DoctorT
July 16, 2006 - 09:07 AM
I think the designers did a fabulous job with the first challenge. The designs seem to be more creative and better constructed than previous seasons...already! (This is not an expert opinion....just my perception as a fashion fan and consumer!)
I have to say that I hope the Robert Best dress from Episode 1 will be produced! I WANT THAT dress!!!!!
dcjewbear
July 16, 2006 - 09:09 AM
When I first saw him I thought he looked like what would have happened if Bryan Ferry and Gary Numan had somehow mated but now I just think Ferry if he was quite as cool. The more people bash him the more I find I'm actually rather fond of him. The same thing happened with Santino last year. By the time he showed at Olympus fashion week I kind of hoped he would take the damn thing. Danny was a little dull and Chloe's stuff looked like the home furnishings that was the first challenge this year. Maybe that's where they got the idea?
I've been amused as all get out by the charges of racism this year. I think it may be kind of natural to compare Michael to Zulema, as some people compared Zulema to Kara Saun last year. He's this year's PR token black person. Who else would you compare them to if you're a little lazy and don't look at the work? I think Michael may be as talented as Kara but we'll have to see after a few challenges.
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And don't forget "Legend!" It's the only Tom Cruise movie I can stomach, and as "Darkness," Tim Curry was incomparable.
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Mine too, and let's not forget, Tim's quite a fashion icon himself. What he did for fishnets and giant rubber devil horns cannot be denied. Rowr.
OK OK OK...I got it. I looked him up. Yeah, I know him...he played the Cardinal in The Three Musketeers. Yeah, he is funny.
I guess Malan does kinda look like him. Hmmm, gonna have to think about that for minute or two.
dcjewbear
July 16, 2006 - 09:22 AM
Sorry, Folks, but I freakin' HATED that movie. Except for "Rocky" I think Stallone may be the person who hot farthest in Hollywood with absoluely nothing going on artisticly.
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Tim was the only thing that made the movie worth watching. Was Stallone in that one? lol Just remember Tim.
Yes, Sylvester Stallone, Tim Curry, Chaz Palminteri, Peter Reigert, Marisa Tomei, Linda Grey, Kirk Douglass, Don Ameche, and a bunch of others. I particularly enjoyed the Fanucci brothers bit and Chaz Palminteri pulling the chicken leg out of his pocket.
dcjewbear
July 16, 2006 - 09:32 AM
LOL. Did anyone see Nathan Lane and Mathew Broderick On Actor's Studio? Nathan did I spit take on that and than impishly said "I bet that's the first time someone's done a spit take here". Love that man and I even loved "The Producers" film though they did cut the best number.
And, for the record, you should always swallow. Spitting is just rude. LOL
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I noticed the models couldnt walk. One looked like she was trying to avoid piles of horse crap in a field she was stepping so high.
LOL. Here I am, drinking my ginger ale, and I keep doing spit takes, these posts are so funny.
So your telling us you spit, not swallow?
Now girls. Tut, tut. If I start laughing when I'm drinking, I start to choke and involuntarily spray it out so I can breathe again. Just like those "spit take" reactions comedians do. Clearly I shouldn't drink and read these boards at the same time.
brillke
July 16, 2006 - 09:35 AM
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Sorry, Folks, but I freakin' HATED that movie. Except for "Rocky" I think Stallone may be the person who hot farthest in Hollywood with absoluely nothing going on artisticly.
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Tim was the only thing that made the movie worth watching. Was Stallone in that one? lol Just remember Tim.
Yes, Sylvester Stallone, Tim Curry, Chaz Palminteri, Peter Reigert, Marisa Tomei, Linda Grey, Kirk Douglass, Don Ameche, and a bunch of others. I particularly enjoyed the Fanucci brothers bit and Chaz Palminteri pulling the chicken leg out of his pocket.
I almost agree with you DC. I thought Stallone was great in Cop Land.
probono
July 16, 2006 - 09:42 AM
Haha! Look at everybody's awesome new locations! Sweet!
Too many funny posts since last night to comment on but I just have to say that the women in my family have been designing for generations without the benefit of fancy modern facilities or scientific advancements. In fact, my great granny delivered a beautiful debutante gown by herself in the backseat of the buggy on the way to her very own coming out ball! So you can take your faux Yves Saint-Laurent and stuff it, Angela of O-HI-O!
