Full Version: Episode 136: Wayne H.
Share your opinions on how the Boys of Summer took Wayne out of his shell and into Wayne's new world!
Great job on helping out our family. We need help on occassions and it's great to see you helping out a fellow gay man. It was nice to see positive changes for Wayne. If Wayne doesn't find anyone in New York, he has someone interested in Texas.
Wayne..Wayne..Wayne..
I am addressing this post directly to you out of respect, though I know there is a good chance you'll decide not to seek out 'feedback'.
Well, I'd bet that after your make-better you were exhausted in a good way. Not the very good way- but I'm sure that will come if you follow some of the FF's suggestions. Get out on your bike everyday and learn some Fun salads! You know, salads can have sprinkles of bad foods on top like croutons, bacon bits, macaroni salad, meats, hard boiled egg.. I don't know why Kyan didn't take you for a wax like he did with some other guys, but that's my advice because you have the pale skin and patches of fuzz- not the all-over rugged hair that works sometimes.
I thought the shirt Carson chose for you was excellent for your coloring.. the seasons analogy was interesting. The appetizers were very rich to be stuck on the pineapple like that. I would have used a small silver tray (modern).
Again with the Food, hotdogs are Not Your Friend. However, if you Refuse to give them up and want to tszuj them for a party and fill your apartment with a scent that may lure men up from the street.. do this..
Take 2 pkgs of kosher beef hotdogs and boil them in water as you usually like, drain, cut into 3/4 inch slices THEN..
In a CAST IRON SKILLET (Necessary to Keep a Man/ Buy One!)heat 3/4 cup BEER (Necessary to Keep a Man/ Buy Some!) to boiling.. Add 1/2 pound brown Granulated sugar and a dash of TOBASCO SAUCE (Necessary blah blah- you get it..)
Add the hot dog slices, and stir it all up to coat the slices.. Keep turning to glaze at low heat for One Hour!
This is good to make when your guy is watching a Game! It gives you at least a few of his senses all through the game and is good leverage during commercials.
Speaking of commercials.. your episode had a good mix. The Best One Ever was for Haagan Dazs. I Know that I'm going to be dreaming of strawberry fields forever tonight! I am addicted to fresh strawberries! They are the perfect blend of sweet/tart when they are fresh picked. If I were rich I'd commission poetry on strawberries!
People who pour cream etc over strawberries are like people who turn coffee into milkshakes! ugh!
Well it's late and I want to put this baby to bed. What else can I say? The furniture was creme de la creme, but as I've said cream is not my thing.. I'm more a basic kind of guy. I was a guest in a house that was furnished as nicely as yours and why it worked was that mixed in everywhere were curios from travels. Things you can't buy anymore such as ivory figurines and first editions. Don't laugh- be morbid and go to estate sales in the suburbs. Alot of people throw beautiful libraries away, etc. They have no clue! I have seen jade mixed in with costume jewelry and five and dimeware! And some things are reasonable anywhere such as conch shells, origami, exotic plants.. So I would take your fussy furniture and do a Seven Seas theme. Thom likes themes sometimes :P
Finally save up for a vacation! You are becoming a caricature of a neurotic New Yorker! You make Carson look butch and that is quite saying something and one of my favorite Things so thank you. Yes, it's true, I am crazy as a loon. What did you expect on the Internet?! Get Outside!
Sincerely, Notevayas
I am addressing this post directly to you out of respect, though I know there is a good chance you'll decide not to seek out 'feedback'.
Well, I'd bet that after your make-better you were exhausted in a good way. Not the very good way- but I'm sure that will come if you follow some of the FF's suggestions. Get out on your bike everyday and learn some Fun salads! You know, salads can have sprinkles of bad foods on top like croutons, bacon bits, macaroni salad, meats, hard boiled egg.. I don't know why Kyan didn't take you for a wax like he did with some other guys, but that's my advice because you have the pale skin and patches of fuzz- not the all-over rugged hair that works sometimes.
I thought the shirt Carson chose for you was excellent for your coloring.. the seasons analogy was interesting. The appetizers were very rich to be stuck on the pineapple like that. I would have used a small silver tray (modern).
Again with the Food, hotdogs are Not Your Friend. However, if you Refuse to give them up and want to tszuj them for a party and fill your apartment with a scent that may lure men up from the street.. do this..
Take 2 pkgs of kosher beef hotdogs and boil them in water as you usually like, drain, cut into 3/4 inch slices THEN..
In a CAST IRON SKILLET (Necessary to Keep a Man/ Buy One!)heat 3/4 cup BEER (Necessary to Keep a Man/ Buy Some!) to boiling.. Add 1/2 pound brown Granulated sugar and a dash of TOBASCO SAUCE (Necessary blah blah- you get it..)
Add the hot dog slices, and stir it all up to coat the slices.. Keep turning to glaze at low heat for One Hour!
This is good to make when your guy is watching a Game! It gives you at least a few of his senses all through the game and is good leverage during commercials.
Speaking of commercials.. your episode had a good mix. The Best One Ever was for Haagan Dazs. I Know that I'm going to be dreaming of strawberry fields forever tonight! I am addicted to fresh strawberries! They are the perfect blend of sweet/tart when they are fresh picked. If I were rich I'd commission poetry on strawberries!
People who pour cream etc over strawberries are like people who turn coffee into milkshakes! ugh!
Well it's late and I want to put this baby to bed. What else can I say? The furniture was creme de la creme, but as I've said cream is not my thing.. I'm more a basic kind of guy. I was a guest in a house that was furnished as nicely as yours and why it worked was that mixed in everywhere were curios from travels. Things you can't buy anymore such as ivory figurines and first editions. Don't laugh- be morbid and go to estate sales in the suburbs. Alot of people throw beautiful libraries away, etc. They have no clue! I have seen jade mixed in with costume jewelry and five and dimeware! And some things are reasonable anywhere such as conch shells, origami, exotic plants.. So I would take your fussy furniture and do a Seven Seas theme. Thom likes themes sometimes :P
Finally save up for a vacation! You are becoming a caricature of a neurotic New Yorker! You make Carson look butch and that is quite saying something and one of my favorite Things so thank you. Yes, it's true, I am crazy as a loon. What did you expect on the Internet?! Get Outside!
Sincerely, Notevayas
I LOVED this episode! I have watched the show since it began and find the boys ADORABLE!!! Keep up the gay.....er......good work!!
Woohoo! There was no pushing of the Whitestrips this time! {I was so upset before, that I was beginning to buy into those old rumors about P/G being associated with the devil because of their old "man in the moon & stars" logo.}
I loved Kyan's outfit in the bike scene. We were treated to a view of those yummy arms in that sleeveless shirt. He looks good in brown. Ky also looked HOT in that soft fluffy personalized robe! I saw some sexy chest hair and a glimpse of longish white cotton shorts underneath. ~~~swoon~~~ In his Hip Tip, he was down on the ground - right where I want him! Why don't we lay out that disco shower curtain first...Hee!
I liked Carson's gag reflex with the hotdog, and when he said, "This shirt says pickle smoker."
Ted: (holding studded bracelet) "This is for his wrist, right...?" I think Wayne took a liking to Ted, the way he talked at the restaurant as he really got into the food he ate, and also when he asked, "Where's my cherry?"
Jai's hair has been buzzed. He looked so good during the reveal, and his Hip Tip with Ted was cool.
Thom: "Let's get him out of his masterbatorium". (Holding showerhead): "Our sisters in the, uh, other community, they love these, they live by these." Thom wives, take note: (at British Khaki) "This is furniture I can live with and I do live with." .
I felt sorry for Wayne living in that teeny tiny 5th floor walkup. After Thom's tszujing, the same apartment that looked claustrophobic before looked comfortably cozy. I love the leather headboard. I used to hoard grocery bags like Wayne. Ky: "Carson, remember to put on the grocery list: more bags." Wayne's hair might look a bit thicker if he grows it a tad more, especially in front. He could also stand to get his brows dyed so he doesn't have the typical washed-out redhead look that I'm no stranger to. Speaking of which, uh, Carson? You said his skintone was golden/peachy? To me, it looked like the same bluish/pinkish/white that mine is (even against white). But maybe Carson was right about outfitting him in an Autumn palette. In spite of my blue skin, I look best in Autumn colors for clothes and makeup. Okay, he wouldn't eat shellfish - and why? I'm guessing it's because he's Jewish, as stated in the Fabmobile at the beginning. So what God-fearing Jew eats hotdogs, sausage(in the pasta dish at the restaurant) and bacon? I mean, if I get a hankering for a hotdog, I'll eat a kosher frank (only Hebrew National for my discriminating palette), but never pork! Help me out here, Jewish peeps.
I'm not really feeling the idea of merging the poker show in next week's ep.
I loved Kyan's outfit in the bike scene. We were treated to a view of those yummy arms in that sleeveless shirt. He looks good in brown. Ky also looked HOT in that soft fluffy personalized robe! I saw some sexy chest hair and a glimpse of longish white cotton shorts underneath. ~~~swoon~~~ In his Hip Tip, he was down on the ground - right where I want him! Why don't we lay out that disco shower curtain first...Hee!
I liked Carson's gag reflex with the hotdog, and when he said, "This shirt says pickle smoker."
Ted: (holding studded bracelet) "This is for his wrist, right...?" I think Wayne took a liking to Ted, the way he talked at the restaurant as he really got into the food he ate, and also when he asked, "Where's my cherry?"
Jai's hair has been buzzed. He looked so good during the reveal, and his Hip Tip with Ted was cool.
Thom: "Let's get him out of his masterbatorium". (Holding showerhead): "Our sisters in the, uh, other community, they love these, they live by these." Thom wives, take note: (at British Khaki) "This is furniture I can live with and I do live with." .
I felt sorry for Wayne living in that teeny tiny 5th floor walkup. After Thom's tszujing, the same apartment that looked claustrophobic before looked comfortably cozy. I love the leather headboard. I used to hoard grocery bags like Wayne. Ky: "Carson, remember to put on the grocery list: more bags." Wayne's hair might look a bit thicker if he grows it a tad more, especially in front. He could also stand to get his brows dyed so he doesn't have the typical washed-out redhead look that I'm no stranger to. Speaking of which, uh, Carson? You said his skintone was golden/peachy? To me, it looked like the same bluish/pinkish/white that mine is (even against white). But maybe Carson was right about outfitting him in an Autumn palette. In spite of my blue skin, I look best in Autumn colors for clothes and makeup. Okay, he wouldn't eat shellfish - and why? I'm guessing it's because he's Jewish, as stated in the Fabmobile at the beginning. So what God-fearing Jew eats hotdogs, sausage(in the pasta dish at the restaurant) and bacon? I mean, if I get a hankering for a hotdog, I'll eat a kosher frank (only Hebrew National for my discriminating palette), but never pork! Help me out here, Jewish peeps.
