Nan546
August 17, 2006 - 05:27 AM
I agree! Jeffery should have won. Vincent should go.
Kayne should have won the last one. These judges have a blind spot where Michael is concerned. They will make sure he wins.
Javalava
August 17, 2006 - 05:29 AM
Did the final decision come down to whether a person would want to look fat and silly of rail thin and hideous, and thin and hideous won? Does not say much for the fashion industry if looking heavy is more deplorable.
I also thought they were looking for the designers who were more innovative with the materials and yet, the one that changed the appearance of the paper and made interesting shapes lost to the the tube of paper with crap thrown at it. Avant-garde art, it was not. Vincent is a joke and they (the producers) know it. You cannot tell me the judges would let that mess pass a week after telling Robert that he stunk but he is 'In" because they belive in his potential. This means Vincent has more potential than Alison even when he has been near elimination so many times?
As for Robert and Kayne thinking that Laura is a [expletive deleted]...I think they are just jealous that she is the strong, successful woman they have always wanted to be. She tells people what she thinks, and its usually exactly what the judges say.
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August 17, 2006 - 05:29 AM
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jeffrey's trompe l'oeil belt was pure genius! love it!
WTF? Allisons model is not fat. Compared to the others? What, they are a size 0 and she is a size 2 so shes fat? Thats just silly. The judges said the outfit made her look big, they didnt say the model was fat. Geesh,
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courtesi
August 17, 2006 - 05:33 AM
I don't know why, but I love Jeffrey! Yes, he may have an attitude problem but I love what the man puts out. Even if you want to kill this guy because of his attitude, regardless, he should have won last night. Plain and simple. I have NOTHING against Michael but Jeffrey should have won that challenge. I also think he should have won the prior weeks challenge when they were neck and neck with the other team despite having 1 less person on their team.
I really hope at the end if Jeffrey is still there and teams are formed with aufed cast members that Allison comes back so they can come up with something to crush everybody.
PS: If the Producers aren't drinking the punch they should really step in and fix things. heh, this could even create more D-r-a-m-a for the show.
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August 17, 2006 - 05:33 AM
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Hey- just because she's bigger then the other models doesn't mean she's fat.
agreed. these people don't know fat. "i'm from the south" and i have seen fat my friends. that ain't fat.
what is with everyone being "from the south"? does anyone in the rest of the country watch this show... or is everyone, at some point, from the south?
p.s. GO MICHAEL. Thank goodness Jeffrey didn't win..
Its a southern thing, you wouldnt understand. Im originally from KY and I do the "Im from the south" thing all the time. Its like the word hun or sugar or yall, it just slips into our conversation and we dont even realize it it.
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August 17, 2006 - 05:33 AM
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Does anyone want to comment on not only the plus size thing but how about Micheal Khors saying 2 times that he didn't expect that from a female designer. So wait, Vincent wrapping a woman in a tube that she couldn't walk in the standard woman's dress shoe...heels can be overlooked because he's a man but Allison having to deal with a model who doesn't have a waist ( speaking as a woman whose waist is nonexistant) is unacceptable because why? She should know better. Well listen folks, I read magazine (almost evry magazine) and in those "How too help your body by..." sections they almost never help women whose bodies look like mens...BUT Allison was suppose to solve that in this episode...Well, come on Allison, work a miracle....(that was sarcasim if you missed it)
I actually think that just an episode or two ago MK made the exact opposite comments - something to the effect that she knows how to design for the female body (of course I could be thinking of someone else as he has made that comment before). It's pretty apparent at this point that the judges are only voting for ratings. Proof? Sending Allison home and keeping Vincent. I think Michael is great and I like to see him win but did not feel he should have won this time around.
Also, I am curious if I am the only person that thinks "Waste Not, Want Not" is nothing more than a second version of the first episode where they recycled anything and everything they could take from their apartment. Same deal - just a different way to show you can recycle!
As far as the weight comments - the "judges" really need to look at the model - she certainly is not over weight and could by no stretch of the imagination be considered a plus size. If she was - so be it - but she isn't - so now we will see another person that thinks she has to binge and purge in order to work. Do people really think that women showing their chest bones, collar bones, knee bones, etc. is anymore healthy than being overweight? Thin is one thing - anorextic (sp)is another.
