RitaG
August 10, 2006 - 04:54 AM
I think the men on the show are egotists except for Michael. Kayne is okay too but the rest of them think a whole lot more of themselves than they should IMHO>
khsr109
August 10, 2006 - 04:56 AM
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The judges were absolutely on point with this challenge...I couldn't agree more with their "winning" choice. Michael was indeed perfect...it was completely Pam Grier...not to mention the fact that its execution was amazing! I also want to say...I thought Jeffrey's was excellent, I could totally see Madonna wearing that! Laura's Katherine Hepburn was awesome too...in fact, most of the designers did amazing work on this challenge...except the bottom 3, of course. Although, Vincent's outfit was nothing like what Twiggy would wear, I still found it intrigueing...In addition, having the models pick the designers and the icon was a nice little change up...I really enjoyed it! Fabulous episode!
* is anyone else have trouble with this website? my voting points aren't registering and the rate the runway chioces are limited when i try to vote for them...any answers? this is the second week in a row...
I'm having problems, too. The posts I read don't register as read...so the list just gets bigger and bigger. I"m sure I"ve missed stuff, but I"m not going through every message every time I log on...DANG.
CantBoilWater
August 10, 2006 - 05:02 AM
Like most of you, I was cheering when Michael won last night. I have liked everything he's made--starting with the coffee filter dress. I'm also glad we had a chance to see more of him last night.
I did think Angela rose to the occasion . . . but (yes, I guess I'm being stubborn), I'm still having a difficult time getting over how she skated through several of the challenges. I would have kicked her off for that ugly, ugly Jubliee Jumbles outfit. Heck, I would have kicked her off just for the story she made up to go along with it! And I think Laura and Michael completely saved her (from herself) in last week's challenge. Didn't she want to put rosettes along the side seam of the pants?
Robert? He was one of my favorites early on, and I still like his personality. I'm just wondering what happened to the guy who made that adorable outfit (with the bows in the back) in the first episode. I also loved his Chanel-inspired outfit in the dog challenge (put a jacket with it and it could have been his Jackie O outfit . . . didn't he even say the skirt fabric was a mixture of Jackie O and Barbie?). But what's up with the last two weeks?
I don't like most of Jeffrey's outfits and I really hated the feminazi reference a few weeks ago . . . but he does make me laugh. Now that Keith and Bradley are gone, Jeffrey seems to be the only one with the potential for making humorous (if biting) comments. I laughed at the quack, quack, quack, just as I laughed several episodes ago when Keith referred to Laura as "Bad Mommy".
And poor Bradley. His outfit was horrible, but he's so cute. Maybe they could keep him around to make his weird (but endearing) comments about the show.
swiss74
August 10, 2006 - 05:07 AM
Not sure this is correct. I remember seeing a TV special on Edith Head, and evidently she assumed that she would be designing for Hepburn because she did "all" the stars, but never was asked and was always pissed about being shunned. Don't remember the name of the designer who created Audrey's look, though.
Remember a totally different scenario than what you state. Not that important really, the point was that Audrey Hepburn would never have worn a plunging neckline and that kind of material, let alone granny flowers around the hem.
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August 10, 2006 - 05:13 AM
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Her designs are getting better, I'll give her that. If I didn't have to look at her or listen to her I'd like her a little bit more. But I don't know how long her stretch of creating actual wearable clothes for people who don't dress like her will last.
Okay, this is the attitude I don't understand. What the hay has she said or done that makes you feel that way? All she's done is stand up to that crummy Vincent and nutso Jeffrey. I guess some people don't like strong women who stand up for themselves. That's your prerogative, I suppose. If you didn't have to look at her? Holy crap. She's a very attractive woman, but even if you don't like her, what a cheap and nasty thing to say. But I guess that's your prerogative too.
I have to say I agree with you on Angela. Her first designs were bad + Vincent sandbagged her badly. When he was teamed with Angela he started screaming how she was backstabbing him, the judges sort of bought it, because they almost booted HER from the show for Vincent's design.
The next time she teamed up she treated her people with respect. Even Laura said that she was a good team leader.
Vincent however, made faces at Robert and did exactly the things he accused Angela of doing!
I do not think Vincent is amusing I think he is a snake.
Angela has gotten better and better. I hope she doesn't backslide.
khsr109
August 10, 2006 - 05:29 AM
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I think Angela is going to be this season's Kara. In the beginning, we're wondering why she's even in the competition. But then she wows us!
I also like her because she lives off the grid and has that hippie side to her.
KaraSaun always knew what she was doing and was a skilled designer, making money at it before PR. Angela hasn't got a clue.
brillke
August 10, 2006 - 05:30 AM
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Like most of you, I was cheering when Michael won last night. I have liked everything he's made--starting with the coffee filter dress. I'm also glad we had a chance to see more of him last night.