*Granny never actually made it any further to her own debut than the back of that buggy but it was a lovely gown, or so great grandpa keeps saying.*
probono
July 16, 2006 - 09:47 AM
Okay, I really do want to talk about the designs from episode one but first I just have to get this out of the way about Keith.
What kind of person, while packing his bag on his way to PR, thinks to himself, "Hey! I better not forget these tacky oversized wooden baubles! I might need those!" So, here's a game. What else do you think Keith packed in his chic designer bag of tricks?
dcjewbear
July 16, 2006 - 09:49 AM
And they cut that number for the film! I guess because of the lines 'when you're down and out/ makes you want to stand up and shout/ who do you have to f**k to get a break in this town?" I remember seeing the film in the theater when it first came out and thinking "what's the f**k?" I still love the film but I saw the show on Broadway with the original cast and then in L.A. with Jason Alexander and Martin Short and it kind of burned me.
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Ok, Andy's Blog today refers to Usher as the star of the King of Broadway. Could he be the "American royalty" the PW promos for Episode 2 are referring to? If so, that's pretty weak, since every male star who has a smash musical or play on Broadway is immediately crowned the new "King of Broadway." Google the phrase and see!
Another possibility for the mystery guest -- Nathan Lane, who, during his reigh as the "King of Broadway" in The Producers, actually sang "King of Broadway" in that show. Yes, I know it's a stretch again, but this clue really does fascinate me. Do you think Andy was just poking fun at us in his blog?
dcjewbear
July 16, 2006 - 09:52 AM
I loved Tony Ward. He reminded me of Joe Dalesandro during his Warhol days and you know that can't be bad. Joe D was dead sexy.
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Yeah, Santino's best friend was Tony Ward, the model and ex boyfriend of Madonna from back in the early 90s. Remember him in the Justify My Love video?
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dcjewbear
July 16, 2006 - 09:55 AM
No, he's just an [censored] seekin attention. He also does something that I hate wich is he replies to something without keeping any of the original post so you have no idea which post he's responding to. Aaaarrrggghhh!
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I belong to a Yahoo group devoted to Runway and there is a fellow there who insists that Jay blew the sead money and sold the car (what car? There was no care giveaway for the first season). He hates Jay so much that he makes the same post over and over and over and...
Jay didn't take the prize money. There are multiple interviews with him out on the web where he explains that there were too many restrictions associated with the prize money (too many required appearances on behalf of PR, etc). I also think he mentioned in ProjectJay that he didn't take the money but I'm not sure about that.
So the guy who makes the claims mentioned above is nuts, has bad source info or is simply making it up.
lazylady
July 16, 2006 - 10:53 AM
Hi
Back again. You find out how much you rely on your internet for entertainment when it goes down. That and I work weekends so not much time to read and post.
I just spent some fun time reading all of the post since I posted about the bead thing. Did not mean to start a controversary, just wondered if anyone else had noticed it.
A couple of friends and myself had the time to dish on PR late last night. Opinions among us are just as varied and interesting as on this board.
One swears it is Robert that will get kicked off, one thinks it is Jeffery and so on. I don't think we will find out until quite a bit later, I am guessing they are running that promo just to keep us guessing and tearing our hair out.
No matter who gets kicked off this is going to be fun!
FoodFanOne
July 16, 2006 - 11:10 AM
Ok, I watched another rerun of Episode 301 today, and everybody is right about the conflict between the requirements for the challenge given to the designers and the standards the judges applied when evaluating their garments.
Tim Gunn first said that the challenge was all about innovation, then Heidi said that they were to use the materials in the apartment to design an outfit that best expressed who they were as designers. Taken together, those two criteria clearly implied that the designers had to be innovative in using materials from the apartment to create an outfit that best expressed who they are as a designer.
If what Heidi and Tim actually meant was that designers were free to go wild with wierd materials BUT WOULD NOT BE PENALIZED FOR USING MORE ORDINARY ONES, they should have made that clear.
During the workroom portion, Tim Gunn did speak to Keith about how his garment was just a sheet and had no innovation, and encouraged him to incorporate some other materials. So, it seems that Tim, at least, thought innovation was a core requirement of the challenge. Keith did add some junk to his outfit, decided it made his gown look tacky, then stripped it all off again. He felt he had made an excellent gown and decided to go with his instincts.
