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khsr109
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AHAHAHAHAHAH i forgot what it was that Vincent said when they were uh... critiquing his dress but he was like when she turns the corner it turns me on something something something else. oh my GOD. it was such a freaky thing to hear from an already creepy guy





Vincent speaks in dated 60s sex metaphors. He needs to stop, because it dates him and makes him sound like he doesn't have a vocabulary. Maybe it's nerves...who knows...but he needs to make a conscious effort to update his language.
ProjectBullSH_T
This show has lost my respect. I've seen every episode of Project Runway. Tonight is the first time I've wanted to stop watching this show. When Heidi announced that Allison was out, over KAYNE AND VINCENT, I freaked. I will never be able to watch this show without spite ever again. And Jeffry got no recognition for how AMAZING his newspaper dress was.

Allison has more talent and style than Kayne, Vincent, Robert, Laura, and Angela put together. She is the reason I was watching this season. Heidi had no good reason to cut her, she was too focused on the hair, which was just "pushing the envelope" just like she claims vincent does. The only difference is vincent has absolutely no taste or talent. He's pathetic. Allison's garments have been inspired and beautiful every time, and Heidi never recognizes it.

The amount of art that Allison put into her dress tonight surpassed Angela's piece of crap and Laura's boring pile. So the fit was a little off, it was still better than Vincents and Kaynes.

I am disgusted with the judges. Just thinking about Heidi's unwarranted hostility towards allisons design makes me sick.

And don't even ask what I think of Micheal winning over Jeffery. This show should be called project tacky. Because thats the sort of design that it rewards. Kayne. Vincent. Angela. Ha.

I'm even more angry that a television show has made me this deeply pissed off.

Oh yeah, and the blue monstrosity that Heidi wore in the beginning of the show made her look thicker than Allisons model looked. At least Allisons dress has a SHAPE. Heidi, you need a new stylist and you need to get some sense slapped into you. You cut the most promising, fresh designer on your show.

And the pam grier thing that you all loved so much was stupid. No one would buy that!
spiritisb
I think Harry Winston is some kind of Jewelry.
kaysie
are the judges off their rocker? what the smell! the only trash seen on the runway was vincent. it got him off? excuse me? he referred his work to child art...thats just creepy. alison should not have been kicked off. she is so much more talented than most. at least her look was wearable, not like the ankle-length model tripping bag of trash. pitiful. alison, get a label soon! i have already taken sketches of your designs to a seamstress! i think you are up their with chloe and stella.
PJR_Fan78
I agree completely! I have not liked one design Vincent has put on the runway! I don't like Laura very much, but I agree that he's a little strange and ready to crack. I also have to give her snaps for speaking her mind to Vincent after the judging.

Allison is an extremely talented designer, and should NOT have been been out for 1 design. It seemed like a lot of them were upset that she was being sent home. I also didn't care for Heidi's snotty comments about the the dress making the model look fat, and that she looked like a "plus size model." There are many people that watch the show that aren't thin, and I think it was asinine to make such "superior" comments. Sorry Heidi, not everyone is a Victoria Secret model!
MPHNYC
Done with this show....if the producers are going to tip the scales for "good" tv, maybe they could be more "innovative" and "creative" and a little less obvious about dumping good designers so they can keep the entertaining ones longer...Remember Santino? At least they now have a caveat in the credits owning up to the fact that the "judges" aren't really the judges after all. I guess what made the show a hit in the first place isn't good enough any more....maybe they were just less obvious in the beginning...Bye Project runway..bye....er....auf wiedersehen. I used to be in..but now...I'm out.
tamarenne
agreed

