Good Morning all!! Just 36 hours to go...hee hee.

No, really, I am serious in my opinion. I think I have read that you are an older academic? I don't know your world, having barely survived high school, but I think it must be full of rules and regulations. Laura's is not. She works part-time for a top architectural firm her husband helped found. She travels in artistic circles in NYC.
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Yes I work in the academic setting but that has always been considered the most liberal of settings. Yes there are rules but nothing says we are expected to show up in a gunny sack to work. Take a look, there is the professor in Colorado and also the one at my old alma mater in Wisconsin. Both are out there telling everyone what they think. Do I approve of what they are saying, no, but I will defend to the death their right to say it. Whether she works for her husband or not is not a factor in the equation. She is a professional and should maintain a certain air about her when she is working with clients. I was more speaking to the work place at Parsons. Not necessarily at her husband's firm. Traveling in artistic circles in New York city does not really apply here in my opinion. Whether I am as old as mummy dust or not does not apply either. My kids would not wear something like that either, one being a doctor in LA, one being a lawyer in New York City and one working in a hospital/laboratory/research setting it just is not appropriate. They I would venture are younger than Laura.
I reconfirm my statement that her apparel is not appropriate for the work place, therefore I do not consider her "best dressed."
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I don't know her world either. I live in a small MA town with my lover, but I grew up poor in DE. But what I do know is that while I do not have diamonds, I can wear my hair to my shoulders and vintage clothes and running shoes, and still be treated with respect here.
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I can be seen on many occasions in running shoes, etc. I too am treated with respect when I wear them. Makes no difference.
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Where I grew up, if I didn't get beat up, I would be assumed to be up to no good if I wasn't working. And I would have to dress to conform to work.
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That is a sad commentary on the place where you were raised.
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So, it is really the bourgeois sensibility you are proclaiming. It is sort of a middle class Protestant thing about what is proper for your place?
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I find these last few sentenses particularly troubling and offensive. I do not feel you needed to attack me personally I do not remember attacking you personally. That is what starts fueds, arguements, wars and such. I was just commenting on your statements not commenting about you personally. I did not strike out at your religion, your ethnic background or anything about you personally. No not as you put it bourgeois sensibility at all, it is just common sense. Take a peak in my world. If someone wore the low cut necklines in my field they take the chance to really injuring themselves. Acid get splattered and she would have many acid burns on her chest. We were lab coats so as to protect ourselves from just such problems and even then we burn our clothes with acids and alkaline substances. It has to do with dressing for the job you are doing. Personally I think Laura wears the plunging necklines to get attention more than to make an artistic statement. The assumption you make, middle class Protestant thing almost makes me cry if I could stop laughing. I am of French, German and Swiss decent, you figure out what religion I am. There is nothing middle class about being dressed in a proper manner to do a job. It is out of respect for your boss and the consumers. It also has to do with not offending future clients. I may be from the mid-west, but I know that most of the people I associate with dress more conseratively as to not ask for trouble and to stave of possible attacks by certain elements in our society. For you to throw those two statements at me is particularly troubling.
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Laura's place is rarified and esoteric to us. And I'm sure that nearly everything she wears on the show she has designed herself.
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Whether she designs the garments she wears does not apply here and what I was trying to express. She on a whole looks like she is on her way to a coctail party not a place of work. I do not know how the others on the board feel but if I went into a firm, no matter what kind it was and she showed up in a plunging neckline, I would rethink my position on hiring them because I would wonder if they really were a serious firm. A firm that knows the ropes. Everyone says her husband is part of a well known firm, maybe so, but that is how I see it.
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So, it does not surprise me to see her sewing in a cocktail dress, or walking to Central Park in riding togs. She has our attention, and she looks great to me anyway.
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Hey if you think she looks great, fine with me. I do not. I think she looks out of place.
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If Laura were a younger woman, I would be worried about her weight. But this is not her first child and she must know about taking supplements, because a fetus will steal everything it needs from her body.
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Whether she takes supplements or not is not a part of what I was concerned about and will not comment on that.
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But I think you are mainly put off by Laura's lack of a large bust. Not every culture has the American fixation with a big chest.
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Boy did you misunderstand what I was trying to say. I do not care what kind of bust she has. I said something like seeing her rib cage does not to me seem in good taste. I am concerned about her weight, you do not have to be 20 to suffer from eating disorders.
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Heidi can pull it off, but many women who are overendowed end up looking like cows which is the opposite of elegant. +++++++++++++
Looking like cows, please. That is not what I was talking about and it is I venture to say a cheap shot. Whether you are underweight or overweight you can look elegant, well dressed, or clean and neat, it is a matter of taste and what you are doing. To slam people that are overweight is particulay low in my opinion. I do not feel me saying, seeing Laura's rib cage comments on her weight. You can see bones on most people, heavy or thin.
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Laura has my respect for rising above the "herd". That is what a fashion maker does.
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No I do not think that is rising above the herd, I think it is a statement, "I need attention" as I have said before.
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Nina, sad to say, is more of a fashion "follower". I would love to see Uli dress her. I forgot to add Uli to my well-dressed list.
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I don't know if Nina is a fashion follower or not. Don't particularly like labels like that. What I was trying to say is she appears a little old fashion in her clothes and I would have expected something different.
As for Uli, I like her style of garments that she designs but I feel they basically all the same and I would like to see her break out somewhat because I feel she needs to spread her wings. I understand her designs because she lives and works in Florida where sun dresses and summer wear are worn a lot as they are here when it is hot. I personally feel if she wants to go national with her designs she need to expand her designs and design for the various differences in our country. I do not know if you are saying she is well dressed in the workroom or that her designs put her on your best dressed list. To me she dresses appropriately for the job she is doing.
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Heidi is more of a fashion "child". She dresses for fun. All three women are at a place where they do not have to worry about what anyone thinks.
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Could be but I think since this is a "fashion show" they would try to put their best foot forward. If the statement you make, they are at a place where they do not have to worry about what people think, I would have to disagree with you.
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I wish Heidi would stop wearing Kara Saun's fashions though. They do nothing for her. Nor do the pencil thin jeans with heels.. but product placement is a Bravo staple.
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Heels and jeans are popular everywhere, I was not commenting on that.
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Somewhere you state you were poor when you grew up. That is not really important. You can be rich in other things. Whether I was born rich or poor is not a concern either. Ok actually I grew up in an upper middle class family but I worked my way thru school, both undergrad and post grad and I put three thru school with no help but scholarships they could get. I studied in school as it did not come easy believe me. I chose my path just as you did yours. That does not make me better or worse than you it puts us on equal footing as I see it.
I find it distressing that I have to defend what status I have achieved. I worked bloody hard for it. I have not really depended on anyone for anything. I lost my husband shortly before the third one was born. You know wars and such. I planned exactly what path I would take and worked for my goals. Yes I am a goal setter.
You are entitled to your opinion as I am mine. That is what makes the world go round.