I'm not really feeling the idea of merging the poker show in next week's ep.
Yaaay! I woke up this morning to see that my_guy_ky had posted..but then Kyan did not do the White Strips promo did he? You know, I was so tempted to be a wuss and sit back and read what everyone else posted before giving my impression. It was at least midnight before I decided to post and I posted as if I was giving Wayne my honest first impressions; and I was. It occurs to me that I was trying so hard to get some kind of 'read' on Wayne, that my impressions of the guys is a bit blurry. Well, bring on the repeats. God, I need that course in Gay. Not for my personal life, but to understand this episode.
I expected this episode to be more lighthearted because I assumed the fabulous five would be more comfortable helping a gay guy. I don't know that they were. Carson seemed to make the most connection, but even he seemed a bit fazed sometimes. Ted also was very supportive and like a big brother- especially in the restaurant! Thom expressed an understandable puzzlement and I think he went for uber-posh in part to compensate for the fact that he couldn't get much of an idea of what Wayne was about (except insecure.) Kyan just bypassed all the BS and got Wayne out of that prison of an apartment into the open air as well as to the spa (mind/body connection). Nothing that Jai did really comes to mind at the moment. Wayne was a closed book, and I think he pretty much told Jai that he couldn't be pushed too far socially. His use of the word unclench was odd. It was almost like he was a bit of a hypochondriac like Michael but in a more deliberate way. Like a self-parody almost.
This brings me to my surprise that Thom who several times has used the word therapy, didn't suggest some kind of counseling, though I guess that would have been Jai's dept? All the guys seemed to be implying that finding a 'boyfriend' would be the Answer. I don't know if this guy is ready for that! My main reason for saying this is that Wayne gives the impression that Everything Is Always All About Him. That may be unfair but it is my honest first, second and third impression. At the club, when that boy gave him a second look, I wanted to hang a sign on Wayne that said Warning! Emotionally Unavailable to Others! Of course there is the chance that this man was hiding behind a persona that I would describe as 'Gay Woody Allen'. Maybe this guy is a good comedian. But he didn't drop the persona and that worries.
Well I have to get ready for work, and I won't be back again until it's too late to post for today. There are so many great posts on many threads I have Opinions on. I was stuck on General Comments last night until the show started, because I try to read everything first before I post. No time until Friday. I am so interested in everyone's response to this show. Are you going to be blunt? Are you going to be walking on eggshells because Wayne is gay? Can't wait. notevayas
I expected this episode to be more lighthearted because I assumed the fabulous five would be more comfortable helping a gay guy. I don't know that they were. Carson seemed to make the most connection, but even he seemed a bit fazed sometimes. Ted also was very supportive and like a big brother- especially in the restaurant! Thom expressed an understandable puzzlement and I think he went for uber-posh in part to compensate for the fact that he couldn't get much of an idea of what Wayne was about (except insecure.) Kyan just bypassed all the BS and got Wayne out of that prison of an apartment into the open air as well as to the spa (mind/body connection). Nothing that Jai did really comes to mind at the moment. Wayne was a closed book, and I think he pretty much told Jai that he couldn't be pushed too far socially. His use of the word unclench was odd. It was almost like he was a bit of a hypochondriac like Michael but in a more deliberate way. Like a self-parody almost.
This brings me to my surprise that Thom who several times has used the word therapy, didn't suggest some kind of counseling, though I guess that would have been Jai's dept? All the guys seemed to be implying that finding a 'boyfriend' would be the Answer. I don't know if this guy is ready for that! My main reason for saying this is that Wayne gives the impression that Everything Is Always All About Him. That may be unfair but it is my honest first, second and third impression. At the club, when that boy gave him a second look, I wanted to hang a sign on Wayne that said Warning! Emotionally Unavailable to Others! Of course there is the chance that this man was hiding behind a persona that I would describe as 'Gay Woody Allen'. Maybe this guy is a good comedian. But he didn't drop the persona and that worries.
Well I have to get ready for work, and I won't be back again until it's too late to post for today. There are so many great posts on many threads I have Opinions on. I was stuck on General Comments last night until the show started, because I try to read everything first before I post. No time until Friday. I am so interested in everyone's response to this show. Are you going to be blunt? Are you going to be walking on eggshells because Wayne is gay? Can't wait. notevayas
Wayne, you were so willing and brave! You let us see your quirks and foibles and it only made me cheer louder at your successes. The upscale furniture from Thom was gorgeous....and Thom even offered his own little grooming tip (get rid of the "mangina" chin hair). Wayne in the-great-sponge-search had me rolling on the floor. (Carson, I think you were the last person to have it.) In the loft, when Ted said "we should have given him a bong"...that was hysterical.
Back to Thom....I loved it when Wayne was shaking up the cocktail and it was like music to Thom's ears....me, too, Pumpkin. Off subject: one of my favorite lines from a movie...in Working Girl, Harrison Ford orders tequila when he meets Melanie Griffith at a party and says "I promised myself when we met we'd drink tequila". I've no idea why that popped into my head...(note to self: discuss with therapist).
Back to Thom....I loved it when Wayne was shaking up the cocktail and it was like music to Thom's ears....me, too, Pumpkin. Off subject: one of my favorite lines from a movie...in Working Girl, Harrison Ford orders tequila when he meets Melanie Griffith at a party and says "I promised myself when we met we'd drink tequila". I've no idea why that popped into my head...(note to self: discuss with therapist).
Hands down, the best line from last night that still has me guffawing even 12 hours later:
Wayne: Where's my cherry?
Ted: Well, I can't really answer that Wayne.
FOC-ROTFLMBO!
Wayne: Where's my cherry?
Ted: Well, I can't really answer that Wayne.
FOC-ROTFLMBO!
Could WayneH form Comments thread page 238 be our newly ordained "Make Better"? I certainly hope so! (Oh, honey! Come dish with us!)
I had an absolutely AWFUL time containing myself thoughout this episode! I laughed and squeeled through the whole thing! (Had to keep my hand over my mouth though... persons were LISTENING!!! )
It was just too much fun!
From the blowdryer removing "SG," to that stairmaster of a 5th floor walkup... (poor Thom having to get all that furniture drug up there...) to the comic improvization lesson, to the bike ride (what park has paths next to the water like that? GORGEOUS!) To Carson's flirty little trip through the store in Soho, and Ted's restaurant excursion - and how wonderfully COMFORTABLE all the guys seemed - I was in heaven!
I was terribly surprised that Kyan didn't take Wayne for a manscaping session or a spray on tan... Hmmmm.... why? This dear man is more translucent than *I* am - and THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING!!!
Wayne stressed out easily (Hmmm... another area I can relate to.) But in the final analysis - took those steps out of his comfort zone and looked cool doing it!
I'll come back with my zillion word commentaries... you know I will... but I just had to say that this was FUN!! I'm SO glad they showed it out of order! It was worth seeing. (Finally got to see Jai's new do and Carson's lowlights in an EPISODE! ...and all the deeply unbuttoned shirts...? **THUD!!!** (Sorry Wayne, a straight girl thing.)
**Wild Applause for Queer Eye for the Gay Guy**
Peace and grace to you! --De
I had an absolutely AWFUL time containing myself thoughout this episode! I laughed and squeeled through the whole thing! (Had to keep my hand over my mouth though... persons were LISTENING!!! )
It was just too much fun!
From the blowdryer removing "SG," to that stairmaster of a 5th floor walkup... (poor Thom having to get all that furniture drug up there...) to the comic improvization lesson, to the bike ride (what park has paths next to the water like that? GORGEOUS!) To Carson's flirty little trip through the store in Soho, and Ted's restaurant excursion - and how wonderfully COMFORTABLE all the guys seemed - I was in heaven!
I was terribly surprised that Kyan didn't take Wayne for a manscaping session or a spray on tan... Hmmmm.... why? This dear man is more translucent than *I* am - and THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING!!!
Wayne stressed out easily (Hmmm... another area I can relate to.) But in the final analysis - took those steps out of his comfort zone and looked cool doing it!
I'll come back with my zillion word commentaries... you know I will... but I just had to say that this was FUN!! I'm SO glad they showed it out of order! It was worth seeing. (Finally got to see Jai's new do and Carson's lowlights in an EPISODE! ...and all the deeply unbuttoned shirts...? **THUD!!!** (Sorry Wayne, a straight girl thing.)
**Wild Applause for Queer Eye for the Gay Guy**
Peace and grace to you! --De
Depoetic read up on my loss of cable situation and quickly called me on time to put her cell phone to her tv and let me listen in on the boys adventures. This, combined with the pics of the episode Bravo had already put up, gave me a basic look into the episode I could not see last night. It was funny because sometimes I would hear her bust out in the background which caused me to bust out laughing too.
So Depoetic, here's to you girl!
*raises a glass of apple juice (one glass, too much makes me tipsy)*
All my QE friends are so special, genuine and loving and you've more than proven that you are a right fit into the bunch.
Love ya, girl!
A very happy and grateful TTB
So Depoetic, here's to you girl!
*raises a glass of apple juice (one glass, too much makes me tipsy)*
All my QE friends are so special, genuine and loving and you've more than proven that you are a right fit into the bunch.
Love ya, girl!
A very happy and grateful TTB
B-O-R-I-N-G. Painful to watch and listen to!
Made the fab five seem heterosexual! I really hope there are no more Queer Eye for the Gay Guy episodes!
Made the fab five seem heterosexual! I really hope there are no more Queer Eye for the Gay Guy episodes!
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I was terribly surprised that Kyan didn't take Wayne for a manscaping session or a spray on tan... Hmmmm.... why? This dear man is more translucent than *I* am - and THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING!!!
All I could think was, "well, THIS is why you need to eat your veggies, Wayne!" Honestly, poor Wayne looked like he hadn't been out of his apartment in 15 years, not just NYC.
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Hands down, the best line from last night that still has me guffawing even 12 hours later:
Wayne: Where's my cherry?
Ted: Well, I can't really answer that Wayne.
FOC-ROTFLMBO!
Is it uncouth to quote yourself? Oh well...second best line of the night:
Carson (after swallowing a hotdog whole and spitting it back out): "What do you know. I do have a gag reflex!"