I did think Angela rose to the occasion . . . but (yes, I guess I'm being stubborn), I'm still having a difficult time getting over how she skated through several of the challenges. I would have kicked her off for that ugly, ugly Jubliee Jumbles outfit. Heck, I would have kicked her off just for the story she made up to go along with it! And I think Laura and Michael completely saved her (from herself) in last week's challenge. Didn't she want to put rosettes along the side seam of the pants?
Robert? He was one of my favorites early on, and I still like his personality. I'm just wondering what happened to the guy who made that adorable outfit (with the bows in the back) in the first episode. I also loved his Chanel-inspired outfit in the dog challenge (put a jacket with it and it could have been his Jackie O outfit . . . didn't he even say the skirt fabric was a mixture of Jackie O and Barbie?). But what's up with the last two weeks?
I don't like most of Jeffrey's outfits and I really hated the feminazi reference a few weeks ago . . . but he does make me laugh. Now that Keith and Bradley are gone, Jeffrey seems to be the only one with the potential for making humorous (if biting) comments. I laughed at the quack, quack, quack, just as I laughed several episodes ago when Keith referred to Laura as "Bad Mommy".
And poor Bradley. His outfit was horrible, but he's so cute. Maybe they could keep him around to make his weird (but endearing) comments about the show.
Tims podcast was great this week. His comments about Bradley and Cher were so funny and so un-Timelike. Truely priceless. Every week he has nothing good to say about Vincent other then he respects the fact Vincent stands behind his designs. Tim just doesnt like Vincent at all. Check it out if you havent listened already.
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August 10, 2006 - 05:36 AM
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Am I the only person who thinks Angela's costume was nothing like Audrey Hepburn. That neckline reminded me of the [expletive deleted] vest.
It didn't say Audrey Hepburn to me, either. It was very pretty, though, IMHO. Her model needs to be careful to always stand up straight, even if she's not on the runway at the moment. That picture of her on Tim's Take makes her look like she has a pot gut which we all know she does NOT have.
I know. That belt wasn't at all flattering, for one. The skirt with the trim was fine but the top to me was all wrong. That didn't say alluring in an understated way. Audrey had such a classic flair; even as an older woman, she was sleek and tasteful. That dress didn't say sleek and tasteful like the photo at all.
Do you think maybe the designers really didn't know anything about Audrey Hepburn, Marilyn Monroe, Katherine Hepburn...did it sound to you like they were just going off the pictures they were given? B/W classic movies are AWSOME--even if you're not going to be on PR, people, they're worth watching!!
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August 10, 2006 - 06:28 AM
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What happened to Robert's beautiful aqua fabric he was going to use? Did I miss something?
I was wondering the same thing - he mentioned using a color because of all of his previous designs being called boring.
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August 10, 2006 - 06:35 AM
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Do you think maybe the designers really didn't know anything about Audrey Hepburn, Marilyn Monroe, Katherine Hepburn...did it sound to you like they were just going off the pictures they were given? B/W classic movies are AWSOME--even if you're not going to be on PR, people, they're worth watching!!
I thought Laura had Katherine Hepburn on target, the high waist and wrap top were updated. Audrey Hepburn was updated as was Marilyn Monroe. I thought, with the exception of Bradley, they knew who they were designing for. Michael of course was, as usual, perfect in his design.
Rosebud66
August 10, 2006 - 06:37 AM
Is anyone having touble with Tims Podcast? I still can't get past last week.
The "rate the runway" isn't working either.
cantsew
August 10, 2006 - 06:38 AM
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No!! ya think?
Even Michael? Just cuz he called his mom???
cantsew
August 10, 2006 - 06:41 AM
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Is anyone having touble with Tims Podcast? I still can't get past last week.
The "rate the runway" isn't working either.
I'm having the same problem.
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August 10, 2006 - 06:56 AM
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I agree with Jeffrey, if you use a machine and it breaks, fix it! Don't move to another machine and leave it to someone else to clean up your mess.
Oh that point, I agreed with Jeffrey, though I can't say for sure if that's what happened. Seemed so. And if so, Laura shouldn't tried to defend her. She had a point that Jeffrey was going overboard but it's kinda like "you break it, you buy it." It did seem to me that Angela was evading that point. Michael and Laura may have felt they need to balance out the room, esp. in light of her as their former leader. I can understand that. But if Angela messed up, they shouldn't defend that.