Interestingly, the judges were not making innovation the critical factor when evaluating the outfits on the runway. When Heidi was summarizing Stacey's outfit immediately prior to auf'ing her, Heidi said that she just used a curtain (or sheet, I forget which she said, as Stacey used both) but could have saved it with good design. COULD HAVE SAVED IT WITH GOOD DESIGN? SO, INNOVATION WAN'T AN ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT? Her comment clearly implies that design was the key factor and would have excused the use of [expletive deleted]-hum materials from the apartment. WOW. Did any of you get that when the challenge was first being described? I certainly didn't.
Thus, the exact point in the competition were the unspoken rule was articulated was AFTER the judges had already reached their conclusions. If that was what they really had in their minds all along, Heidi and Tim should have made it clear up front that the primary focus would be on good design, not materials used. If not, and the judges were subconsciously changing the basis for evaluating the garments as they reviewed them, shame on them.
As to Keith's outfit, Kate Spade and Nina Garcia were quite taken with the red buttons on the back of the gown that came from a duvet cover. [Some of you commented that they weren't even aligned, but it looked to me like they perfectly aligned, except for one clearly off-center button at the bottom for visual effect.] The judges did seem to give Keith points for being very editorial and sticking to good, clean lines with just the right touch of decoration. However, I agree with all that true "innovation" in use of materials was completely missing from his garment, no matter how otherwise successful it was as a garment.
So, I do think that Michael, Robert and Laura got gypped BIG TIME. They each did superbly constructed, well-fit, sexy outfits that also exhibited a wonderful creativeness in use of materials. Heidi, Tim, Michael, Nina, and Kate Spade should have gotten their act together so that the description of the challenge to the designers and the standards used to judge it were exactly the same. If Heidi and Tim did present the challenge correctly, then the judges should have judged the outfits according to the challenge AS STATED, and picked an outfit that demonstrated the best blend of creativity and style. And, they should have done so even if they liked a stylish outfit better, if that outfit failed to meet BOTH criteria laid out for the challenge.
And, yes, the episode was re-edited to cut out a scene. Keith's comment about using a sheet and "home accessories"is still there, but the whole discussion about letting the judges see the front without the beads and their questions to Keith about the beads (where he said they were "from home" -- thanks for the confirmation from the folks here in the East who Tivo'd the very first airing) has been totally cut out. Instead, there were jumps from the dress with beads, to it without them, and back to the dress with the beads again. As we clarified on this board yesterday, that cut evidently was made during the time delay between the very first airing to the Eastern seaboard and the next airings to the rest of the country. So, whatever Bravo didn't want us to see (or speculate about) was caught by them right away.
Now the question is, why didn't they want us seeing that? I guess we'll have to wait until Wednesday to see if, after the fact, they clarified that Keith really did bring those beads from home and booted him for using materials not allowed in the challenge, or whether some designer gets booted off for a totally different violation of the rules.
lazylady
July 16, 2006 - 11:19 AM
I just popped over to see how the auctions were going on the garments.
Robert's is up to $455 while most are around the $80 range with a few exceptions below or a little above.
I want a "Make It Work" t-shirt lol.
FoodFanOne
July 16, 2006 - 11:20 AM
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I belong to a Yahoo group devoted to Runway and there is a fellow there who insists that Jay blew the sead money and sold the car (what car? There was no care giveaway for the first season). He hates Jay so much that he makes the same post over and over and over and...
Jay didn't take the prize money. There are multiple interviews with him out on the web where he explains that there were too many restrictions associated with the prize money (too many required appearances on behalf of PR, etc). I also think he mentioned in ProjectJay that he didn't take the money but I'm not sure about that.
So the guy who makes the claims mentioned above is nuts, has bad source info or is simply making it up.
Speaking of responding to quotes, can we please all go back to putting our new comment at the BOTTOM of the material we wish to repeat, rather than at the top? This way, you can read the whole thing in chronological order. This posting is a perfect example. The person right before me was the quote at the TOP here, rather than the paragraph before mine. C'mon, kids, let's all get on the same train.
katiecoolady
July 16, 2006 - 11:22 AM
Very thought provoking post FF1. This bead business is really perplexing. By the time I tivo'd it, the bead convo was completely gone and , as you said, the bopping between bead and beadless was going on.
The question I have though is that these shows were edited months ago so why a last minute change? Did they miss something in the first editing?
In shamelessly rewatching this episode for the hmmth time, I was taken by the emotion and words of Keith in the promo saying "it was just lame". I'm thinking he might be the scandalous one to be ousted for breaking the rules.