Well, that will get cut if ever shown on NBC
I love this show, but I think you may have "jumped the shark" with Wayne. It wasn't good. He wasn't much changed. He wasn't terribly entertaining. He told Jai pretty clearly he had new stuff, but wasn't going to do much else with himself. He told Ted he wasn't going to expand his diet. He took the free clothes and furniture, and that was about it. It's hard to see how much of an impression Kyan made. We don't watch the show for this. We watch the show to life altering experiences and get cool ideas. Stick with what works. What has made you five stars can evaporate in a season, and I would hate to see that happen.
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I love this show, but I think you may have "jumped the shark" with Wayne. It wasn't good. He wasn't much changed. He wasn't terribly entertaining. He told Jai pretty clearly he had new stuff, but wasn't going to do much else with himself. He told Ted he wasn't going to expand his diet. He took the free clothes and furniture, and that was about it. It's hard to see how much of an impression Kyan made. We don't watch the show for this. We watch the show to life altering experiences and get cool ideas. Stick with what works. What has made you five stars can evaporate in a season, and I would hate to see that happen.
Wrongo!
This was a very interesting show. Just like some of the SGs, this is an MB unlike anyone you or I have met, or are probably likely to- 'target_audience'. Mixing it up is what will keep this show alive!
notevayas
p.s. I agree with my_guy_ky.. the poker/QE idea is not very interesting to me.. shades of Crest White Strips all over again. Bravo, leave the show alone!
And the Reason why we may not get our DVD's is because of all the endorsements buried in every show!
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Again with the Food, hotdogs are Not Your Friend. However, if you Refuse to give them up and want to tszuj them for a party and fill your apartment with a scent that may lure men up from the street.. do this..Take 2 pkgs of kosher beef hotdogs
What an amazing recipe, and I'm glad (for this MB) that you specified kosher beef hotdogs.
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(only Hebrew National for my discriminating palette), but never pork!
I meant to spell it: "palate".
Okay, even if Wayne's hotdogs weren't pork, the sausage in that pasta dish almost certainly was, as well as the bacon. Is he eating all this pork to rebel against possibly being deprived of it during his Jewish upbringing? I just don't see the point in mentioning his faith at the beginning if he's not very orthodox about it. {Now I wonder if he may mention something like being uncircumcised. } I wonder if they mentioned his faith to try to steer the show in a certain direction. I think the production staff or other behind-the-scenes staff is getting too involved this season.
Note, some of the observations about Wayne in your second post here reminded me of some that I saw elsewhere. People there made a good point about how hard it would be to lug the bike up 5 storeys, and I agree. Ky should've waxed the MB's nasty shoulders and gotten him a gym membership. But, gym memberships have already been done on QE, haven't they? The biking is a more unique idea, but if I lived in a tiny 5-storey walkup and had nowhere downstairs or outside to lock up the bike - aside from being really depressed - I wouldn't stick to the bike riding. I fondly remember how in most of the shows that were on last summer/early fall, the F5 (FF? Hee!) stuck to ideas that worked for the MB and improvised more. Now, I wonder if more of what they do has been planned by TPTB.
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B-O-R-I-N-G. Painful to watch and listen to!
Made the fab five seem heterosexual! I really hope there are no more Queer Eye for the Gay Guy episodes!
HATE TO SAY IT, GOTTA AGREE... PAINFUL TO WATCH. CARSON & THE HOT DOG WAS THE HIGH POINT
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I love this show, but I think you may have "jumped the shark" with Wayne. It wasn't good. He wasn't much changed. He wasn't terribly entertaining. He told Jai pretty clearly he had new stuff, but wasn't going to do much else with himself. He told Ted he wasn't going to expand his diet. He took the free clothes and furniture, and that was about it. It's hard to see how much of an impression Kyan made. We don't watch the show for this. We watch the show to life altering experiences and get cool ideas. Stick with what works. What has made you five stars can evaporate in a season, and I would hate to see that happen.
GOTTA AGREE, AGAIN...LOVE THE SHOW NORMALLY, EVERY OTHER EPISODE, EVEN TAEBEE WAS FUN, CAUSE JAMES WAS TRYING SO HARD...
, BUT THINK THIS EPISODE JUMPED THE SHARK FOR SURE... IT JUST WAS LACKING THE USUAL EXCITEMENT.. THERE DIDN'T SEEM TO BE MUCH CHANGE HAPPENING..JUST A "GO ALONG" WITH ATTITUDE...
Some additonal thoughts after watching this ep again:
Jai: "It's about trust and the people that are there are there to support you." (That sounds like our group here on the boards....like De coming to TTB's aid to make sure she didn't miss the new ep and TTB sharing with us her heartfelt appreciation for De's thoughtfulness. That's what I'm talking about!!)
I loved it when Wayne said he wanted to thank "you and you and you and you..." and Thom looked around as if to see who Wayne was talking to. (Okay, I pretty much love everything Thom does.)
I agree about straight girls enjoying seeing the guys with their shirts unbuttoned......"AWESOME!" (Wow, that just jumped out....Thom was right....again.)
Kyan: a bicycle....really? Poor Wayne in his 5th floor walk-up. Maybe he'll find some muscle-bound boy to schlep it up and down the stairs for him. (From this board to ghod's ears.)
Ted: When you gave your ending tip, were you perchance wearing a dog tag under your shirt?
Wayne: To paraphrase Thom, we like you....we really, really like you. But who wouldn't be intimidated sitting next to uber-hot Kyan on beauty night!
Jai: "It's about trust and the people that are there are there to support you." (That sounds like our group here on the boards....like De coming to TTB's aid to make sure she didn't miss the new ep and TTB sharing with us her heartfelt appreciation for De's thoughtfulness. That's what I'm talking about!!)
I loved it when Wayne said he wanted to thank "you and you and you and you..." and Thom looked around as if to see who Wayne was talking to. (Okay, I pretty much love everything Thom does.)
I agree about straight girls enjoying seeing the guys with their shirts unbuttoned......"AWESOME!" (Wow, that just jumped out....Thom was right....again.)
Kyan: a bicycle....really? Poor Wayne in his 5th floor walk-up. Maybe he'll find some muscle-bound boy to schlep it up and down the stairs for him. (From this board to ghod's ears.)
Ted: When you gave your ending tip, were you perchance wearing a dog tag under your shirt?
Wayne: To paraphrase Thom, we like you....we really, really like you. But who wouldn't be intimidated sitting next to uber-hot Kyan on beauty night!
NOTE, Please, excuse my english... it has gone just wrong (just like Ted said it)
I think this episode was good... maybe not one of the best, but it was good enough
I've been in Wayne's pity trip, and is very (VERY) hard to change lane to the fast one (and I'm only 21)
With some help from his friends and himself, he can get back on the good track.
I think this episode was good... maybe not one of the best, but it was good enough
I've been in Wayne's pity trip, and is very (VERY) hard to change lane to the fast one (and I'm only 21)
With some help from his friends and himself, he can get back on the good track.
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I love this show, but I think you may have "jumped the shark" with Wayne. It wasn't good. He wasn't much changed. He wasn't terribly entertaining. He told Jai pretty clearly he had new stuff, but wasn't going to do much else with himself. He told Ted he wasn't going to expand his diet. He took the free clothes and furniture, and that was about it. It's hard to see how much of an impression Kyan made. We don't watch the show for this. We watch the show to life altering experiences and get cool ideas. Stick with what works. What has made you five stars can evaporate in a season, and I would hate to see that happen.
Well, nobody is going to make huge enormous changes right off - ok, maybe Adam Zalta, but nobody who is as set in his ways as Wayne appeared. I think that he was letting it all sink in, and that he'll use this to improve his life. Baby steps. He seemed quite appreciative and somewhat overwhelmed to me.
I thought he was quite funny, too, in a highly understated way. He did very well at the Upright Citizen's Brigade improv thing. He reminded me of William Hurt, oddly. He looked a little like William Hurt, and had that same very under-the-radar humor going on.
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Wrongo!
This was a very interesting show. Just like some of the SGs, this is an MB unlike anyone you or I have met, or are probably likely to- 'target_audience'. Mixing it up is what will keep this show alive!
notevayas
p.s. I agree with my_guy_ky.. the poker/QE idea is not very interesting to me.. shades of Crest White Strips all over again. Bravo, leave the show alone!
You're right, I like seeing this wide mix of people. The same old types would get very dull. Well, ok, not for us fanatics but it wouldn't bode well for the life of the show.
The oddest thing about the poker episode - while watching this episode, I suddenly remembered that I'd dreamed they were on Celebrity Poker Showdown (yes, I AM watching way too much tv, thanks very much). Then, where are they on the commercial for the next episode? A casino!! With poker stuff going on! I suppose maybe I read somewhere that they were going to be in a poker situation, but I sure don't remember it and I know I hadn't seen a preview for the next show. **insert Twilight Zone music**
Oddness aside, I don't like the idea either.
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Great job on helping out our family. We need help on occassions and it's great to see you helping out a fellow gay man. It was nice to see positive changes for Wayne. If Wayne doesn't find anyone in New York, he has someone interested in Texas.
That's very sweet of you! You made my day!
WH
Okay, I am sorry, but I have got to say this. This is the most self-centered human being I have ever seen. This has nothing to do with gay or straight, as I have friends of both persuasions in both sexes, and I have never seen such a blatent display. The guys also seemed a little non-plussed. I mean, Wayne's friends come over for his little cocktails and nibbles beforehand and the comment made by the guys in the loft (I cannot remember exactly who made it) was 'well, he has great friends, he must be an okay guy' or words to that effect. I think the guys were thrown by this one. Carson tried, but even he could only get off a few one-liners. And Ted let the entire stuffed date thing drop. That was BEGGING for laughs. All the guys, especially Thom, seemed off. I mean, they could have really flirted and they really held back. No one could get a thread on him.
I am thinking this was a way for Wayne to get some new threads and a FABULOUS remake (amazing Thom) on his tiny apartment. He has no intention of changing or doing anything that might require actual effort on his part. He could not even be bothered to thanks the guys BY NAME, for God's sake.
The guys were not to blame; they tried. Their subject was uninterested in change, and I wonder why he volunteered. He is never going to get a date now. I wonder why no one suggested therapy for obvious (to me at least) clinical depression. I will tune in next week and hope for the best.
I am thinking this was a way for Wayne to get some new threads and a FABULOUS remake (amazing Thom) on his tiny apartment. He has no intention of changing or doing anything that might require actual effort on his part. He could not even be bothered to thanks the guys BY NAME, for God's sake.
The guys were not to blame; they tried. Their subject was uninterested in change, and I wonder why he volunteered. He is never going to get a date now. I wonder why no one suggested therapy for obvious (to me at least) clinical depression. I will tune in next week and hope for the best.
