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FoodFanOne
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BRAVO GET OFF OF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND APOLIGIZE FOR YOUR MISTAKE. IT'S THAT EASY. TRUST ME.

REMEMBER, DOGS ARE NOT ACCESSORIES!

Dee




: : : ignore mode suspended : : :

My little fashion accessory, sitting demurely next to my keyboard and delicately licking her little canine paws, sniffs in elegant disgust at your screaming and inconsiderateness for others. She likes being a fashion accessory and is delighted when fashionistas fawn all over her.

: : : resuming ignore mode : : :
Ghost_of_Holster
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For the edible outfit challenge Tom Colicchia should be one of the judges. Or else get out the dogs again, and let them choose the winner. (WOOF!)

Instead of getting auf'ed, the loser is named by Heidi saying:
"Bite me."








Colicchia should be one of the edibles.

But I have to say I thought he treated Dave very shabbily. No Likee no more.

~GofH
swiss74
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I think it's a shame that Macy's is changing the name of Field's. Fields had so much more class than Macy's. Oh well.....homogenization for homogenous fashion




As a former Chicagoan and devotee of Field's, I will never forgive Macy's. Yes. Irrational, silly and I'll cry if I want to.

~GofH




I felt the same way when Dillards bought D H Holmes in New Orleans. sigh

Will they still have those fabulous Field's mints. Dayum thems good thangs!




OT: As another former Chicagoan, I'm sobbing uncontrollably here. I'd brave tornados to go to Field's. Even the art museum's premier collection of Picassos and Monets pales in comparison. Waaaah!





So many former/current Chicagoans! Let's plan a reunion party there to watch the finale! LOL

We'll meet at The Billy Goat. First beer on me!




I will try to fly in from Dallas to be there, I loved Fields and I am even saving a shopping bag with the Field's name on it.




We treasured their gift boxes. Gift contents came and went - but the boxes were reused for years!





YUP!!!
MissOtis
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For the edible outfit challenge Tom Colicchia should be one of the judges. Or else get out the dogs again, and let them choose the winner. (WOOF!)

Instead of getting auf'ed, the loser is named by Heidi saying:
"Bite me."








Colicchia should be one of the edibles.

But I have to say I thought he treated Dave very shabbily. No Likee no more.

~GofH




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How did he treat Dave shabbily?
khsr109
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BRAVO GET OFF OF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND APOLIGIZE FOR YOUR MISTAKE. IT'S THAT EASY. TRUST ME.

REMEMBER, DOGS ARE NOT ACCESSORIES!

Dee




: : : ignore mode suspended : : :

My little fashion accessory, sitting demurely next to my keyboard and delicately licking her little canine paws, sniffs in elegant disgust at your screaming and inconsiderateness for others. She likes being a fashion accessory and is delighted when fashionistas fawn all over her.

: : : resuming ignore mode : : :





Well, my little fashion accessory is a bulldog. A flatulant bulldog. She has expressed her pleasure at being my fashion accessory in a very strong way, strong being the operative word...goodness. I think I'll go mow the lawn now...
sfman
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Sorry SF, I'm the guilty party.
Didn't know peta opened a branch on this board.
A thousand apologies to all!



It's ok KellyAnne. It's not your fault.
Dee may not be the brightest bulb on the chandelear....but damn her bark is worse than her bite.
khsr109
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How many of us are addicted to both PR and TC? Lots, I bet. When will we get the challenge where they have to make an EDIBLE OUTFIT?

Angela would have a huge advantage: make the damn rosettes out of whipped cream. Her designs look like wedding cake already. Make a chiffon pie, or a red velvet cake. Vincent can do a fruit basket hat (a la Carmen Miranda). So far the only thing they've had that was close was Austin's "corn dress" in season 1. Delish! Reap what you sew. Eat what you sow.

No cookbooks allowed!!

For the edible outfit challenge Tom Colicchia should be one of the judges. Or else get out the dogs again, and let them choose the winner. (WOOF!)

Instead of getting auf'ed, the loser is named by Heidi saying:
"Bite me."