So.... Angela and Bradley are having a 'conversation' and Jeffery jumps in, getting all over Angela. Right? Then Laura tells Jeffery to look at himself before being such a jerk. So Jeffery (in his interview scene) complains that Laura was out of line because <<he wasn't talking to her>>
Ironic! Bit of the pot calling the kettle black!
jackiema
August 10, 2006 - 06:58 AM
Oh it was a good show!! I think the judges made the correct decision, Michael's outfit looks the BEST compare to all the others. =) Actually, i am wondering, are they keeping Vincent here for a reason? haha, because the clothes he makes looks funny! haha, so Wal-Mart! =)
Also, I really think Robert is a good person and I do not think his designs was that bad?? A lace top, skirt with a matching jacket. Is very Jackie-O to me. Robert's design is way better than Vincent's, but the judges just like to pick on him???? Well, but I agree that he chose the wrong fabrics though, but it does not make him the bottom 2.
****Robert, do well on the Next Challenge! don't give up k? =)
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August 10, 2006 - 07:10 AM
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you're dead on my friend. how do you design and not sketch? i mean, props for having that great of an imagination, but how would you get anything done in a team or collaboration without drawing someting for people to go off of?
The difference is though, Santino "went off" with a sense of humor about it and sort of self depreciating. Jeffrey really believes what he is saying, and his Madonna outfit reminded me of Bonnie's "I was afraid her boobs were going to fall out" first outfit plus an Angela bubble skirt.
True! I laugh every time Angela talks about how she "doesn't sketch". It's ridiculous.
Season 2 winner, Chloe, didn't sketch (reference to Tim Gunn's visit to her home in Houston prior to Fashion Week..."I don't do sketches"). It is possible for artists to work directly from their mind's-eye visions and aesthetic. It is actually what makes the sublime, well, sublime.
And, Angela did make a sketch for the INC challenge that she, Laura, and Michael were able to work from.
I'm not a great fan of Angela (there is something that just isn't quite right with her or her design aesthetic--I call it untrustworthy but pretty whacky as Laura ordained is just as accurate), but I do feel she is getting and got quite a bit of uncalled for censuring, contempt, and mockery from certain designers, especially Jeffrey. She may have asked for some of it from her fiasco with Vincent and the obsession she has with her granny-circle rosettes, but Vincent as so apparent is no easy cookie to work with either, and she did prove she could be tamed.
Jeffery apparently went off on her several times regarding the sewing machines, when by what the video footage on the website is showing a great deal of the problems came from Bradley or just by the fact that Parson's sewing machines have notoriously in the past been known to be beasts for even the most knowledgable designer's sewing skills.
(Aside--are they using a different sewing room this season or did Parson's get new machines? Does anyone know?)
When people on these boards write about the frightning, scary designer/contestants this season, all I can think of is how "bitterly" and "manically" frightning Jeffery is becoming and being portrayed. He says Santino is a good, close friend of his...well....the similarities are definitely showing through in personality and designs, as neither he nor Santino can/could take defeat and humility very well. Jeffery is definitely showing signs that he was angered and bothered that not only did he not win the INC challenge but that somehow Angela, a totally unworthy peon, did.
LisaSabatier
August 10, 2006 - 07:12 AM
Well, I totally screwed that up,
The difference is though, Santino "went off" with a sense of humor about it and sort of self depreciating. Jeffrey really believes what he is saying, and his Madonna outfit reminded me of Bonnie's "I was afraid her boobs were going to fall out" first outfit plus an Angela bubble skirt.
lisakaz
August 10, 2006 - 07:19 AM
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Alright, before I read all 263 posts I've got to say, anyone who still condemns Angela is simply biased and unable to change their mind. Her dress was wonderful tonight, rosettes and all! And Michael, WOW! He so deserved the win!
Bradley? What was the name of the bearded character on Scooby Doo (it is way beyond my time--I simply remember it as background noise when my kids were growing up) Scruffy? Spacey? Anyway. I don't think Bradley ever had the passion necessary to win. I'm not quite sure why he even wanted to be a contestant. Sorry Scruffy--seems like a nice guy but . . .
And when you begin to harp again on Angela's rosettes (as I know many of you will or have) what's with Vincent's slash pockets? That outfit shoulda been out right along with Bradley's--didn't look like anything Twiggy would have ever worn, except for the plaid and the length.
Loved Laura's Katherine Hepburn. Kayne's Marilyn was a bit tight across the back for my taste--it bunched above her bottom, but it was pure Marilyn.
I think the judges were right on tonight with every choice--the best, the good and the awful!
SLB _,,/
P.S. Loved the twist with the models picking the designers and the icons--as much as the model may have knows (or intuited) which designer would do an icon justice she also probably knew which icon she could "carry" on the runway.
Sorry but I hated the bottom. Looked like her [expletive deleted] vest. The skirt was cute. I didn't see how that was Audrey at all. I've seen Funny Face maybe too many times.