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NOTE, Please, excuse my english... it has gone just wrong (just like Ted said it)
I think this episode was good... maybe not one of the best, but it was good enough
I've been in Wayne's pity trip, and is very (VERY) hard to change lane to the fast one (and I'm only 21)
With some help from his friends and himself, he can get back on the good track.
I am going to pretend 'NOTE' means me because I like your user name. Hi KenjiFinster! What does it mean if anything?
Your English is very fine. You made a good point about his friends- they seemed caring. I want them to post if they want to refute my impressions.
I agree that Wayne should have a gym membership, because his apartment is too small to work out in. I don't have a gym membership or want one; but outside is just steps away. There is no substitute for nature and the open air! It heals everything. It would kill me to live in a tomb in the city- even a big tomb. notevayas
PS People have mentioned that it is a problem to carry a bike upstairs. Racing bikes are only a few lbs and you just balance the bar across your shoulder. Or his building may have a place near the laundry or storage.
Also, it's much easier to meet people outside than inside.
Hey Wayne! Nice to see ya posting! So... give us the details man. Now that you've seen the show, what good parts did they edit out? I have to tell you... when Kyan was in that terry robe on the couch and told you to come over closer and snuggle up to him, my heart literally skipped a beat. They would have had to call 911 for me at that point! Any comments/reflections you have about your time spent with the Fab 5 are most welcome! Take care.
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Note, some of the observations about Wayne in your second post here reminded me of some that I saw elsewhere.
Where?
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I fondly remember how in most of the shows that were on last summer/early fall, the F5 (FF? Hee!) stuck to ideas that worked for the MB and improvised more. Now, I wonder if more of what they do has been planned by TPTB.
Like the poker idea next week? Like Crest White Strips? Yeah
It's crazy how much junk this show can carry and still be entertaining.
I'm watching the show in the corner as I type this and Wayne is 'thanking' the guys by saying "..and you and you and you and you." That Is So Cold!
And Finally, now that I see the Repeat I can appreciate how funny Ted was! You mentioned a few of his great lines...
1. The 'Cherry'line
2. The 'Bong' line
3. The 'C-ring/Cuff'line
were the funniest, but Ted has been 'on' the past few episodes. All hail to Ted! notevayas
wow! now excuse me, BBB...but why do some SG's own postings get thru and others don't? how does that work? I've noticed family members of SG's and SG's themselves send in postings that never get put up! what gives?
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I thought he was quite funny, too, in a highly understated way.
Highly understated, indeed. Maybe I'm dense, but I didn't detect any sense of humor in him. Maybe his funny remarks got edited out? I was lost when Kyan was talking to him in the Fabmobile about his "dark dry wit".
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Yaaay! I woke up this morning to see that my_guy_ky had posted..but then Kyan did not do the White Strips promo did he?
Well, I'm not one to spread rumors, much less start them, but...rumor has it that Kyan did a promo for the White Strips in this ep, but after he heard that I threatened not to post on this thread, he begged the producers to edit that part out, so that he wouldn't have to miss any of my loving words.
As I watched this episode, Bohemian Rhapsody kept playing in my mind. I wonder why? {{snicker}}
Anyway, it was painful for me to watch and the reason is that 10 years ago I was exactly where Wayne was. I was in a rut. I never went anywhere. I lived in a crappy, cramped apartment. My diet sucked (okay, that hasn’t changed-much). Moreover, I hadn’t dated in about 3 years. I lived alone. My life had become BEIGE. It was Oatmeal. Unfortunately, I didn’t have the F5 to come to my rescue, to push me over the edge. But now I go out. I talk to people I don’t know. I’ve fixed up my house. I’ve adopted 3 dogs. I travel. I’m even going to Ireland—by myself, thank you very much. But heck, even I won’t get up on a stage in front of people. So, I’m giving KUDOS to Wayne for having the guts to see he needed help and make that call. As one of the guys said in a previous episode, admitting you have a problem is the first step of recovery.
Having watched this show now 4 times, I’m really coming to love Wayne’s dry, dark sense of humor. That impromptu song he did in the UBC theater with his friend Paul was great! Loved the bulge! I also find it scary just how much we have in common. Geez, if it weren’t for the age difference, I might think Wayne and I were separated at birth. Wayne, are you Irish by any chance? I love 80s music (Hey Wayne, can I have your DD tour button? I have a PowerStation tour button I might be willing to trade you). I too cannot stand to eat food that resembles what it was when it was alive so that leaves out most seafood. I hear you Wayne on the muscles. Eww. Chewy ewwy. Filleted catfish is about it for me in that department. I won’t touch lobster or crab unless it’s mixed in with a salad. I hate eating chicken off a bone but will if I cannot have it any other way. Have you ever eaten really close to the chicken bone and found blood? Someone pass me the trash can, please. However, I do believe vegetables are our friends. Comfort foods are good, Wayne, but dude, you have to eat some greens, man, even if you smother them in cheese sauce or ranch dressing! Eat some carrots while you’re at it. Oh, by the way, Jai, carrot tops are green.
I also wondered how he lost the 50 lbs and then I remember, oh yeah, Wayne lives in a 5th floor walk up! If I lived on the 5th floor without an elevator, I’d make real nice with the neighbors on the first floor and move in with them.
I think Wayne enjoyed the spanking he got from Kyan a bit toooo much. Hmmm. Did you all notice the huge smile on his face when that happened? That says a lot about you, Wayne! Maybe more than you want us to know
And just what is so wrong with fleece? I love my fleece tops, and pants and socks and...well, you get the idea. However, I’d gladly give up mine to go shopping with Carson. We could both cruise for guys! BTW, loved the green jacket Carson picked out for Wayne. Wayne practically purred when Carson put that on him. So, he’s a tactile fellow in addition to being kinky. Wayne, are you beginning to regret exposing your life to the world?
Of all the things in Wayne’s apartment, my favorite thing was – are you ready for this? The turntable. I miss vinyl. I think I miss the very large album art you don't get these days with CDs. Also, loved what Thom did with the framed comic books. I do that too but with my favorite book jackets.
Gay Kool-aid? I just kept thinking about Jim Jones and Jonestown, Guyana. Okay, I have a very morbid mind. The cherry line is without a doubt my new favorite line from all the shows. LOVE YOU TED! And good for Wayne for doing a test run on the drink. Some of our SGs could have done with a good test run. Of course, a test marathon wouldn’t have helped out Alan Correy but little would have.
Loved it when Paul arrived at the apartment. The huge smile on Wayne’s face said A LOT! Did anyone else notice Wayne bounce into his new bedroom? Very reminiscent of John V.
So yeah, Wayne can be a drama queen but he’s a drama queen with a cool apartment, great clothes and new pots and pans. Wayne, go forth and…do whatever. And for gawd sake, EAT SOME VEGETABLES!
Anyway, it was painful for me to watch and the reason is that 10 years ago I was exactly where Wayne was. I was in a rut. I never went anywhere. I lived in a crappy, cramped apartment. My diet sucked (okay, that hasn’t changed-much). Moreover, I hadn’t dated in about 3 years. I lived alone. My life had become BEIGE. It was Oatmeal. Unfortunately, I didn’t have the F5 to come to my rescue, to push me over the edge. But now I go out. I talk to people I don’t know. I’ve fixed up my house. I’ve adopted 3 dogs. I travel. I’m even going to Ireland—by myself, thank you very much. But heck, even I won’t get up on a stage in front of people. So, I’m giving KUDOS to Wayne for having the guts to see he needed help and make that call. As one of the guys said in a previous episode, admitting you have a problem is the first step of recovery.
Having watched this show now 4 times, I’m really coming to love Wayne’s dry, dark sense of humor. That impromptu song he did in the UBC theater with his friend Paul was great! Loved the bulge! I also find it scary just how much we have in common. Geez, if it weren’t for the age difference, I might think Wayne and I were separated at birth. Wayne, are you Irish by any chance? I love 80s music (Hey Wayne, can I have your DD tour button? I have a PowerStation tour button I might be willing to trade you). I too cannot stand to eat food that resembles what it was when it was alive so that leaves out most seafood. I hear you Wayne on the muscles. Eww. Chewy ewwy. Filleted catfish is about it for me in that department. I won’t touch lobster or crab unless it’s mixed in with a salad. I hate eating chicken off a bone but will if I cannot have it any other way. Have you ever eaten really close to the chicken bone and found blood? Someone pass me the trash can, please. However, I do believe vegetables are our friends. Comfort foods are good, Wayne, but dude, you have to eat some greens, man, even if you smother them in cheese sauce or ranch dressing! Eat some carrots while you’re at it. Oh, by the way, Jai, carrot tops are green.
I also wondered how he lost the 50 lbs and then I remember, oh yeah, Wayne lives in a 5th floor walk up! If I lived on the 5th floor without an elevator, I’d make real nice with the neighbors on the first floor and move in with them.
I think Wayne enjoyed the spanking he got from Kyan a bit toooo much. Hmmm. Did you all notice the huge smile on his face when that happened? That says a lot about you, Wayne! Maybe more than you want us to know
And just what is so wrong with fleece? I love my fleece tops, and pants and socks and...well, you get the idea. However, I’d gladly give up mine to go shopping with Carson. We could both cruise for guys! BTW, loved the green jacket Carson picked out for Wayne. Wayne practically purred when Carson put that on him. So, he’s a tactile fellow in addition to being kinky. Wayne, are you beginning to regret exposing your life to the world?
Of all the things in Wayne’s apartment, my favorite thing was – are you ready for this? The turntable. I miss vinyl. I think I miss the very large album art you don't get these days with CDs. Also, loved what Thom did with the framed comic books. I do that too but with my favorite book jackets.
Gay Kool-aid? I just kept thinking about Jim Jones and Jonestown, Guyana. Okay, I have a very morbid mind. The cherry line is without a doubt my new favorite line from all the shows. LOVE YOU TED! And good for Wayne for doing a test run on the drink. Some of our SGs could have done with a good test run. Of course, a test marathon wouldn’t have helped out Alan Correy but little would have.
Loved it when Paul arrived at the apartment. The huge smile on Wayne’s face said A LOT! Did anyone else notice Wayne bounce into his new bedroom? Very reminiscent of John V.
So yeah, Wayne can be a drama queen but he’s a drama queen with a cool apartment, great clothes and new pots and pans. Wayne, go forth and…do whatever. And for gawd sake, EAT SOME VEGETABLES!
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Actually my nick has this meaning:
Kenji (Japanese name that means Second Son
and I got the Finster from Chuckie Finster (Rugrats) bc I'm just like him.