FDLMBRO!!!!
Mel2006
Dear Dee,

Let me help you on this one re: dogs. You and I are dog 'lovers.' There is a BIG difference between a canine lover and a liker.

What Dee is actually saying is that calling a dog an accessory might mean....getting a dog just for a "WOW AFFECT." And then after the affect is gone....like an accessory, one gets rid of it.... into a shelter. People run to puppy stores...where they get sick dogs from a puppy mill....via a broker....and FAKE AKC papers.

I totally understand, Dee, but BRAVO would never apologize for their words. They couldn't care less.

A dog is a beloved family member to so many of us, and we certainly understand how you're feeling. We just know better.
kelleyanne
I've been registering with rescues to adopt a bulldog. Haven't gotten any word yet. I think they are just too cute!
swiss74
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The State Street Carson Pirie Scott has undergone a wonderful renovation recently. (Chicago for those who don't know)




That's great, but will still miss Fields.
FoodFanOne
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How many of us are addicted to both PR and TC? Lots, I bet. When will we get the challenge where they have to make an EDIBLE OUTFIT?

Angela would have a huge advantage: make the damn rosettes out of whipped cream. Her designs look like wedding cake already. Make a chiffon pie, or a red velvet cake. Vincent can do a fruit basket hat (a la Carmen Miranda). So far the only thing they've had that was close was Austin's "corn dress" in season 1. Delish! Reap what you sew. Eat what you sow.

No cookbooks allowed!!

For the edible outfit challenge Tom Colicchia should be one of the judges. Or else get out the dogs again, and let them choose the winner. (WOOF!)

Instead of getting auf'ed, the loser is named by Heidi saying:
"Bite me."






And, of course all the dogs must be little fashion accessories so they can get their little noses right up into the food for an evaluation sniff. Woof! Er, yap yap yap.
khsr109
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Sorry SF, I'm the guilty party.
Didn't know peta opened a branch on this board.
A thousand apologies to all!



It's ok KellyAnne. It's not your fault.
Dee may not be the brightest bulb on the chandelear....but damn her bark is worse than her bite.





And it wasn't your fault, Kelleyanne. We've all been there done that the last couple of days. All we can do is pray that she gets ADD...
Ghost_of_Holster
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How did he treat Dave shabbily?




Well, Miss Otis I regret to say it's too long ago and I'm too hot and tired.
I'll just say he's no Tim Gunn....just my opinion after watching the series.
I hope he isn't coming back, but suspect he will.

~GofH
KariAna
I didn't like it either. I am not sure the show had any other

choice in the Kara Saun shoe matter. I felt her models

should have gone on the runway barefoot. Better than letting

her use the shoes.
MissOtis
Where is Dee? Has she been "auffed"?
kelleyanne
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The State Street Carson Pirie Scott has undergone a wonderful renovation recently. (Chicago for those who don't know)




That's great, but will still miss Fields.




Absolutely! State Street shopping will never be the same
Ghost_of_Holster
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The State Street Carson Pirie Scott has undergone a wonderful renovation recently. (Chicago for those who don't know)




That's great, but will still miss Fields.




Speaking of which, have all my fellow Chicagoans read the book "Devil in the White City" by Erik Larson.

You MUST.

~GofH
khsr109
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I've been registering with rescues to adopt a bulldog. Haven't gotten any word yet. I think they are just too cute!




I'm telling you, they are the funniest darned animals ever created. It's like having a comedy club at your house 24/7. Ours is 6 months old and around 41 lbs. She's like lifting a cement brick. We've had some sad things happen, and we got a puppy to keep us busy. She does that and how. I took her for a ride in our VW Beetle today and she looked like a buddha sitting there in the passenger seat. WARNING: bulldogs are people magnets. You're never lonely if you're walking a bullie! Good luck!
MissOtis
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How did he treat Dave shabbily?




Well, Miss Otis I regret to say it's too long ago and I'm too hot and tired.
I'll just say he's no Tim Gunn....just my opinion after watching the series.
I hope he isn't coming back, but suspect he will.