Cindy1692
August 10, 2006 - 07:19 AM
You wrote:
"simply adore this program and I love reading the posts. When it goes off of the air, I will have to enter rehab."
Amen, most of us on the board will have to!
"That being said, Michael's modernized outfit for Pam Grier was stunning. His ability to recognize the fact that the first look was too "pretty" was simply uncanny. It is about time he received some recognition."
Preshow, just from the previews, I had him, his model, and Pam Grier rated with the best synergy. Of course, I also thought Vincent+Twiggy would be good too! And then Vincent turns from Mad Hatter to Bad Bell-ringer and a very bad version of Alexander McQueen Fall 2006 goes down the runway. Heidi's Runway judging ensemble was far more Twiggy than Vincent's.
Angela I also erroneously thought would have a hard time with Audrey Hepburn. I was wrong. But I thought both Hepburns and Jackie O would be the most difficult to do because they are classic, timeless and their clothing didn't seek to reveal everything.
"Jeffrey's design for Madonna, especially paired with the "booties", looked like Tinkerbell (sp). All his model needed to complete the look was a cap with a feather on it."
My reaction was: You can't get out on the dance floor and Vogue in that. Looked way uncomfortable, like it would fall apart. Also will Jeffrey be our new villian? Laura was about ready to take him out back and beat him up! Angela may have "ruined" a machine, but who hasn't had trouble with an unfamiliar machine and those Parsons machines have rebelled every season. Michael defended Angela so maybe there was more going on behind Jeffrey's attack on Angela.
"For some unknown reason, I could actually see Cher in Bradley's design. The top may have looked like something out of Plan 9 From Outer Space, but I could see Cher prancing around it. I will really miss his pithy comments. "
My first reaction to that top was "old grocery store freezer bag" I thought Bradley would cut and shape it more and add some bling to it in Cher's style. And Bradley can't fit pants for Bonnie or Cher. Loved Heidi's comment that it looked like "an old Halloween costume, I could find at a mall", which is an insult to what my mall store has for a costume shop at Halloween.
I was not blown away by Kayne's Marilyn. Maybe it was the TV lighting on the fabric, but it made the models rear look weird, not big, a bit misshapened. Michael Kors(why, oh why the same t-shirt and blazer, MK?)was spot-on with his "a Goth Marilyn", which is actually more than a bit creepy.
Loved Uli's choice of fabric, but one can't do Diana Ross with $150.
Michael, Michael, Michael. The real gentleman and class act of the guys has finally gotten his first rightful victory and more than 3 seconds of screentime!
Laura nailed Katherine Hepburn, but it is, like Audrey, impossible to improve on perfection.
Looks like Angela is starting to hit her stride, Michael and Laura's influence in toning down the color palette and # of rosettes is evident with this challenge.
Alison did a good job with Farah Fawcett, who more iconic for that hair, really. And she wasn't even born yet, whereas Vincent and Jeffrey certainly lived in the 60's and 80's respectively.
Robert, oh dear! You are self-destructing to choose linen over that lovely blue. I thought for sure he was "auf", remembering Nick's suit disaster for Daniel last season. But bad fitting pants and old mall Halloween costume trump bad fabric choice and overall design this season.
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August 10, 2006 - 07:20 AM
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Like most of you, I was cheering when Michael won last night. I have liked everything he's made--starting with the coffee filter dress. I'm also glad we had a chance to see more of him last night.
I did think Angela rose to the occasion . . . but (yes, I guess I'm being stubborn), I'm still having a difficult time getting over how she skated through several of the challenges. I would have kicked her off for that ugly, ugly Jubliee Jumbles outfit. Heck, I would have kicked her off just for the story she made up to go along with it! And I think Laura and Michael completely saved her (from herself) in last week's challenge. Didn't she want to put rosettes along the side seam of the pants?
Robert? He was one of my favorites early on, and I still like his personality. I'm just wondering what happened to the guy who made that adorable outfit (with the bows in the back) in the first episode. I also loved his Chanel-inspired outfit in the dog challenge (put a jacket with it and it could have been his Jackie O outfit . . . didn't he even say the skirt fabric was a mixture of Jackie O and Barbie?). But what's up with the last two weeks?
I don't like most of Jeffrey's outfits and I really hated the feminazi reference a few weeks ago . . . but he does make me laugh. Now that Keith and Bradley are gone, Jeffrey seems to be the only one with the potential for making humorous (if biting) comments. I laughed at the quack, quack, quack, just as I laughed several episodes ago when Keith referred to Laura as "Bad Mommy".
