will help keep his fangs at bay.
It was fun to see the designers all lined up to watch the first runway show. They were all nervous, excited, and shaking like the Mexican space shuttle. I loved seeing their faces light up as their outfits were transported down the runway on the models.
I really want to see Malan go up against Steven the Sommelier from Top Chef. My my my, wouldn't THAT be amusing?
I really want to see Malan go up against Steven the Sommelier from Top Chef. My my my, wouldn't THAT be amusing?
Malan =Tim Curry Dr. Frankenfurter Rocky Horror Picture Show
Hi, all! Old poster, new username.
I totally agree with TESSOH regarding Malan actually being a bit "interesting." I'm sorry, but I LOVE his bizarre laugh and totally fake & affected attitude. My favorite was his, "It's really, really bad feng shui to have fake flowers in your house" (I'm definitely putting it on the outgoing message on my answering machine). Malan & Vincent must stick around for at least a few weeks, even if it's only for entertainment value.
Lots of posters have complained about which designer should have been eliminated first and why. But, as someone else mentioned, Project Runway is a TV SHOW. The designers who make the most interesting and entertaining TV will not be let go so early on in the season. Personally, I think the calibre of this season's designers is far more impressive than last seasons and talk about "characters!" It looks like Malan, Vincent, Jeffrey & Laura are the one's making season three possibly more fun than season one (let's not even talk about season two).
Re: Tim Gunn's asking a designer to leave. Heidi was on Regis & Kelly yesterday morning and said that the episode where a designer is asked to leave by Tim does not take place for several weeks. She also said that she could not divulge the reason why they were kicked off, but that it was "really, really bad...a big no-no"! So, unless there's some re-editing and shuffling around of epis, don't look for it for a while.
Sorry, so long, but episode one and "Road to the Runway" were absolutely amazing! My only complaint is that the producers chose to add that silly voting segment to the program. Did we really need to know (only halfway through the show) which three designers were most likely to be eliminated? Kinda ruined the fun, guys!
I totally agree with TESSOH regarding Malan actually being a bit "interesting." I'm sorry, but I LOVE his bizarre laugh and totally fake & affected attitude. My favorite was his, "It's really, really bad feng shui to have fake flowers in your house" (I'm definitely putting it on the outgoing message on my answering machine). Malan & Vincent must stick around for at least a few weeks, even if it's only for entertainment value.
Lots of posters have complained about which designer should have been eliminated first and why. But, as someone else mentioned, Project Runway is a TV SHOW. The designers who make the most interesting and entertaining TV will not be let go so early on in the season. Personally, I think the calibre of this season's designers is far more impressive than last seasons and talk about "characters!" It looks like Malan, Vincent, Jeffrey & Laura are the one's making season three possibly more fun than season one (let's not even talk about season two).
Re: Tim Gunn's asking a designer to leave. Heidi was on Regis & Kelly yesterday morning and said that the episode where a designer is asked to leave by Tim does not take place for several weeks. She also said that she could not divulge the reason why they were kicked off, but that it was "really, really bad...a big no-no"! So, unless there's some re-editing and shuffling around of epis, don't look for it for a while.
Sorry, so long, but episode one and "Road to the Runway" were absolutely amazing! My only complaint is that the producers chose to add that silly voting segment to the program. Did we really need to know (only halfway through the show) which three designers were most likely to be eliminated? Kinda ruined the fun, guys!
Quote:Perhaps his nervousness comes from being in a group of young'uns. It's bad enough to be under the pressure of starting a new career again with all the responsibilities of life on your shoulders, without having to be in a group with some very young, naively enthusiastic dreamers with stars in their eyes. Although it is interesting that this group, compared to PR1 and PR2 seems to skew more toward designers with depth of experience who haven't had that opportunity to explode like a shooting star. Seems like several of them are positioned similar to Chloe Dao and have a strong technical background.
I had high hopes for Vincent, but it seems that he is caught in the Daniel Franco, Andre scenarios. He seems to be so nervous and uptight about making his mark and has so much of his own and his families' future livelihood invested in this venture that he can not focus on the work at hand. He goes from big picture to an inappropriately timed attention to detail that he can not focus on the items and tasks needed to get the work done appropriately within the set timeframe. IOW-this show is the wrong venue for his comeback. He seems to have the talents and goods, but he doesn't seem to have the proper vision along with that he appears to have NOT kept up with the fashion trends these past twenty years.
I havent backread all of your comments yet, I thought I would post my thoughts first.