~GofH




No problem, Ghost. I just wondered. I was not happy when Dave was cut in deference to Tiffani.
khsr109
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Where is Dee? Has she been "auffed"?





If there's a God...
kelleyanne
She and Mel2006 are making out in after his sweet Dear Dee letter. LOL
FoodFanOne
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Where is Dee? Has she been "auffed"?




Kathy Griffin quotes sponsor Alka Seltzer: "Plop. plop, fizz fizz, oh, what a relief it is!"
khsr109
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She and Mel2006 are making out in after his sweet Dear Dee letter. LOL





omyheck. I didn't read it. I don't think I will. I can't take any more...
swiss74
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The State Street Carson Pirie Scott has undergone a wonderful renovation recently. (Chicago for those who don't know)




That's great, but will still miss Fields.




Absolutely! State Street shopping will never be the same




I remember when State Street shopping row was: Marshall Fields, Mandels and Carsons. Those days are long gone forever. What a shame...
kelleyanne
Thanks! My mom had a bullie. She too was hillarous!
sfman
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She and Mel2006 are making out in after his sweet Dear Dee letter. LOL



Someone needs to explain to Dee that it's ok to love your pet.....just not LOVE your pet.
Mel2006
Used to live in the same building as Jane--let's just say she and MIke had ALOT in common...quite sad actually...


Mel: I have a feeling Jane and [expletive deleted] had more in common ...and don't forget "SPOT......" their, um DOGGIE.

You should have someone look up that column--I'm sure it's archived!!

Mel: Of course: 1955

And maybe we can introduce Mel and Dee/NeedlessChatter--talk about alot in common LOL!!




Mel: <Sigh> Unfortunately, there are no more PM's allowed.
That is why you're so busy talking about Fields vs. Macy's?


Yes, I do agree with Dee's thinking, but don't worry...."carry on"...We can listen to you, and Dee and I can talk about canines. We will "Make It Work."
kelleyanne
Next May, I don't know exact date yet, there going to be a weekend "block party" surrounding State Stree shopping. Store will remain open all night, street dances with live music and dj's from local clubs. Supposed to be the Bash of the century.
swiss74
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Next May, I don't know exact date yet, there going to be a weekend "block party" surrounding State Stree shopping. Store will remain open all night, street dances with live music and dj's from local clubs. Supposed to be the Bash of the century.




Now that sounds like fun, will have to be there.
Legolass
Excellent book. I had no idea Chicago had so many murders per year back in those days. Was that America's first serial killer? More going on in that period than the World's Fair and the first Ferris wheel, that's for sure.
khsr109
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Thanks! My mom had a bullie. She too was hillarous!





How long did it live? We have had a St. Bernard, a Newfie, a cocker spaniel, a mastiff, and now the bulldog. The giant breeds just don't last long at all. I'm hoping our little bullie lasts longer than they did.
kelleyanne
She was 6 when she developed cancer and had to be put down. Mom raises Jack Russel terriers now.
Ghost_of_Holster
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How did he treat Dave shabbily?




Well, Miss Otis I regret to say it's too long ago and I'm too hot and tired.
I'll just say he's no Tim Gunn....just my opinion after watching the series.
I hope he isn't coming back, but suspect he will.

~GofH




No problem, Ghost. I just wondered. I was not happy when Dave was cut in deference to Tiffani.




agree completely!
khsr109
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She was 6 when she developed cancer and had to be put down. Mom raises Jack Russel terriers now.




OOOH! How sad! I'm sorry to hear that. (I have to pry this one out of her bed in the morning. She's so mellow. I can't imagine raising Jack Russells after this breed. Do they drive her crazy? LOL Active little devils! I hear the dog from Frasier died the other day--EW!!! SAD!
soblueyz
Angela deserves all the credit she got for the winning design.

YES Laura and Michael greatly improved the outfit (btw-I'm calling Michael to win the whole thing) and they deserve credit for the win as well

BUT if Angela had pulled a Vincent and refused to listen or collaborate, they wouldn't have won.