And poor Bradley. His outfit was horrible, but he's so cute. Maybe they could keep him around to make his weird (but endearing) comments about the show.
Tims podcast was great this week. His comments about Bradley and Cher were so funny and so un-Timelike. Truely priceless. Every week he has nothing good to say about Vincent other then he respects the fact Vincent stands behind his designs. Tim just doesnt like Vincent at all. Check it out if you havent listened already.
brillke
YEAH MICHAEL!!!!
For some reason I cannot view any blogs, etc today and I would love to know what Tim said about Bradley and Cher. Personally I could not believe it when Bradley said he knew nothing about Cher -- hellooo, Cher has been wearing Bob Macke clothes/costumes for years. I could be wrong, of course, but I'm sure that at some time or another almost any designer wannabe would have seen Cher and her wild outfits. Bradley has done nothing but complain in every show that he was lost, can't do it, etc. Bye bye Bradley it was time for you to go.
I hope that we have seen the last of the team work - let the individual designers show their work - the good, the bad and the ugly!
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August 10, 2006 - 07:22 AM
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Laura is style and consistent, Kayne wears makeup and has had a face lift, Did anyone see his facial expression when she did not win. CANT STAND HIM HE IS A BACK STABBER
I'll take an alleged "back stabber" over a cheat like Keith any day of the week. Cheaters don't deserve people covering for them. Apparently, Jeffrey would have left if the show didn't kick Keith off. He woulda been right, too.
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August 10, 2006 - 07:27 AM
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there was definately a clear cut winner on this one. michael was the most modern, and most fit with his icon's image. i still think vincent is deranged.
I think the judges were spot on tonight -- correct on top 3, top 2, top 1, bottom 3, bottom 2, and bottom 1. It's about time Michael won, and he was outstanding tonight. Bradley's a nice guy, but, whether naturally or chemically, he is even spacier than Vincent. His look was Cher, meets Oz scarecrow/tinman, meets "space" cadet.
And Robert was completely boring again. Plus, as the judges said, Jackie O's look was always immaculate. I cannot imagine her in wrinkled linen that looked like it had never felt the heat of an iron.
I have a linen suit. It looks like that no matter what. I took it out of the closet after my mother was here (and I know she ironed it; she can't help herself) and it looked wrinked. I took it from the dry cleaner's and they ironed it and when I saw it at home, same thing. Here's the weird part. I had it in a suitcase and it was a mess and I put it in the shower. I swear it looks no worse now than either of those other 2 times.
That's LINEN. You live with the wrinkles or you wear something else.
Auf_Wiedersehen
August 10, 2006 - 07:30 AM
mindofman and indawar, you are both confused. There were two Karas from the previous two seasons, one was Kara Saun who took 2nd place in PR1 against Jay...and the other was Kara Jankins (or something like that) who had the South African accent but was white, she was known as just "Kara" though.
I'm pretty sure idnawar was comparing Angela to Kara (Jankins)...
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August 10, 2006 - 07:30 AM
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I picked Michael this week! WooHoo!!!
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August 10, 2006 - 07:34 AM
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Am I the only person who thinks Angela's costume was nothing like Audrey Hepburn. That neckline reminded me of the [expletive deleted] vest.
I totally agree, I do not ever remember seeing Audrey Hepburn in anything but very tailored. I can not imagine her in a fluffy material and as for a plunging neckline...yikes. Take a look at her old movies. It in no way reminded me of Audrey, except for the color.
I would have been better if she did a very triangular top similar to the pic but one that had little back and couple that with the same skirt, making it 3D, making with pearl or something looping across the back.
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August 10, 2006 - 07:36 AM
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Actually, she said "fleurchon". If you Google "fleurchon", you get one hit, and yes, it's to angelakeslar.com It's a completely made up word, since even the word "chon" doesn't exist in French. "Fleur" is French for "flower" but Angela is apparently just trying to jazz it up a little and is basically talking out her @$$.
The French word for "rosette" meaning "an ornamentation" is "chou" (which also happens to be the word for "cabbage"). Interesting enough, "granny" also translates to "chou" colloquially, so maybe we should starting calling her embellishments "chou chous". Or train wrecks. HEE!
Thank you! This is very informative...to which I'll add: the term "petite chou" or "little cabbage" is a French term of endearment. I've always wondered why, but if it is also used for grandmothers... Hey, Laura was spot on when she dubbed them "Granny Circles."
I logged off last night at 1:30 am, when posts slowed down. You guys must have been taking a break to brew some coffee!
What engages me so much about this show is that I used to fantasize about a career in fabric design. I think a lot of us can see ourselves on this show - and if we were, we'd be reading posts slicing and dicing US!