Last night's show was pretty good. Overall, most of the outfits I didnt care for. I loved Michael's and Robert's the best. I think Robert should have won. Keith did an amazing job as well (love the royal blue color) but I think that Robert's dress was more interesting, I loved the back and how the necklace from the front was also the back of the dress. I also really liked Angela's outfit, except I didnt like the floral bouquet hanging off the back. I couldnt tell if she stuck that in the back of the outfit or if she made the flowers into a purse that was hanging off the model's shoulder. I also really liked Bonnie's dress.
Vincent, IMO should have gone. Even without the hat, I think the dress was a mess. The pockets especially, what was he thinking? But just making that hat alone and putting it on his model's head should have been enough to oust him.
Last night's show was pretty good. Overall, most of the outfits I didnt care for. I loved Michael's and Robert's the best. I think Robert should have won. Keith did an amazing job as well (love the royal blue color) but I think that Robert's dress was more interesting, I loved the back and how the necklace from the front was also the back of the dress. I also really liked Angela's outfit, except I didnt like the floral bouquet hanging off the back. I couldnt tell if she stuck that in the back of the outfit or if she made the flowers into a purse that was hanging off the model's shoulder. I also really liked Bonnie's dress.
Vincent, IMO should have gone. Even without the hat, I think the dress was a mess. The pockets especially, what was he thinking? But just making that hat alone and putting it on his model's head should have been enough to oust him.
Quote:What about Robert? I thought his commentary on the other designers and their efforts were hilariously droll. His prissy and sly pokes at others hint at a delicious cattiness and a sense of superiority (i.e.having worked under a "real" designer and then having already made thousands of garments of all types for Barbie). Didn't you think his commentary was reminiscent of Wendy? I think he is the dark horse here as far as future drama goes. He could be another Stephen from Top Chef. Can't wait for them to start mixing it up.
Lots of posters have complained about which designer should have been eliminated first and why. But, as someone else mentioned, Project Runway is a TV SHOW. The designers who make the most interesting and entertaining TV will not be let go so early on in the season. Personally, I think the calibre of this season's designers is far more impressive than last seasons and talk about "characters!" It looks like Malan, Vincent, Jeffrey & Laura are the one's making season three possibly more fun than season one (let's not even talk about season two).
Quote:Criminy! Now we just have to stew and fume until that episode comes. Plenty of time, though, to examine every statement, behavior, and clue we get in each episode as to who turns out to be the snake in the grass cheater (that is what they're hinting at, isn't it?)
Re: Tim Gunn's asking a designer to leave. Heidi was on Regis & Kelly yesterday morning and said that the episode where a designer is asked to leave by Tim does not take place for several weeks. She also said that she could not divulge the reason why they were kicked off, but that it was "really, really bad...a big no-no"! So, unless there's some re-editing and shuffling around of epis, don't look for it for a while
I still feel had, though. That is deceptive advertising by Bravo. Yes, it definitely got us hooked early (exactly their goal), but I don't like my good will as a viewer being abused.
Personally, I don't think that Keith should have won either. Face it, it was just a bedsheet and it still looked like a bedsheet. And putting all those beads up there just looked, well, out of place. I'm not even sure how to describe it, except, just wrong. It should have been a voting point that if your outfit looked like you woke up and put on your bedsheet you wouldn't get past the first challenge.
Vincent - WTF was that? The best I can say is maybe whomever would wear that outfit is on her way to the beach or something? The dress is more of a coverup than an actual outfit. And please, that hat! He kept saying things like , "fabulous". More like "disastrous!"
Stacy's design was fabulous! I would definately wear that. The only thing I would do is wear a very short slip, but making the panties I liked. At least she thought about the fact that it was see-through, unlike some people you see on the red carpet.
Kayne - again, very pretty. I loved the detail and the top was adorable!
Robert - cute. Saved by the back. The back of that outfit was so much prettier than the front, it saved the outfit from being "[expletive deleted]-hum", to being "oooh"
Malan - not bad, definately original, I'd like to see more of what is in that head!
Alison - ummm... O K. I'd like to see a little more style though.
Anglea - sexy! Gimme more!
Bonnie - not bad, kind of cookie cutter though, I think I've seen dresses very similar to this one many times before.
Micheal - pretty, not great, but good enough to keep you in.
I do wonder, though, how well those coffee filters are going to hang on there...
Ulrike - nice, stylish, different, wearable. I want to see more.
Brandon's design was awful! I would never walk out of the house wearing a comforter, which it was obvious his design was made from.
