"Maybe Vincent isn't so outdated after all. We all made fun of his dog challenge dress with the black leggings, but I just got a catalog in the mail touting skin-tight black pants and leggings as the "must have it" items this fall. Who'da thunk it. "
Leggings have been "in" for awhile now. Every young starlet seems to be wearing them with Lindsey Lohan owning a pair in every color it seems. Every picture of someone wearing them is followed by someone saying how 80`s they are and the person looks terrible.
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morning brillke!! I thought everyone was in bed, lol. what time zone are these posts in? It's 7:40am in New York state where I am.
LOL about leggings.
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I just realized that I'm going to be on the road delivering my son to back to college Wednesday. Heck with that, classes don't begin until Monday and it can wait a day. I'm changing the hotel reservation!
Where does your son go to school FF1
Carnegie Mellon University. He's a theoretical physics major transitioning over to global affairs.
Up near me...where are you driving from?
New York. Takes about 8 to 10 hours with all the stops for food, gas, etc. I get antsy and have to keep stopping for food -- caffiene to wake me up and munchies to keep me from zoning out (hearing all the crunching in my head keeps me focused). Will have me a nice loooong drive through moo-cow land. Surprisingly, a good chunk of Eastern Pennsylvania smells like cows and manure.
Hey...now I resemble that remark. At least my house smells like horses. We here in eastern pa are far "classier" than those is the middle, what we like to call "Pennsyltucky". When I would drive to Mich that was the part of the state I hated, the middle, it went on forever...
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"Maybe Vincent isn't so outdated after all. We all made fun of his dog challenge dress with the black leggings, but I just got a catalog in the mail touting skin-tight black pants and leggings as the "must have it" items this fall. Who'da thunk it. "
Leggings have been "in" for awhile now. Every young starlet seems to be wearing them with Lindsey Lohan owning a pair in every color it seems. Every picture of someone wearing them is followed by someone saying how 80`s they are and the person looks terrible.
brillke
80's are one of those decades that should stay there...I'm soooo saddened by this trend. It's all the young people who didn't live through it...because let me tell you all you need is one photo of yourself with big bangs and multi-colored sock, rolled jeans and oversized tee shirt to remind yourself how you weren't Pat Benetar and should not have tried to dress like her.
Good morning Gina. Its 6:51 am here. Didnt sleep well last night. Today is kidergarten orientation and think Im more excited/nervous then Chase,lol. Only have a partial day today though. First full day is Wednesday. After school its off to Target for something Im sure I forgot to buy.
As for PR, I just cant help but feel cheated this season. We see less of Tim Gunn,the challenges havent been exciting IMO,too much product placement/sponser spotlights,not impressed by the models with the exception of Nazri(sp),and so much more to complain about but you get the idea. With such a talented group of designers I really thought we would get to see more this season. Season 1 was taking baby steps but it still rocked. season 2 was the best so far as for personalities. Season 3 is such a letdown so far. We can all see the potential the show had and lets cross our fingers they pick up the ball they dropped soon.
brillke
oh, btw, I did notice I misspelled school in a previous post. Just didnt go back to correct it. I know I am a bad speller but not that bad!
As for PR, I just cant help but feel cheated this season. We see less of Tim Gunn,the challenges havent been exciting IMO,too much product placement/sponser spotlights,not impressed by the models with the exception of Nazri(sp),and so much more to complain about but you get the idea. With such a talented group of designers I really thought we would get to see more this season. Season 1 was taking baby steps but it still rocked. season 2 was the best so far as for personalities. Season 3 is such a letdown so far. We can all see the potential the show had and lets cross our fingers they pick up the ball they dropped soon.
brillke
oh, btw, I did notice I misspelled school in a previous post. Just didnt go back to correct it. I know I am a bad speller but not that bad!
Hey gina2,
I couldn't remember which Angela dress I liked, but you've refreshed my memory. Of course! The Audrey Hepburn dress! That came as a surprise. I guess I underestimated Angela's potential. She's still not among my faves and I'd feel weird if she does make it to the Final 3, but who knows...
I agree that Laura has a very elegant & timeless Katharine Hepburn style, but I would want to see her venture beyond her comfort zone at some point.