She was a true TEAM LEADER as well as a designer.
MAR12
Ahh Fields---GRRR I will never shop at Macy's. I agree--when you got a present with that elegant name printed on the box cover, you knew that it was going to be a special present. Plus, my family brought the original Marshall Fields with them in a covered wagon from the Alleghany Mountain region of Penn and New York. Our families were friends for the next couple of generations and my grandparents and great aunts all had special discount cards for shopping there. It was just a special connection--you know? And now --everything so alike in every store you go into. Where is the variety? We see these great designers on Project Runway---Where are they going to sell their designs. There are fewer and fewer mass marketing outlets for their clothing because only a few buyers are out there buying for fewer and fewer chain stores. Honestly--there should be more choices--not less! I know some of you live in huge metropolitan areas and have great boutiques and such to shop in--but those stores have a very hard time existing in even medium size markets. I am getting really tired of wearing the same outfits that everyone else I know has because there are so few choices of stores.
Ghost_of_Holster
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Ahh Fields---GRRR I will never shop at Macy's. I agree--when you got a present with that elegant name printed on the box cover, you knew that it was going to be a special present. Plus, my family brought the original Marshall Fields with them in a covered wagon from the Alleghany Mountain region of Penn and New York.





cool story.
swiss74
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Ahh Fields---GRRR I will never shop at Macy's. I agree--when you got a present with that elegant name printed on the box cover, you knew that it was going to be a special present. Plus, my family brought the original Marshall Fields with them in a covered wagon from the Alleghany Mountain region of Penn and New York. Our families were friends for the next couple of generations and my grandparents and great aunts all had special discount cards for shopping there. It was just a special connection--you know? And now --everything so alike in every store you go into. Where is the variety? We see these great designers on Project Runway---Where are they going to sell their designs. There are fewer and fewer mass marketing outlets for their clothing because only a few buyers are out there buying for fewer and fewer chain stores. Honestly--there should be more choices--not less! I know some of you live in huge metropolitan areas and have great boutiques and such to shop in--but those stores have a very hard time existing in even medium size markets. I am getting really tired of wearing the same outfits that everyone else I know has because there are so few choices of stores.




That is really interesting about the covered wagon. Yes I totally agree when you got a present inside a Fields box you knew it would be a treat. I totally agree it is very difficult to buy a garment and not see yourself coming and going because the number of big department stores are dwindling. When my mother and father first were married my mother put dad through school while working at Fields.

It is very sad to hear of Fields demise but it will live in our memories...
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Everyone keeps saying that Keith is a great designer. He only designed a few things since the start of the show, and by his own admission copied/traced other designers clothes for his submission portfolio. How does this make him a great designer. Very good taste..yes..agreed. But a great designer?





I have a feeling I am not expressing myself right. What I am trying to say is that I feel BRAVO did a terrible thing in what they did. Some people say, "well, this is just a TV show"....but it's not. This is a show with REAL people trying to advance their careers; not actors.

BRAVO, I feel, tried to exploit Keith for their own selfish reasons. Yes, Keith didn't follow the rules....but did they have to use him for TV ratings? That's all I meant.

As far as the one hour shower....That is one place where I am totally alone....where I can think....so I, too, spend time in a shower. Some have said in their blogs that they put showers on so no one hears them because they still have the mic on.

Whatever Keith did...he did. I just don't approve of what BRAVO did....or rather their choice as to what to do.

Tim mentioned it was Kane that told.

Mel




So exactly what was Bravo supposed to do? Ignore it? Let Keith have the books while no one else had 'em? Why do you think lawyers got involved. They did what was legally appropriate. Keith violated his contract. So the other designers don't sue they HAD to ask him to leave.
kelleyanne
Ofcourse they had to ask him to leave, and it wouldn't have been fair to the audience if they sent him packing and didn't tell what transpired. They would have gotten much more press if he just "disappeared". They didn't exploit him at all.
lisakaz
Oooo. It is what it is. TC moment.
BuddhaDog
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It reminded me of school. I would study and study some more. A person sat next to me in class had notes written all over their pants and hands. Was I the only one that noticed this? Nah......everyone did. Did ANYONE 'tattle"....of course not.






