dcjewbear
August 19, 2006 - 12:08 PM
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Dupont Circle? Gay ghetto? Fruit loop? ROTF Sorry, I'm tired and wacky. Dupont Cicle is the gayest place in the world aside from The Castro in San Francisco. We just take it for granted that all people know that and, as you prove, that's just not true. So....now ya know
Actually some people may say that Provincetown, MA ranks right up there...
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Point taken. One could also say that about Fire Island.
Legolass
August 19, 2006 - 12:13 PM
I really didn't understand Michael Kors statement to Kayne that his garment stepped beyond the boundary of taste. Was he saying it was vulgar? I can understand him not liking it, but vulgar? I just don't get it.
To me, Vincent saying his garment turned him on & that he got off on, now that was vulgar.
damselfly
August 19, 2006 - 12:22 PM
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Vincent and Santino, to me, are not alike.
Santino never made anything I thought anyone could wear, even the Hilton outfit. I also think he did it on purpose. He wanted to be good TV and I guess he was if you like being insulted every week.
Vincent is hard headed, with out nearly as much talent as Santino. I think Santino can make wearable fashion, I am not so sure about Vincent.
It makes me wonder if one of the reasons he is out of the industry is because he would not listen to anyone. To stay alive in any business you have to produce what the buying public wants and let's face it, I can't think of anyone that would want anything we have seen him do. Not even the idea of what he has done.
Not to dive into last years show but the judges throughout the season were harping at him to change it up and do something different I can remember that he was saved once because he said to them "I'm trying to listen to you and take it into consideration" His final show wasn't comletely him but then for the judges to say so and use that against him bothered me. Besides the one outfit in his showed so stayed with me...that leather vest with the shirt with sleeves that blew up with air as she was...I thought it was great imagery...many of his clothes really "walked" well....But please don't everyone jump on me I'm not saying I like him or even thought he should have won. I hate him for his attitude about as much as I hate Jeffery for his...I am one who believes that attitude is almost everything...
Tazzy
August 19, 2006 - 12:23 PM
I've read back quite a few pages and haven't seen anyone post this, so I will. I read on a google newsgroup (alt.showbiz.gossip) this:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.showbiz...4a8f001b4a707ceIt's all just GOSSIP of course, but someone else posted that they noticed the eliminations were going boy girl, boy girl, and this DOES seem to be the pattern. There is absolutely no way that Alison should have gone home this week, Vincent's dress was a mess and thank you Laura for calling him on it.
Personally I am very tired of Fraulein Heidi and her little comments. All she ever says is "It looks expensive", or "It looks cheap, no?" If she says anything else, it sounds like it was written for her. I love Michael Kors and Nina Garcia, and am so glad they make themselves available for this show.
Can't wait for next week!
damselfly
August 19, 2006 - 12:27 PM
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I really didn't understand Michael Kors statement to Kayne that his garment stepped beyond the boundary of taste. Was he saying it was vulgar? I can understand him not liking it, but vulgar? I just don't get it.
To me, Vincent saying his garment turned him on & that he got off on, now that was vulgar.
Kayne's outfit while horrible and I am no Kayne fan the way he put the glitter on the top when it came out on the runway looked almost surreal. If he had eliminated all the other color and stuck with the sparkle and the white...and left his model's eyes alone...I could have seen him winning....shock I know
jolie_v
August 19, 2006 - 12:28 PM
AGREE!!
for Klum to say there was no innovation!!!!??? what on earth was she thinking? Alison's design was ALL innovation!! Kudos for Allison, I look forward to see her designs pop up in the higher-end retail stores!!!
Vincent has NOT made ONE acceptable design! he think's he is artsy... but, sorry - back to the drawingboard baby - and draw yourself out a different career! - as a firstgrade art teacher you'd be great!
gina2
August 19, 2006 - 12:28 PM
thanks dogabone, I just started watching during season 2. my bad!! thanks for the update. I did watch season 1 in repeats though, how could I have forgotten? lol
angelbrat
August 19, 2006 - 12:49 PM
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I had Vincent, Kayne and Alison in my bottom three.