I'm not a big fan of anything blue & yellow, but I did like Jeffrey's dress for this episode, too!
I couldn't remember which Angela dress I liked, but you've refreshed my memory. Of course! The Audrey Hepburn dress! That came as a surprise. I guess I underestimated Angela's potential. She's still not among my faves and I'd feel weird if she does make it to the Final 3, but who knows...
I agree that Laura has a very elegant & timeless Katharine Hepburn style, but I would want to see her venture beyond her comfort zone at some point.
I'm not a big fan of anything blue & yellow, but I did like Jeffrey's dress for this episode, too!
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Hey gina2,
I couldn't remember which Angela dress I liked, but you've refreshed my memory. Of course! The Audrey Hepburn dress! That came as a surprise. I guess I underestimated Angela's potential. She's still not among my faves and I'd feel weird if she does make it to the Final 3, but who knows...
I agree that Laura has a very elegant & timeless Katharine Hepburn style, but I would want to see her venture beyond her comfort zone at some point.
I'm not a big fan of anything blue & yellow, but I did like Jeffrey's dress for this episode, too!
You know what would be an interesting challenge? Let the designers sketch then shop for fabric. Once they get back to the workroom Tim is there with his velvet bag of oversized buttons. Every designer picks a name then Tim drops the bombshell. You now have to do the design of the the persons name youve selected. Can you see Uli desinging for Angela? Laura for Jeffery? Vincent for Michael? That would be an interesting challenge,
brillke
Hi kitten,brillke, and damsel!! =o) Congrats on Chase Brillke!! I'm sure you will shed a few tears on the first day but then it will be good. they'll make new friends and learn new thing which is always great!!
BTW I totally agree about not seeing enough of Tim Gunn this season!! I miss his "carry on's" and "make it work"'s. he really helped make season 1 and 2 special. the designers this season may have more experience designing but I find them bland compared to the colorful characters in season 1 and 2.
I think, as someone else said, that they should bring back the previous designers as guest judges, lol. At least things would be interesting again!!
BTW I totally agree about not seeing enough of Tim Gunn this season!! I miss his "carry on's" and "make it work"'s. he really helped make season 1 and 2 special. the designers this season may have more experience designing but I find them bland compared to the colorful characters in season 1 and 2.
I think, as someone else said, that they should bring back the previous designers as guest judges, lol. At least things would be interesting again!!
oh one more thing, about the designers designing for each other? I loved it the first time and think it would be awesome again although they rarely do the same challenge twice. oops thought about something else, about the designers designing and buying fabric with out knowing what they are doing it for? another great idea!! Can you imagine what that might spark? rofl!!
ok off to work I go, see you all tonight!! =o)
Yes. She (Laura) seemed to be on the warpath. Being mean is one way to get camera time.
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oh one more thing, about the designers designing for each other? I loved it the first time and think it would be awesome again although they rarely do the same challenge twice. oops thought about something else, about the designers designing and buying fabric with out knowing what they are doing it for? another great idea!! Can you imagine what that might spark? rofl!!
Opps, I misspoke. I dont mean desinging for a designer, I meant designing as the chosen designer. Can you see Laura having to do one of Jeffs designs? Would Michael go over the edge having to make Angelas rossettes? Could Vincent pull off a Laura design without his trademark wackiness? The designers would have to follow the sketches provided by the original designer and can only use the fabric bought by the original designer. Think of it as a "Freaky Friday" challenge.
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Floss, if you go to http://bloggingprojectrunway.blogspot.com/
you'll find a picture of Heidi on the home page with her hair in a HUGE bow on top of her head. The only difference is that her's had started to slip sideways. I'm hoping that someone reminds her of that photo soon. Think I'll send the link to Tim Gunn so he can get it printed out to give to her on the reunion show.
It makes no difference to me that Heidi wears the same moronic bow atop her dome. What I was trying to suggest about Alison's model's bow was that the judges may have asked themselves this: did it add to or detract from the outfit?
