damselfly
September 17, 2006 - 02:46 PM
This has definitely been my least liked season to date. I just can't tell if it's the fair-to-middling (IMO) talent level, or the same, tired old formulas that have been turning me off of PR more and more each week. I actually considered DVRing last week's ep and only watching the last 30 seconds to see who won and who lost, but I put the ep on anyway just because there was little else interesting on at the time. I don't know if I'll be watching or just DVRing this week, but I do have to say this season has been more of a snore than a snort so far.
Here, here!
gracehatter
September 17, 2006 - 06:15 PM
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"Why don't you put some Harry Winston's up you nose."
CLASSIC !!
You have to give Vicent credit for that one...I'm not so sure everyone got it at first blush and showed a remarkable presence of mind for him, lol!!
gotnails
September 20, 2006 - 04:17 PM
pretty bogus we have to settle for reruns tonight-when is bravo gonna get their timing right? guess i'll have to watch top model instead.
thorn111
September 20, 2006 - 04:38 PM
So WTF is up with no new episode tonight?
mattymatt
September 20, 2006 - 04:43 PM
OMG this season is F-ING AWESOME. I cant wait to see how it turns out, the seasons been a real stich and the ending is hemming up to be a freakin style-off of the century. Get yourself some pinot call your girlfriends and cuddle up, its gonna be a real surnow-off on project runway.....wooooooweeeeee
pantagleize
September 20, 2006 - 05:34 PM
When does the FINALE show air???
allisonic
September 20, 2006 - 06:16 PM
What is up with the RERUN of last week's episode?????
Lame!
rdwll
September 20, 2006 - 06:28 PM
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What is up with the RERUN of last week's episode?????
Lame! [/quote
My group left...a group of my friends gather each week to watch PR..they just left !!! Very upset!!! This was a terrible show, now they have to sit through it again, just to find out that all four - Jeffery, Laura, Uli, and Michael will show at PR...WE ALREADY KNOW THAT...CAN WE GET A NEW PRODUCER FOR NEXT YEAR@!@@ OTHERWISE THIS SHOW
IS TOAST!!!! BORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRING
midori
September 20, 2006 - 06:37 PM
I know...I was really disappointed too. Checked the Project Runway Home page, clicked Schedule: Show 311 is 9/27, Show 312 (Reunion) is 10/4, and Show 313 (?) is 10/11. I don't remember seeing any notice of this during the show last week. Was it announced that this week would be a rerun?
Linda1179
September 20, 2006 - 06:44 PM
I did the same thing. Tuned in ready for another new episode only to get a re-run of a bad episode to begin with!!!
This season is really boring. I don't think it will be back for a season 4. The designers are not very good and the challenges are horrible.
rdwll
September 20, 2006 - 07:06 PM
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I did the same thing. Tuned in ready for another new episode only to get a re-run of a bad episode to begin with!!!
This season is really boring. I don't think it will be back for a season 4. The designers are not very good and the challenges are horrible.
I DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED...THE PREVIEWS DID NOW INDICATE THAT IT WOULD BE A RERUN..THIS WAS JUST HORRIBLE............COUNT ME AMONG THE LOST VIEWERS...I JUST DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TIME FOR THIS ....
AMONG US WE HAVE SPENT A FEW THOUSAND $$$ ON PR STUFF...YOU PROBABLY WILL NOT MISS US...BUT THIS WAS THE PITS...GOOD BYE
bravoisretarded
September 20, 2006 - 09:20 PM
thanks for being so fuckin retarded and not letting people know tonight was a repeat. could you have let it be known sometime in last week's episode? jackasses!
Dramalove
September 20, 2006 - 09:37 PM
They didn't say anything at all about the schedule change. I'm upset, but at the same time it allowed me to watch Justice and America's Next Top Model.
FoodFanOne
September 20, 2006 - 09:42 PM
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thanks for being so fuckin retarded and not letting people know tonight was a repeat. could you have let it be known sometime in last week's episode? jackasses!
If you had listened to the announcer during the promos and advertisements airing during that last show and all week since, you might have picked up on the "all new episode on October 27th" language.
tamarinden
September 21, 2006 - 05:54 AM
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thanks for being so fuckin retarded and not letting people know tonight was a repeat. could you have let it be known sometime in last week's episode? jackasses!