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July 16, 2006 - 11:36 AM
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And, yes, the episode was re-edited to cut out a scene. Keith's comment about using a sheet and "home accessories"is still there, but the whole discussion about letting the judges see the front without the beads and their questions to Keith about the beads (where he said they were "from home" -- thanks for the confirmation from the folks here in the East who Tivo'd the very first airing) has been totally cut out. Instead, there were jumps from the dress with beads, to it without them, and back to the dress with the beads again. As we clarified on this board yesterday, that cut evidently was made during the time delay between the very first airing to the Eastern seaboard and the next airings to the rest of the country.
It's not so clear. I taped the first airing on the Eastern seaboard and, as I reported, the "remove the necklace" request didn't show up during the judges' critique. Unless you want to take the (debatable) position that Tivos are more reliable than VCRs, I can't conclude that Bravo monkeyed with the episode.
One thing I did notice, when Heidi was recapping the challenge before the runway show, she said it was all about innovation. If there's one time to make the judging criteria clear to the audience at home, it's just before the runway show kicks off.
I do think the judges will let themselves be wowed by good design even if it doesn't satisfy all the challenge criteria. I just don't think Keith's dress was all that wow-worthy, compared to the other top contenders (and I include Michael and Uli in that bunch). Uli's was most similar to Keith's and prefer hers, because it moved better and had a smoother fit.
FoodFanOne
July 16, 2006 - 11:45 AM
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It's not so clear. I taped the first airing on the Eastern seaboard and, as I reported, the "remove the necklace" request didn't show up during the judges' critique. Unless you want to take the (debatable) position that Tivos are more reliable than VCRs, I can't conclude that Bravo monkeyed with the episode.
It IS perplexing. Why do several of us remember that conversation? Did we imagine it? Like Daniel Franko, "where did it go?" I tell ya, we could all go batty analyzing this thing.
probono
July 16, 2006 - 11:56 AM
Darnit, FF1, I'm trying not to go here again...But, it is interesting to note that Keith himself used the word "innovation" in defense of his dress as if someone asked him, "Where's the innovation here?" He explained, more or less, that the innovation in his design was in the wearability or practicality of it. And they bought it. I'm sticking with my opinion that Keith won the challenge with his smooth talking. You do have to sometimes really sell your idea to a client, and he sold it. It's just that some of us aren't buying. LOL!
And I can't remember if it was mentioned in your post or someone else's, but Tim Gunn did state in his podcast that post-production was so tight this season that he didn't even get to see a rough-cut of the first episode before it aired, so they were still editing apparently right up to air time. Vewy Intervesting.
FoodFanOne
July 16, 2006 - 11:58 AM
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It's not so clear. I taped the first airing on the Eastern seaboard and, as I reported, the "remove the necklace" request didn't show up during the judges' critique. Unless you want to take the (debatable) position that Tivos are more reliable than VCRs, I can't conclude that Bravo monkeyed with the episode.
It IS perplexing. Why do several of us remember that conversation? Did we imagine it? Like Daniel Franko, "where did it go?" I tell ya, we could all go batty analyzing this thing.
Actually, they didn't say the words "remove the necklace". One of the judges commented that they couldn't see the neckline [because there was a huge bunch of necklaces totally obscuring it] and Nina Garcia asked if they could see what was underneath the beads, please (or something to that effect). Keith agreed and was beginning to either pull them to the side or take them off when the camera returned to the judges' faces, as I recall.
In any event, the obstruction was so complete that there is no way they would have declared that the winning gown without getting a peek at what the neckline looked like underneath all that stuff.
Anybody who wants to see the giant pile of beaded necklaces totally obscuring the front of that gown can see it on the website pic where they are auctioning off the gown.
FoodFanOne
July 16, 2006 - 12:02 PM
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Darnit, FF1, I'm trying not to go here again...But, it is interesting to note that Keith himself used the word "innovation" in defense of his dress as if someone asked him, "Where's the innovation here?" He explained, more or less, that the innovation in his design was in the wearability or practicality of it. And they bought it. I'm sticking with my opinion that Keith won the challenge with his smooth talking. You do have to sometimes really sell your idea to a client, and he sold it. It's just that some of us aren't buying. LOL!
I think you are absolutely right. I believe that he smooth-talked the judges into temporarily forgetting that the innovation was supposed to be in the use of MATERIALS, not in how realistically gown-like the garment was.