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Oops, I misspoke. I dont mean designing for a designer, I meant designing as the chosen designer. Can you see Laura having to do one of Jeff's designs? Would Michael go over the edge having to make Angelas rosettes? Could Vincent pull off a Laura design without his trademark wackiness? The designers would have to follow the sketches provided by the original designer and can only use the fabric bought by the original designer. Think of it as a "Freaky Friday" challenge.
brillke
I think you're suggesting something like the Ted Allen challenge on Top Chef, where the chefs planned a seven-course meal and each designed one course. Then the bomb dropped, and they found they each had to do one of the other chef's courses instead of their own. It was a neat challenge and would work well for PR.
They could even have the same criteria in terms of choosing to make the exact garment the other designer visualized or adding their own touches to make it their own; they could also be given the option to seek as much or as little advice from the original designer as they wished.
I think your idea has a lot of potential.
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oh one more thing, about the designers designing for each other? I loved it the first time and think it would be awesome again although they rarely do the same challenge twice. oops thought about something else, about the designers designing and buying fabric with out knowing what they are doing it for? another great idea!! Can you imagine what that might spark? rofl!!
Opps, I misspoke. I dont mean desinging for a designer, I meant designing as the chosen designer. Can you see Laura having to do one of Jeffs designs? Would Michael go over the edge having to make Angelas rossettes? Could Vincent pull off a Laura design without his trademark wackiness? The designers would have to follow the sketches provided by the original designer and can only use the fabric bought by the original designer. Think of it as a "Freaky Friday" challenge.
brillke
They did the same thing in Top Chef. Everyone planned a dish and bought the ingredients, then were made to draw knives (that show's version of drawing straws, knives with names taped to them drawn out of a knife block) to see whose dish they would be required to make instead. Made it interesting. Some explained to the one who inherited the dish exactly how they had planned to do it, others didn't. So, the inheritor got a pile of ingredients and the name of the dish and had to do their best interpretation without any help.
BTW, saw something on the "E" channel that was a bit of a jaw-dropper. Seems there is a new Barbie doll out with a very special "accessory" held in her arm -- a little doggie with matching outfit!
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Oops, I misspoke. I dont mean designing for a designer, I meant designing as the chosen designer. Can you see Laura having to do one of Jeff's designs? Would Michael go over the edge having to make Angelas rosettes? Could Vincent pull off a Laura design without his trademark wackiness? The designers would have to follow the sketches provided by the original designer and can only use the fabric bought by the original designer. Think of it as a "Freaky Friday" challenge.
brillke
I think you're suggesting something like the Ted Allen challenge on Top Chef, where the chefs planned a seven-course meal and each designed one course. Then the bomb dropped, and they found they each had to do one of the other chef's courses instead of their own. It was a neat challenge and would work well for PR.
They could even have the same criteria in terms of choosing to make the exact garment the other designer visualized or adding their own touches to make it their own; they could also be given the option to seek as much or as little advice from the original designer as they wished.
I think your idea has a lot of potential.
What about this...They have to work ALL TOGETHER on a line that must have everything for the working woman. Night wear, office wear, casual wear, evening wear, maybe lengerie(sp-I am a bad speller,
Each designer taking responsibilty for their piece, but haveing to work together, with no designated leader, so that is flows like a runway show would...What do you all think? Good challenge?
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[Frankly, I dislike any designer being auffed over a dress made from paper, or flowers, or food.. especially Andre!
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I agree with you in spirit; that is to say, it sucks someone has to go during the duct tape/paper/perennial/tube sock etc. portion of the series. It should be about clothes and clothes only, right? What is unfortunate for cuties like Alison and Andrae is that other designers, with the same perimeters and restrictions, manage to make an outfit so much better than those who get auf'ed. If someone doesn't lose a challenge like this, then someone can't win a challenge like this, which is unfair to Michael or Chloe or whomever wins in the future.
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What about this...They have to work ALL TOGETHER on a line that must have everything for the working woman. Night wear, office wear, casual wear, evening wear, maybe lengerie(sp-I am a bad speller,
PR1 had a similar challenge; the designers had to work as a team to create a cohesive collection. It was a disaster! There was a team leader to hold the concept together, but everyone had pretty much equal input. They got overambitious and had to abandon a lot of their presentation ideas at the last minute. I think the producers got cold feet after that.