I am shocked and disappointed that PR has chosen Vincent, the tasteless bottom dweller, over Allison. How many times has Vincent been on the carpet and scraped by? This is Allison's first faux pas and she is out?
I am thinking "who is Vincent related to?" Who does he know that he is always on the brink but never falls into the abyss of bad taste where he so belongs?
PJMNYC2006
I actually think they are all quite talented with the noted exception of Vincent who IS knowledgable of fashion and construction. Angela is better than I think she gets credit for and I think she needs more training. Michael is excellent and may well win but I really think that Jeff deserved to win tonight, even based on the comments in the edit. Laura can be a little too harsh but I will tell you what, she won big points with me tonight because saw that this was a theft and she called it like she saw it. Vinent should have gone first and Alison should still be on. Kayne's dress was the worst of the night without question and I think he all but admitted it . Have a good one. I will watch the final episode but I am done watching the rest. It really is fixed or just badly done and one would have a hard time arguing otherwise after tonight.
jeffreyisthesex
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Jeffrey is angry because his neck is bigger than his waist and he looks like he has down's syndrome.

Poor ugly Jeffrey, spent his whole life getting made fun of so now he has to make big, "artsy", cut-up clothing because he is "deep." And he has to get tattoos all over his neck because he is so "punk."

Whatever Jeffrey, if only your mother had gotten that coat hanger a little further in, we could have given your slot to someone else.




LOL He does look like one of those bobble heads you see in the rear windows of cars. Yeah that's it, a bobble head bug.




dude dont be mad because you get no play
margarita
I love Laura and Micheal's designs from week to week. I think Laura is quite smart enough to be frustrated that Vincent is still there. I think she was about ready to burst when she had to witness Allison leaving and Vincent defending his piece of trash. I have to say that I laugh at alot of the things that she says because they are true. I also think that the pressure is really starting to kick in to where these guys are getting sick of each other.
Marilyn042
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Being a 21 year old who enjoys watching Project Runway, I am quite disappointed in Heidi's remarks on making it seem like being heavy or plus size is a bad thing. I kind of lost respect for her and the show. I guess people like Mia Tyler don't count as models. I'm not sure if Heidi actually reads these posts, but these comments tend to hurt someone like me who is a size 14 and not a size 1.




I really don't think you should take her comment like that. I think she meant that it was bad because she isn't plus size and Heidi thought the outfit made her look plus size.




Thank you!! Everyone's getting way upset over nothing, all she was saying was that the dress added 20 lbs, whether you start out skinny or overweight you still don't want your clothes making you look bigger than you are. Whatever your size, clothing looks much better when it's well tailored to your body, and that dress definitely wasn't.
SisterZip73
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Kayne has been one of my favorites, but he sure is acting like a queenie snot in his interaction with Laura. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and just assume that he's completely stressed (freaking) out because, as he himself admits, his creation is total crap.




I just think that they are under so much stress and Kayne was very worried about going that he just took Laura's comment the wrong way. He and Robert really seem to respect & like her, but I can see where she would get on their nerves.

As much as Vincent scares me and I really REALLLLLLYYYYY don't want him to make it to the final 4 even, he was right with the Harry Winston comment. Laura was mad that Allison was auf'd and she took it out on Vincent. It isn't his fault that the judges did what they did. He's just doing the best he can.
Rupert_G
I don't have time to read all the message boards but i was wondering if anyone has mentioned zoolander yet? That's what this challenge reminded me of.
mainer
agree with you there on the judges....... and i am amazed not one judge has commented to uli that her dresses are all the same that she needs to come up with some other designs in order to stay in, she has god construction, and choice of fabrics but she keeps making the same dress over n over. that isnt a designer. a designer has a collection of different clothes.
will miss allison i picked her to be in the top with michael and laura.
CarolinaGirl
I'm a native North Carolinian...that doesn't make one bit of sense to me. Am pretty dang positive I've never said that in my life. Someone else will need to explain it to all of us!
Jaxxy
I can't not believe Alison got kicked off the show!!! I am outraged that Vincent is still in! He should have been gone day 1! I believe just because he cashed out his 401k he is still in the game. Do the judges feel sorry for this guy because he has NOTHING left? Plz....give someone with real talent a chance. I have watched this show from season one and I feel like PR is totally losing its spark. It feels like the producers run the show by having contestents being super bitchy in order to be "in" and sweet, caring people like Alison are out. Vincent was up on that stage EVERY TIME for horrible garments. Yeah Alison may have done a bad choice but VIncent has done bad choices throughtout the show. I don't think i can watch this show no more.