Katherine - see Brandon (but slightly less unattractive)
Jeffrey's was genius! Hot & Sexy! I think the coat and dress matched very well.
Laura's was fabulous too! I would definately wear that.
I agree that this group seems more talented than the other seasons and I can't wait to see what else comes up. But please judges (& producers) try not to come off like rediculous fat headed idiots that do not take into account the actual look created and how wearable it really is.
Vincent - WTF was that? The best I can say is maybe whomever would wear that outfit is on her way to the beach or something? The dress is more of a coverup than an actual outfit. And please, that hat! He kept saying things like , "fabulous". More like "disastrous!"
Stacy's design was fabulous! I would definately wear that. The only thing I would do is wear a very short slip, but making the panties I liked. At least she thought about the fact that it was see-through, unlike some people you see on the red carpet.
Kayne - again, very pretty. I loved the detail and the top was adorable!
Robert - cute. Saved by the back. The back of that outfit was so much prettier than the front, it saved the outfit from being "[expletive deleted]-hum", to being "oooh"
Malan - not bad, definately original, I'd like to see more of what is in that head!
Alison - ummm... O K. I'd like to see a little more style though.
Anglea - sexy! Gimme more!
Bonnie - not bad, kind of cookie cutter though, I think I've seen dresses very similar to this one many times before.
Micheal - pretty, not great, but good enough to keep you in.
I do wonder, though, how well those coffee filters are going to hang on there...
Ulrike - nice, stylish, different, wearable. I want to see more.
Brandon's design was awful! I would never walk out of the house wearing a comforter, which it was obvious his design was made from.
Katherine - see Brandon (but slightly less unattractive)
Jeffrey's was genius! Hot & Sexy! I think the coat and dress matched very well.
Laura's was fabulous too! I would definately wear that.
I agree that this group seems more talented than the other seasons and I can't wait to see what else comes up. But please judges (& producers) try not to come off like rediculous fat headed idiots that do not take into account the actual look created and how wearable it really is.
Hey, FoodFanOne!
I definitely noticed Robert's snarky comments, as well as those made by some of the other designers (and unfortunately from my current favorite, Keith). However, my post was long enough and I did not want to labeled as a "post- w****" since I haven't posted in a while.
I don't think the cattiness is very professional or even all that endearing, but like I said, it makes for good TV. A past PR designer once said that they were "encouraged" by production to open up and vent their hostilities and frustrations on camera. However, one exception does comes to mind and that is Jay. It worked for him. He was an absolute hoot.
I definitely noticed Robert's snarky comments, as well as those made by some of the other designers (and unfortunately from my current favorite, Keith). However, my post was long enough and I did not want to labeled as a "post- w****" since I haven't posted in a while.
I don't think the cattiness is very professional or even all that endearing, but like I said, it makes for good TV. A past PR designer once said that they were "encouraged" by production to open up and vent their hostilities and frustrations on camera. However, one exception does comes to mind and that is Jay. It worked for him. He was an absolute hoot.
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Okay, I didn't watch the special on casting the show, and I haven't done all the googling I could to verify/disprove, but I'm entirely serious when I put forth the idea that "Laura" will be asked to leave because she has not been entirely truthful with the producers about her bio. The more I saw of her, the more I am convinced that "she" is a man in drag. Not making any judgments, I'm just saying that I'm getting a really strong man-vibe there! Anyone else pick up on that?
Why would she be asked to leave if she were really a man? I don't see PR kicking someone off for being transgender or a cross dresser. Male or female, she's got style to spare & is an excellent designer from what I've seen so far. If she is the one booted I hope it's for some other (valid) reason like she cheated or tried to take out one of the other designers w/ her shears. If they kick her off for gender reasons PR would definitely lose a lot of esteem in my book. She's my early fav, so I hope she makes it to fashion week! She's so different from the previous "self-taught" moms on the show (she doesn't have formal training right?). I love her confidence! So far it hasn't turned into arrogance, she's just sure of herself & her vision & none of that second guessing we've seen in past seasons.
What is up with Jeffrey? I find his fashion sense on the fringe of Santino. Don't tell me he is going to be the drama queen this year.
I think Robert will go a long way with his subtle designs and eye.
Vincent needs to come up to the new millenium. I haven't seen a dress styled like that since the 80's. Oh, that's right - that's when he quit designing. Just remember, Vincent, the camera catches everything, and you playing off the hat was not cool.
Laura - you need to stop wearing those dresses that show you have no chest.
We'll see what happens next week.
I think Robert will go a long way with his subtle designs and eye.