Oh my
I think most people did know. I knew. I know its frustrating to wait. Lets just try not to freak out here.
Just think how rewarding it will be to finally see that episode next week?
Nermal1975
September 21, 2006 - 05:58 AM
Did I miss something? Why wasn't there a new episode last night?
christyg
September 21, 2006 - 06:47 AM
just took the morning watching the new bonus videos that have alot of stuff you didnt show loved them thank you so much
csibears
September 27, 2006 - 04:02 PM
I think jeffery should be voted off because he is very rude. He thinks he is the greatest designer. When it came to make and outfit for the other people love one and he got angelia mom so is so rude he didn't even care that he was so desrepectiful and thats not what a designer does to his model no matter who they are.
stellamojo
September 27, 2006 - 08:57 PM
I was wondering if there's a post, or a way, that those of us who have designed for each of the season 3 challenges could upload our sketches. I'm sure I'm not the only one that's been designing each week to meet the challenges. Thanks!
sunshinebelle
September 27, 2006 - 10:44 PM
okokok sure, we missed out last week's epd. but you know what, i think it's worth the wait. i really like this season's pr. the ppl had more personality
lovekayne
October 1, 2006 - 12:12 PM
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I was wondering if there's a post, or a way, that those of us who have designed for each of the season 3 challenges could upload our sketches. I'm sure I'm not the only one that's been designing each week to meet the challenges. Thanks!
lol i do that too! but i put mine up on myspace in one of the pr groups theres a bunch of ppl that post sketches and then other ppl will give feedback, they should so do that here.
clothesmaven
October 2, 2006 - 11:15 AM
I do think that Angela's mother had an ulterior motive and that was to really tick off Jeffrey... to get him eliminated. Everyone else caught on and Jeffrey was smart enough to just go with it. The woman (and I use that term loosely when relating to her) just went ballistic for no reason initially and if you really pay attention you can see it. She was a -itch with a capital second letter of the alphabet. Now we know where Angela gets her nastiness. Also Angela kept referring to the fact that SHE won. She seemed to think it was her own personal accomplishment. Dudes, Angela's TEAM won because Laura and Michael had the class to make the garment and her little dohickies were merely the buttons which even Laura suggested. I am tired about hearing about Jeffrey's so-called mistreatment of Angela's mother who really was not a nice lady/person. Jeffery was the one who simply did his job and made her an Omar the Tent Maker dress which is more than she deserved.
Jeffery is a great designer and is pure California gold.
tamarinden
October 2, 2006 - 11:39 AM
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I do think that Angela's mother had an ulterior motive and that was to really tick off Jeffrey... to get him eliminated. Everyone else caught on and Jeffrey was smart enough to just go with it. The woman (and I use that term loosely when relating to her) just went ballistic for no reason initially and if you really pay attention you can see it. She was a -itch with a capital second letter of the alphabet. Now we know where Angela gets her nastiness. Also Angela kept referring to the fact that SHE won. She seemed to think it was her own personal accomplishment. Dudes, Angela's TEAM won because Laura and Michael had the class to make the garment and her little dohickies were merely the buttons which even Laura suggested. I am tired about hearing about Jeffrey's so-called mistreatment of Angela's mother who really was not a nice lady/person. Jeffery was the one who simply did his job and made her an Omar the Tent Maker dress which is more than she deserved.
Jeffery is a great designer and is pure California gold.
LOL well I love how you can make Angela the evil one because Jeffrey mistreated her mother. Your whole argument makes no sense and calling an older woman like Angela's mother a "biatch" makes you no better than Jeffrey.
I do not know the whole story and would love to find out what preceded Jeffrey's nasty treatment of Angela's mom, but neither do you really.
He is california gold as in pot? or what? Let me just say that Kayne also would only return by dint of a team challenge. I am Laura's biggest fan, but I do believe she spoke out of frustration more than anything else when she spoke in that manner to Angela.
Just my .02 also I do not pretend to be right, but I do think you could be more respectful of Angela's mother as you do not know the whole story. I certainly don't.
TopChefFix
October 2, 2006 - 05:10 PM
Speaking of the horrible Jeffery.............................
Did anyone read the New York Magazine article about Jeffery and him possibly being a cheater at fashion week? It is published in the 10/2/2006 Issue.