I really didn't mind Kayne's that much.. was it gaudy? yes! But like Tim said in his podcast.. Vincent was making a big billboard.. and Angela was making a small billboard.. lol It was a good point.
Angela Vincent and Alison were in my bottom three. It doesn't really matter though because I have a feeling the judges would have passed Angela through like they did Kayne anyway at that point in the show.
Tim also mentioned how interesting Alison's design was on the mannequin vs how it didn't work on the model (unfortunately that's how the show is done... ie runway) and how hers reminded him of something some museum (? I think it was) had done like a paper project of fashion and it reminded him of that. To him that was art. (Vincent's wasn't) I think that's why we all reacted how we did.. we could at least see what she was trying to achieve.
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Something tells me that Project Runway may not be for Vincent. He told me that he does not believe that he should let the judges influence his designs. He also told me that he doesn't design conventional clothes. I'm sure all of you know that as evidenced by his designs.
He probably thought he was though going in because of the creative nature of the challenges.. with the idea that he wanted to expand that way. I remember watching one of the bonus features where Robert mentioned his attention to little details structurally were very good but that Robert reminded him that under these kind of circumstances he couldn't think that way (not enough time) The judges and viewers wouldn't see or care. I also got the feeling in what I've read from the designers that as kooky as they thought Vincent was they really had a soft spot for him and basically liked the guy. Just like Bradley though it just wasn't maybe the best circumstances for him to work through his creative processes.
That's the only thing I think of that possibly the judges keep passing him through the eliminations though.. they're noticing something in Vincent that none of us at home are seeing and that's making us all scratch our heads.
notevayas
August 19, 2006 - 01:22 PM
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I see many people being provoked by little or nothing. I see several people grandstanding in reaction to a few sad individuals, and I don't know who to be more annoyed by.. the provoker, or the proverbial dog who won't let go of the bone until everyone knows how virtuous he/she is.
There are whole groups of people most likely to be on the internet during the daytime. One groups is retirees, and another, the disabled. People who are housebound often seem given to flights of fancy. On some boards we call them Walter Mittys. Some may the high-functioning emotionally or mentally challenged. It is not sporting to incite or poke fun at these people. Maybe they are just lonely teenagers who will go back to school soon, or maybe they are bored housewives/husbands. It doesn't matter. If you let a Walter Mitty get you hot and bothered, it is You who are going to sound like an idiot in the end. They have all day to post. You, presumably have a life. Learn to walk away. I never once replied to dog accessory lady. It takes two to tango.
Just my two cents, and not directed at any individual!
Notevayas, I do see this as directed at me.
I can't walk away. Accessory dog lady literally ruined the board. She had to go. It was virtually unanimus. But, because Bravo would be sensitive about being portrayed as unable to take criticism if they dumped somebody off merely for criticizing their un-PC statement in an episode, we had to work hard to distinguish the situation and provide separate, legitimate grounds for doing so. I'm not trying to look virtuous, I'm just glad we got it done before our community was disrupted for good.
And, there have been one or two people on this board who have been so desperately lonely as to appear borderline suicidal (at least to me). They too, need special handling of a different sort and a far kinder response than their posts might initially suggest. They are seeking human contact, and just getting an answer from somebody, -- anybody --, here seems to help steady them.
Many of us have jumped on LegendaryFace to one degree or another and I certainly have led the way having evil fun making a sport of it and trashing her mercilessly. You're right, I look like a total fool doing so. Your choice of words is kind; I actually look like a total a--hole for doing so. I suddenly do see her now as possibly an incredibly lonely person crying for help. That may not be a true impression, but . . . what if she is? What if, after the next five people tell her to take a hike, she finally gives up and slits her wrists because the response here seems to confirm a self-concept that nobody values her as a human being?