This is very different since the grades of the other class members wasn't affected by the cheater. In this case, it was a competition, so Keith's cheating affected the success of the other designers.

I don't understand the people who are defending Keith and chastising Kayne over this situation. Keith has shown in several episodes that he has no scruples. Telling Ivanka Trump that he designed 4 outfits for the dog when he didn't and that he refused to even make an outfit for the dog. He's just not a person with integrity. Jeffrey said he gets by on manipulation and charm. Alison said he chose her because she could sew and he couldn't. It's not like his personality impressed many of the designers. They were with him everyday unlike the viewers who only saw a limited amount of him. Auf wiedersehen, Keith. Don't let the door his your ass on the way out!!

On a lighter note, who loved Laura's description of Angela's style: .."the full tilt boogie Angela-quilted extravaganza of puff." Ah, she was killing me.
MissOtis
http://www.justjared.com/gossip/2006/08/an...recap/index.php

Here's a preview for next week's challenge! Each of the models choose a fashion icon for their designers to modernize and this is how everybody matched up (designer / fashion icon / model):

Angela / Audrey Hepburn / Clarissa
Michael / Pam Grier / Nazri
Robert / Jackie O / Danielle
Jeffrey / Madonna / Marilinda
Kayne / Marilyn Monroe / Amanda
Uli / Diana Ross / Lindsay
Vincent / Twiggy / Jia
Alison / Farrah Fawcett / Alexandra
Laura / Cher / Katie
Bradley / Katharine Hepburn / Camilla
carolinachick
I don't know if anyone else has discussed what I'm about to say. My puppy has had to have emergency surgery today or be put to sleep so I have had a VERY stressful day and haven't been able to read all the posts. BTW my puppy, a poodle named Lucky (ironic, eh?) is doing fine now.
For everyone who is supporting Keith, you REALLY need to listen to Tim's podcast. There is a whole backstory about Keith's ouster, including the fact that Keith's pattern for this challenge very closely mirrored some of the patterns in the contraband book. Also, the designers were told 2 times that they were not allowed to have those books (which were found UNDER his bed). He had internet printouts of patterns also on his bench in the workroom. So, he can claim he didn't use them all he wants, but even Tim has his doubts. There is even more. You need to listen. It is truly amazing and I have to wonder if he is emotionally disturbed or schizophrenic. Please be aware that I am not being sarcastic or trying to be funny. His behavior was so erratic and I have wondered about his behavior in other episodes. When the rumor was going around that someone was doing drugs, I thought it would be him. I was a probation officer for 6 years and I worked with a Drug Treatment Court, that specialized in drug offenders. Trust me when I say his behavior fit in with an addict. But, I truly think he may have some sort of mental instability. Sad, because he obviously has some type of talent. I didn;t like him, but I wish him luck in all he does, provided he does it by the rules.

As a side note, I would like to address all the people who think this was blown out of proportion. If a person can decide which rules are silly and, therefore, s/he doesn't have to follow that rule, where does it end? What happens when you are the "victim"? We cannot pick and choose which rules we will follow. And don't forget, Keith did not have to go on the show. He knew what the rules were and agreed to abide by them. He also knew what the consequences would be. He made his choice, now he has to live with it all. BTW, all the designers knew about it for days before Tim did and they ALL were PISSED.

A few more things from Tim's podcast: it came across that the main reason Jeffrey and Alison didn't win was because the producers did not know WHO to give the win to. Also, according to Tim, when the runway show started, he was under the impression that they were going to surprise the contestants and NOONE was going to be sent home due to Keith. When Heidi annouced Bonnie was out, he says he was floored! Dirty pool, producers. Bad form.

Like I said, you REALLY need to listen to Tim. It is very interesting and very sad, quite frankly. The deal about Keith running from the van into the city, definitely some mental health issues.
MissOtis
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I don't know if anyone else has discussed what I'm about to say. My puppy has had to have emergency surgery today or be put to sleep so I have had a VERY stressful day and haven't been able to read all the posts. BTW my puppy, a poodle named Lucky (ironic, eh?) is doing fine now.