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As for PR, I just cant help but feel cheated this season. We see less of Tim Gunn,the challenges havent been exciting IMO,too much product placement/sponser spotlights,not impressed by the models with the exception of Nazri(sp),and so much more to complain about but you get the idea. With such a talented group of designers I really thought we would get to see more this season. Season 1 was taking baby steps but it still rocked. season 2 was the best so far as for personalities. Season 3 is such a letdown so far. We can all see the potential the show had and lets cross our fingers they pick up the ball they dropped soon.
brillke
Are we watching the same show? Perhaps folks are getting a bit jaded, but I think this season really rocks. Each season starts out slowly, with the challenges designed to create camaraderie and be interesting in their own right because there just isn't enough camera time to introduce us to each designer in detail at that point.
As the field narrows, we are getting more and more workroom time, Tim time, and interaction between the designers. This last episode even cut down the recap of the prior episode to a flurry of camera cuts lasting only about 30 seconds tops.
I for one think we are getting superior value in each show this season. Plus, the production values have gone up quite a bit. I don't recall them having a boom camera in season 1, for example, and now it looks like they could be doing as much as a 5 camera shoot. I also applaud the new colors in the workrooms and the royal blue lights shining down on the curtains in the runway hall, rather than those aqua can lights shining up on them. Much more dramatic, appealing look. Plus, the editing is really well-done (although that was always well-done, but this season there is a lot of action to commnuicate to the viewers). My main gripe is not seeing the full runway walk of each outfit (i.e., a nice long look at both the front and back of it). If it is a good one, I'd like to see it and enjoy it. If it is a cringer, then the full runway walk will demonstrate that and we'd have less problem accepting the judges' decisions.
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What about this...They have to work ALL TOGETHER on a line that must have everything for the working woman. Night wear, office wear, casual wear, evening wear, maybe lengerie(sp-I am a bad speller,
PR1 had a similar challenge; the designers had to work as a team to create a cohesive collection. It was a disaster! There was a team leader to hold the concept together, but everyone had pretty much equal input. They got overambitious and had to abandon a lot of their presentation ideas at the last minute. I think the producers got cold feet after that.
Yup, you know I forgot about that with the whole "pod" thing that they then threw away and just did the line with no cohesion...you're right.
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Yup, you know I forgot about that with the whole "pod" thing that they then threw away and just did the line with no cohesion...you're right.
Thanks! Good to know the old memory isn't quite gone yet!
Someone should tell grandpa vincent to go back to the old people's home where he can drool and dribble out some "high art". When he was standing over that shitpile he called a dress tacking on pieces of paper it was all I could do not to vomit. It would be one thing if he was a clueless old fogey, but Vincent is arrogant and completely talentless. DIE
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Someone should tell grandpa vincent to go back to the old people's home where he can drool and dribble out some "high art". When he was standing over that shitpile he called a dress tacking on pieces of paper it was all I could do not to vomit. It would be one thing if he was a clueless old fogey, but Vincent is arrogant and completely talentless. DIE
I don't know about everyone else, but I get the distinct impression you hated his dress...
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-- I just finished my undergrad degree in June (I'm 55 yrs old, by the way, just in case you're curious) -- and managed to eke out A's in those classes, but I had to study like #&!!. I'm good in some forms of math, but not others (geometry, trig, anything to do with patterns, like probability and stats, etc. are all good for me; calculus? huh?).
It is very admirable to go back to school in your fifties. Congratulations! As Daniel Franco would say, "Follow your bliss!"
It is very admirable to go back to school in your fifties. Congratulations! As Daniel Franco would say, "Follow your bliss!"
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Just dropping by for some punch. It took me a little time to catch up, so I hope you all are still around for some late-night chit chat.
To piggyback on some earlier points, I do think styling matters. It probably always has been an issue, but I've noticed more comments on Season 3 regarding the total look the designers put together. Even during the Road to the Runway, Kors mentioned the importance of presentation when he was reviewing Alison's portfolio. To paraphrase, she had used the "Right clothes, right hair & makeup, right girl. She's veeery goood. (Last sentence to be read with high, sing-song inflection.)"