Here is the article:
"H ow bad at sewing is Project Runway final-four contestant Jeffrey Sebelia? A few months ago, the show’s uneliminated contestants left the supervision of the producers to go home and work on their collections. But when they returned for their group show at Bryant Park, fellow contestant Laura Bennett accused Sebelia of cheating. Three weeks earlier, Tim Gunn, Parsons fashion design chair and the show’s mentor, had visited Sebelia in L.A. and declared, “He had a lot of work to do.” Word reached Bennett, whose mother had met and become friendly with Sebelia’s mother. Upon seeing Sebelia’s miraculously finished collection, Bennett told the producers she believed Sebelia had outsourced his sewing—which would disqualify him. “His collection was very ambitious,” says Gunn. “I wasn’t born yesterday.” Adding fuel to the fire was Sebelia’s rather unfinished style of construction throughout the show. “We took the accusation very seriously, and we did a very intense and thorough investigation,” says Gunn. Bravo would not allow him to reveal the resolution. The three finalists will be revealed September 27, and the winner October 18. Sebelia didn’t return calls.
mainer
October 2, 2006 - 05:55 PM
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I do think that Angela's mother had an ulterior motive and that was to really tick off Jeffrey... to get him eliminated. Everyone else caught on and Jeffrey was smart enough to just go with it. The woman (and I use that term loosely when relating to her) just went ballistic for no reason initially and if you really pay attention you can see it. She was a -itch with a capital second letter of the alphabet. Now we know where Angela gets her nastiness. Also Angela kept referring to the fact that SHE won. She seemed to think it was her own personal accomplishment. Dudes, Angela's TEAM won because Laura and Michael had the class to make the garment and her little dohickies were merely the buttons which even Laura suggested. I am tired about hearing about Jeffrey's so-called mistreatment of Angela's mother who really was not a nice lady/person. Jeffery was the one who simply did his job and made her an Omar the Tent Maker dress which is more than she deserved.
Jeffery is a great designer and is pure California gold.
since we didnt see the entire tape of the day how can you say angelas mom was at fault. my take is jeffery was out to annoy her from the get go as he does with most. his insulting and rude behavior is too much for me. if thats california gold he can have it. no matter what you should give some respect to your elders( no spring chix or prude).
he lied when she asked maybe a jacket. Quote" i can make a jacket in so short of time "hmm he seemed to make one for himself in the same time . also he has been riding n laughing about his behavior to her and how ugly the dress was. wow this is a real class act. duh NOT
jeffery might succeed with the rock stars but as far as making it in high fashion he has a snow balls chance in hell unless he extends his range and gets some manners n a class in social behavior.
isnt it strange how the other designers didnt disilkeangela as much as he did. guess strong women turn him off we see that laura does.
all he can do is critize the other designers all the time. again no class
my 2 cents on him n i reserve my right to agree to disagree with anyone. .
alice in maine
christyg
October 7, 2006 - 02:56 AM
hi with all this talk about plus size i would like to see all the designers in the future all to have size 20 young models for one challenge to see if how they handle a larger model .. and have a super plus model to be a judge too..
chefsha
October 7, 2006 - 10:39 AM
During the "jetsetter" episode Jeffery made trousers, a shirt and a jacket. The other designers registered some amazement as the amount he accomplished. So - why would it be a stretch that he finished his collection? He could've had multiple garments in various stages of readiness. He is fast.
That said, with his speed, he could possibly have created something new for Darlene in 4 hours. Maybe he didn't because he was convinced she'd hate it too, and it was better to stay on track.
He purchased one fabric in a color she liked, and one he thought complementary - she happened to hate it, without even (apparently, who knows with editing) knowing how he planned to use it. Darlene took the competition too seriously personal. It seems she has issues.
Something in Darlene's behavior could have triggered her not being chosen.
Design500
October 7, 2006 - 05:51 PM
I don't know if Jeffery outsourced his sewing or not, however he really was the only one along with Uli that knows something about time management they seemed to be the only 2 that had no problem being ready when they were exepected to be.
As for the ocntestants I like the final 4 they all have such differnt styles that it should prove to be interesting as for Uli I really like her flowy concepts .
