FoodFanOne
August 18, 2006 - 08:22 AM
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And to all the people who sent me personal posts about how dare you you east coast snobs who spend 10,00 on clothes who cares blah blah. You missed my point entirely. Or made it actually. I was re-plying to a post from someone who said Bravo was losing an ENTIRE demographic of purchasers because Alison left and how dare..blah blah . I said they were NOT losing any demographics with buying power over a silly TV show. And the amount spent on clothes was NOT the point. Some of you are so personally offended all the time it is amazing. Spending that much on clothes is not weird or rich or extravagant. Add up what you spend. It is a lot more then you think. People spend 1.000 on clothing items sometimes, people spend 10,000, people spend 100,000. If it is not you, fine, But people do. A 3-400 jacket, a suit for 200, some shoes you like for 100. It adds up. And it is not a 'rich' person thing. Kids everywhere are walking around in jeans from A&F that cost $150 and 200 sneakers and on sale at every mall in this country.
The arguments here have become kind of about socio/economic stuff in some way. Us versus THEM and the us's seem to be people incredibly sensitive to discussion to money and weight and class.
I know Gabe has ruffled some feathers, but she has some very good points and I'm going to concentrate on analyzing them (in several posts, so it doesn't get too long, here).
First up, this economic sensitivity issue. Gabe makes an excellent point. This show has really pushed our buttons this season about the haves and the have-nots because of the inclusion of a very wealthy contestant.
Further, the personal comments from many of us on this board disclose that most of us just don't have fancy stores near them nor a huge budget to indulge in the really good stuff very often or even at all. Many of us are penny-pinchers, sale hawks, and just trying to keep the budget from cracking. I personally struggle to make sure that the electricity isn't shut off and that I have oil in my tank in the winter so that I won't freeze to death. So, when we see Laura's wealth displayed on TV, it highlights our own situations a bit. Not that we begrudge her -- it is what it is. Great for her that her circumstances are very fortunate, and leave it at that.
And Gabe is right - clothing really does add up. I find myself in the position of having to completely re-outfit my son, who lost almost 100 pounds this past year, for going off to college. My goal is two weeks' worth of clothing and underwear, since I despair that he'll actually be able to do laundry every week when the exams and papers really hit. I have to get him new everyting - underwear, jeans, t-shirts, shirts, hoodies, warm weather and heavy winter jackets, etc. plus the annual gym shoes and waffle-stomper boots. GADS, it really does add up. I'm astounded. So THAT's where all my pennies are going. When you buy it a little here and a little there, you just don't see the impact as clearly. Plus, prices of some of this stuff has reallly skyrocketed. Two years ago, when I bought him underwear, it was 3 skivvies per $12/back. Now, these boxer briefs are (gulp) $18.50 per pair, and I consider myself very lucky if I can scoop them up at the discount store for $7.50 per pair. And, I'd like to send him off with just one nice outfit for good occasions - a navy blazer, nice white shirt, good slacks, and "church shoes." But, it's just not in the cards. Way too expensive. He probably doesn't need it, but my pride is hurt that I can't do that for him. Oh, yes, boys and girls, gasoline isn't the only thing that has quadrupled in cost recently.
So Gabe's comment that we all spend a lot more on clothes than we would think does not paint her as an insensitive jerk. She made a very real and honest observation that we may well be spending a LOT more than we think on clothes. Please let's read posts carefully before slamming the other guy, ok?
Also, let's please try not to get our feathers ruffled over this economic issue. I do enjoy commenting on where we shop, etc. but I get distressed to see others reading too much into these discussions. Most of us are adult enough to just enjoy the fashions on the show while knowing that we will never be able to afford them.
We are not trying to one-up each other here and are just trying to have a good and interesting dialog. Yes, having somebody like LegendaryFace just rudely and deliberately rub our noses in it is galling, but she is a minority of one on this board in that department. We can ignore her or gang up on her and get her dumped from the board if she becomes too obnoxious for us to stomach. But, look it up. She is a twit. The quintessential twit. Don't encourage her and maybe she and her hot air will just blow away to somewhere else.
gina2
August 18, 2006 - 08:22 AM
Meredith Viera was host on "millionaire" and "the view"
gandm
August 18, 2006 - 08:23 AM
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I doubt very seriously that PR would put him in the final three in fashion week. I can’t imagine any of those hideous designs being featured in New York.