It is easy to tell who the strong personalities are on this board and who can "take it" during the occasional disagreements that are as inevitable as the son rising every morning. But, it is much harder to detect who the weaker ones are, and I am ashamed that I've been mean to somebody I don't know from a hole in the wall. Even if she might actually be that person and "deserve" it, it's not my place to stick it to her.
I quoted my son's t-shirt to LegendaryFace: "Jesus says: Don't be a [expletive deleted]!" That applies to me most of all today.
LegendaryFace, please accept my sincere apology.
FF1......... I want to clarify. I hook on to your posts sometimes because I respect what you have to say even when I don't agree. Your writing is fun and creative and you have a real commitment to this board in terms of time, that I just don't have.
I wish I had come back to the board sooner. I do read the back posts and it takes time as well. You are not an a$$! I was not suggesting you "make nice" with anyone. I was just trying to share what, in my experience, has worked on past boards.
For example, on the Bravo Queer Eye Board last year there was a poster who often made between 50 and 75 one line posts every day. They were not worded rudely, but they were inane. For example, she was sweet on Thom Filicia and would post endless variations on.. "I think Thom has sweet little boi curls." It turned out that she was not a troll per se, but mentally challenged. We had real trolls too, but they only enjoyed to stir things up with an anti-gay remark and never repost. Really, I found the indignant responses more annoying than the provocation. Women (mostly all) who I had enjoyed posting with for months or years wrote back things like... "Gays have a right to live too, you know. They are humans just like us." Well, um, thank you. Yes, I am.
Another thing you might be interested in was that many posters did complain to the BBB (Bravo Board Boss) about the 50-75 postings a day disrupting the board and they never did anything about it. I'm very surprised (and relieved) they stopped dogaccessory lady.. but Project Runway is their current hot property and she used Bravo as a slur of sorts. I can tell you that someone coming on the board and acting a bit snooty isn't going to get them "auffed". Some people resented "Manhattenbeach" who told us about her life modeling on the Runway 2 boards. It turned out that she had the most interesting and creative posts and was a writer as well as a former model. Not that I think this one is legit..
I am impressed FF1. Though it wasn't my intention to influence you to be a peacenik, you're influence has significantly lessened the repetitive negativity at least for the pages I've read. I love clever snark, but not whining! And BTW, what in your kindness you worry is a desperate call for help, could very well be manipulative and passive aggressive bull. I don't get sucked into that anymore, because I have been burned on the net by the most exquisite and believable sob stories. They have sites for perennial victims to validate each others "specialness". I come here to read and post about Runway.
I can't get away from Vincent's butt.. It was featured on tv this morning on "Best Week Ever". My guy was entirely too interested so I switched channels! I have to admit, for his age, not bad. Maybe the release to so many entertainment outlets of this video is no accident. Maybe they are milking all the attention because next week is a male designer's turn to be "auffed" and Vincent is going to get his walking papers!
notevayas
Legolass
August 19, 2006 - 02:50 PM
Notevayas, you said that you think Vincent will be getting his walking papers next week. Didn't we see his walking papers on the runway? j/k
I'm hoping you're right - lol
pacey988
August 19, 2006 - 02:53 PM
I honestly thought Kayne would be eliminated. The dress just looked very tacky and weird. There was nothing innovative about it at all. Of course I never liked Angela ever since her spat with Vincent, and despite the fact that she was born in New Orleans, I didn't care for Laura either. I guess what can happen as evidenced by most reality shows is that people can become something completely different when faced with competitive pressures. I know some of you have said things about Vincent, some were all in good fun, but hopefully that's it and whatever else is said about him is not a personal attack. If he really was a jerk from the beginning, if he was really difficult to be around and just impossible to work with, then my opinion of him would change. Yet I do not see anything objectionable about him or his personality. I do not believe he is genuinely crazy or has mental problems. Question his fashion sense all you want but don't question his character is all I'm saying.
notevayas
August 19, 2006 - 03:05 PM
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Notevayas, you said that you think Vincent will be getting his walking papers next week. Didn't we see his walking papers on the runway? j/k
I'm hoping you're right - lol
We saw his almostfallingdownthestairs papers.. maybe a closer look would show glued on rolling papers. Check out
http://projectrungay.blogspot.com/
and there is speculation that the dress Vincent said he "got off" on might not have needed glue..