Vincent needs to come up to the new millenium. I haven't seen a dress styled like that since the 80's. Oh, that's right - that's when he quit designing. Just remember, Vincent, the camera catches everything, and you playing off the hat was not cool.
Laura - you need to stop wearing those dresses that show you have no chest.
We'll see what happens next week.
AN OTHERWISE GREAT SHOW WAS RUINED BY RELEASING THE NAME OF THE BOTTOM 3 DESIGNERS IN A STUPID CELL PHONE COMMERCIAL BEFORE THE RESULTS WERE GIVEN! WHAT A LOUSY THING TO DO!
I have one problem with this particular episode.... How the &%#$ a basket in the head avoids the "Auf Wiedersehen"....
Quote:You know, maybe we're all missing the boat here. We've been criticizing the judges for ignoring the "creativity" requirement in handing Keith the win. But, in a sense, wasn't he the most creative by simply grabbing a huge chunk of usable fabric right out from under everyone else?
Personally, I don't think that Keith should have won either. Face it, it was just a bedsheet and it still looked like a bedsheet. And putting all those beads up there just looked, well, out of place. I'm not even sure how to describe it, except, just wrong. It should have been a voting point that if your outfit looked like you woke up and put on your bedsheet you wouldn't get past the first challenge.
And, then he had the good sense to make a passable gown with simple decorative contrast. Even Tim Gunn tried to get him to incorporate more materials, but then Keith changed his mind and ripped off all the tacky extras. Aren't the judges always harping on edit, edit, edit? While I think Keith chose the easy way out, he did follow the general rules of a good designer to a "T." I think the judges may have subconsciously been responding to that. Keith put out a look that was classy whether done in a $14.99 sheet or $200/yard exclusive limited run fabric. Gotta hand it to him.
Does anyone remember Andre's meltdown? Yet he became a show favorite. Going wacky once doesn't mean Vincent is doomed to an early dismissal. We'll have to wait and see.
What's with the antipathy towards Laura and her style? Maybe as an "old lady" myself (who posted she was the old lady?!?!?), I get her. Her coat was very creative and stunning.
I'm a little tired of the draped mishmash look that Jeffery put out there. I was tired of it by the middle of last season when Santino kept doing it. How is it creative when we saw it so much a year ago?
The back of Robert's dress was eye-catching. But, I didn't care for the tacky fake necklace look on the front. And last time I looked, a dress needs to work from all perspectives. AND it shouldn't be a Sybil, one look in front, another in back.
Uli may be a one trick pony. Her dress looked like all her samples from the audition.
I loved the top on Kayne's dress. Thought Michaels was cute, too.
I do think this group has more to offer than last season. I thought that last season they tried too hard to get "personalities" and that the quality of design suffered for it.... talking Diane and Guadalupe and Zulema here.
I HATE the flip-flop done by the judges... this week they picked a very bland, safe dress. Next, we'll hear them criticize someone for designing a dress that is too safe.
I'd love it if they had a score card with preset categories... things like Construction, Design, Originality, Color, etc that the judges would score on a scale of 1 to 5. And if these results were posted. Sure, there could be allowances made for non-specific "gut preferences", but maybe this would hold the judges to some sort of consistant standards. Oh, wait, they wouldn't want that.
And, does anyone else see MK as having a certain opinion until another judge goes in a different direction, then he's all about jumping on THAT band wagon?
Finally, Heidi is just so darned cute! She has so many different looks with her hair and makeup and she always looks fantastic.
What's with the antipathy towards Laura and her style? Maybe as an "old lady" myself (who posted she was the old lady?!?!?), I get her. Her coat was very creative and stunning.
I'm a little tired of the draped mishmash look that Jeffery put out there. I was tired of it by the middle of last season when Santino kept doing it. How is it creative when we saw it so much a year ago?
The back of Robert's dress was eye-catching. But, I didn't care for the tacky fake necklace look on the front. And last time I looked, a dress needs to work from all perspectives. AND it shouldn't be a Sybil, one look in front, another in back.
Uli may be a one trick pony. Her dress looked like all her samples from the audition.
I loved the top on Kayne's dress. Thought Michaels was cute, too.
I do think this group has more to offer than last season. I thought that last season they tried too hard to get "personalities" and that the quality of design suffered for it.... talking Diane and Guadalupe and Zulema here.
I HATE the flip-flop done by the judges... this week they picked a very bland, safe dress. Next, we'll hear them criticize someone for designing a dress that is too safe.