notevayas

PS.. how many of you ladies are cleaning your closets and replacing all your jeans with the the skinny leg jeans? ugh!

Just hooking on here...I just watched Kara Saun's fall collection and loved it...I totally would wear her clothes...but noticed lots of designers (including her) are featuring to-the-waist plunging necklines.

No, I am not cleaning out my closet and putting in skinny jeans. I have hips and can't imagine what I would look like in those skinny jeans, not to mention that they don't look comfy. I wear jeans to be comfy and make sure I have enough to rotate them at the cleaners and still have some onhand.
I am apparently by PR standards, a plus size. I wear a size 10 and am 5'9". Since I'm comfortable in my skin it doesn't bother me what they want to label sizes, I just think it is plain goofy.

I forgot to remove "notevayas" from the bottom of my post. I take full credit or discredit for my responses. It is just how I see it .
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Mummy Dust, since I was called an older academic. Laughing my head off.

I forgot to remove "notevayas" from the bottom of my post.

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Mummy Dust, as I have been called an Older Academic, laughing my head off at that one.

I am resending this post as I can not find where it went on the boards.

Hello everyone!

I just watched the Yahoo clip for Wednesday's show.

At Mood Robert says his client likes red and black and it bothers him that once again he is going to have to deal with boring colors. And then in the work room he says I just don't understand proportion on this kind of body, it scares me.
Jeffery said that with the way his is gong to look he may be going home.
Uli is trying to make hers slim down the client with dark colors and of course uses a pattern.

They don't sound like they are designing for skinny models for sure.


Here is the link to the clip
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/scp_v3/viewer...45724&ch=580397