Don't get me wrong...I think Vincent is a horrid designer...but there are clues that he might be there. Anyway, the producers could keep him in for the drama alone. And the final three would really be the final two (I really don't think he would even be a factor if he were in the final three).
MissOtis
August 18, 2006 - 08:29 AM
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hmmmmmmmm Meredith Viera and Martha Stewart don't come to mind when I think of an "every woman". "every woman" doesn't have their own tv shows, books etc. I think it would be awesome if it were their mothers(or maybe sisters)?
Heidi said, "For your next challenge you will design an outfit for the every day woman". That (combined with Angela's excitement and the tendency of the show to cross-promote) is what led to the speculation that "the every day woman" might be a woman we see every day on tv.
DeniSinn
August 18, 2006 - 08:30 AM
This season disappoints me. It is more about in fighting and nit picking than the two previous seasons. I am not wowed by the talent and we don't get insight into the struggles that each desginer is going through....The producers should take note that fighting on this show is less entertianing than on other shows as we are watching for other reasons than the spats.
Please don't do this to my favorite show. You have next season to redeem yourself, but if it keeps trending downhill like this I am sure Project Runway will be "auffed" my viewing schedule.
FoodFanOne
August 18, 2006 - 08:31 AM
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By the way. The whole 'Laura earth mother what a body 6 kids let her bitchy thing go that how moms are' thing? Laura is the mother TO six kids. She did not have 6. She only had 1 or 2. She is the younger wife of an older successful man-Peter Shelton and they are not ALL hers. She MARRIED very well. He is fabulous and his architectural firm Shelton/Mindel where he gave her a part time job, is one of the most succesful and amazing in the world. Absolutely world class. She dabbles in jewlery and now wants to dabble in fashion. Trust me-she totally knows what she is doing on the show with her arch, rude and at times rather vicious comments. She moves in a very rarified NYC and art world circle and knows EXACTLY what she is doing. Wearing a complete riding habit for a run over to Parsons??? ROFLMAO. Please. NOTHING she does is accidental. Women here, despite what people think, unless they are actually heading up to Claremont Stables to ride do NOT stride around the streets of Manhattan in their riding outfits. It would be considered quite odd but she is all about effect. Bringing her LV trunks to go 20 blocks away for a month or so. It is all very calculated on her part. WHO is taking care of 'her' kids while she is gone? Most probably do not even live at home and trust me, even when she is home she is not the one taking care of them.
This comment has really made me think. Gabe is onto something here. Laura does know exactly what she is doing. She is playing a mind game very much like Santino's. She constantly dresses professionally and that helps create an aura of competence. She is always impeccably groomed (even if you don't care for the pony-tail look) and turned out. She mentioned that she doesn't "go there" when it comes to dressing in sweatpants and jeans, yet she could well have afforded to dress down for this competition. She chose not to. She is intentionally projecting a powerful image all across TV-land and to the other contestants. She's doing it in a very subtle and classy manner, that's all. (Although I do feel that the rack 'o ribs look is perhaps a bad choice.)
She plays the game well. And in a manner that is calculated to get her point across without braggart comments that slap everybody in the face with it. Give her some props.
gina2
August 18, 2006 - 08:31 AM
valid point. but wouldn't they also react the same if they had no idea their mothers or sisters would be there? Like heathers reaction on hells kitchen?
MissOtis
August 18, 2006 - 08:33 AM
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I personally like Heidi. She cracks me up.
brillke
I adore Heidi. She reminds me of someone I knew years ago. I think she is very bright and very funny. Because I am a superficial person, I will say that I think she should stop curling her hair. She looks much better with it natural.
swiss74
August 18, 2006 - 08:36 AM
Just hit reply so I could post. Nothing directed at anyone in particular.
Wow, and they told me I was long winded yesterday, I think I have started a trend --- long posts.
Have a wonderful day everyone...enjoy
gina2
August 18, 2006 - 08:37 AM
bye swiss have a great day!!
legendaryface
August 18, 2006 - 08:40 AM
Don't worry Gandm. I'm willing to bet a pair of my Roberto Cavalli that he will not be in the final three.