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July 16, 2006 - 12:08 PM
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Darnit, FF1, I'm trying not to go here again...But, it is interesting to note that Keith himself used the word "innovation" in defense of his dress as if someone asked him, "Where's the innovation here?" He explained, more or less, that the innovation in his design was in the wearability or practicality of it. And they bought it. I'm sticking with my opinion that Keith won the challenge with his smooth talking. You do have to sometimes really sell your idea to a client, and he sold it. It's just that some of us aren't buying. LOL!
I think you are absolutely right. I believe that he smooth-talked the judges into temporarily forgetting that the innovation was supposed to be in the use of MATERIALS, not in how realistically gown-like the garment was.
Frankly, I found his Carol Burnett show comparison just odd. I mean sure that was a funny episode but was he saying he didn't want to parody a parody?
FoodFanOne
July 16, 2006 - 12:12 PM
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Darnit, FF1, I'm trying not to go here again...But, it is interesting to note that Keith himself used the word "innovation" in defense of his dress as if someone asked him, "Where's the innovation here?" He explained, more or less, that the innovation in his design was in the wearability or practicality of it. And they bought it. I'm sticking with my opinion that Keith won the challenge with his smooth talking. You do have to sometimes really sell your idea to a client, and he sold it. It's just that some of us aren't buying. LOL!
I think you are absolutely right. I believe that he smooth-talked the judges into temporarily forgetting that the innovation was supposed to be in the use of MATERIALS, not in how realistically gown-like the garment was.
And, if Keith can point out how wearable and practical his garment is each time and get away with it, then the judges are nuts. That's not couture, that's J.C. Penney no-frills, wash and wear. The whole point of being a designer is to produce a look that can't be bought off the racks.
Further, that whole discussion about the Carol Burnett curtain rod in the shoulders of the gown send-up of Gone With the Wind was just another way of saying that yeah, I made a gown out of ordinary materials, but at least it isn't tacky-looking. I think that's what the judges bought into also, and it was just the wrong standard to have applied. The fact that it looked like a passable gown doesn't get him the gold, in my book.
probono
July 16, 2006 - 12:15 PM
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Frankly, I found his Carol Burnett show comparison just odd. I mean sure that was a funny episode but was he saying he didn't want to parody a parody?
I think he was subtley implying that the rest of the designs were as tacky as Carol Burnett's design, while alas, his was the Scarlett O'Hara of the bunch. If I was a judge, I would have said, "Frankly my dear Kieth, I don't give a damn."
FoodFanOne
July 16, 2006 - 12:16 PM
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Frankly, I found his Carol Burnett show comparison just odd. I mean sure that was a funny episode but was he saying he didn't want to parody a parody?
I think he was subtley implying that the rest of the designs were as tacky as Carol Burnett's design, while alas, his was the Scarlett O'Hara of the bunch. If I was a judge, I would have said, "Frankly my dear Kieth, I don't give a damn."
ROFLMAOOOOOOOO!!!!1
lazylady
July 16, 2006 - 12:58 PM
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Frankly, I found his Carol Burnett show comparison just odd. I mean sure that was a funny episode but was he saying he didn't want to parody a parody?
I think he was subtley implying that the rest of the designs were as tacky as Carol Burnett's design, while alas, his was the Scarlett O'Hara of the bunch. If I was a judge, I would have said, "Frankly my dear Kieth, I don't give a damn."
ROFLMAOOOOOOOO!!!!1
Love it!
erthgoddss
July 16, 2006 - 01:20 PM
Hmmm maybe I can't hear well... but I Tivo'd the show and have seen it a few times. 1) the beaded necklaces are on the accessory wall ... before he is done with the dress. 2) he says the dress is made of bed sheets and "home accessories". Ok.. not exactly the truth.. but not something he brought from home either.
(P.S. he was not my fav to win.. Robert was... but he did a nice job on the dress.. as well as how the model looked)
erthgoddss
July 16, 2006 - 01:27 PM
American Royalty... hmmmm hurts my brain to think.. but maybe Miss America? Or some lesser known model or star? I dont' think it will be anyone too big ... yet.. if a major star or celebrity shows up I would think it would be at the end of the season rather than at the beginning.
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July 16, 2006 - 01:31 PM
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Hmmm maybe I can't hear well... but I Tivo'd the show and have seen it a few times. 1) the beaded necklaces are on the accessory wall ... before he is done with the dress. 2) he says the dress is made of bed sheets and "home accessories". Ok.. not exactly the truth.. but not something he brought from home either.