AndrewPR
August 19, 2006 - 03:06 PM
I don't think Vincent is crazy or mentally unstable, just eccentric and kooky. His designs are either not attractive, or are arts and crafts projects. It's clear to me he is creatively stifled in this stressful environment, so he's trying to make up for it by going over the top thinking of himself as some sort of "modern artist gone couture".
But as Tim says, "if it's not pretty, it doesn't matter".
I think Alison has more potential to create great clothes than Vincent, and I hope her collection is well received at fashion week. I'm definitely sorry she isn't there anymore, but there are plenty of great designers left.
Legolass
August 19, 2006 - 03:13 PM
Gotcha, notevayas. A package of ZigZags and some unknown (lol) biological substance. What an image that conjures up. Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!
notevayas
August 19, 2006 - 03:20 PM
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Gotcha, notevayas. A package of ZigZags and some unknown (lol) biological substance. What an image that conjures up. Yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!
It's a mid-life crisis thing. You know .. the urge to leave something behind .. a architectural masterpiece.. some DNA..
I guess poor Vincent just misfired? j/k
Vincent: "Let it go. Let it flow.."
Shortea
August 19, 2006 - 03:23 PM
I don't why Vincent came back to something that made in lose it. I think he should find something that not going make go completely nuts, and I don't believe he can handle much more.
swiss74
August 19, 2006 - 03:28 PM
I honestly thought Kayne would be eliminated.
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I thought there was a slight possibility that would happen also and from the look on Kayne's face while he was standing on the runway, I think he was truly scared that he would be eliminated.
I have just rewatched this past episode on Project Runway for the millionth time and in particular I was interested in the exchange between Laura and Vincent. It was obvious that the group felt Vincent should have been eliminated not Alison. Laura was truly angry with the judges for not eliminating Vincent. She struck out and that was bad. Vincent responded with equal venom and the boxing match would have been on had Kayne not jumped in and quieted the situation, saying something like this is the last few minutes we have with Alison lets use it better.
It is obvious that Vincent can not take any type criticism in any way. He just becomes verbose and goes off. I actually wonder since he feels his garments are of such calibur what is he doing on the program. He does not feel that he needs help or helpful criticism. I know that this program is used by the designers to better or launch their careers. If Vincent had been in the industry he should have just have notified some of his old contacts and tried to work through them to get back into the fashion world. Look Alison is a relative newbe and she has been presenting a line of clothing for some time. As I said I am beginning to wonder just what Vincent's objective is, why is he on the show? Other than the possible exposure, none. If he had so much trouble and finally left the industry before, I imagine the reason was his attitude and his ability or inability to work with others. If he is trying to break back in, and the designers out there in fashionland are watching the program he is making a very poor impression. If I was a designer and had my own house and wanted to give someone a job or offer then a chance to produce their own line of clothes, I surely would not hire someone who is so arguementative. I would be looking for someone that would fit in my situation.
Does anyone else have an idea or agree with what I am saying?
Legolass
August 19, 2006 - 03:38 PM
Swiss, I agree with you completely. There probably is a very good reason why Vincent was not successful in his first efforts as a designer in NYC. We've seen that even the dated look he's producing now wouldn't have sold then, either.
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August 19, 2006 - 03:41 PM
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Swiss, I agree with you completely. There probably is a very good reason why Vincent was not successful in his first efforts as a designer in NYC. We've seen that even the dated look he's producing now wouldn't have sold then, either.
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Thanks I was wondering if I was the only that felt that way. I have been mulling this over for some time and just did not know if I should bring up this idea.
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August 19, 2006 - 04:01 PM
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I thought there was a slight possibility that would happen also and from the look on Kayne's face while he was standing on the runway, I think he was truly scared that he would be eliminated.