Wasn't it this episode where the judges mentioned that Kayne gets presentation...and that Vincent needed to "get it"? Remind me...cuz someting is telling me that was part of the elimination process.
And, yeah, I do think that the explication each designer gives is taken into consideration. Anyone remember Robert from the first seaon? All the designers said he was skating by on his ability to talk a good talk. In this case, regarding her giant hair bow, Alison only said she wanted it to be fun and cute. She should have had some great story, like Kayne's "she-went-through-the-recycling-plant" malarky.
Maybe she could have taken a page from Vincent's book and said something like, "Hair bows turn me on." Or from Kara Janx's book, "Hair's like BAM. Like Wow." Or Satino's, "It's only a hair bow, Nina."
All excellent points. I thought I read in Tim's take or somewhere that Alison was questioned about the hair bow before the runway show, and her reply was that she thought it was cute. I got the impression that she deliberately let it go out there. Contrary to many posters here, I thought Alison's designs were forgettable. The dog challenge outfit was supposed to be great but I found it hard to see the detail on the TV screen, so I reserve judgment on that one.
A number of people here have been horrified at Heidi's comments about Alison having made her model look like a plus-size model. But this wasn't Michael Kors' greatest showing in the diplomacy department, either. Did you notice that, when he was complimenting Michael on his garment, Kors said that he could really see a pretty girl wearing it? What about Nazri? The cameras didn't show her reaction, but I bet her feelings must have been very hurt. MK's comment perhaps indicates a view that models are just manequens and not real people. Shame, shame, MK.
Oh, I thought he said "cool" girl.
Well, either way, I agree with you. These girls must feel poked, proded, and coralled by the end of each runway show, especially when you consider that designers don't always finish their garments before they have to walk out. Weren't some of Zulema's and Santino's taped onto the model themselves?
And let's not forget about Kayne's comments: Be pretty, not heard. And grab some duct tape in case you forget that!
Well, I suppose they sign up for it when they choose that profession. But, it helps explain why girls who model have such self-esteem issues...
Well, either way, I agree with you. These girls must feel poked, proded, and coralled by the end of each runway show, especially when you consider that designers don't always finish their garments before they have to walk out. Weren't some of Zulema's and Santino's taped onto the model themselves?
And let's not forget about Kayne's comments: Be pretty, not heard. And grab some duct tape in case you forget that!
Well, I suppose they sign up for it when they choose that profession. But, it helps explain why girls who model have such self-esteem issues...
To Heidi's credit, she did not call Alexandra a "plus model" or say she was fat. What she said was that Alison had made Alexandra LOOK LIKE a plus model and made her LOOK fat! The criticism was directed toward Alison, not her model.
However, Tim did describe Alexandra as "zaftig" and "large," and Alison agreed with him. Furthermore, in her EW interview, Alison blamed her auf-ing on Alexandra being an outsized 8 or 10 (she's a 4) with no defined waist and further claimed that Amanda (her model in the first challenge) had scoliosis with one shoulder higher than the other. She also asserted that the designers who work with Nazri always win, but of course, that's not true either.
Lots of sour grapes there, Alison! Other designers have worked just fine with Alexandra and Amanda.
However, Tim did describe Alexandra as "zaftig" and "large," and Alison agreed with him. Furthermore, in her EW interview, Alison blamed her auf-ing on Alexandra being an outsized 8 or 10 (she's a 4) with no defined waist and further claimed that Amanda (her model in the first challenge) had scoliosis with one shoulder higher than the other. She also asserted that the designers who work with Nazri always win, but of course, that's not true either.
Lots of sour grapes there, Alison! Other designers have worked just fine with Alexandra and Amanda.
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Oh, I thought he said "cool" girl.
Well, either way, I agree with you. These girls must feel poked, proded, and coralled by the end of each runway show, especially when you consider that designers don't always finish their garments before they have to walk out. Weren't some of Zulema's and Santino's taped onto the model themselves?
And let's not forget about Kayne's comments: Be pretty, not heard. And grab some duct tape in case you forget that!