One more thing I go to fashion school and 99% percent of the fashion classes have women in it. Where are they in this show? There is only 3 left!
spasticunderwear
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I actually think they are all quite talented with the noted exception of Vincent who IS knowledgable of fashion and construction. Angela is better than I think she gets credit for and I think she needs more training. Michael is excellent and may well win but I really think that Jeff deserved to win tonight, even based on the comments in the edit. Laura can be a little too harsh but I will tell you what, she won big points with me tonight because saw that this was a theft and she called it like she saw it. Vinent should have gone first and Alison should still be on. Kayne's dress was the worst of the night without question and I think he all but admitted it . Have a good one. I will watch the final episode but I am done watching the rest. It really is fixed or just badly done and one would have a hard time arguing otherwise after tonight.




Laura lost what few points she had left with me- it's not vincent's fault that alison got kicked out instead of him, it's the judges.
lisakaz
Harry Winston makes major bling (real expensive stuff) for celebs.

Brioche I think is an art term like pastiche. That's the best I can do.
Carole
I am sorry but I don't get all the outrage about the "big" comments. I am not model thin or anything and not a plus size either so I don't think I have a dog in this fight. (Is that Southern enough for ya'll?) But the fashion world is built on very, very, thin models and that is the way it is. So that is the mindset Heidi was working from. She is known for being one of the very few top models who is NOT bone thin so I don't think she has a prejudice against "fat" people, I just think she is coming from a world where, to model clothes, you have to really be thin and it is virtually a sin to have a model look any different. So, "lighten up, it's just fashion."
lazylady
Harry Winston is not just some kind of jewelry, he is jewelry lol. Diamonds, estate jewelry, the kind of jewelry that you can only dream of.

I have an idea.
If we really want to make a statement about the plus size model and fat comments by Heidi tonight I would not waste much time with Bravo TV. I would write, email, and call Victoria's Secret since she is the new TV spokes person for them. There is already a law suit because of her comment of being known as the body by Elle McPherson so this will add fuel to the that fire.
Bravo will only think it is good TV.
Hitting Victoria's Secret in the pocket book and possibly Heidi in the pocket will speak loudly and volumes.
Just an idea, please do not take me out, put me on the bar b que to roast.
damselfly
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As far as people being jealous of Laura; it's not a matter of jealousy, it is a matter of poor manners. Laura is talented, but she is all about herself. She even tried to manipulate and dominate the goodbye time for Allison by starting another raving drama with Vincent. I am glad that Kayne took the attention back to saying goodbye to Allison instead of Laura trying to steal the spotlight. Her fashions are classic and she has talent, but her choice of words are poor taste. I'm sorry, but my mother never talked trash like that about or to other people.




I feel sorry for that woman's children. They have got to be messed up.




That's a bit harsh...comment on her but you have no idea how she is at home with her kids...lets not hold women to differnet standards than men: ie if she's at all strong at work (holding her own, standing up for ideas, right or wrong) that she's like that at home. We all have our competative work face.
PJMNYC2006
Really? You like Vincent? I think he is not a bad guy but he just doesn't seem to have it, if you know what I mean. I respect your opinion.
MissOtis
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Michael won!!!!
What is Harry Winston?
What is brioche?

Answer me





diamonds

a round, puffy bread thing
all4dogs
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Michael is my favorite - - - JEFFREY SHOULD HAVE WON




hell yeah....michael is cool but come on man that was just ridiculous




I couldn't agree more. While Michael is one of my faves, Jeffrey should have one the challenge tonight.
Rupert_G
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I think Harry Winston is some kind of Jewelry.