(P.S. he was not my fav to win.. Robert was... but he did a nice job on the dress.. as well as how the model looked)
Ah ha!! Is the convo regarding the neckline there?
probono
July 16, 2006 - 01:36 PM
erthgoddss is right. The beads are on a dress form near the accessory wall. Man, I searched high and low for those beads on the accessory wall last week and never saw them.
FoodFanOne
July 16, 2006 - 01:49 PM
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erthgoddss is right. The beads are on a dress form near the accessory wall. Man, I searched high and low for those beads on the accessory wall last week and never saw them.
So Keith didn't cheat. At least on this. Now we're all totally in the dark about what the boot-off will be for.
Ah well, then, back to the game. A new theory: Some braided trim falls off a dress. The designer can't find it anywhere. Stressed, she cuts off some of her hair, braids it up quickly, and Superglues it onto the dress. The cameras catch her doing it.
FoodFanOne
July 16, 2006 - 01:55 PM
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erthgoddss is right. The beads are on a dress form near the accessory wall. Man, I searched high and low for those beads on the accessory wall last week and never saw them.
BUT, they weren't actually ON the wall. Could this have been a ploy to make the beads look legit? (Ok, Ok, I couldn't resist. Been watching too much Law and Order lately.)
Legolass
July 16, 2006 - 02:16 PM
Just an observation & I don't know if anyone mentioned it in previous posts. In the Road to Runway preshow, Tim Gunn is looking down at the desk so he hasn't seen the next applicant yet. He asks Nicole what have you brought to PR that is different and unique. The camera switches to a young woman who is literally falling out of her blouse. Camera switches to Santino who is covering his face with his hands. It's a coke/coffee snorted through the nose moment.
FoodFanOne
July 16, 2006 - 02:24 PM
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Just an observation & I don't know if anyone mentioned it in previous posts. In the Road to Runway preshow, Tim Gunn is looking down at the desk so he hasn't seen the next applicant yet. He asks Nicole what have you brought to PR that is different and unique. The camera switches to a young woman who is literally falling out of her blouse. Camera switches to Santino who is covering his face with his hands. It's a coke/coffee snorted through the nose moment.
Saw that. Thought Tim Gunn should get an Emmy for his effort to keep an absolutely straight face while asking that question.
Akasha10
July 16, 2006 - 03:15 PM
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[ Zulema was cocky,arrogant, full of herself
And had the nerve to blame it on some alter-ego named Shatange. You're a grown woman, time to put imaginary playmates to bed.
ITA!
Seriously!!! If you are going to be a [expletive deleted], OWN IT!
Dyan2Design
July 16, 2006 - 03:21 PM
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American Royalty... hmmmm hurts my brain to think.. but maybe Miss America? Or some lesser known model or star? I dont' think it will be anyone too big ... yet.. if a major star or celebrity shows up I would think it would be at the end of the season rather than at the beginning.
I agree with you re: PR going with a lesser-known celebrity for the series and getting a bigger-name for the finale. I have a new name for the "guess list;" Ann Hathaway of "The Princess Diaries." She's not my #1 guess, but it's a shot.
Personally, I'm still thinking of either Ivanka Trump or Melania Trump (both were/are models).
Akasha10
July 16, 2006 - 03:23 PM
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Okay, I really do want to talk about the designs from episode one but first I just have to get this out of the way about Keith.
What kind of person, while packing his bag on his way to PR, thinks to himself, "Hey! I better not forget these tacky oversized wooden baubles! I might need those!" So, here's a game. What else do you think Keith packed in his chic designer bag of tricks?
Ok, that question sent me in another direction. Did anyone else think it was stuck up of Joan Crawford (aka Laura) to come with Louis Vuitton luggage??? I just thought that was show-offy.
Akasha10
July 16, 2006 - 03:29 PM
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It's not so clear. I taped the first airing on the Eastern seaboard and, as I reported, the "remove the necklace" request didn't show up during the judges' critique. Unless you want to take the (debatable) position that Tivos are more reliable than VCRs, I can't conclude that Bravo monkeyed with the episode.
It IS perplexing. Why do several of us remember that conversation? Did we imagine it? Like Daniel Franko, "where did it go?" I tell ya, we could all go batty analyzing this thing.
What happened to the convo?!?!?!?!?!