Well, I suppose they sign up for it when they choose that profession. But, it helps explain why girls who model have such self-esteem issues...
I remember in the follow-up show last year Zulema's blond model, who she got rid of was asked what it was like to work with her and she talked about how somestuff was unfinished and Zulema asked if it was ok to glue or pin thing to her and she was like um hello I'm a human being. I used to work with a women who when we were doing actresses measurements would comment on their 27" waists beig big or that they had added inches since last year like they weren't even standing there...It is part of that world, but designers aren't known for being the easiest to work with and lets not forget what MK does for a living.
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Remford,
Do you mean that Alison showed little class on the runway or during her post-PR interviews?
I noticed that more than one of those comments on the Bravo exit video (and elsewhere) were, um, sour grapes. I was surprised, quite frankly, that she admitted Jeffrey often says what she thinks. It made me realize that the Supernice Supercute Supersilent Alison was a bit darker than we'd thought. Jeffrey's comments are often of a nefarious nature, dontcha think?
I wouldn't use the word nefarious to describe Jeffrey. IMO he's blunt, and sometimes abrasive, and at times, such as the comments about Angela and Laura, simply rude and immature. From the clips of the next episode, it seems that the producers are playing Jeffrey up as the bad boy on this season.
You know what would be an interesting challenge? Let the designers sketch then shop for fabric. Once they get back to the workroom Tim is there with his velvet bag of oversized buttons. Every designer picks a name then Tim drops the bombshell. You now have to do the design of the the persons name youve selected. Can you see Uli desinging for Angela? Laura for Jeffery? Vincent for Michael? That would be an interesting challenge,
brillke
If they shopped for the fabric before they knew which designer they would dress, I would hope Kayne and Uli would hold it down on the prints *snicker*.
brillke
If they shopped for the fabric before they knew which designer they would dress, I would hope Kayne and Uli would hold it down on the prints *snicker*.
PR1 had a similar challenge; the designers had to work as a team to create a cohesive collection. It was a disaster! There was a team leader to hold the concept together, but everyone had pretty much equal input. They got overambitious and had to abandon a lot of their presentation ideas at the last minute. I think the producers got cold feet after that.
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You know, that was one of my favorite challenges. I realize the designers dropped the ball on the cohesion aspect of it, but I really enjoyed watching them all work (or not work) together to create a clothing line. Even though it was train wreck of a collection, each desinger (except Wendy Pepper's look-what-my-cat-threw-up outfit) made something fabulous. Kara Saun's was gorgeous. I even liked Kevin's, though it was too polished to fit in with the deconstructed theme.
I also loved that they had to work with vintage clothes to create a future concept. It was such a contrast. Smart.
For this reason, I really appreciate Season One of PR. The challenges seemed fresh, innovative, and exciting. Did y'all like the Postal challenge? I did. That was one for the everyday woman! And it involved practicality and purpose...a real "design" design challenge, if their ever was one.
Don't get me wrong, I love each season for it's own uniqueness-- Season One for it's originality and challenges, Season Two for the mad characters and Santino's Tim Gunn impersonations, and Season Three for the level of design expertise---so I don't think I can single out which one strikes my fancy most. It's like asking me to choose a favorite movie or flavor of ice cream. They're all good; it just depends on my mood.
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You know, that was one of my favorite challenges. I realize the designers dropped the ball on the cohesion aspect of it, but I really enjoyed watching them all work (or not work) together to create a clothing line. Even though it was train wreck of a collection, each desinger (except Wendy Pepper's look-what-my-cat-threw-up outfit) made something fabulous. Kara Saun's was gorgeous. I even liked Kevin's, though it was too polished to fit in with the deconstructed theme.
I also loved that they had to work with vintage clothes to create a future concept. It was such a contrast. Smart.
For this reason, I really appreciate Season One of PR. The challenges seemed fresh, innovative, and exciting. Did y'all like the Postal challenge? I did. That was one for the everyday woman! And it involved practicality and purpose...a real "design" design challenge, if their ever was one.