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August 10, 2006 - 07:36 AM
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I think that was a look at Marilyn's dress that she wore singing Happy Birthday to Pres. Kennedy. It was practically see through and I think this was his way of celebrating that.
Actually the birthday dress was up at auction recently and it is a true work of art! That thing had a huge amount of underpinning and coverage, but she still looked almost naked. It was superb.
As for Kaynes draping on the models rear, there was gathering, but the area of trouble was the transition from her lower back to the rear. As a lady who "has back", this is a common problem for me.
love2paint
August 10, 2006 - 07:38 AM
Did you all see the look that Diane VF (judge) gave Vincent as he was pontificating about who Twiggy "was"? She looked like she had just smelled something awful!
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August 10, 2006 - 07:38 AM
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Bradley drove me crazy, he had no clue about Cher!!! He also spends most of time chewing on his pen. I would like to know what he showed Tim to get on the show! I haven't seen anything impressive from him. He scared me.
....he's a fish out of water, a squid with no ocean, an eagle without a sky......not knowing who Cher is! He must have been hatched from a pod from another planet! (Gay or not).
When his model was trying to explain who she was and is today, all I could keep saying to myself, just tell him to think Bob Mackie for 2007, but that suggestion would have also been carried off by the jet planes obviously soaring over him.
Not know Cher......GEEZ.....Bradley what kind of fashion design do they have on your home planet?
Is he just too young or something? I truly was stunned he had never seen her Oscar costumes at least. Or that "Turn Back Time" video (yikes).
I mean if Michael knew Pam Grier, though....I dunno.
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August 10, 2006 - 07:40 AM
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mindofman and indawar, you are both confused. There were two Karas from the previous two seasons, one was Kara Saun who took 2nd place in PR1 against Jay...and the other was Kara Jankins (or something like that) who had the South African accent but was white, she was known as just "Kara" though.
I'm pretty sure idnawar was comparing Angela to Kara (Jankins)...
It's Kara Janx, there's a article about her at People.com today about her wrap dress and how it's selling like crazy. Nick's recap of last night is also there.
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August 10, 2006 - 07:44 AM
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And he was like a dog, who immediately came to heel.
That was a little scary.
For me there was some Twiggy in that dress. But from the 60's. Same with Bradley's design. Cher would have been thrilled to wear those dreadful white pants with the fringe in the "I Got You, Babe" days.
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August 10, 2006 - 07:46 AM
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Yeah me too! My husband doesn't even ask anymore he goes to my sons room to watch the Red Sox. The TV is mine!!!!
Lucky you! There were games on last night with both the Red Sox and the Yankees -- and DH is a Yankees fan from way back...
I had to watch on the little TV in my room. Still -- better than having to wait for a rerun!
Oh yeah -- I was rooting for Michael too and had the feeling that Bradley would be leaving, esp when I saw the outfit he put together - sort of...
This is why I own my remote. I saw the Yanks and PR last night. Now if I could figure out how to record one and watch the other it'd be better. I'm just lucky I can rewind the DVR and do slo-mo.
Auf_Wiedersehen
August 10, 2006 - 07:47 AM
Yeah, Bradley actually isn't gay. Awhile back on a spoiler post on livejournal for the beginning of this new PR season some girl posted a comment that she dated Bradley for a few months and that he's really an odd bean. I honestly can believe that Bradley has never followed up on Cher. I'm telling you, Phish (or some band like that) distracted him from all pop music back in the day, ha.
And I'm 20 and I can't really picture what Cher has been wearing in the past 10 years, all I vision is that green feather thing on her face from her "Life after Love" video...
He definetely should have done a glitzy theatrical type of hat though with some type of sequin criss cross halter, I know she's into that or the Native American look...
And also, Jeff and Michael are absolutely not gay. There were more gay guys last season, if anything this season has the least amount...
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August 10, 2006 - 07:50 AM
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Apparently not. He was on speaker and wasn't alone. Therefore it was out in the open. Nothing untoward was said. Hence, allowed.
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August 10, 2006 - 07:51 AM
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Do you think maybe the designers really didn't know anything about Audrey Hepburn, Marilyn Monroe, Katherine Hepburn...did it sound to you like they were just going off the pictures they were given? B/W classic movies are AWSOME--even if you're not going to be on PR, people, they're worth watching!!
I thought Laura had Katherine Hepburn on target, the high waist and wrap top were updated. Audrey Hepburn was updated as was Marilyn Monroe. I thought, with the exception of Bradley, they knew who they were designing for. Michael of course was, as usual, perfect in his design.
I agree about Laura's pants being on target, but that top didn't look Khepburnie to me...maybe you're right about the Mmonroe...I don't know. This won't be a popular thing to say, but I thought MM's taste in fashion was pretty bad. This dress I thought was pretty cool. MM always looked like she had a poochie tummy to me. Am I losing it?