I have just rewatched this past episode on Project Runway for the millionth time and in particular I was interested in the exchange between Laura and Vincent. It was obvious that the group felt Vincent should have been eliminated not Alison. Laura was truly angry with the judges for not eliminating Vincent. She struck out and that was bad. Vincent responded with equal venom and the boxing match would have been on had Kayne not jumped in and quieted the situation, saying something like this is the last few minutes we have with Alison lets use it better.
It is obvious that Vincent can not take any type criticism in any way. He just becomes verbose and goes off. I actually wonder since he feels his garments are of such calibur what is he doing on the program. He does not feel that he needs help or helpful criticism. I know that this program is used by the designers to better or launch their careers. If Vincent had been in the industry he should have just have notified some of his old contacts and tried to work through them to get back into the fashion world. Look Alison is a relative newbe and she has been presenting a line of clothing for some time. As I said I am beginning to wonder just what Vincent's objective is, why is he on the show? Other than the possible exposure, none. If he had so much trouble and finally left the industry before, I imagine the reason was his attitude and his ability or inability to work with others. If he is trying to break back in, and the designers out there in fashionland are watching the program he is making a very poor impression. If I was a designer and had my own house and wanted to give someone a job or offer then a chance to produce their own line of clothes, I surely would not hire someone who is so arguementative. I would be looking for someone that would fit in my situation.
Does anyone else have an idea or agree with what I am saying?
I totally agree with you Swiss. I myself have not liked 1 thing Vincent has made. I gave him the benefit of the doubt until the current episode and his remarks to Laura. Vincent seems to live in his own world and anything said that doesnt support his opinions is shot down. If he is supposedly more to once again handle the stress of the fashion industry I would hate to see how he acted before. Hope his 401k will last cause aint no way he should win.
brillke
crossing my fingers and chanting "Vincent then Angela,Vincent then Angela"
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August 19, 2006 - 04:17 PM
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Me too and what I questioned this go round was the slit in Vincent's dress was even tackier than the one Robert got lambasted about and nary a word was said. What gives? Swiss, you may be right.
FoodFanOne
August 19, 2006 - 04:38 PM
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Like one poster said a dozen pages ago, its like crack and we are all addicted. The first step to solving a problem is to admit you have a problem. I admit i have one but i'm gonna stick with it. Even with all the grimy stuff that happened this week, i still want to tune in for more, more, MOOOOOOORRRRRREEEEEEEEEE. HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH(in a maniacal tone)
YES! YES! We can do it in 2-part harmony!
FoodFanOne
August 19, 2006 - 04:48 PM
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I still chuckle at the expressions on Kor's and Garcia's face when he finally shut them up. They gave me the opinion that they just realized he does not want to hear their opinions because he is right on all fronts.
I noticed that, too! Also, have you noticed that Vincent resides in the bottom 3 but never, ever looks scared about possibly being auf'd? It's like he is thinking that the judges all know his work is superior and,wink, wink, he'll play along with this little drama because he knows they have to do it for the ratings. I think he really believes that they completely respect his work and will pass him on to the finals.
Woe is me on the day it finally hits him that the only thing that matters is what the judges think of the outfits he produces in this competition, and that they are not "acting" when they give him negative comments.
swiss74
August 19, 2006 - 04:59 PM
I totally agree with you Swiss. I myself have not liked 1 thing Vincent has made. I gave him the benefit of the doubt until the current episode and his remarks to Laura. Vincent seems to live in his own world and anything said that doesnt support his opinions is shot down. If he is supposedly more to once again handle the stress of the fashion industry I would hate to see how he acted before. Hope his 401k will last cause aint no way he should win.
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Thanks for your opinion, I just wondered if I was way off base. I too see the eliminations as you see them...
swiss74
August 19, 2006 - 05:02 PM
Thanks cause I was beginning to think I was way over the top.
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August 19, 2006 - 05:04 PM
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I still chuckle at the expressions on Kor's and Garcia's face when he finally shut them up. They gave me the opinion that they just realized he does not want to hear their opinions because he is right on all fronts.