Jeffery is very "trendy"
Laura 's thing is "Elegance"
Michael is probably better at "sportswear" which is all good
because in the world of design sportswear sells the best IMO
PsychD
October 9, 2006 - 12:02 PM
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I don't know if Jeffery outsourced his sewing or not, however he really was the only one along with Uli that knows something about time management they seemed to be the only 2 that had no problem being ready when they were exepected to be.
As for the ocntestants I like the final 4 they all have such differnt styles that it should prove to be interesting as for Uli I really like her flowy concepts .
Jeffery is very "trendy"
Laura 's thing is "Elegance"
Michael is probably better at "sportswear" which is all good
because in the world of design sportswear sells the best IMO
I think Laura also finished early on some of the challenges. Tim Gunn said that he found her taking a nap during the doggy challenge because she finished her garments.
D
dmb216
October 10, 2006 - 08:33 AM
I think tomorrow's show is going to be very interesting. I also read that thing about Jeffrey. That doesn't surprise me that he would get outside help with sewing. For the entire season he has urked me and although he is talented he seems like the type who will manipulate and find alternative ways to get something done. I think that the way he acted towards Angela's mother was absolutely uncalled for. If Jeffrey and Angela have a problem with each other, he doesn't have to treat her mother like that. It was so sad because you could tell that Angela's mom was uncomfortable and Jeffrey also saw that and made her feel even more crappy. I'm going to be happy to see Jeffrey leave.
Oh I also heard that Laura calls him out on the sewing incident. Tomorrow night's show is going to be awesome!
yogagirl5117
October 10, 2006 - 02:53 PM
Laura had the most amazing bag and briefcase. Anyone know the make or should I say brand? Does anyone know how I can contact her? Does she have a blog or email?
peaceforrock
October 11, 2006 - 10:34 AM
yea she has good design ideas but personally she gets a bit old you know? from episode to episode we all see the same thing, they may be high fashion, but i dont think she has what it takes to win. she needs to expand hre variety just a little bit. i mean im tired of seeing sparkles and plunging neck lines i want something more creative.
LuzMila
October 11, 2006 - 11:16 AM
I REALLY enjoyed the 14 day countdown to the finale LAST season... I miss that... the blogs are fun... but I want MORE MORE MORE LOL
tamarinden
October 11, 2006 - 11:27 AM
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Laura had the most amazing bag and briefcase. Anyone know the make or should I say brand? Does anyone know how I can contact her? Does she have a blog or email?
Her bag looks a lot like an estée lauder echantillon (sorry dont know the english word) that I have myself.
ewalk82
October 11, 2006 - 07:25 PM
I am soooo angry!!! I really hate Laura!!! Just because Jeffrey may not have been portrayed as the nicest guy does not mean he shouldn't show. Of course, we will all have to wait for next week to find out what really happens, but if jeffrey doesn't show, then Laura shouldn't either. What are we in 5th grade? Just because you're jealous that you can't sew nearly as well or that you are pregnant with your 18th child and in a cranky mood because you didn't get ice cream and pickles for breakfast, doesn't mean you should be a snitch. Laura is going to amount to NOTHING!!!! and Jeffrey is going to go on to do great things and leave your fat behind in the dust. I really want to curse you out, but that would be inappropriate and unlike Laura, I am more mature and will bite my tongue!!!!!!!
STUPID STUPID STUPID STUPID @#%*$!!!!!!!
suziq4u01
October 11, 2006 - 10:54 PM
i agree with you on Laura. I think she is just jealous becuase her stuff does not look as trendy and young as jeff's does. i would buy his stuff over hers any day. if they kick him off i will be very upset. like he said i cant do perfection in two days but given my own time i can make my garments beyond perfect. she just wants to win and will do anything to give her self the heads up. but she has one thing coming to her i dont think she will win her stuff is to old looking and and it looks like the stuff that she wears every episode, she just modifies it. i think that she sould be kicked off.
mataharikiri
October 12, 2006 - 09:13 AM
and I think you are a immature brat that takes this way to personally. I am a older woman and I don't want to dress like a pirate hooker thank you. I am sure you spend mad amounts of money on couture and know exactly what you are speaking of though...