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(sorry, channeling Tim for a second)
Akasha10
July 16, 2006 - 03:34 PM
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That doesn't negate that he might have put them there. Maybe that was his dress form and he didn't want anyone to take his form, lest he have to call Shatange to get it back.
Legolass
July 16, 2006 - 03:34 PM
Akasha, sweetie, I'll bet it's the only kind of luggage she owns - lol Did you get a look at her apartment? It's huge with high ceilings and floor to ceiling windows. The children's play room looked big enough to play basketball in. And the painting of herself on the wall that looks to be 10 - 12 feet high. This family has money. Does anyone have an idea of how much an apartment like that in NYC would cost?
Akasha10
July 16, 2006 - 03:38 PM
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Akasha, sweetie, I'll bet it's the only kind of luggage she owns - lol Did you get a look at her apartment? It's huge with high ceilings and floor to ceiling windows. The children's play room looked big enough to play basketball in. And the painting of herself on the wall that looks to be 10 - 12 feet high. This family has money. Does anyone have an idea of how much an apartment like that in NYC would cost?
Still seems show-offy. Just cause you have it, doesn't mean you have to flaunt it. If it was just the suitcase, I might have ignored it but to have an LV make-up case also is just ostentatious (sp?).
Legolass
July 16, 2006 - 03:39 PM
Just curious & hoping someone can answer this for me. My post near the top of Page 69 says it's my 64th post. My post at the bottom of the page says it's my 64th post. What's up with that?
Akasha10
July 16, 2006 - 03:43 PM
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Just curious & hoping someone can answer this for me. My post near the top of Page 69 says it's my 64th post. My post at the bottom of the page says it's my 64th post. What's up with that?
The number of posts is tied to your profile, not to an individual post, so even if you went back to the place where your very first post was made, it would show your current number of total posts. Same is true for anything in your profile, like your location...very first post would show the location name you just created...which is cute, btw.
sfcritic1
July 16, 2006 - 03:43 PM
Jak? Kitn? Bunnyslippers? anyone out there?
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Legolass
July 16, 2006 - 03:44 PM
Oh, dear. I'm feeling so out of it because I didn't even notice her luggage & makeup case. Will go back & check it out. Would I recognize it as LV? I'm more a Samsonite kinda gal - lol
Akasha10
July 16, 2006 - 03:45 PM
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Jak? Kitn? Bunnyslippers? anyone out there?
sfcritic1
I'm here, sf. Long time no chat. Haven't seen Jak or Kitn. Don't know Bunnyslippers. Mother Hubbard has been out here. HilaryLoren, dcjewbear, FoodFan1, and some of the others but not any of the original gang. I miss Foo!!!!!
Akasha10
July 16, 2006 - 03:45 PM
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Oh, dear. I'm feeling so out of it because I didn't even notice her luggage & makeup case. Will go back & check it out. Would I recognize it as LV? I'm more a Samsonite kinda gal - lol
Can't miss it...when they are going into Atlas for the first time.
ChelseaNH
July 16, 2006 - 03:49 PM
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It's a coke/coffee snorted through the nose moment.
My favorite subtle editing humor comes from some of the judges' reaction shots during the runway show. Like when Jeffrey's model throws feathers in the air, and then there's a cut to Nina with this "we are not amused" expression on her face.
Legolass
July 16, 2006 - 03:50 PM
(((Akasha)))) Thanks for the compliment. I'm a huge Tim Gunn fan. He's the one person (besides Heidi because it's her show) that they could not afford to lose. All the others are replaceable. Did you get your location from the Springsteen song "Dancing In The Dark"?
sfcritic1
July 16, 2006 - 03:54 PM
Well Hi Akasha10! I have been away, but will email kitn seperately and see where the hell she is!!! I see noteveyas is also around (a good thing), and I miss Foo,too!!!!!! Here's hoping our little circle of friends reads this and are inspired to return, not just read-along (ha! gotcha!)
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Akasha10
July 16, 2006 - 03:56 PM
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(((Akasha)))) Thanks for the compliment. I'm a huge Tim Gunn fan. He's the one person (besides Heidi because it's her show) that they could not afford to lose. All the others are replaceable. Did you get your location from the Springsteen song "Dancing In The Dark"?
Totally. Although, when I put it in, I couldn't remember what song it came from. I just knew the line came from a song. So after I updated it, I had to pop out to the web and find it.
LOL.
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