I noticed that, too! Also, have you noticed that Vincent resides in the bottom 3 but never, ever looks scared about possibly being auf'd? It's like he is thinking that the judges all know his work is superior and,wink, wink, he'll play along with this little drama because he knows they have to do it for the ratings. I think he really believes that they completely respect his work and will pass him on to the finals.
Woe is me on the day it finally hits him that the only thing that matters is what the judges think of the outfits he produces in this competition, and that they are not "acting" when they give him negative comments.
I agree with what you are saying, makes me wonder about the program in general.
swiss74
August 19, 2006 - 05:08 PM
I was beginning to think I was over analyzing the whole thing. Looking for hints that were not there and making things more important than they are.
I also noticed that Angela did not yo yo the project or I missed it. Maybe she does not want her name associated with the dress.
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August 19, 2006 - 05:11 PM
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I still chuckle at the expressions on Kor's and Garcia's face when he finally shut them up. They gave me the opinion that they just realized he does not want to hear their opinions because he is right on all fronts.
I noticed that, too! Also, have you noticed that Vincent resides in the bottom 3 but never, ever looks scared about possibly being auf'd? It's like he is thinking that the judges all know his work is superior and,wink, wink, he'll play along with this little drama because he knows they have to do it for the ratings. I think he really believes that they completely respect his work and will pass him on to the finals.
Woe is me on the day it finally hits him that the only thing that matters is what the judges think of the outfits he produces in this competition, and that they are not "acting" when they give him negative comments.
I agree with what you are saying, makes me wonder about the program in general.
Oh come on people, we've been wondering about the program for 193 pages now. This is so about ratings. Every season it's gotten a little more Reality Typical (for lack of a better term) and, I'm sorry FF1, I'm not going to be surprised when Top Chef comes back with a bit more dirty, unexplainable "packing of knives"
damselfly
August 19, 2006 - 05:15 PM
My husband thinks that every episode Tim should have a new accessory...yah know...last week a hard hat....next week a wimple. Get that "Catholic School-teacher-with-a-ruler" mojo working. "Designers fight nice"
swiss74
August 19, 2006 - 05:18 PM
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My husband thinks that every episode Tim should have a new accessory...yah know...last week a hard hat....next week a wimple. Get that "Catholic School-teacher-with-a-ruler" mojo working. "Designers fight nice"
That is funny, laughing while I am eating dinner.
swiss74
August 19, 2006 - 05:22 PM
I am wondering why, also, why Vincent is even there. What were his motives.
CALady
August 19, 2006 - 05:28 PM
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My husband thinks that every episode Tim should have a new accessory...yah know...last week a hard hat....next week a wimple. Get that "Catholic School-teacher-with-a-ruler" mojo working. "Designers fight nice"
OMG!!! LMAO !!! This is great. In fact that could be tonight’s game. "How to accessories Tim".
No wait.... that's right...he is already perfect!!!
Raymondo
August 19, 2006 - 05:41 PM
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My husband thinks that every episode Tim should have a new accessory...yah know...last week a hard hat....next week a wimple. Get that "Catholic School-teacher-with-a-ruler" mojo working. "Designers fight nice"
OMG!!! LMAO !!! This is great. In fact that could be tonight’s game. "How to accessories Tim".
No wait.... that's right...he is already perfect!!!
Perhaps this would make an interesting challenge:design a fantasy look for Tim....
FoodFanOne
August 19, 2006 - 05:41 PM
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Oh come on people, we've been wondering about the program for 193 pages now. This is so about ratings. Every season it's gotten a little more Reality Typical (for lack of a better term) and, I'm sorry FF1, I'm not going to be surprised when Top Chef comes back with a bit more dirty, unexplainable "packing of knives"
Not sure what you mean by the program bedoming more Reality Typical, but I do see a difference this year. The first year, the little cameo sound bites were actually pretty extensive quotes that were used as the vehicle to move the action forward. Last year, because there were more hijinks in the workroom, the little vids of the designers were used less, although Zulema was the go-to narrator at times.