MissOtis
August 10, 2006 - 07:55 AM
My problem with Kayne's dress is that MM would not have met Goth. But, the lines, particularly from the front, were perfect.
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August 10, 2006 - 07:56 AM
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Bradley drove me crazy, he had no clue about Cher!!! He also spends most of time chewing on his pen. I would like to know what he showed Tim to get on the show! I haven't seen anything impressive from him. He scared me.
....he's a fish out of water, a squid with no ocean, an eagle without a sky......not knowing who Cher is! He must have been hatched from a pod from another planet! (Gay or not).
When his model was trying to explain who she was and is today, all I could keep saying to myself, just tell him to think Bob Mackie for 2007, but that suggestion would have also been carried off by the jet planes obviously soaring over him.
Not know Cher......GEEZ.....Bradley what kind of fashion design do they have on your home planet?
Is he just too young or something? I truly was stunned he had never seen her Oscar costumes at least. Or that "Turn Back Time" video (yikes).
I mean if Michael knew Pam Grier, though....I dunno.
I just listened to Bradley's exit interview, and he might have just been upset that he'd been auf'd, but he came across as not quite with it. It reminded me of that T shirt that says: They say I have ADD, but they just don't understand. OH LOOK! A Chicken! How did he make it THIS far with that kind of focus and organization???
Auf_Wiedersehen
August 10, 2006 - 07:57 AM
Oh how cool, thanks. And it looks like Kara used her PR model and Andre's model for those kimono dresses, can't tell about the other two models though.
I really like the black dress with the green...
Michael's outfit last night is also posted up.
http://offtherack.people.com/#entry-11940195
whatasmartpuppy
August 10, 2006 - 07:57 AM
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MM always looked like she had a poochie tummy to me. Am I losing it?
Different period asthetic. Women were suppose to be soft and round.
khsr109
August 10, 2006 - 07:59 AM
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MM always looked like she had a poochie tummy to me. Am I losing it?
Different period asthetic. Women were suppose to be soft and round.
Well, that makes sense, because even in her Happy Birthday, Mr. President dress, she looked a bit soft and round, as you say. But GAD she was beautiful and obviously sexy.
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August 10, 2006 - 08:00 AM
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Am I the only person who thinks Angela's costume was nothing like Audrey Hepburn. That neckline reminded me of the [expletive deleted] vest.
It didn't say Audrey Hepburn to me, either. It was very pretty, though, IMHO. Her model needs to be careful to always stand up straight, even if she's not on the runway at the moment. That picture of her on Tim's Take makes her look like she has a pot gut which we all know she does NOT have.
I know. That belt wasn't at all flattering, for one. The skirt with the trim was fine but the top to me was all wrong. That didn't say alluring in an understated way. Audrey had such a classic flair; even as an older woman, she was sleek and tasteful. That dress didn't say sleek and tasteful like the photo at all.
Do you think maybe the designers really didn't know anything about Audrey Hepburn, Marilyn Monroe, Katherine Hepburn...did it sound to you like they were just going off the pictures they were given? B/W classic movies are AWSOME--even if you're not going to be on PR, people, they're worth watching!!
I do question what the heck Angela knew about Audrey, that's for sure. That neckline was RIDICULOUS! I didn't see Audrey at all. What, black = Audrey? Heck, I remember her as an older lady being interviewed by Baba Wawa and she had on a striped shirt and white slacks. Still Audrey, from the straight neck opening to the tailored look. Angela should be flogged for that, I don't care what Heidi said.
I think Kayne's outfit was designed like a Marilyn outfit with the color and fabric and some details different. It was like Marilyn Monroe Manson imo. Still Marilyn, um, both of 'em. I could see his Marilyn/Gwen Stefani idea, though. I think he knew his icon.
I bet Laura knew hers, too. Been around the block for that. Bradley just shocked me by not knowing Cher.
I don't think this was a setup; I think the models just paid attention to what everyone wore, probably because they saw others wearing outfits they really liked. I think the icon choice favored people going for different women. Nazri wasn't going to pick Katherine Hepburn for Michael, after all.
lisakaz
August 10, 2006 - 08:03 AM
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I agree with Jeffrey, if you use a machine and it breaks, fix it! Don't move to another machine and leave it to someone else to clean up your mess.
Oh that point, I agreed with Jeffrey, though I can't say for sure if that's what happened. Seemed so. And if so, Laura shouldn't tried to defend her. She had a point that Jeffrey was going overboard but it's kinda like "you break it, you buy it." It did seem to me that Angela was evading that point. Michael and Laura may have felt they need to balance out the room, esp. in light of her as their former leader. I can understand that. But if Angela messed up, they shouldn't defend that.