I'd love it if they had a score card with preset categories... things like Construction, Design, Originality, Color, etc that the judges would score on a scale of 1 to 5. And if these results were posted. Sure, there could be allowances made for non-specific "gut preferences", but maybe this would hold the judges to some sort of consistant standards. Oh, wait, they wouldn't want that.
And, does anyone else see MK as having a certain opinion until another judge goes in a different direction, then he's all about jumping on THAT band wagon?
Finally, Heidi is just so darned cute! She has so many different looks with her hair and makeup and she always looks fantastic.
Being that my post will be on ...um page 300 of this board.. but so what right. Well this season has without a doubt the most talented group yet. And you know... I kinda dont like that. I mean minus about four or so, it seems we will see some exceptional garments, but at the expense of some of the drama. Half the fun is seeing some really crappy people make their way up the challenges and then either blossoming or tanking in a tailspin crash. I just dont see that here. I will still watch and totally enjoy the whole show, make sure all my friends watch and yeah wish I was one of them, but I worry that the drama, which is 90% of the show will be kinda off. I hope I'm wrong which is often Todd
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You know, maybe we're all missing the boat here. We've been criticizing the judges for ignoring the "creativity" requirement in handing Keith the win. But, in a sense, wasn't he the most creative by simply grabbing a huge chunk of usable fabric right out from under everyone else?
ITA, FF1. Maybe I'm incorrect, but I felt that the challenge, being called "Wall To Wall Fashion," placed more emphasis on the use of *anything* available within the designers' Atlas apartments--whether it was outlandish, boring or somewhere in between--than it did on "innovation" itself.
I think Keith did an admirable job, and he made something completely wearable, so this week I have to agree completely with the judges' decision.
Lia
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Okay, here goes...I agree that Keith played it safe but did make a wearable look - bravo! But I don't think it was enough to win! He should have been in the top three - he made a great dress but with fabric you could have purchased so wasn't a real creative use of materials. I think either Laura or Robert should have won. Laura's coat was beautiful, made well, and wearable. Robert's dress was fabulous - I love it when a designer pays attention as much to the back as to the front of a dress.
I agree that both Stacey and Vincent deserved the bottom two spots. And I actually agree that she should have gone home - her dress didn't fit well and she didn't know how to use a sewing machine!! Knowing you're going to be PR, wouldn't you figure out how to use a commercial machine before going on the show?? Duh!! Vincent, I don't think, will be around long but how at least he knows how to sew - a basic! If you watched the 'Road to PR', you would have seen the person who said she only designs but can't sew or make a pattern and there was a quick - BYE BYE!
Other than that, I think Katherine's dress was innovative with the blue trash bags I think Michael's coffee filter dress was incredibly original and innovative - maybe he should have even been in the top three - at least 4th. Bonnie's dress was okay but the fit was terrible! Even she was worried that a boob might pop at any second! Can you say 'wardrobe malfunction!' I was impressed with Kayne's use of the bath mat and Angela's use of leather. Other designs weren't worth talking about.
Okay, here goes...I agree that Keith played it safe but did make a wearable look - bravo! But I don't think it was enough to win! He should have been in the top three - he made a great dress but with fabric you could have purchased so wasn't a real creative use of materials. I think either Laura or Robert should have won. Laura's coat was beautiful, made well, and wearable. Robert's dress was fabulous - I love it when a designer pays attention as much to the back as to the front of a dress.
I agree that both Stacey and Vincent deserved the bottom two spots. And I actually agree that she should have gone home - her dress didn't fit well and she didn't know how to use a sewing machine!! Knowing you're going to be PR, wouldn't you figure out how to use a commercial machine before going on the show?? Duh!! Vincent, I don't think, will be around long but how at least he knows how to sew - a basic! If you watched the 'Road to PR', you would have seen the person who said she only designs but can't sew or make a pattern and there was a quick - BYE BYE!
Other than that, I think Katherine's dress was innovative with the blue trash bags I think Michael's coffee filter dress was incredibly original and innovative - maybe he should have even been in the top three - at least 4th. Bonnie's dress was okay but the fit was terrible! Even she was worried that a boob might pop at any second! Can you say 'wardrobe malfunction!' I was impressed with Kayne's use of the bath mat and Angela's use of leather. Other designs weren't worth talking about.
Quote:Hey, love2paint!
And, does anyone else see MK as having a certain opinion until another judge goes in a different direction, then he's all about jumping on THAT band wagon?