Crashinginu
October 12, 2006 - 09:22 AM
I am very disappointed with last nites episode, Laura is very untalented. For her to accuse jeffery of what she did is not right i think she is just jealous becaus ehis collection looks so good. if jeffery is kicked off i will never watch pr again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also all of lauras clothes look old and stale like her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
margot9991
October 12, 2006 - 10:31 AM
I'm also an older woman (although I prefer "mature" :-) ). I would not wear any of Jeffrey's designs myself. But let's face it: they are wonderful! He is definitely very talented.
Laura, on the other hand, is NOT a designer at all. She is a pretty good seamstress. She should not be at this competition, let along, at the finale. And she is an envious [expletive deleted]. She did just what any company executive would do, when he/she cannot compete with a young talent: plunge a knife into his back.
I do hope the producers are making room for Michael, by eliminating Jeffrey (and I think they will). Because if this [expletive deleted] wins, I'm not watching another episode of this.
mataharikiri
October 12, 2006 - 12:33 PM
I prefer 'older' lol because sometimes I am not that 'mature'.. however in this case I think people are taking this way to personally.. All the designers have little personality quirks that were magnified by the producers.. So what.. It is about the clothes and I would wear Laura and Uli's and appreciate Michael and Jeffery's.. It really isn't this all or nothing proposition some of you are making it out to be... Do any of you really wear 'collections' from any one designer based on their personalities or altruistic tendencies????????? I guess some of you haven't really been around the fashion industry.. Most/some/many designers are catty, mercurial bitches.. that is just the nature of an artistic temperment and what I have seem on this show is mild and relatively tame as compared to what really goes on in fashion...
auntydale
October 12, 2006 - 12:50 PM
Didn't you notice that Michael and Tim were also suspicious? Don't you remember that of the 8 designers who showed a collection at FW in the previous 2 seasons, plus the 4 from this season, Jeffrey is the ONLY ONE out of 12 designers to have finished before even showing up at FW! EVERYONE ELSE in the past has had finishing to do, whether it be hems, buttons or final fittings with their models. Jeffrey is COMPLETELY FINISHED. And you don't think that's odd? If a high school student finished his SATs in 30 minutes with a 1500 score, wouldn't that be suspicious?
BTW, Laura was consistently one of the best sewers this season, while Jeffrey was consistently one of the worst. Think Daniel V versus Santino.
wisesharon
October 12, 2006 - 12:53 PM
Since the NY fashion show has already occured.....does anyone have a link so that we can see who presented their line? That would tell us if he is out.Thanks
iMQt
October 12, 2006 - 01:14 PM
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Since the NY fashion show has already occured.....does anyone have a link so that we can see who presented their line? That would tell us if he is out.Thanks
He showed during fashion week, but telling if he was a decoy or not is the BIG question, anyway here's the linky-dink :
http://www.sparklies.org/gallery/thumbnail...s.php?album=228
bergy
October 12, 2006 - 08:19 PM
Is this Laura's mom? Perhaps Angela's. God, you got awefully offended... All the sudden this person is a spoiled little brat cause they have an opinion, and like Jeff's style. Well, I'll tell you, I don't know that much about fashion, as a matter of fact PR (all three seasons) has taught me quite a lot. But I do know what looks good, and Jefferys stuff is young, fresh, hip, and looks killer. I think he really has a unique point of view. Mr. Night will probably win, but he and jeff have been neck and neck the whole season. Actually, two of the challanges that Night won, Jeff could've/ maybe should've. It's Mike, and Jeff, then Uli, and finally Uli. That's right, Laura should not even be there. I'm not saying she has no talent, I'm just sayig it's already been done, and this show is about finding the next new thing, not who can do the same old thing the best. I hope that Jeff didn't do anything wrong cause I do believe that he has a chance.
nycgal
October 13, 2006 - 05:32 AM
I have my new Elle magazine and Uli's outfit is shown. Her model rocks but the airbrushing around the center opening of the dress does not work. Maybe it is just my magazine.
dogabone
October 13, 2006 - 06:13 AM
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Since the NY fashion show has already occured.....does anyone have a link so that we can see who presented their line? That would tell us if he is out.Thanks
SPOILER ALERT!!!