Don't get me wrong, I love each season for it's own uniqueness-- Season One for it's originality and challenges, Season Two for the mad characters and Santino's Tim Gunn impersonations, and Season Three for the level of design expertise---so I don't think I can single out which one strikes my fancy most. It's like asking me to choose a favorite movie or flavor of ice cream. They're all good; it just depends on my mood.
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Remford,
Do you mean that Alison showed little class on the runway or during her post-PR interviews?
I noticed that more than one of those comments on the Bravo exit video (and elsewhere) were, um, sour grapes. I was surprised, quite frankly, that she admitted Jeffrey often says what she thinks. It made me realize that the Supernice Supercute Supersilent Alison was a bit darker than we'd thought. Jeffrey's comments are often of a nefarious nature, dontcha think?
I wouldn't use the word nefarious to describe Jeffrey. IMO he's blunt, and sometimes abrasive, and at times, such as the comments about Angela and Laura, simply rude and immature. From the clips of the next episode, it seems that the producers are playing Jeffrey up as the bad boy on this season.
Sure. But his comments can be a bit "wicked," don't you agree? I mean, hoping someone has a stroke can come across as a little on the "despicable, reprehensible, evil" side. I don't what he's like in person, but those comments are cold.
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Remford,
Do you mean that Alison showed little class on the runway or during her post-PR interviews?
I noticed that more than one of those comments on the Bravo exit video (and elsewhere) were, um, sour grapes. I was surprised, quite frankly, that she admitted Jeffrey often says what she thinks. It made me realize that the Supernice Supercute Supersilent Alison was a bit darker than we'd thought. Jeffrey's comments are often of a nefarious nature, dontcha think?
I wouldn't use the word nefarious to describe Jeffrey. IMO he's blunt, and sometimes abrasive, and at times, such as the comments about Angela and Laura, simply rude and immature. From the clips of the next episode, it seems that the producers are playing Jeffrey up as the bad boy on this season.
Sure. But his comments can be a bit "wicked," don't you agree? I mean, hoping someone has a stroke can come across as a little on the "despicable, reprehensible, evil" side. I don't what he's like in person, but those comments are cold.
Yah know, something strikes me as all the personalities unfold and we all debate about the editing. MTV did a reunion many years ago of the first 6 or 7 seasons on the Real Worlds. One of the girls from the later seasons complained that the editing made her out to be a [expletive deleted] and that she really wasn't. But then one of the girls from the original season, what is her name, anyway said They may edit it but you have to give them the material to make you out to be that character. If you said something, your said it. That's Jeffery, Laura, and Kayne...they could possibly be very nice people but they have shown other sides, that's what we've seen...but they have said what they've said.
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Opps, I misspoke. I dont mean desinging for a designer, I meant designing as the chosen designer. Can you see Laura having to do one of Jeffs designs? Would Michael go over the edge having to make Angela's rossettes? Could Vincent pull off a Laura design without his trademark wackiness? The designers would have to follow the sketches provided by the original designer and can only use the fabric bought by the original designer. Think of it as a "Freaky Friday" challenge.
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You would have a revolt. I can't even begin to see it happening. Robert would no doubt get Jeffrey's design, Angela would rosette (sorry, "fluershon" ) Uli's halter dress; Laura would cut a deep V neck in Robert's dress; Kayne would paint a big flower on Vincent's design. Oh, wait, that would improve Vincent's design.
Opps, I misspoke. I dont mean desinging for a designer, I meant designing as the chosen designer. Can you see Laura having to do one of Jeffs designs? Would Michael go over the edge having to make Angela's rossettes? Could Vincent pull off a Laura design without his trademark wackiness? The designers would have to follow the sketches provided by the original designer and can only use the fabric bought by the original designer. Think of it as a "Freaky Friday" challenge.
brillke
You would have a revolt. I can't even begin to see it happening. Robert would no doubt get Jeffrey's design, Angela would rosette (sorry, "fluershon" ) Uli's halter dress; Laura would cut a deep V neck in Robert's dress; Kayne would paint a big flower on Vincent's design. Oh, wait, that would improve Vincent's design.