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August 18, 2006 - 08:40 AM
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valid point. but wouldn't they also react the same if they had no idea their mothers or sisters would be there? Like heathers reaction on hells kitchen?
Yes. And I would rather see Angela's mother than Star Jones.
gandm
August 18, 2006 - 08:40 AM
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By the way. The whole 'Laura earth mother what a body 6 kids let her bitchy thing go that how moms are' thing? Laura is the mother TO six kids. She did not have 6. She only had 1 or 2. She is the younger wife of an older successful man-Peter Shelton and they are not ALL hers. She MARRIED very well. He is fabulous and his architectural firm Shelton/Mindel where he gave her a part time job, is one of the most succesful and amazing in the world. Absolutely world class. She dabbles in jewlery and now wants to dabble in fashion. Trust me-she totally knows what she is doing on the show with her arch, rude and at times rather vicious comments. She moves in a very rarified NYC and art world circle and knows EXACTLY what she is doing. Wearing a complete riding habit for a run over to Parsons??? ROFLMAO. Please. NOTHING she does is accidental. Women here, despite what people think, unless they are actually heading up to Claremont Stables to ride do NOT stride around the streets of Manhattan in their riding outfits. It would be considered quite odd but she is all about effect. Bringing her LV trunks to go 20 blocks away for a month or so. It is all very calculated on her part. WHO is taking care of 'her' kids while she is gone? Most probably do not even live at home and trust me, even when she is home she is not the one taking care of them.
This comment has really made me think. Gabe is onto something here. Laura does know exactly what she is doing. She is playing a mind game very much like Santino's. She constantly dresses professionally and that helps create an aura of competence. She is always impeccably groomed (even if you don't care for the pony-tail look) and turned out. She mentioned that she doesn't "go there" when it comes to dressing in sweatpants and jeans, yet she could well have afforded to dress down for this competition. She chose not to. She is intentionally projecting a powerful image all across TV-land and to the other contestants. She's doing it in a very subtle and classy manner, that's all. (Although I do feel that the rack 'o ribs look is perhaps a bad choice.)
I'm just curious as to how Gabe knows all of this about Laura?? Did Bravo mention that those 6 kids weren't all hers? I thought I remembered seeing several of them in the background during one of her interviews and they were pretty young...is she that recently married to this guy?
And - I give her tons of props! I think she's an extremely talented designer and I would love to see her in the final three. I would love to see an entire runway filled with Laura Bennett creations.
She plays the game well. And in a manner that is calculated to get her point across without braggart comments that slap everybody in the face with it. Give her some props.
gina2
August 18, 2006 - 08:41 AM
LOL
FoodFanOne
August 18, 2006 - 08:42 AM
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Upcoming challenge-peoples Moms? Uh-Uh. Let's not assume they all have Moms or talk to them or they are available to be dressed up and paraded down a runway looking fashionable Not happening anytime soon.
Good point. But the idea that the next challenge might be about "real-woman" sized bodies is intriguing.
Remember Nina Garcia's comment in the Road to Runway episode about Keith being a "tricky one"? This show is so highly edited that no comments gets in without a purpose. We have all been assuming that Heidi's comment about a "plus size" model was unfortunate, damn insensitive, etc. But think, nothing gets into this show without a purpose.
I'm guessing that Heidi intended to get everybody talking about normal sized women and larger sized women to get us a bit riled up right before hitting us with . . . a "normal" or plus size challenge to make us all thrilled. Before, we might have objected to seeing a parade of tubbies enter our fantasy world, but now we have been demanding it. Smart, eh?
And do you realy think for a moment that one model being so much larger than the others was an accident? Heidi, the executive producer and a model herself, would never permit that to happen without a reason.
She's smart like a fox.
gandm
August 18, 2006 - 08:44 AM
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Don't worry Gandm. I'm willing to bet a pair of my Roberto Cavalli that he will not be in the final three.