So.... Angela and Bradley are having a 'conversation' and Jeffery jumps in, getting all over Angela. Right? Then Laura tells Jeffery to look at himself before being such a jerk. So Jeffery (in his interview scene) complains that Laura was out of line because <<he wasn't talking to her>>
Ironic! Bit of the pot calling the kettle black!
Probably fair. I thought Bradley was using Jeffrey's machine because of the problem that went back to Angela, tho. I'll have to look again.
khsr109
August 10, 2006 - 08:04 AM
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My problem with Kayne's dress is that MM would not have met Goth. But, the lines, particularly from the front, were perfect.
Good point.
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August 10, 2006 - 08:04 AM
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I actually think they are waiting to see some brilliance from Vincent. He is or was a shining fashion light at one time. Has a resume as they say. I hope he sticks around for a while . . .
I'm afraid the judges are going to be kept waiting. Plus Bradley and Robert were worse than Vincent(barely)this week.
Also, were they able to research the icon before designing? (I'm a West Coaster who hasn't seen it yet - just couldn't wait! - LOL)
There was extensive printed info, probably about each "icon" on the back of their photo. Could Bradley read, because his model had to tell him everything?
From Bradley's comments, I don't think they got to research anything. I just had the feeling he has been secluded in a commune somewhere and just is quite up to speed...well maybe speed, but not real with it as far as celebraties are concerned!
And I don't think he knows the proper use of hair gel. "I tried some of the Tresemme stuff last night, man, and I think it made my hair look better." Bradley you aren't supposed to use the entire tube, or ingest it either!
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August 10, 2006 - 08:05 AM
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Wasn't going to post until it showed on the west coast, but I do enjoy reading before hand (think of me as the kid who has to open her presents early LOL!)
But I did a search on the fleurshans thing also, and got the same thing....not even a prompt for an alternate. Anybody else know something on this? Won't comment on the show till I see the Runway.
Pass me some punch please?
Jazzie
Ok, lets see if the board won't kick me off this time.
Angela may have meant florishes (however it is spelled)
Fleurchant is a French word that means "puff extravaganza of granny circle rosette thingies." Seriously, though (hahaha), Angela got the word wrong--pardon her French! What she evidently meant was FLEURON which really is French for "flower-shaped ornament." Bonsoir!
Angela mispronounced something? Shocker -- remember her questioning Tara about an "umpire" waist?
info4rosie
August 10, 2006 - 08:07 AM
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I LOVE that Michael won this challenge. His joy was wonderful to see. And the little dance he did when they mentioned the magazine ad he would be shooting with his model ................. GO MICHAEL !!!
I picked Michael this week! WooHoo!!!
FINALLY!!!!! Michael was long overdue a win!!! He's fantastic and so talented. His outfit was awesome last night and I loved what Michael Kors said- that Michael really thought about it. Michael is adorable and I knew from the first challenge that he's outstanding and I think the best designer there. He has demonstrated versatility, incredible artistry, and impeccable workmanship in his designs.
I can't help it but all of ULI's dresses look exactly the same to me- that's boring!
I like Robert but he's clearly no Michael.
I am pulling for Michael to win it all but the top three should be Michael, Laura, and Allison.
lisakaz
August 10, 2006 - 08:07 AM
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Did you all see the look that Diane VF (judge) gave Vincent as he was pontificating about who Twiggy "was"? She looked like she had just smelled something awful!
Did Diane work with Twiggy. I wondered about that. I forgot how Michael referred to Pam. I had no problem with Vincent's use of past tense because the pic was old so the iconic past had already been established. They weren't designing for 60 yr old Twiggy or somebody dead.
love2paint
August 10, 2006 - 08:18 AM
I agree that Vincent was talking about the model Twiggy, as opposed to the person, hence the past tense.
But, boy did he lay a stink bomb with DVF when he did!
whatasmartpuppy
August 10, 2006 - 08:25 AM
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I had no problem with Vincent's use of past tense because the pic was old so the iconic past had already been established. They weren't designing for 60 yr old Twiggy or somebody dead.
As an older woman myself, I think Diane took offense at a young'n thinking (whether he did or not) that someone from the 60's must be dead by now.
FoodFanOne
August 10, 2006 - 08:42 AM
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I had no problem with Vincent's use of past tense because the pic was old so the iconic past had already been established. They weren't designing for 60 yr old Twiggy or somebody dead.
As an older woman myself, I think Diane took offense at a young'n thinking (whether he did or not) that someone from the 60's must be dead by now.
Perhaps it hit a sensitive spot - maybe she is upset that some may think the same about her.
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