Is my english really fine? Because is very hard to practice it here in Chile (A friend of mine sends me the show on a tape using the mail system of my company... sometimes work in an american company is good)
And I gave the point about his friends because he seemed to need them for support in the bad times. The one friend I had during my "get inside the shell" phase helped me a lot.. even more than all the psychologists I went.. and I was suicidal.
About the bike, there are some bikes that are very (VERY) lightweight and can be carried almost anywhere (and that said by a person that just can't ride one...)
Actually my nick has this meaning:
Kenji (Japanese name that means Second Son
and I got the Finster from Chuckie Finster (Rugrats) bc I'm just like him.
Is my english really fine? Because is very hard to practice it here in Chile (A friend of mine sends me the show on a tape using the mail system of my company... sometimes work in an american company is good)
And I gave the point about his friends because he seemed to need them for support in the bad times. The one friend I had during my "get inside the shell" phase helped me a lot.. even more than all the psychologists I went.. and I was suicidal.
About the bike, there are some bikes that are very (VERY) lightweight and can be carried almost anywhere (and that said by a person that just can't ride one...)
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Woohoo! There was no pushing of the Whitestrips this time!...
This episode had an undercurrent of uneasiness running through it already. The Whitestrips promo would have been So Very Depressing! And No O-b-z! Yes!
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I loved Kyan's outfit in the bike scene. We were treated to a view of those yummy arms in that sleeveless shirt. He looks good in brown. Ky also looked HOT in that soft fluffy personalized robe! I saw some sexy chest hair and a glimpse of longish white cotton shorts underneath. ~~~swoon~~~ In his Hip Tip, he was down on the ground - right where I want him! Why don't we lay out that disco shower curtain first...Hee!
Wet Kyan...OK. Wet Carson...Ahhhhhhh Yes!
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I liked Carson's gag reflex with the hotdog, and when he said, "This shirt says pickle smoker."
Carson is the only man I've ever seen that can gag and still look sexy! Not only was he dressed to perfection, he looked 10 years younger than last week. If they could bottle Love... Hey, it's my secret too.
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Ted: (holding studded bracelet) "This is for his wrist, right...?" I think Wayne took a liking to Ted, the way he talked at the restaurant as he really got into the food he ate, and also when he asked, "Where's my cherry?"
Ted saved this show! He and Carson and Kyan had the perfect balance of humor and compassion. Thom and Jai were fine, but more visably disconcerted, by Waynes lack of involvement. It's like they did the Make-Better around him. Wayne is the Poster Boy for Passive-Aggression! and you, and you, and you, and you...stuff it in a fig Wayne!
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Jai's hair has been buzzed. He looked so good during the reveal, and his Hip Tip with Ted was cool.
On a date, sure. But where would we be here without religion, sex, and politics to chat about? Carson wore his rosary well. I have never done that but I don't find it offensive the way I did with Madonna. It wasn't commercial.
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Thom: "Let's get him out of his masterbatorium". (Holding showerhead): "Our sisters in the, uh, other community, they love these, they live by these." Thom wives, take note: (at British Khaki) "This is furniture I can live with and I do live with." .
Is it masturbation when your lover tells you to? He He! And was Thom talking about lesbians? I wonder how they feel about that? I would be interested in a Queer Eye for the Queer Gal episode. Carson could find his golden fleece! And I'm not surprised that Thom likes fussy furniture. A white couch! Way to make your guests feel Comfortable Thom!! I kick off my shoes in the mudroom and shower first thing, but still.. a White Couch? In front of the fire? Romantic not!
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I felt sorry for Wayne living in that teeny tiny 5th floor walkup. After Thom's tszujing, the same apartment that looked claustrophobic before looked comfortably cozy. I love the leather headboard. I used to hoard grocery bags like Wayne. Ky: "Carson, remember to put on the grocery list: more bags." Wayne's hair might look a bit thicker if he grows it a tad more, especially in front. He could also stand to get his brows dyed so he doesn't have the typical washed-out redhead look that I'm no stranger to. Speaking of which, uh, Carson? You said his skintone was golden/peachy? To me, it looked like the same bluish/pinkish/white that mine is (even against white). But maybe Carson was right about outfitting him in an Autumn palette. In spite of my blue skin, I look best in Autumn colors for clothes and makeup. Okay, he wouldn't eat shellfish - and why? I'm guessing it's because he's Jewish, as stated in the Fabmobile at the beginning. So what God-fearing Jew eats hotdogs, sausage(in the pasta dish at the restaurant) and bacon? I mean, if I get a hankering for a hotdog, I'll eat a kosher frank (only Hebrew National for my discriminating palette), but never pork! Help me out here, Jewish peeps.
I'm not really feeling the idea of merging the poker show in next week's ep.
I saw the promo clip and it's so funny I am changing my mind and thinking I'll love next week! notevayas
This episode I really liked. It was really interesting to see the boys help another gay man. Our Boys of Summer did a great job with Wayne! The only thing that dissappointed me was when Wayne went to thank everyone at the end, he did not mention the Fab Five. He should have gave them a special thanks for all they did for him.
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Could WayneH form Comments thread page 238 be our newly ordained "Make Better"? I certainly hope so! (Oh, honey! Come dish with us!)
From his one and two line posts so far, I'd say Wayne has as much to say here, as he did on the show. So much for the theory that he was edited unfairly..
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I had an absolutely AWFUL time containing myself thoughout this episode! I laughed and squeeled through the whole thing! (Had to keep my hand over my mouth though... persons were LISTENING!!! )
Depoetic had ThomsTeddyBear listening on the speakerphone because TTB had cable problems. Obsession is our bond here!
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From the blowdryer removing "SG," to that stairmaster of a 5th floor walkup... (poor Thom having to get all that furniture drug up there...) to the comic improvization lesson, to the bike ride (what park has paths next to the water like that? GORGEOUS!) To Carson's flirty little trip through the store in Soho, and Ted's restaurant excursion - and how wonderfully COMFORTABLE all the guys seemed - I was in heaven!
Stay away from the 'furniture drug'! Really, Depoetic.. you think the guys were completely comfortable with Wayne?? Look again at the body language with Thom and Wayne at the fussy furniture store- Thom puts his hand on Waynes knee a nanosecond then lifts it as if he felt Wayne tense. Wayne does not look the guys in the eyes very often at all! Even at the end of this 3- day intervention. And Now.. he has the Nerve to call himself a victim!
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I was terribly surprised that Kyan didn't take Wayne for a manscaping session or a spray on tan... Hmmmm.... why? This dear man is more translucent than *I* am - and THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING!!!
And WHY did he NOT wear a shirt to Greet his guests, or shave for them. Did he mix them drinks and was that edited, or did he just show off his material acquisitions? I would ask Wayne, but he's probably too Victimised to answer.
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Wayne stressed out easily (Hmmm... another area I can relate to.) But in the final analysis - took those steps out of his comfort zone and looked cool doing it!
I think being the center of attention and giving back very little IS his comfort zone. I much preferred the big woman who sang with a smile for the audience. I imagine that she has/had insecurities about her size, but she looked more fun to hang out with than Mr. Fussywuss!
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I'll come back with my zillion word commentaries... you know I will... but I just had to say that this was FUN!!
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I'm SO glad they showed it out of order! It was worth seeing. (Finally got to see Jai's new do and Carson's lowlights in an EPISODE! ...and all the deeply unbuttoned shirts...? **THUD!!!** (Sorry Wayne, a straight girl thing.)
And a gay man thing as well.. Carson wears a rosary very well, and he knows how to rivet an audiences attention- he is Definitely Going Places!
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**Wild Applause for Queer Eye for the Gay Guy**
Peace and grace to you! --De
This was an interesting show from an entertainment standpoint. I have said that it takes guts to put one's life on display. And I am not irritated because Wayne has human faults- we all do. I am amazed though that he seemed to recoil from even Jai. I can see being shy- this was quite something else.. Another poster said self-absorbed.. how about self-obsessed!
And I also blame him for there being so few posts here. He alerted us to his presence before this thread was even available. Why? So he could communicate with us? Obviously not! Well I am not intimidated from posting my opinion. Gay does not always mean..ad unguer factus homo! ( a highly accomplished, polished man)
notevayas
PS.. I appreciated Thoms remark at the end when they were presenting the gift watch to Wayne, that the inscription FF could mean something else. I also appreciate the Tedelicious remark during the commentary during Waynes little improv skit. Someone may be relaying little tidbits from our site to either the Fab Five or someone who works with them. ALL THE MORE REASON for us to post HONEST feedback and not get sidetracked or intimidated. IMO
notevayas
ride si sapis = laugh if you are wise
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Thanks..
Actually my nick has this meaning:
Kenji (Japanese name that means Second Son
and I got the Finster from Chuckie Finster (Rugrats) bc I'm just like him.
Is my english really fine? Because is very hard to practice it here in Chile (A friend of mine sends me the show on a tape using the mail system of my company... sometimes work in an american company is good)
And I gave the point about his friends because he seemed to need them for support in the bad times. The one friend I had during my "get inside the shell" phase helped me a lot.. even more than all the psychologists I went.. and I was suicidal.
About the bike, there are some bikes that are very (VERY) lightweight and can be carried almost anywhere (and that said by a person that just can't ride one...)
You are lucky to have such good friends. So, you are like Chuckie. I think Wayne is like Chuckie also. Do you think I am too critical of Wayne? Many gay men are critical of 'Queer Eye for the Straight Guy' because they think the Fab Five are too 'feminine' and this embarrasses them. Sometimes, what bothers us most about other people is what bothers us most about ourself. I want to be fair in my opinion to Wayne.
Is it a good thing to be a second son, or do you feel abandoned? I am sorry that you were suicidal. That was a long time ago for me. It is hard to find someone to trust. But when you find that person it is true that nothing else matters very much. I hope that you have that person or find him soon. 21 is the perfect age to find someone! Or be where they can find you! When I was 21 I looked so much younger than 21! It was funny.. But I felt so much older than I do now. Psychologists never could help. My lover found a psychiatrist that does help. I see her once a month.
Sometimes she is like Angelica on the Rugrats, but I still like her. She is very fashionable more than I. She is the only one I have mentioned this show to, because my lover does not like it, and I don't have friends near my age. So maybe I envy Wayne, and you, and other people a little bit. Sometimes to have one good thing, you can't have everything you want! Anyway, thank you for replying to my post!
notevayas
PS In Rugrats, Chuckie likes Tommy. Is Thom your favorite? Is Jai? In Japan, Carson and Kyan are favorites.. at least on the artists sites!