I really hope you're right but I'm not betting a single pair of shoes on it....too much of a shoe nut. Ok, maybe a pair of worn out Nikes that turned into gardening shoes and are ready for the trash bin.
gina2
August 18, 2006 - 08:45 AM
very true gandm, not once has Laura rubbed anybody's noses in the fact that she has money. She is just there to design and I think she make awfully elegant clothing!! That coat she made for the first challenge was beautiful! I give her full crdit, especially for standing up to the loudmouths ie Jeffrey!!
damselfly
August 18, 2006 - 08:45 AM
I value your thoughts as well as the thoughts of everyone here including Gabes and even Legendary's but there is a difference in how you say things like you just did and how they do. I don't always agree with everyone and definately love good banter. I am going to respond to the feeling that someone is waving their finger in my face with their opinion and then in the same breath say "Lighten up, it's only a TV show" I think most stuff on this board posted by the regulars is very light...I joined and got the joy of participating in the poetry jam Tuesday. Thats really the only reason I posted a response this morning. I in no way am taking away from Gabes right to speak her mind.
gandm
August 18, 2006 - 08:49 AM
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Upcoming challenge-peoples Moms? Uh-Uh. Let's not assume they all have Moms or talk to them or they are available to be dressed up and paraded down a runway looking fashionable Not happening anytime soon.
Good point. But the idea that the next challenge might be about "real-woman" sized bodies is intriguing.
I thought I read somewhere that Tim Gunn had said something along to the lines of 'Bravo heard what people had to say -- wanting a real body to design for -- and that we won't be disappointed'?? Maybe this is it! But I still wonder who it is that comes out on the runway with Heidi that makes everyone gasp....And, if they're designing for a regular sized person, does that mean all the models are given a short break this week and new -regular sized people step in as models for this week?
CacaoBear
August 18, 2006 - 08:51 AM
1) Is there anyone else out there who would PAY to see another "Design for the Designers" episode if Jeffrey were designing for Laura??
2) I wouldn't be at all surprised to discover that Kara Janx is designing some of Heidi's outfits for this season ...
3) Laura needs to shut her over-glossed lips and keep her Harry-Winston-bedecked nostrils out of everyone else's business!
4) I think Michael Kohr's comment about "Kayne can make a dress" referred to the construction of this one, even if it WAS ugly!!
5) Robert's dress sooo reminded me of Whoopi Goldberg as "Ula-Mae" in "Ghost"
6) Tim came right out and said (sometime last season) that prior performance IS considered, which is why Michael and Nina are judges every (almost) week. (I believe this was in the "Ask Tim" section) Also, remember when Zulema was auf'd ... Nina commented, "This is the third outfit we've seen with execution problems."
7) I think the designers may be judged against their capabilities ... not just their design. Let me see if I can explain what I'm thinking ... The judges have a high opinion of Kayne's and Allison's abilities and a low opinion of Vincent's. Assume they were expecting a "75" out of Kayne, a "50" out of Allison, and a "20" out of Vincent. What they got was a "40" out of Kayne, a "20" out of Allison, and a "10" out of vincent. Therefore, the "actual vs. expectation" scores would be: Kayne = 40/75 = 53%, Allison = 20/50 = 40%, Vincent = 10/20 = 50%. This would explain why Angela and Vincent remain on while Malan, Bonnie, and Allison are gone. Don't know if that plays a part, but, "Hey! I'm an accountant ... we like to quantify things!" LOL
8) I think Jeffrey's design was excellent ... but I think Michael sold his better in the Q&A. Also, whereas the painting of Jeffrey's certainly "made" the dress, I also think that the paint over newsprint looked somewhat muddy and unattractive.
9) I would really like to get a look at those judges scorecards!! I think they should make public the scores (or at least the scoring method?). There must be some numeric scoring, because Heidi always says, "Your scores have qualified you for the next round."
Thoughts?
Carole
August 18, 2006 - 08:51 AM
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I don't think it's anything wrong with a lady who makes business decisions when it comes to whom she spends her life with. I just happen to prefer men that can give me the "Four Cs." on my finger and around my neck.
Well I just hope he doesn't come with a mother like mine did!
gandm
August 18, 2006 - 08:54 AM
I also have to wonder how Bravo will define 'everyday woman.' That's difficult to pinpoint nowdays. Does that mean stay at home mom? career woman? career woman and mom? 20's? 30's? 40's? But it would make sense to define an 'everyday' woman as a real-sized woman -- that could apply to all ages and walks of life...