Glad your puppy is doing fine. I lost one of my dogs last month to pancreatic cancer. Dark days. Best wishes for full recovery to your pup.
lisakaz
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Ofcourse they had to ask him to leave, and it wouldn't have been fair to the audience if they sent him packing and didn't tell what transpired. They would have gotten much more press if he just "disappeared". They didn't exploit him at all.




I'm not sure I get how they exploited him. This week's ads were significant but they never say what the challenges are ahead of time. They did mention the auf'ing in the beginning and some interviews have mentioned it but there weren't a lot of details. You're just referring to this week? I think it's unrealistic to think they'd not mention it coming this week. That would be poor and sooo many people would be like, what I missed it, how come you didn't say it was this week???

I think they would be dissed if they promoted and dissed by others if they didn't. I expected they would play it up this week. You have to build in a reason to watch. Isn't that the point? They didn't tell Keith to break the rules. I think your expectations could be unrealistic. Are they really supposed to say nothing and have it entirely off camera? Wouldn't a slew of people complain and assert that the production was hiding something? They documented what happened. That's what people wanted to know.
love2paint
As a current Chicagoan, I HATE that the name will be changing. I won't be shopping at Macy's.... there's no cachet to that name at all.
FoodFanOne
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Everyone keeps saying that Keith is a great designer. He only designed a few things since the start of the show, and by his own admission copied/traced other designers clothes for his submission portfolio. How does this make him a great designer. Very good taste..yes..agreed. But a great designer?





I have a feeling I am not expressing myself right. What I am trying to say is that I feel BRAVO did a terrible thing in what they did. Some people say, "well, this is just a TV show"....but it's not. This is a show with REAL people trying to advance their careers; not actors.

BRAVO, I feel, tried to exploit Keith for their own selfish reasons. Yes, Keith didn't follow the rules....but did they have to use him for TV ratings? That's all I meant.

As far as the one hour shower....That is one place where I am totally alone....where I can think....so I, too, spend time in a shower. Some have said in their blogs that they put showers on so no one hears them because they still have the mic on.

Whatever Keith did...he did. I just don't approve of what BRAVO did....or rather their choice as to what to do.

Tim mentioned it was Kane that told.

Mel




So exactly what was Bravo supposed to do? Ignore it? Let Keith have the books while no one else had 'em? Why do you think lawyers got involved. They did what was legally appropriate. Keith violated his contract. So the other designers don't sue they HAD to ask him to leave.




Yes, they did what was legally appropriate. But, they also hyped the bejeebers out of the episode containing the boot-off, and I think that the complaint here is that there was no reason to grind Keith into the dust that way. Of course, I don't agree with that. Bravo had a blockbuster development with a cheating scandal so serious that it required immediate dismissal. It is utterly forseeable that they would hype the living daylights out of it, and that Heidi would push the "naughty thing" really hard on the talk shows (she is, don't forget, the co-owner of the show and one hell of a businesswoman).

Anybody who thinks he or she can cheat on the show and not have the whole world know about the disgrace is just plain stupid.

Last week we were all guessing who would get the boot and hoping that it was Keith who would get stomped. Now that he has been, we're all having an attack of conscience for having taken joy in his public downfall? Please, people, we're just all being human.

Do I have much sympathy for Keith? Not after seeing his exit interview, where he was still blocking the impact of his actions and muttering about scapegoats. I do feel that the entire rest of his life will be spent facing this down, and that opportunities for him will evaporate or just be diverted elsewhere without him ever even knowing about it. It is very sad, but life after TV can be extraordinarily cruel. What he lacked in character before, he now will have to build up the hard way. This boy is going to get some really searing lessons in humility and honesty. Pray that he comes out stronger from it.
love2paint
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Furthermore, no one on this board has posted any sane reason why Bravo shouldn't apologize.






cuz they don't wanna
khsr109
Glad to hear your little puppy is doing well. Two years ago we had to put down an elderly cocker spaniel and a mastiff--too young!! It was very hard on us, so I can imagine how stressful this has been. Hang in there!
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