My wife and I watched this episode last night. We hated it. There was none of the chemistry that they usually get by taking a straight guy out of his element and changing him for the better.
We love the show and even watch the intro although we have seen it in ever other episode. Last night, for the first time, we were hitting the fast forward on the TiVo to get though to the end of the show.
Please get back to the format that made the show a hit.
If you want to do a show about the Fab5 helping the lost Gay Guy, then do it, but on another show, not on the Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.
We love the show and even watch the intro although we have seen it in ever other episode. Last night, for the first time, we were hitting the fast forward on the TiVo to get though to the end of the show.
Please get back to the format that made the show a hit.
If you want to do a show about the Fab5 helping the lost Gay Guy, then do it, but on another show, not on the Queer Eye for the Straight Guy.
My brother is Wayne's friend Paul. He really is that shy. I laughed when my brother put a white thing in his mouth and asked if it was edible. It wasn't it was a lima bean!
My brother, Paul, was one of Wayne's friends. They do the improve together. He's the one that comes into the apt first to see the new space. He also picks a dried lima bean and puts in his mouth.
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Yaaay! I woke up this morning to see that my_guy_ky had posted..but then Kyan did not do the White Strips promo did he?
Well, I'm not one to spread rumors, much less start them, but...rumor has it that Kyan did a promo for the White Strips in this ep, but after he heard that I threatened not to post on this thread, he begged the producers to edit that part out, so that he wouldn't have to miss any of my loving words.
I don't doubt it my_guy_ky! After your fantasy make-better post I don't think he would want to test your patience!
It's no secret Wayne has tested mine. And now, alone this weekend with my neighbors who still use gay to mean the bright patterns on my shirt quite innocently, I am feeling more of a connection with this odd man.
And for all the Fab 5 call him sister he is still a man, in the ways we are blessed as well as cursed.
Furthermore, I'm at loose ends this family holiday and Bored! After watching the repeats Again it has occurred to me that this first real 'Queer Eye for the Gay Guy' provides an excellent template for one of my recurring fantasies.. What if I were in different circumstances? What if I were in similar circumstances to Wayne and was lucky enough to be chosen for a real 'make-better'. Goodness knows I have real deficiencies that I could not hide if I were alone. It's a tough world and Wayne has evolved some negative habits that may be necessary for him to deal with his cold city environment. Should I attempt to understand?
I have made no secret that I am disappointed with my interpretation of Wayne's reaction to the Fab Five and the make-better. He now refers to himself as a 'victim', but this could be meant in half-jest. It's hard to see where the 'dark, under the radar humor' that the very perceptive Kyan spoke of, begins and where it ends. I still compare it to a sort of 'Gay Woody' persona. It's like 'Look at me! because I'm so maladjusted.' It's like wanting sympathy and at the same time believing that you're some kind of misunderstood genius that is better on some level than the 'ordinary' people. But deeper still you worry that you're not worth the air you breath. THE BOTTOM LINE, though, is that the FOCUS is almost exclusively on ONESSELF. Now I am no expert on comics that seduce their children. But I know that in the long run, what you give is what you receive. notevayas
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As I watched this episode, Bohemian Rhapsody kept playing in my mind. I wonder why? {{snicker}}
Anyway, it was painful for me to watch and the reason is that 10 years ago I was exactly where Wayne was. I was in a rut. I never went anywhere. I lived in a crappy, cramped apartment.....
So yeah, Wayne can be a drama queen but he’s a drama queen with a cool apartment, great clothes and new pots and pans. Wayne, go forth and…do whatever. And for gawd sake, EAT SOME VEGETABLES!
celtic_wench I hear you. And as I said in my previous post I have been softening my attitude a bit. He did smile a few times. I see the scene in the fussy furniture store as more natural now. Just because I melt at anyones hand on my knee, doesn't mean it's a Thing with anyone else! But Wayne is not forthcoming with his thoughts on his experience, and so I am going to imagine that I had nothing to lose (instead of everything) and that I was in his general circumstances and was fortunate enough to be chosen for a Make Better! If I were a single guy living in a fifth floor walk-up apartment in the city- Life would be a challenge. Wayne referred to his college days, so I suppose I would be hard-pressed even to afford his shoebox of an apartment. I would probably moonlight at a restaurant job and be too tired to date. As well as clueless about gay etiquette. So I might be almost as depressed as Wayne. (I would be thrilled to have my mother though.)
So I am imagining that I am in Waynes shoes, waiting for the Fab Five to arrive...
I imagine I would know when to expect them because I would be taking the time off from work! And I have read that they request the MB not to shave. That would require some notice in my case. Of course I would be pacing that day; I would probably end up sitting on the fire escape looking at clouds to calm down.
When my Heros arrived I would have been as shellshocked as Wayne initially. But I also could not have hidden my fascination and happiness. I would drink their energy into the desert of my soul. It would have been beyond my ability not to smile like an idiot from the moment they arrived. And I would have been awash in foolish tears from the moment they announced their departure.
And yes the first part of the process would prove embarrassing for me. Unlike Wayne I do not enjoy wrestling and mainstream comics, but I do have embarrassing collections besides Trek. Remember Sailor Moon and Tuxedo and Friends? Anyway! And I am overloaded with Tupperware!
I imagine even in the little apartment I would find someplace to stash my collectibles. Thom would hoot!
But in the fussy furniture store, I am sure I would have balked at a White Couch! I would have asked if it came in a natural color at the very least. What is the use of a sexy mirrored wall behind a fussy white couch. Better a less expensive brown leather couch that is easy to maintain. Why would anyone want a couch that a guest would be petrified to sit on with a cup of tea or dusty jeans! Control issues?!
If Ted took me to a restaurant it would not matter what we ordered. The food would be as dust in my mouth as all my senses would be focused on one Ted Allen of the suave manners and sparkling blue eyes. I would be soaking up every moment of our time together and determined to hold up my end of the conversation. I would not hope to surprise a laugh out of him, but I think I could be subtle enough to win a smile or two. That would be all the dessert I wanted.
Bloomingdales is not my thing and so I would ask if Carson would show me some cool re-sale shops or someplace like Diesel. More than that I would hope that we could stop for a drink and talk. I would be so interested in his Opinions! At one time I was secretly afraid that Carson would not have very much to say that did not concern Style and Gossip and a very narrow slice of upper-middle-class Lifestyle. Now I am convinced that he has Worldview and should have his own Talkshow. He is easily in Oprah's and Ellen's league and that's just to Start! And so beautiful as well..
I would much enjoy rollerblading with Kyan, but I'd ride bicycles if he'd prefer. I would enjoy having nice products and be flattered that he'd let me snuggle a bit on the couch. I could not begin to even feign Wayne's nonchalance at being in a robe thigh to thigh with Kyan, damn the cameras.. I do know that I would be respectful, but with all the guys I would when near ask to touch them. Just on the cheek or collarbone or hand. And to hug them to memorize their scent.
But it would be Jai's help that I would most need to successfully date. Gay etiquette is probably second nature to him but it is a mystery to me. If I were single I would have no clue how to act so as to not give a false impression. I don't think I would react much better than a straight man for example if total strangers thought they could just kiss me hello.. That sort of thing. I also could use some advice as to what was acceptable on a first date, and embarrassing enough, advice on condoms and STD's and all the stuff single guys have to worry about.
So who would I choose to ask on a date? After spending three days with Five Gorgeous Guys, I would probably be ready just to hijack some guy on the street. Seriously, the problem would be my date would have to agree to be on TV, and I can't imagine myself being attracted to any man who would tend to agree to that. For example, that man in Bloomingdales who Carson tried to flirt with couldn't get away from the cameras fast enough. Maybe I'd have to have a blind date like that DJ. Someone pleasant who enjoys dancing and mugging for the camera. Someone like Jai <sigh>.
Well, I'll tell you one thing- I wouldn't greet my date less than fully dressed! For me that would mean a linen shirt and jeans, a plain leather belt and shoes. No snakeskin boots or faux military stylish pants for me! And I would wear my small silver cross and chain that matches my watch. Color is for playing, I would be understated on a date I cared about making an impression on. And I would be nervous because this date would be seen all over the world! I don't think I could cope with the alcohol level of 'Gay Coolaid', so I would, being a fan of the Show, pull out my recipe for Pomegranate Spritzer! I would serve this with my small silver tray of soft coconut macaroons, because I love dessert before or with instead of after! I would talk to my date about our plans and ask him generally about himself. I'm sure with Jai's advice I could navigate a gay or mixed club and even enjoy it. The club might have a roofdeck with tables where we might end the televised date with a toast to the Fab 5!
And that is my more realistic version of my old fantasy as I would have to be desperate and single ever to agree to such an invasion of privacy. And yeah, brave. So cheers to you Wayne. I'm full of Opinions, but no one to throw stones!
notevayas
notevayas opined:
"From his one and two line posts so far, I'd say Wayne has as much to say here, as he did on the show. So much for the theory that he was edited unfairly.."
I wasn't aware that anyone had proposed such a theory. But then, I could have missed it.
"Wayne does not look the guys in the eyes very often at all! Even at the end of this 3- day intervention. And Now.. he has the Nerve to call himself a victim!"
As I remember, in his original submission, Wayne used the word, "victim(s)" as a collective term for ALL the MB men. He never said, "I am a victim," or "I was a victim," or "I've been victimized." Let's not take that original remark out of context and throw it back in the guy's face.
"And WHY did he NOT wear a shirt to Greet his guests, or shave for them. Did he mix them drinks and was that edited, or did he just show off his material acquisitions? I would ask Wayne, but he's probably too Victimised to answer."
Have you never had guests arrive before you were ready for them? Remember, these are close friends. They've most probably seen Wayne in his casual mode many times before. Besides, they all were craning their necks the moment they came through the door, had curious eyes for everything and were really impressed by the fantastic job Thom had done. While the editor did not choose to show Wayne mixing the drinks, we did see the final preparation of the food. The glasses did appear in the guests' hands and I don't think they just materialized out of thin air. And as for "..being too Victimized to answer," I'm beginning to believe that, just perhaps, YOU are beginning to victimize him.
""I much preferred the big woman who sang with a smile for the audience. I imagine that she has/had insecurities about her size, but she looked more fun to hang out with than Mr. Fussywuss!"
Yes, she would be fun to have around. But calling Wayne,"Mr. Fussywuss." Thud! Another nail of victimization is driven through his heart. Sic'm, Tiger!
"And I also blame him for there being so few posts here. He alerted us to his presence before this thread was even available. Why? So he could communicate with us? Obviously not! Well I am not intimidated from posting my opinion."