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August 18, 2006 - 08:56 AM
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hmmmmmmmm Meredith Viera and Martha Stewart don't come to mind when I think of an "every woman". "every woman" doesn't have their own tv shows, books etc. I think it would be awesome if it were their mothers(or maybe sisters)?
Heidi said, "For your next challenge you will design an outfit for the every day woman". That (combined with Angela's excitement and the tendency of the show to cross-promote) is what led to the speculation that "the every day woman" might be a woman we see every day on tv.
Hmmmm ... surely not Oprah?
gina2
August 18, 2006 - 08:58 AM
good point gandm and to cacao, like the references to accountants lol. As far as the comment about Laura not sticking her nose into other peoples business, if I recall correctly she was just reacting to Vincents and Jeffreys rudeness, which I'm sure all of us would have done. She didn't start it, she finished it.
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August 18, 2006 - 08:59 AM
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Uli's dress may not have had a halter top, but it was still, like all her other creations, an Empire waist dress, and I wonder whether she is able to make a natural waist or even a dipped-waist dress. I also thought her dress looked puffy and balloon-like, although it was very well made.
Yes! And, did you notice that the top didn't fit? It puckered oddly away from her chest.
gandm
August 18, 2006 - 08:59 AM
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Oh my heavens, NO!! I thought that challenge was awful! At least the jumpsuit that Kara, I think, had to wear. Didn't Santino design that? I would have rather walked the runway naked that wear that hideous jumpsuit! Then again, if Jeffery -- or any other designer for that matter - were to design for Laura, I'm sure Laura would be disappointed b/c they'd cover her rib cage up!! No offense, Laura, but that black dress with the V is a little disconcerting!
gina2
August 18, 2006 - 09:00 AM
Oprah? "every day woman"? I just can't see it. although it sure would get a buzz going!!
CacaoBear
August 18, 2006 - 09:02 AM
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Uli's dress may not have had a halter top, but it was still, like all her other creations, an Empire waist dress, and I wonder whether she is able to make a natural waist or even a dipped-waist dress. I also thought her dress looked puffy and balloon-like, although it was very well made.
Yes! And, did you notice that the top didn't fit? It puckered oddly away from her chest.
I was shocked that Uli didn't make the top 3 in this challange .. but I suspect the reason is the lack of flexibility of the skirt. It hung oddly and stuck out from the model like ... well, like the upside down ice cream cone that Tim described Kayne's first skirt. I think the skirt was beautiful, but if the model had tried to sit, she'd've flashed the room!!
Carole
August 18, 2006 - 09:03 AM
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This season disappoints me. It is more about in fighting and nit picking than the two previous seasons. I am not wowed by the talent and we don't get insight into the struggles that each desginer is going through....The producers should take note that fighting on this show is less entertianing than on other shows as we are watching for other reasons than the spats.
Please don't do this to my favorite show. You have next season to redeem yourself, but if it keeps trending downhill like this I am sure Project Runway will be "auffed" my viewing schedule.
It has been said several times that the technical abilities of the designers is much higher this season. Everyone left is assumed to know how to construct a garment and also to do it in two days or less. They probably have more time for fighting, or maybe the producers have picked up on the fact that the infighting gets more response on the boards. Plus I have just rewatched the first season's DVD and there was plenty of infighting: can anyone say "Wendy Pepper"?
gandm
August 18, 2006 - 09:03 AM
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good point gandm and to cacao, like the references to accountants lol. As far as the comment about Laura not sticking her nose into other peoples business, if I recall correctly she was just reacting to Vincents and Jeffreys rudeness, which I'm sure all of us would have done. She didn't start it, she finished it.
If you hear/read Tim's podcast, you will find that the argument was not just between Laura and Vincent... according to Tim there were several designers giving Vincent grief about his model not being able to walk .. and that the walk took so long. Of course, this was all edited to appear that Jia walked at a normal pace and that the conflict was based on a single outburst by Laura followed by the Harry Winston comment.
FoodFanOne
August 18, 2006 - 09:05 AM
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I value your thoughts as well as the thoughts of everyone here including Gabes and even Legendary's but there is a difference in how you say things like you just did and how they do. I don't always agree with everyone and definately love good banter. I am going to respond to the feeling that someone is waving their finger in my face with their opinion and then in the same breath say "Lighten up, it's only a TV show" I think most stuff on this board posted by the regulars is very light...I joined and got the joy of participating in the poetry jam Tuesday. Thats really the only reason I posted a response this morning. I in no way am taking away from Gabes right to speak her mind.