Is it me, or are they using even fewer this year? I liked getting a few sentences that told a little story and also showed the designer's thought process and/or scheming nature. They also sometimes provided a nice counterpoint to what we saw on the screen, such as when the designers were stunned that Zulema would steal Nick's model and she retorted in her vid clip that "If you want her, win a challenge and take her back."
This year, some of the vid clips are just "reaction shots," like Laura's "Vincent, what an a--hole" or Jeffrey's "quack quack quack quack quack quackquackquackquackquackquackquack"
These types of statements, while great TV, don't really move the action forward.
swiss74
August 19, 2006 - 05:42 PM
OMG!!! LMAO !!! This is great. In fact that could be tonight’s game. "How to accessories Tim".
No wait.... that's right...he is already perfect!!!
I can not stop laughing that is so funny.
CALady
August 19, 2006 - 05:44 PM
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My husband thinks that every episode Tim should have a new accessory...yah know...last week a hard hat....next week a wimple. Get that "Catholic School-teacher-with-a-ruler" mojo working. "Designers fight nice"
OMG!!! LMAO !!! This is great. In fact that could be tonight’s game. "How to accessories Tim".
No wait.... that's right...he is already perfect!!!
Perhaps this would make an interesting challenge:design a fantasy look for Tim....
Great idea. This would be a hard challenge since he is so wonderful already!!!
FoodFanOne
August 19, 2006 - 05:45 PM
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Oh come on people, we've been wondering about the program for 193 pages now. This is so about ratings. Every season it's gotten a little more Reality Typical (for lack of a better term) and, I'm sorry FF1, I'm not going to be surprised when Top Chef comes back with a bit more dirty, unexplainable "packing of knives"
Not sure what you mean by the program bedoming more Reality Typical, but I do see a difference this year. The first year, the little cameo sound bites were actually pretty extensive quotes that were used as the vehicle to move the action forward. Last year, because there were more hijinks in the workroom, the little vids of the designers were used less, although Zulema was the go-to narrator at times.
Is it me, or are they using even fewer this year? I liked getting a few sentences that told a little story and also showed the designer's thought process and/or scheming nature. They also sometimes provided a nice counterpoint to what we saw on the screen, such as when the designers were stunned that Zulema would steal Nick's model and she retorted in her vid clip that "If you want her, win a challenge and take her back."
This year, some of the vid clips are just "reaction shots," like Laura's "Vincent, what an a--hole" or Jeffrey's "quack quack quack quack quack quackquackquackquackquackquackquack"
These types of statements, while great TV, don't really move the action forward.
Whoa, sorry, Laura referred to Keith, not Vincent. Sorry, all you Vincent fans out there.
CALady
August 19, 2006 - 05:48 PM
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OMG!!! LMAO !!! This is great. In fact that could be tonight’s game. "How to accessories Tim".
No wait.... that's right...he is already perfect!!!
I can not stop laughing that is so funny.
Well let's get the PR punch a flowing and see what we can do. Son is on his way to go pick up my Mexican food dinner. Once I get chips and salsa going, who knows what will happen.
damselfly
August 19, 2006 - 05:51 PM
"Designers, could you form a straight line, please? Vincent, do you have to visit the lavatory befere we leave? ... Robert? Kayne? would you like to share your comments with the whole group? Jeffery, stop that quacking.
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August 19, 2006 - 05:52 PM
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OMG!!! LMAO !!! This is great. In fact that could be tonight’s game. "How to accessories Tim".
No wait.... that's right...he is already perfect!!!
I can not stop laughing that is so funny.
Well let's get the PR punch a flowing and see what we can do. Son is on his way to go pick up my Mexican food dinner. Once I get chips and salsa going, who knows what will happen.
I'd like to see Tim in a Hugh Heffner style scarf at the neck.
CALady
August 19, 2006 - 05:53 PM
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"Designers, could you form a straight line, please? Vincent, do you have to visit the lavatory befere we leave? ... Robert? Kayne? would you like to share your comments with the whole group? Jeffery, stop that quacking.