Is this a joke?
britneeee
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AHAHAHAHAHAH i forgot what it was that Vincent said when they were uh... critiquing his dress but he was like when she turns the corner it turns me on something something something else. oh my GOD. it was such a freaky thing to hear from an already creepy guy





Vincent speaks in dated 60s sex metaphors. He needs to stop, because it dates him and makes him sound like he doesn't have a vocabulary. Maybe it's nerves...who knows...but he needs to make a conscious effort to update his language.




ive never really paid attention to what he says. except tonight. because it creeped my out and that alone [besides his terrible designs] makes me wonder why the hell hes still here.
what metaphors has he used exactly? [please dont take that has a malicious response. im just wondering so i can look out for it]
khsr109
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The more I think about it the more mad I get. Vincent does not deserve to be on the show and his "dress" was by FAR the worst tonight. I'm so SICK of his "Kooky" designs. Tonight was a joke. I think my favorite show just jumped the shark.





I wondered if they'd rushed production and the product wouldn't be as good as seasons one and two. Stupid challenge, stupid judging, stupid argument in the designers' lounge, stupid...there seems to be a motif here...and it's not good. Did they jump the shark? Next week will tell, I guess. I'll go read Tim's Take and see what he says, but I have to say again that I"m underwhelmed by it all.
SisterZip73
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we need more kors. "she looks like a paper brioche". add that to the quote list.




You got it!
elysive
I'm plus size and I think it's silly for a plus size person (or a normal size person for that fact) to watch a show about runway fashion, where the models are usually size 0, and get sensitive about body image. Of course it's outside the realm of real women, but being able to flatter the female form is pretty much imperative one of being a designer, regardless of the size you're designing for.

Bravo honestly shouldn't have to tiptoe around and pretend that "excess" fat is universally attractive in the fashion world.
frallen
I am so disappointed. I do think Alison's outfit was horrible but she has so much potential. They give Vincent and Angela a break every single show and they can't give one to Alison. Vincent and Kayne's were the worst outfits but I guess their more entertaining to keep around. They are definitely not choosing talent. Watch our Uli, you're way to normal and quiet to make it much further.
pj_runaway
kayne's dress was worse than alison's. i'm not saying he should have gone -- vincent should have -- but alison's wasn't the worst dress by far. out of the bottom three, hers was actually the *least* pathetic!

i also think laura's dress sucked. the top was *totally* unflattering, the "joke" was only an inside joke at best, and that flower thing on the side was costumey and fugly. even angela's granny circle things are more appealing than laura's flower.

heidi klum is a brainless airhead. tongue.gif
Marilyn042



Harry Winston was jeweler in NY at one time, i think his son still owns the busines.. Did you ever see the Marilyn Monroe move (name slips my mind0 where she sings Diamonds ARe a Girls Best Friend? she mentions him in that sing.






Gentlemen Prefer Blondes was the movie.
all4dogs
ADMIT YOU MADE A MISTAKE & BRING ALISON BACK!
socaligirl27
Allison was my favorite to win aside from Michael.She was consistant like uli and michael. How come those that did poorly every week are still around like vincent the man stuck in the brady bunch era? a few of them make disaster garments week after week. allisons outfit doesnt look bad to me.its made out of garbage what do they want? thats not fair, i was watching just for allison.:(she has so much potential. after last week when she had to work with keith the cheater out of the picture, i think shes done pretty darn well and shown she can work under any kind of pressure, any type of circumstances. VINCENT SHOULD HAVE GONE, HE DONE POORLY WEEK AFTER WEEK!!!! Thats no fair for allison, she was in my top 3!!! if they had a vote of who to bring back i can guarantee you it would be allison.i hope she makes it big!!! she got jipped!
SisterZip73
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Hey- just because she's bigger then the other models doesn't mean she's fat.




agreed. these people don't know fat. "i'm from the south" and i have seen fat my friends. that ain't fat.




I'm fat...that sillouette was not fat!
ckbragg
Effective Immediately:

We demand the swift and harsh removal of Heidi Klum and her taste (such taste I would designate as bad, but cannot bring myself to even give her taste that much credit).

Although, Michael is the clear choice to take this season's competition; he was obviously not the clear winner tonight.