I know what you mean about people waving their finger in your face and then saying "lighten up, it's just a show." That does kind of frustrate me some times. But, even those who do that have some good points to make. Since we are all a little touchy these days, let's just concentrate on those and try to pass by any perceived attitude.
Except for LegendaryFace, of course. She and her goading, patronizing posturing can kiss my butt.
gina2
August 18, 2006 - 09:06 AM
"wendy pepper" ewwwwwwwww do we have to mention her? talk about a two faced witch lol
gina2
August 18, 2006 - 09:09 AM
whoa gandm I just said she was reacting to what others said, and about the walk down the runway of Vincents model, I could sure tell that she could hardly walk in it. that made me think for sure Vincent would be off this week.
love2paint
August 18, 2006 - 09:10 AM
I'd like to know the scoring system, too (a PP mentioned this a page or 2 back, sorry Ididn't get your name!)
I think it would be great if the scores were posted on the PR site.
I'm also curious as to the sequence of events when putting the show together. Silly me, I think I've always assumed that each episode is edited and put in the can after each challenge. But, I just realized that it's likely that they film the entire season, find the winner and use this info to select the snippets they include in each episode.
Thoughts?
Carole
August 18, 2006 - 09:11 AM
And do you realy think for a moment that one model being so much larger than the others was an accident? Heidi, the executive producer and a model herself, would never permit that to happen without a reason.
Then I hope they put the fashions on someone other than the current models. In my admittedly limited knowledge of the fashion world, I have only seen very thin models or plus sized models. Are there such things as "normal" models? By that I mean sized 8, 10, 12. Of course that's just normal to me. I am a petite and never see short models. I used to have to buy my clothes at the children's department of Saks before they made petite sizes. That shows how old I am. But it forced me to learn to sew my own clothes, and that was a very good thing.
gina2
August 18, 2006 - 09:11 AM
it seems like she has been all right so far today but you keep bringing up legends attitude from before. Can we let her be? After all we all have our opinions and point of views. =o)
FoodFanOne
August 18, 2006 - 09:15 AM
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I'm also curious as to the sequence of events when putting the show together. Silly me, I think I've always assumed that each episode is edited and put in the can after each challenge. But, I just realized that it's likely that they film the entire season, find the winner and use this info to select the snippets they include in each episode.
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I think you have hit the nail on the head, here. I do remember Tim's first pod cast saying something about how the first episode was being edited right up to the time of airing and that he hadn't even had a chance to see it before it showed.
My guess is that these episodes are being edited as a cohesive group to lay in a clue trail and highlight certain designers, comments, and reactions as a way of building the overall story and the suspense.
Carole
August 18, 2006 - 09:16 AM
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9) I would really like to get a look at those judges scorecards!! I think they should make public the scores (or at least the scoring method?). There must be some numeric scoring, because Heidi always says, "Your scores have qualified you for the next round."
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I have often wanted to get a look at the scorecards myself! I was wondering if, at the beginning with so many outfits being shown, they have tiny little pictures on them to remind them of which designer made what dress!
CacaoBear
August 18, 2006 - 09:20 AM
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good point gandm and to cacao, like the references to accountants lol. As far as the comment about Laura not sticking her nose into other peoples business, if I recall correctly she was just reacting to Vincents and Jeffreys rudeness, which I'm sure all of us would have done. She didn't start it, she finished it.
But .... I wasn't just thinking of the end of the show:
Remember Keith, trying to find an unoccupied sewing machine? "Bad Mommy"
Remember Kayne and Robert: Taste vs. Style comments (Doggie Episode)?
Remember Jeffrey and Angela regarding broken machines?
How 'bout questioning Kayne's taste? (And he, her character? Good for him!)
gina2
August 18, 2006 - 09:21 AM
very true. I guess she just gets tired of the bickering.
Jillkw
August 18, 2006 - 09:25 AM
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Meredith Viera was host on "millionaire" and "the view"
She is also taking Katie Couric's place on the NBC morning news show.