Gosh! Do you really think he joined us in a Machiavellian attempt to intimidate us from expressing ourselves! Last week's episode had 4 pages approved and posted by its first Friday night. This week's episode has had 4 pages approved and posted by its first Friday night. Would you care to blame him for last week's showing too, or am I now victimizing you?
...so sez SA, shaking his head sadly and shuffling off into the sunset...
P.S. I agree, a white couch is a "stain-magnet."
"From his one and two line posts so far, I'd say Wayne has as much to say here, as he did on the show. So much for the theory that he was edited unfairly.."
I wasn't aware that anyone had proposed such a theory. But then, I could have missed it.
"Wayne does not look the guys in the eyes very often at all! Even at the end of this 3- day intervention. And Now.. he has the Nerve to call himself a victim!"
As I remember, in his original submission, Wayne used the word, "victim(s)" as a collective term for ALL the MB men. He never said, "I am a victim," or "I was a victim," or "I've been victimized." Let's not take that original remark out of context and throw it back in the guy's face.
"And WHY did he NOT wear a shirt to Greet his guests, or shave for them. Did he mix them drinks and was that edited, or did he just show off his material acquisitions? I would ask Wayne, but he's probably too Victimised to answer."
Have you never had guests arrive before you were ready for them? Remember, these are close friends. They've most probably seen Wayne in his casual mode many times before. Besides, they all were craning their necks the moment they came through the door, had curious eyes for everything and were really impressed by the fantastic job Thom had done. While the editor did not choose to show Wayne mixing the drinks, we did see the final preparation of the food. The glasses did appear in the guests' hands and I don't think they just materialized out of thin air. And as for "..being too Victimized to answer," I'm beginning to believe that, just perhaps, YOU are beginning to victimize him.
""I much preferred the big woman who sang with a smile for the audience. I imagine that she has/had insecurities about her size, but she looked more fun to hang out with than Mr. Fussywuss!"
Yes, she would be fun to have around. But calling Wayne,"Mr. Fussywuss." Thud! Another nail of victimization is driven through his heart. Sic'm, Tiger!
"And I also blame him for there being so few posts here. He alerted us to his presence before this thread was even available. Why? So he could communicate with us? Obviously not! Well I am not intimidated from posting my opinion."
Gosh! Do you really think he joined us in a Machiavellian attempt to intimidate us from expressing ourselves! Last week's episode had 4 pages approved and posted by its first Friday night. This week's episode has had 4 pages approved and posted by its first Friday night. Would you care to blame him for last week's showing too, or am I now victimizing you?
...so sez SA, shaking his head sadly and shuffling off into the sunset...
P.S. I agree, a white couch is a "stain-magnet."
Oh my, are you crazy? LOL. I thought this was a very good episode! 
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Wayne, you were so willing and brave! You let us see your quirks and foibles and it only made me cheer louder at your successes. The upscale furniture from Thom was gorgeous....and Thom even offered his own little grooming tip (get rid of the "mangina" chin hair). Wayne in the-great-sponge-search had me rolling on the floor. (Carson, I think you were the last person to have it.) In the loft, when Ted said "we should have given him a bong"...that was hysterical.
Back to Thom....I loved it when Wayne was shaking up the cocktail and it was like music to Thom's ears....me, too, Pumpkin. Off subject: one of my favorite lines from a movie...in Working Girl, Harrison Ford orders tequila when he meets Melanie Griffith at a party and says "I promised myself when we met we'd drink tequila". I've no idea why that popped into my head...(note to self: discuss with therapist).
LOL! I just grabbed up the cell phone at the commercial and said, TTB!!! He's outfitting Wayne's place with HIS furniture!!! AAAAAAAaaaaaah!! - She HAD to get on the computer IMMEDIATELY to see the pics! Do you blame her?
This was fun... (Wayne, hon, I hope you continue to uncleanch!)
And YEAH... Carson? Whaddidya do with that darn sponge? LOL!
Peace -- De
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Depoetic read up on my loss of cable situation and quickly called me on time to put her cell phone to her tv and let me listen in on the boys adventures. This, combined with the pics of the episode Bravo had already put up, gave me a basic look into the episode I could not see last night. It was funny because sometimes I would hear her bust out in the background which caused me to bust out laughing too.
So Depoetic, here's to you girl!
*raises a glass of apple juice (one glass, too much makes me tipsy)*
All my QE friends are so special, genuine and loving and you've more than proven that you are a right fit into the bunch.
Love ya, girl! A very happy and grateful TTB
**De bows, tips Panama Jack Fedora**
Oh, now, shucks... t'weren't nuttin'! Stop it now, you're making me BLUSH!
I couldn't imagine ThomsTeddyBear of the nearly 1,500 posts not getting to see a new episode! Or to NOT hear Thom's velvet voice?
Gee whiz - during the Thomless "Lawson" drought I had to race to transcribe a blurb of the boys from E! Entertainment television to keep her breathing! (Try finding THAT in the back boards! HA!!! NOW you know why I use the show threads!)
I do apologise for laughing out loud. I tried hiding my face in my pillow, but then I couldn't see the TV! (And THIS time, I couldn't take my eyes off of CARSON! )
**THUD**
(Sorry again, Wayne.)
(The again, you were THAT CLOSE to that breathtaking man - and had his arms around you... you probably understand EXACTLY why I'm reacting like this! )
Between that Thom pic from Pier 1 - and then this epi... I'm having a hard time maintaining my "I passionately love them all equally" stance! ANYWAY
My now VERY empty room echos so horribly, I hope I didn't drown out Thom's voice! (Blushing again.)
Once again - welcome always!
Peace and big hugs hon. If you don't have the cable back on, we'll have to do this again... let me know!
(Battery is charged! )
--De
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Stay away from the 'furniture drug'! Really, Depoetic.. you think the guys were completely comfortable with Wayne?? Look again at the body language with Thom and Wayne at the fussy furniture store- Thom puts his hand on Waynes knee a nanosecond then lifts it as if he felt Wayne tense. Wayne does not look the guys in the eyes very often at all! Even at the end of this 3- day intervention. And Now.. he has the Nerve to call himself a victim!
Gee, Notey? Snarky much?
Reference: The Davids, Scout staff and F5 in print interviews and early TV interviews refer to all guest stars as "victims."
Reference: Regis and Kelly, MSNBC Tech Summit, Ellen and countless QEFTSG episodes - the flat palm back hand wrist flip is a regular emphasis gesture of Thom's. Both hands flipped simultaneously. Thom talks with his hands. It wasn't a "reaction to" anything.
Perhaps you're doing your normal "attempt to bait" someone out into conversation. REGAURDLESS... Have an herbal tea hon. The guys were professional, comic and classy. They left him dizzy. It's sometimes REALLY hard to uncleanch. Besides - remember what I said about being around hotties back on John Z.? *I* wouldn't be able to maintain eye contact either!
PEACE. --De
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Hands down, the best line from last night that still has me guffawing even 12 hours later:
Wayne: Where's my cherry?
Ted: Well, I can't really answer that Wayne.
FOC-ROTFLMBO!
**De whispers to Celtic_Wench** I catch myself blushing everywhere I go remembering Carson's little "acts" on Wayne's bed! LOL!
"GREETINGS AND WELCOME TO THE BOARD" TO ALL NEWBIES!
Howdy, Danny!! Welcome to the forum from a fellow Texan! Hope you pull up a chair and stop by often! (I think you might have made Wayne blush! ) Any plans to wander around DFW in September? ...You know... "Just in case"?
Howdy, Ababykitty Greetings and welcome to the forum, hon! Aren't the Gentlemen Five just Fabulicious? I see you have several posts already. Hope you enjoy the insanity. Stop by often!
!Bienvenido! KenjiFinster (Oh, I'll have to go to the library and use the Spanish computer again for sure, now! ) Greetings and welcome to the forum! You're in Santiago? WHEW! Your friends shipped you THIS episode with Wayne ALREADY?? WOW! That's amazing! Your name made me reminisce... I once knew a lovely young man named Kenji when I was just 13... you know... back when dinosaurs roamed the earth... Greetings and welcome to the forum, hon. Hope you stop in often.
AH YES, ADDRESSING THE PEANUT GALLERY...
Greetings and welcome newbies.
Target_audience (**De muses... remembers Ted's "audience" discussion in Video epi... gay men? Single, urbane straight women? ...Teen and pre-teens? --Oh no, that's ACTUAL gross viewer base... ...Perhaps IMPLIED straight men...**)
I see Texangal got her head out of the pizza oven and has decided to join this chorus.
The two of you have obviously HEARD the term, "Jumped the shark" - but have forgotten it is a term for a desperate attempt by a series to rescue a show from sagging ratings.
Since QEFTSG has had nothing but CLIMBING ratings let's notate for you the fact that since the show began - the Fabulous Five, creators David C. and David M. and Bravo have heard nothing but a chorus of: "WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO QUEER EYE FOR THE QUEER GUY????"
Please consider they decided to meet the demands of their audience.
If I remember correctly, Thom mentioned it on "Ellen". Look near the end of "Kevin D.'s" thread at the transcription of the "Ellen" interview.
Next thing - it's gay pride month. ...But since you watch Bravo, you know that they did this in honor of that fact.
If your tolerance level can't handle more than five gay men on your screen at a time - have a latte and relax. The heteros will be back Tuesday.
mgoose and cyndimn Celf Centered? Boring? -- Come on kiddies, have a gay koolaid and relax. The staff deliberately searches for people they know really need a Fab 5 intervention. Wayne was LOCKED IN to his own little Wayne's World and needed confidence. He may be more tortoise than hare, but that's no reason to be snarky.
Welcome to the forum kiddos - we welcome all opinions, even when we don't share them. Hope you come share your love for the show with us often.
MGK? The rumor? That means Ky DOES read the boards... Your plot on H/T will be thwarted!
PEACE!! --De
Quote:Commission? That would mean I was solicited for employment... making this a Business Site! Lawd - don't do that to me!
Speaking of commercials.. your episode had a good mix. The Best One Ever was for Haagan Dazs. I Know that I'm going to be dreaming of strawberry fields forever tonight! I am addicted to fresh strawberries! They are the perfect blend of sweet/tart when they are fresh picked. If I were rich I'd commission poetry on strawberries!
Thou hast but to request - dear brother. Thou knowest (surely) thy wish could but be my command...
May I ask... Parameters for such a poem?
Peace PLEASE? --De
Quote:If I could only find a copy of "A Night At The Opera" on CD... cassette, or vinyl even! I have a combination unit sterio!