Moreover, Alison should NOT have lost! I think it is evident that each competition is not judged solely on specific evening's challenge. For if it was, then obviously tattoo neck would have been the winner by a long shot, rather than a close second. And I think we can all agree, if the decision was based entirely on the night's challenge, Kayne is and was the obvious Loser.

But as was proclaimed by the judges during the time of discussion and decision, Kayne, "[knows] how to make clothes."

I say all of this to say Alison should still be with us.

We could easily speak about last challenge (though we will not!), about the consistently poor judging.

May I suffice it to say, the judging can be likened to diabetic food; no taste. Just like Klum's dress and hair-do.

I mean, if nothing else, the judges should have honored Alison's dress for how closely it relates and communicates the style of judging this season.

Today, sadly at challenge six, Heidi is still with us, and regretfully, Alison is not.

Bring back Vera Wang.

Say auf wiedersehen to Mrs. Seal.

Tim Gunn said, "Project Runway is nothing without it's integrity and purpose..."

How can this be true with the current state of judging?

They are far from making it work.

In conclusion:

Michael (a.k.a Kanye to the-) is awesome.

Alison has mad talent and should not have been eliminated based on one not-so-good dress when her others have been above board as well as her style notes.

Tattoo-neck was the obvious winner of this particular challenge.

Laura was slacking in this challenge and really hurt herself with the bad attitude.

401K; I'm glad he stood up for his work. He was proud; We're proud of him.

Michael Kohrs: Keep rolling those eyes, take 401K's advice, and put those Harry Winston's up your nose.

Carry on.

Make it work.
spiritisb
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Michael won!!!!
Heidi "you know you were wrong for that statement"
What is Harry Winston?
What is brioche?
I'm a little S L O W
Do you think next week is going to be plus size models??
or are they going to put the models in plus size suits??

Poor Alison - I must admit her design was awful sorry
Vincent is crazy
Do you think Laura's dress wording something about nuts
was directed towards Vincent??

Answer me





I'm pretty sure sure Harry Winston is a famous Jewelry maker or has something to do with jewelry.
Brioche is a roll baked from light yeast dough rich with eggs and butter! Maybe after they get the landslide of mail they are going to get about Heidi's remark maybe they will do plus size models to make up for it.
krash
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Jeffrey is angry because his neck is bigger than his waist and he looks like he has down's syndrome.

Poor ugly Jeffrey, spent his whole life getting made fun of so now he has to make big, "artsy", cut-up clothing because he is "deep." And he has to get tattoos all over his neck because he is so "punk."

Whatever Jeffrey, if only your mother had gotten that coat hanger a little further in, we could have given your slot to someone else.




Ouch!!!

LOL!!
FashionPookie
I'm part of a Navy Wives Group for my husbands boat. We have book clubs, pot lucks, fund raisers, etc... We also have a program we watch every season. PR has been our show since the first season. It has been very obvious that this season is more about personalities and drama (aka good tv) then it is about talent and fashion. After this episode we have decided to drop PR from are viewing list. There are different wives clubs for different sections. My husband is on gold crew and we have around 200 women/ wives in our wives club. Other clubs on our boat and other boats are feeling the same right about now. PR is not worth a second glance. The judges are not to be taken seriously and I myself have lost all respect for them. So long PR you will not be missed.
subucni
This will be my first and my last post ever, because this is the last episode that I will be watching of Project Runway. I really hope that the producers are proud of their cheap and expected production of this show. One of the saddest things is that the producers will not believe that a good designer is interesting on their own. Instead they keep people like Angela and Vincent on the program for drama value only. It was funny for a while but now they are at the point where they are throwing away great talent to satisfy their taste for "bad taste". The judges are obviously in on this as much as the producers, to keep the dress Angela smacked together in the top half of the contestants is an outrage to the other artists and an insult to the bravo and project runway audience. Great job on pushing away your audience, and knowing that this contest is just a big circus.
SafetyPinndSally
Wonderful idea.

She is supposed to be somewhat of a role model for girls and all she is doing is adding more fuel to the eating disorder fire. True Allison's design made her model look bigger, but maybe Miss Klum should of though out her word choice a little more carefully before spouting off at the mouth.