ROTFLMAO!!!!
FoodFanOne
August 19, 2006 - 05:57 PM
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"Designers, could you form a straight line, please? Vincent, do you have to visit the lavatory befere we leave? ... Robert? Kayne? would you like to share your comments with the whole group? Jeffery, stop that quacking.
Laura, we need to remain tastful. Cover up your front, please. Angela, stop fussing with those rosettes in your hair. Uli? Please get out of your nightgown. What, that's your dress for today? Oh, sorry.
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August 19, 2006 - 05:58 PM
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I still chuckle at the expressions on Kor's and Garcia's face when he finally shut them up. They gave me the opinion that they just realized he does not want to hear their opinions because he is right on all fronts.
I noticed that, too! Also, have you noticed that Vincent resides in the bottom 3 but never, ever looks scared about possibly being auf'd? It's like he is thinking that the judges all know his work is superior and,wink, wink, he'll play along with this little drama because he knows they have to do it for the ratings. I think he really believes that they completely respect his work and will pass him on to the finals.
Woe is me on the day it finally hits him that the only thing that matters is what the judges think of the outfits he produces in this competition, and that they are not "acting" when they give him negative comments.
The most bizarre thought just popped into my head. You're absolutely right. He NEVER looks nervous when he's in the bottom 3 or even the bottom 2. Why not? Does he know (& not just in his own mind) that he will be safe & go forward to the next challenge? When the judges tell him they don't like the garment, why doesn't he start to get nervous? Isn't it like he already knows he's not out?
swiss74
August 19, 2006 - 05:59 PM
You all are making me laugh so hard, time for a lady's room break.
FoodFanOne
August 19, 2006 - 06:01 PM
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I still chuckle at the expressions on Kor's and Garcia's face when he finally shut them up. They gave me the opinion that they just realized he does not want to hear their opinions because he is right on all fronts.
I noticed that, too! Also, have you noticed that Vincent resides in the bottom 3 but never, ever looks scared about possibly being auf'd? It's like he is thinking that the judges all know his work is superior and,wink, wink, he'll play along with this little drama because he knows they have to do it for the ratings. I think he really believes that they completely respect his work and will pass him on to the finals.
Woe is me on the day it finally hits him that the only thing that matters is what the judges think of the outfits he produces in this competition, and that they are not "acting" when they give him negative comments.
The most bizarre thought just popped into my head. You're absolutely right. He NEVER looks nervous when he's in the bottom 3 or even the bottom 2. Why not? Does he know (& not just in his own mind) that he will be safe & go forward to the next challenge? When the judges tell him they don't like the garment, why doesn't he start to get nervous? Isn't it like he already knows he's not out?
I think it means that he really is not getting the message that his designs are not what the judges are looking for.
CALady
August 19, 2006 - 06:01 PM
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OMG!!! LMAO !!! This is great. In fact that could be tonight’s game. "How to accessories Tim".
No wait.... that's right...he is already perfect!!!
I can not stop laughing that is so funny.
Well let's get the PR punch a flowing and see what we can do. Son is on his way to go pick up my Mexican food dinner. Once I get chips and salsa going, who knows what will happen.
I'd like to see Tim in a Hugh Heffner style scarf at the neck.
Oh yes. Especially when he is driving the Saturn!!!
swiss74
August 19, 2006 - 06:01 PM
I was wondering about that too, like when on the elimination runway he is totally calm. At all other times very animated.
CALady
August 19, 2006 - 06:02 PM
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You all are making me laugh so hard, time for a lady's room break.
We find it is easier if you just keep a box of "Depends" next to your computer!!!
swiss74
August 19, 2006 - 06:03 PM
Tim needs an Afgan dog.
swiss74
August 19, 2006 - 06:05 PM
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You all are making me laugh so hard, time for a lady's room break.
We find it is easier if you just keep a box of "Depends" next to your computer!!!
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Will get some tomorrow. Kroger here I come.
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