What about this...They have to work ALL TOGETHER on a line that must have everything for the working woman. Night wear, office wear, casual wear, evening wear, maybe lengerie(sp-I am a bad speller, Each designer taking responsibilty for their piece, but haveing to work together, with no designated leader, so that is flows like a runway show would...What do you all think? Good challenge?
Fantastic idea. Email that one to Tim for next season (if they aren't already doing it Wednesday!)
Each designer taking responsibilty for their piece, but haveing to work together, with no designated leader, so that is flows like a runway show would...What do you all think? Good challenge?Fantastic idea. Email that one to Tim for next season (if they aren't already doing it Wednesday!)
Very upset with this weeks episode!! Yes Allison's outfit was pretty bad-- but in previous episodes she always scored high enough to be safe. Whereas Vincent is always coming up short- was keeping him safe the choice of the judges or the producers who see him as watchable by the viewing public- maybe b/c he's quirky?? I have yet to see an outfit of his to stand out- and he's been in the bottom 3 several times. If Kayne was carried through b/c of previous designs then Vincent should have been off for the same reason. Please tell me Im not alone on this one.
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What about this...They have to work ALL TOGETHER on a line that must have everything for the working woman. Night wear, office wear, casual wear, evening wear, maybe lengerie(sp-I am a bad speller,
Fantastic idea. Email that one to Tim for next season (if they aren't already doing it Wednesday!)
I like this idea, especially the part of no team leader. I think being a team leader on PR is the worst spot to be in on the show. Plus everyone having to work it out together could lead to a real Project Catfight and that would be fun to watch!
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Very upset with this weeks episode!! Yes Allison's outfit was pretty bad-- but in previous episodes she always scored high enough to be safe. Whereas Vincent is always coming up short- was keeping him safe the choice of the judges or the producers who see him as watchable by the viewing public- maybe b/c he's quirky?? I have yet to see an outfit of his to stand out- and he's been in the bottom 3 several times. If Kayne was carried through b/c of previous designs then Vincent should have been off for the same reason. Please tell me Im not alone on this one.
Since you're late for the episode let me just recap by saying you're not alone but it's not the only reaction by a long shot. A lot of folks have altered their position in the aftermath.
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Has anyone seen a young , fresh-faced Robert in the Isaac Mizrahi documentary "Unzipped"? This was a great fashion movie on its own, a Project Runway prequel if you will. And it certainly illustrates Robert's rooftop description of his time with Isaac as one that taught him patience.
OT, kinda...I was just reading my new InStyle mag and in the intervies with Drew Barrymore she was getting ready to go to a rap party on her new movie and the dress she was wearing was one she made "We had a Project Runway contest on set." Kinda cool to think that as we are all sitting here debating who was auf'd and why so is Drew...she does come across as real in most of her interviews and movies. Just a today fun fact.
Hello and where have you been all weekend? Someplace FABULOUS I bet...;oP
Your so silly, I had a really quite weekend.
Dams I heard that Carole finshed up her degree that's excellent. Isn't she like 70 or somthing?
Very respectable...me too!
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Do you mean that Alison showed little class on the runway or during her post-PR interviews?
I noticed that more than one of those comments on the Bravo exit video (and elsewhere) were, um, sour grapes. I was surprised, quite frankly, that she admitted Jeffrey often says what she thinks. It made me realize that the Supernice Supercute Supersilent Alison was a bit darker than we'd thought. Jeffrey's comments are often of a nefarious nature, dontcha think?
I wouldn't use the word nefarious to describe Jeffrey. IMO he's blunt, and sometimes abrasive, and at times, such as the comments about Angela and Laura, simply rude and immature. From the clips of the next episode, it seems that the producers are playing Jeffrey up as the bad boy on this season.
Sure. But his comments can be a bit "wicked," don't you agree? I mean, hoping someone has a stroke can come across as a little on the "despicable, reprehensible, evil" side. I don't what he's like in person, but those comments are cold.
I agree that Jeffrey's comments about wishing Laura would have a stroke was reprehensible- really ugly. Maybe he's trying to play some mind games. If he is, too bad. I just want to see all of the designers back in the workroom,creating
I don't know about Carole but azucena just finished her undergrad at 55 and is going on to grad school
Thats good, how is Carole these days?
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