I noticed that, too. Michael Kors is quick to go down the same line that another judge opens up. I don't think it's because he's a flip-flopper, though. He seems to take joy in exploring all sides of the analysis and loves jumping in to help fully flesh out the comment or concern. Something somebody says hits home with him and he chimes right in, often in a gossipy, dishy, endearingly "it's just us girls" way. His most memorable comments come in these responses, including hilarious observations like calling Dracula a "wackadoo."
I think Jeffrey and Malan are the 2 most talented of the bunch after reading the bio's, so I can't wait to see what they do next. We all seem to always favor the best looking or nicest, instead of letting the talent or clothes speak for themselves. Let's all keep an open mind until at least the 3rd challenge.
Quote:Hi, Lia! Excellent point. Since the material sourcing was "wall-to-wall" and anything was fair game, it would have been unfair to penalize Keith for picking one of the more ordinary items from the room. So what if it was a bed sheet. It was a teriffic shade of royal blue, and it provided plenty of fabric. And, Keith showed a real eagle eye in spotting those perfect contrasting red buttons on a, what was it, throw pillow? during all the excitement and commotion.
Maybe I'm incorrect, but I felt that the challenge, being called "Wall To Wall Fashion," placed more emphasis on the use of *anything* available within the designers' Atlas apartments--whether it was outlandish, boring or somewhere in between--than it did on "innovation" itself.
I think Keith did an admirable job, and he made something completely wearable, so this week I have to agree completely with the judges' decision.
Lia
While I originally disliked the judges' decision (I thought Laura had the best combination of creativity in use of materials, good tailoring, and high impact fashion), I've come to see that it is a valid one.
Michael's coffee filter dress was exceptional as well. It had excellent lines, a very sexy back, and was totally feminine. Reminded me of Kara Saun's ability to effortlessly make something beautiful out of any materials. I think he's somebody to really watch and could take the whole thing.
I didnt really think Keith's dress was all that well fitting or put together. While the challenge was to use anything from the apartments, it was also meant to show the designers point of view, to show what they were all about using those materials. I was not impressed with his dress at all. I really liked Michael's all white coffee filter dress and loved Vincent's dress, if not the hat (what was he thinking?)
They definately made the right choice in sending stacey home though. I have to say, they did a good job picking people for this season, seems to be a much more experienced bunch.
They definately made the right choice in sending stacey home though. I have to say, they did a good job picking people for this season, seems to be a much more experienced bunch.
I totally agree about Michael's coffee dress. Not only was it totally feminine but the eye for spacing, shapes and flow of materials was excellent. It was a flawless execution. As the model was walking I could not keep my eye off the dress and the movement, not distracting but completly flattering to the model. Honestly stunning and I cant see why he did not take the top spot! And I second the prediction of taking the whole thing.
Quote:Yes, but here's a guy who up to this point has only done menswear, and he decides that he's going to knock out a glam gown. The point of view that emerged from him was conservative style, good lines, and minimal decoration. The judges responded to it.
I didnt really think Keith's dress was all that well fitting or put together. While the challenge was to use anything from the apartments, it was also meant to show the designers point of view, to show what they were all about using those materials. I was not impressed with his dress at all.
Yes, but here's a guy who up to this point has only done menswear, and he decides that he's going to knock out a glam gown. The point of view that emerged from him was conservative style, good lines, and minimal decoration. The judges responded to it.
I think he would have prepared himself for the show by getting up to speed for the competition, he has the most important skills which are garment fabrication and fitting. People uderestimate how difficult mens clothing can be to construct-its narrow definitions require flawless execution-as seen from the season 2 competiton when all the contestants had to design an outfit for each other-the mens clothes were by far the hardest and the most difficult.
Quote:Sorry, I have to finish my thought here. I think it is funny that everyone essentially is saying that Keith's dress was too [expletive deleted]-hum to win. Did Santino's final efforts spoil us all so much that we'd like to see wackier initial outfits be rewarded now, in the knowledge that the wackiest guy could turn out to be the most talented?Quote:Yes, but here's a guy who up to this point has only done menswear, and he decides that he's going to knock out a glam gown. The point of view that emerged from him was conservative style, good lines, and minimal decoration. The judges responded to it.
I didnt really think Keith's dress was all that well fitting or put together. While the challenge was to use anything from the apartments, it was also meant to show the designers point of view, to show what they were all about using those materials. I was not impressed with his dress at all.
The fact remains that Keith's dress used allowed materials and was a very credible gown in a stunning color. Perhaps it was boring in contrast to everyone else's efforts, or perhaps it was the most real-world wearable item in this challenge.
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