I am utterly disgusted with her display of ill feelings towards larger girls and the fact that she thinks so highly of herself.
michelle82
And the thing that ticks me off the most is that: what the show is becoming reminds me exactly what our country is becoming.
Is there any integrity left? Why mess something up that is so great for greed and all the other things that ruin everything. To sacrifice integrity, and to sacrifice such a good reputation: a place where people earn where they get in life, who work hard and achieve success from talent, all for a small handful of people to get rich and have power, is SO disappointing!
wannabeme
i cant beleive they voted allison off... first of all if they are basing on past work (like they did wehn they were discussing kayne )then they should do the same for all... vincent is freaky and just plain weird and he has proven this many times... !
allison has shown great potential... hwat re they thinking!!!!!!!!!!
BuddhaDog
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Jeffrey is angry because his neck is bigger than his waist and he looks like he has down's syndrome.

Poor ugly Jeffrey, spent his whole life getting made fun of so now he has to make big, "artsy", cut-up clothing because he is "deep." And he has to get tattoos all over his neck because he is so "punk."

Whatever Jeffrey, if only your mother had gotten that coat hanger a little further in, we could have given your slot to someone else.




Oh, snap!!!
HitandRunway
Well, a couple of days ago, Entertainment weekly complained that the producers of this show exercise their hands too much in order to create drama. If you catch the credits at the end, they run a "disclaimer" saying that the final decision of the judges may be overridden by the producers. It's obvious that in this season, the judges have gone control crazy in order to insure drama, but by manipulating the show they... i.e. keeping vincent, for dramatic reasons, they have soiled the name of Project Runway, and today they kick out Allison, I am dissapointed, and I know that I'm only one viewer, but I am done with this season of Project Runway, I don't care... I may return for next season, but this season has been a total manipulative piece of crap television... and I can probably use the hour to do something more constructive...
delovelyzombie
heidis job on the show is to stand around and be a total idiot.
she doens't even dress well to begin with and shes a model
she looks fat in everything she puts on her body, and shes barely pregnant.
all of her outfits are atrocious so i don't think she even be ALLOWED an opinion on what other people make in short amounts of time.
what does she expect in the first place from these people?
on top of everything:
her catchphrase is stupid.
her jewelry line is the most grotesque & ridiculous thing i've ever seen and anybody wearing it deserves to be laughed at.
frankly,heidi is a moron and makes me sick

this episode was effed up.
i hate project runway now. i tried so hard to still adore it.
first season was so good.
jeffery and micheal are my main men. i hope they make it.
and honestly, they don't even measure up to the talent of austin and jay.
creativity is so lack in this season.
its boring. everything is boring.and complete garbage.
they are given cute challenges, challenges they can really be creative and unique with, and all i see is stuff that can be bought at your local lord and taylor or thrift store.

i think vincent is the smelly kid of the group.
they all know he sucks, but feel bad for him,
so they keep him on.
hes a very special man, i can't wait till he comes out with his own line *pukes*

i think bravo needs to stop worrying so much about ratings and more about fashion.
the clothes and designer quality should be enough to draw viewers in, all they are doing is pissing everyone off.
end of story
Rupert_G
Laura needs to stop wearing the plunging necklines. Her boob was almost popping out during her fight with Vincent!
FoodFanOne
Yes, Vincent's dress was a sack with trash all over it, but if you looked carefully, the lines of the gown were exquisite and the bodice was quite arrestingly cut. In real cloth without the trash doodads, this gown would have been worthy of Laura, Michael, or Kayne. The judges do see something in him, it's just hard for us out in TV land to see it as well.
spasticunderwear
I'm just wondering if anyone else started laughing when Heidi told vincent there's a line between innovation and insanity. I thought it was pretty funny
superkay
them. There is already a law suit because of her comment of being known as the body by Elle McPherson so this will add fuel to the that fire.





so Heidi is calling herself The Body?!! Wishful thinking on her part. That IS Elle McPherson, i think she was modelling years before Heidi but she definitely still is, and always be, The Body!
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