As I watched this episode, Bohemian Rhapsody kept playing in my mind. I wonder why? {{snicker}}
Quote:((((HUGS)))))
Anyway, it was painful for me to watch and the reason is that 10 years ago I was exactly where Wayne was.
"Is this the real life?
Is this just a fantasy?
Caught in a landslide -
No escape from reality..."
{ACK! Now you have ME singing it!}
Quote:"Scaramouche, scaramouche, will you do the Fandango"... **De applauds CW while her 3 Chows begin to sing along with her**
But now I go out. I talk to people I don't know. I've fixed up my house. I've adopted 3 dogs. I travel. I'm even going to Ireland by myself, thank you very much.
Quote:Snaps to Wayne - and for the friends helping push.
But heck, even I won't get up on a stage in front of people. So, I'm giving KUDOS to Wayne for having the guts to see he needed help and make that call. As one of the guys said in a previous episode, admitting you have a problem is the first step of recovery.
Quote:**De can't read anymore after this from shock then laughter!**
Gay Kool-aid? I just kept thinking about Jim Jones and Jonestown, Guyana. Okay, I have a very morbid mind.
Peace girl... thanks for the giggles and the song!--De
Wayne hon - if you've wandered around these threads, you've learned that I am (A) not entirely sane and (
Verbose beyond belief when avoiding a subject out of fear. I've avoided commenting ad nauseum about threads where other SG's have shown up... and the possibility that you really ARE the F5 "victim" du jour? ...Has me terrified.
So here I go - blithering on in detail (for TTB and others who missed it) about everything - but you. I'm saving you for last. Maybe by then I'll be brave. Peace hon!
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*De does a little dance** Carson put the Gentlemen Five in Dolce and Gabbana! (Yeah!)
Snaps to Carson for the couture - snaps to Kyan for the influence on the guys looks.
I loved Kyan's gleeful expressions so much - that I almost didn't pay attention to the outfits! The look in the apartment: Khaki colored background with dark blue random patterns on a stylish dress shirt, khaki cargo pants and dark brown shoes - then the spicy brown tank top and brown cargo pants with colorful accent colors to go bike riding in - the plush and cuddly purple monogramed robe - and then at the reveal, a strong gray "Freedom" T-shirt and jeans. All classic forms of male clothing - but simply a cut above anything one could classify as "normal!" I loved the style of his hair - and his warm relaxed nature. What a doll!
[Sorry Greg D.]
I love Ted in greens and blues. For this episode, Ted wore a sweet sage green, double pocketed dress shirt with dark, thin vertical stripes, well fitting blue jeans, and gray belt. Stylish as usual during the reveal, Ted wore a light shirt with dark verticle stripes, smokin' black unconstructed blazer, jeans and the classic black Van slip on shoes. (Gotta admit, I do love it when he's in a suit! Sigh!) I did miss the longer hair, though. (But those lapis lazuli blue eyes at the end of Hip Tip? **Swoon!**) [Sorry Barry.]
Thom (Oh, those lovely waves are back in full force, TTB!) I adored the white background and black to gradually lighter and lighter gray vertical striped dress shirt, wonderfully fitting blue jeans, gray suede sneakers and white belt. He was equally saucy-casual during the reveal in that lightly white/blue/pale yellow, plaid, double pocketed dress shirt, jeans and bright green belt. ...Then there was the Hip Tip... **swoon** (TTB... just face your monitor to your mirror... you'll get the idea!)
[Sorry Greg C.]
Jai. He cut those silken locks. His hair looked absolutely plush and soft! I just wanted to be like Kyan in the Richard M. epi and just rub it! LOL! I loved that he wore those stunning diamond studs to work this time! (C'mon Ky... you have pierced ears too!) I thought the pale blue dress shirt with the subtle white-lined checkered pattern and printed logo on the back was youthful and sharp! I liked the dark dress slacks with black slip-on shoes w/no socks. ...But the reveal was stunning. What on earth was that silver gray, ruffled, translucent tuxedo shirt made of? I loved it with the salmon pink and vertical striped tight legged pants! The thin black choaker was a very sharp accessory too! ...But then there was the Hip Tip. Is it my imagination - or did our skinny little Jai have a bit of a tummy? I just remember him on the stage of Taboo with Richard M. waving "bye" -- and how tiny he was...? Oh darlin. Be careful. Don't be like me and continue to "broaden your horizons...!"
[Still just "ours?"]
And now Carson. Pardon me while I stop for some iced tea! WHEW! Is it hot in here, or is it just HIM??? During one of the past reveals, Carson said the SG could open another button to keep up with the GF's cleavage. He was fairly 'open' himself, in a beautiful black shirt and three tiered 'charm' necklace. I thought to myself THEN, "C'mon Carson... you could do one more button too!"
Then here comes the Wayne H. episode.
Carson - in a spicy brown, translucent and vertically ribbed tuxedo shirt deeply unbuttoned, burgandy Rosary as necklace, white slim fit jeans with horizontal cuts across the knees, white belt and black strap flip flops. The hair? Flawless with the lowlights a showin'! (Oh, Carson, it really is a great look with the lowlights, hon!) Black leather banded watch on left wrist, leather straps, beaded bracelets and a charm bracelet all on the right wrist. Carson came dressed to kill - and slay me he did! Ummm... Wayne? Any words on why Carson wore pale orange strap flip flops during your fashion show instead of the black?
During the reveal - I loved the peachy pink slightly puckered dress shirt and pink Rosary as necklace with the sleek black slacks and black leather dress shoes. STUNNING (I also like the pink orchid he put on the bar! Lovely touch!) WHEW. Carson, Carson, Carson... WHEW. I need more iced tea!
[Sorry Marcos.]
Here's where I'm gonna have to disagree with Notevayas, though... poor, sweet Carson looked like a drowned rat during the Hip Tip. I just wanted to run over with a big plush towel and monogramed purple bathrobe....!
Ahem... this post is getting a bit long in the tooth... so I'll go now... you know... for the BBB!
Peace pets! --De
Verbose beyond belief when avoiding a subject out of fear. I've avoided commenting ad nauseum about threads where other SG's have shown up... and the possibility that you really ARE the F5 "victim" du jour? ...Has me terrified.So here I go - blithering on in detail (for TTB and others who missed it) about everything - but you. I'm saving you for last. Maybe by then I'll be brave. Peace hon!
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*De does a little dance** Carson put the Gentlemen Five in Dolce and Gabbana! (Yeah!)
Snaps to Carson for the couture - snaps to Kyan for the influence on the guys looks.
I loved Kyan's gleeful expressions so much - that I almost didn't pay attention to the outfits! The look in the apartment: Khaki colored background with dark blue random patterns on a stylish dress shirt, khaki cargo pants and dark brown shoes - then the spicy brown tank top and brown cargo pants with colorful accent colors to go bike riding in - the plush and cuddly purple monogramed robe - and then at the reveal, a strong gray "Freedom" T-shirt and jeans. All classic forms of male clothing - but simply a cut above anything one could classify as "normal!" I loved the style of his hair - and his warm relaxed nature. What a doll!
[Sorry Greg D.]
I love Ted in greens and blues. For this episode, Ted wore a sweet sage green, double pocketed dress shirt with dark, thin vertical stripes, well fitting blue jeans, and gray belt. Stylish as usual during the reveal, Ted wore a light shirt with dark verticle stripes, smokin' black unconstructed blazer, jeans and the classic black Van slip on shoes. (Gotta admit, I do love it when he's in a suit! Sigh!) I did miss the longer hair, though. (But those lapis lazuli blue eyes at the end of Hip Tip? **Swoon!**) [Sorry Barry.]
Thom (Oh, those lovely waves are back in full force, TTB!) I adored the white background and black to gradually lighter and lighter gray vertical striped dress shirt, wonderfully fitting blue jeans, gray suede sneakers and white belt. He was equally saucy-casual during the reveal in that lightly white/blue/pale yellow, plaid, double pocketed dress shirt, jeans and bright green belt. ...Then there was the Hip Tip... **swoon** (TTB... just face your monitor to your mirror... you'll get the idea!)
[Sorry Greg C.]
Jai. He cut those silken locks. His hair looked absolutely plush and soft! I just wanted to be like Kyan in the Richard M. epi and just rub it! LOL! I loved that he wore those stunning diamond studs to work this time! (C'mon Ky... you have pierced ears too!) I thought the pale blue dress shirt with the subtle white-lined checkered pattern and printed logo on the back was youthful and sharp! I liked the dark dress slacks with black slip-on shoes w/no socks. ...But the reveal was stunning. What on earth was that silver gray, ruffled, translucent tuxedo shirt made of? I loved it with the salmon pink and vertical striped tight legged pants! The thin black choaker was a very sharp accessory too! ...But then there was the Hip Tip. Is it my imagination - or did our skinny little Jai have a bit of a tummy? I just remember him on the stage of Taboo with Richard M. waving "bye" -- and how tiny he was...? Oh darlin. Be careful. Don't be like me and continue to "broaden your horizons...!"
[Still just "ours?"]
And now Carson. Pardon me while I stop for some iced tea! WHEW! Is it hot in here, or is it just HIM??? During one of the past reveals, Carson said the SG could open another button to keep up with the GF's cleavage. He was fairly 'open' himself, in a beautiful black shirt and three tiered 'charm' necklace. I thought to myself THEN, "C'mon Carson... you could do one more button too!"
Then here comes the Wayne H. episode.
Carson - in a spicy brown, translucent and vertically ribbed tuxedo shirt deeply unbuttoned, burgandy Rosary as necklace, white slim fit jeans with horizontal cuts across the knees, white belt and black strap flip flops. The hair? Flawless with the lowlights a showin'! (Oh, Carson, it really is a great look with the lowlights, hon!) Black leather banded watch on left wrist, leather straps, beaded bracelets and a charm bracelet all on the right wrist. Carson came dressed to kill - and slay me he did! Ummm... Wayne? Any words on why Carson wore pale orange strap flip flops during your fashion show instead of the black?
During the reveal - I loved the peachy pink slightly puckered dress shirt and pink Rosary as necklace with the sleek black slacks and black leather dress shoes. STUNNING (I also like the pink orchid he put on the bar! Lovely touch!) WHEW. Carson, Carson, Carson... WHEW. I need more iced tea!
[Sorry Marcos.]
Here's where I'm gonna have to disagree with Notevayas, though... poor, sweet Carson looked like a drowned rat during the Hip Tip. I just wanted to run over with a big plush towel and monogramed purple bathrobe....!
Ahem... this post is getting a bit long in the tooth... so I'll go now... you know... for the BBB!
Peace pets! --De
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