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August 18, 2006 - 09:25 AM
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I have often wanted to get a look at the scorecards myself! I was wondering if, at the beginning with so many outfits being shown, they have tiny little pictures on them to remind them of which designer made what dress!
Too embarrasing, perhaps? What if Michael Kors is writing "garbage" and "God help me" on his cards, or Nina Garcia is doodling on them? Or if Heidi is writing, "memo to self, make sure that ALL the models have shaved their legs" ?
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August 18, 2006 - 09:25 AM
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I have often wanted to get a look at the scorecards myself! I was wondering if, at the beginning with so many outfits being shown, they have tiny little pictures on them to remind them of which designer made what dress!
I think I saw a shot over one judge's shoulder that showed the card with the designers name on it .... I can't imagine that they go so far as to print up special cards each week with photos, but how 'bout a bunch of blank cards with space for the designers to fill in details (materials, inspiration, etc) and room for judge's scores & comments ...
Carole
August 18, 2006 - 09:26 AM
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I'm also curious as to the sequence of events when putting the show together. Silly me, I think I've always assumed that each episode is edited and put in the can after each challenge. But, I just realized that it's likely that they film the entire season, find the winner and use this info to select the snippets they include in each episode.
Thoughts?
I disagree with FF1 to a certain extent. They may recut and re-edit shortly before the season begins, but I am convinced that Tim's, Andy's, and Rucker's blogs are done immediately after the episode because they are so full of minute detail. Surely they would forget most of that by the end of the season! (I would forget it by the end of the next day.)
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August 18, 2006 - 09:29 AM
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Whatever Jeffrey, if only your mother had gotten that coat hanger a little further in, we could have given your slot to someone else.
That really is offensive.
I Absolutely Agree.
Anyone with decency should agree.
Completly unnecessary
I concur. The problem was not that she didn't shove high enough. The problem was that she didn't flush afterwards. Please get your facts straight before you post.
FoodFanOne
August 18, 2006 - 09:29 AM
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I'm also curious as to the sequence of events when putting the show together. Silly me, I think I've always assumed that each episode is edited and put in the can after each challenge. But, I just realized that it's likely that they film the entire season, find the winner and use this info to select the snippets they include in each episode.
Thoughts?
I disagree with FF1 to a certain extent. They may recut and re-edit shortly before the season begins, but I am convinced that Tim's, Andy's, and Rucker's blogs are done immediately after the episode because they are so full of minute detail. Surely they would forget most of that by the end of the season! (I would forget it by the end of the next day.)
Yes but if they are re-editing them a bit more as they go along to respond to viewer reaction, they'd be viewing hours and hours of tapes to find that one special moment and would have it all currently in their heads. Plus, I'm sure that they live and breathe the preparation of the show and could discuss it backwards in their sleep.
FoodFanOne
August 18, 2006 - 09:31 AM
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Whatever Jeffrey, if only your mother had gotten that coat hanger a little further in, we could have given your slot to someone else.
That really is offensive.
I Absolutely Agree.
Anyone with decency should agree.
Completly unnecessary
I concur. The problem was not that she didn't shove high enough. The problem was that she didn't flush afterwards. Please get your facts straight before you post.
Oh, geez, not again. I'm getting too old for this.
dcjewbear
August 18, 2006 - 09:32 AM
**It made me wish there was more of that "boring" shoptalk left in the episode instead of tacked on to the extras. Call me crazy, but it felt really genuine and fun. Kinda of like when Tom and Jerry actual teamed up and weren't trying to kill each other!!**
My problem here is that I hated those cartoons (almost as much as the ones made in Germany(Ah, Germany! A country known for their high standards in animation?). Without an enemy they were just kind of dull.
Now for something I noticed. Did anyone see how similiar Robert's dress this week was to what the wonderful, way too fabulous Jay made in the Innovation episode of the first season. It wasn't completely succesful either but Jay went on to win the whole thing. There was a lot of great fashion made by Jay after. Let's hope this signals the end of the second guessing that went on with Mr. Best last week.
legendaryface
August 18, 2006 - 09:38 AM
Thanks Gina I'm not always a [expletive deleted].
gina2
August 18, 2006 - 09:40 AM
tyvm Jill =o)
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