All four presented at Fashion Week; GettyImages had all the shows, as did other sources. The question is whether Jeffrey remained in competition for the final win or was disqualified in that aspect. My guess is that the accusations were unfounded (farming out pleating doesn't violate the rules as long as it is within budget; Jay had knitting done for him in the first PR) and that he continued as a candidate for the Big Prize.
chefsha
October 13, 2006 - 06:23 PM
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Is this Laura's mom? Perhaps Angela's. God, you got awefully offended... All the sudden this person is a spoiled little brat cause they have an opinion, and like Jeff's style. Well, I'll tell you, I don't know that much about fashion, as a matter of fact PR (all three seasons) has taught me quite a lot. But I do know what looks good, and Jefferys stuff is young, fresh, hip, and looks killer. I think he really has a unique point of view. Mr. Night will probably win, but he and jeff have been neck and neck the whole season. Actually, two of the challanges that Night won, Jeff could've/ maybe should've. It's Mike, and Jeff, then Uli, and finally Uli. That's right, Laura should not even be there. I'm not saying she has no talent, I'm just sayig it's already been done, and this show is about finding the next new thing, not who can do the same old thing the best. I hope that Jeff didn't do anything wrong cause I do believe that he has a chance.
My guess is Micheal is the next auf'ed. Not because he doesn't have talent - he has that in spades - but because he needs more experience. He wowed me more than once, and I think in a few years he will shine. I'm glad he got the people's choice, because, I think he will be gone.
mercedes23
October 20, 2006 - 06:55 PM
This was my last season of Project Runway. I am disappointed.
The one thing that will do Jeffrey in is his rude and addict like behavior. Very consistent with a person who uses substances. They have little regard for anyone else, that will be a great way to become the next Fashion Designer. Michael Kors is successful not only because he is talented and very skilled, but he is a professional and a businessman. You can take a person off of drugs, but you cannot take the behavior away until they change that. This is where he will fail. The way he spoke to Angela's mother, his "client" was apalling, and any customer would simply walk out and find another designer. How could Project Runway look at Laura's collection and think she is not a fabulous. Michael was my favorite all the way through, but he had difficulty with focus and strategy. He is caught between two worlds and trying to bring his inspiration of hip hop fashion into white america, and that is where he was set up for failure. He is very talented and needs guidance to help direct his talent to a market that will allow him to cross over all the boundaries. My best wishes to Laura and Michael. I hate that a show i did enjoy, has proven to be fixed, and the winners are tailored to keep the suspense and controversy high. Go back to your original concept, judge people on their merits. I cant imagine a real woman in mainstream america who works and is in shape, wearing even 1 of Jeffrey's outfits. I will miss seeing Tim, Heidi, and Michael and Nina.
tommyguy
October 20, 2006 - 07:58 PM
I agree!
I love Laura and her designs. I was certain that she and Uli would be the top two. Uli's designs were the best she's done and much better than Jeff's. I really thought she'd win!
The proof is in the exit videos. Uli spends a great deal of time ragging on Laura without using her name and being "thankful" that she didn't win. Jeff's video with him dressed up makes it clear he didn't spend 21 hours a day working on his line for his business and PR. He had time to party with friends when PR was on. Going home, talking afterward and driving back to his workroom would have cut a great deal out of at least one day. Michael is going to be "motherf'ing" everything. The only one with class was Laura. She even congratulated Jeff and said that all of them would do well in the fashion business. According to one peson on another thread, Jeff is now saying that Laura is delusional and basically stalked him for two months!
If the PR people don't clean up their act, I'm afraid that lots of us will tune in next year and then tune out if it's more of the same. PR producers - please allow the judges to vote off the people they want to vote off...don't allow them to narrow it down to two and then choose for them which would be better for "good" television!
rpj009
October 21, 2006 - 06:03 PM
Wow, you seem to know alot about human behavior? Are you a shrink or a recovering addict? Jeffrey won!!! It's over and don't watch. Do you really think that's going to affect the outcome of the show in the future. It's really sad that certain people get so wrapped up in a telelvision show. Laura and Uli were 1 trick ponies the entire season and Michael, unfortunately didn't bring the pain when he really needed it. Artists, designers, musicians, politicans don't get to where they're at by being nice people. They get there by being good at what they do and Jeffrey was consistently changing and keeping up with the times. I'm sure you'd be shocked if you knew how your favorite actress or singer acted behind the scenes? It's a telelvision show get over it, move on, and get a life.
R.P. Jacobson
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