And I am kinda of wondering who the heck is making those clothes that Heidi is wearing? It would be fun if we could vote on her outfits. Actually I guess it wouldn't be too good to vote off the host of the show. : )
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August 17, 2006 - 05:37 AM
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I am sorry but I don't get all the outrage about the "big" comments. I am not model thin or anything and not a plus size either so I don't think I have a dog in this fight. (Is that Southern enough for ya'll?) But the fashion world is built on very, very, thin models and that is the way it is. So that is the mindset Heidi was working from. She is known for being one of the very few top models who is NOT bone thin so I don't think she has a prejudice against "fat" people, I just think she is coming from a world where, to model clothes, you have to really be thin and it is virtually a sin to have a model look any different. So, "lighten up, it's just fashion."
I also think being German, she doesn't always use her English in the most elegant way. Things come out more bluntly than a native-English speaker would say them.
I've traveled frequently in Germany, and I love my German friends, but one thing I have learned to live with is that Germans tend to be very direct and/or blunt when speaking.
they call it as they see it, so to speak, and that can come across as rude, or insensitive.
cantsew
August 17, 2006 - 05:42 AM
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Done with this show....if the producers are going to tip the scales for "good" tv, maybe they could be more "innovative" and "creative" and a little less obvious about dumping good designers so they can keep the entertaining ones longer...Remember Santino? At least they now have a caveat in the credits owning up to the fact that the "judges" aren't really the judges after all. I guess what made the show a hit in the first place isn't good enough any more....maybe they were just less obvious in the beginning...Bye Project runway..bye....er....auf wiedersehen. I used to be in..but now...I'm out.
I'm reading the posts and adding a few of my own and not that anyome cares - but I'm out also. Sometimes we all need a reality check - sending Allison home and keeping Vincent was my reality check.
hoopoe
August 17, 2006 - 05:43 AM
I was proud of Uli this week.. I didn't consider it a typical "Uli dress"
I was delighted to see Uli make a dress without a halter neckline! I thought she really used the materials well- that braided skirt was really lovely
hoopoe
August 17, 2006 - 05:46 AM
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Vincents dress looked like someone let a little kid loose in a scrapbook store with scissors and glue!!!
As much as I disliked Santino, at his worst day Santino was much better than almost anything Vincent has come up with so far.
Santino could be incredibly irritating, but he is truly creative and talented. I have not thought that any of Vincent's designs are particularly creative or attractive. when I think about his designs, it's because of what I didn't like about each one. What are the judges thinking of?
Sharis
August 17, 2006 - 05:49 AM
I had that thought also, we are all angry enough to write but that may be a good thing in the producers eyes. Long term I think not. I think what drew us to the show was the honesty. The last elimination did not compute logically. Allison has performed well in all previous challenges, she had a bad day. Vincent has been in the bottom three almost every time. If passed performance was considered for Kane, who lost it on this one, then why not consider it for Allison and Vincent. Allison would have been in hands down. Overall I am not as happy with this season as the previous ones. My advice to the producers is to keep the integrity and forget the drama ...it's what made this show work in the first place.
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August 17, 2006 - 05:50 AM
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Whatever Jeffrey, if only your mother had gotten that coat hanger a little further in, we could have given your slot to someone else.
That really is offensive.
I Absolutely Agree.
I don't care for Jeffery but that is way over the line. jmo
Way, way over the line. You don't like Jeffrey, leave it at that.
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August 17, 2006 - 05:54 AM
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alison's getting a raw deal. she can't help it that her model is fat!!
FAT??????
Her model is not fat.
That was my point.
Sharis
August 17, 2006 - 05:57 AM
I does seem like a joke doesn't it. If a gorgeous woman like that is called fat then what hope do the rest of us have! It's almost like they made up some reason to get rid of Allison and keep Vincent.
damselfly
August 17, 2006 - 06:04 AM
Just listened to Tim's podcast for the week. He seems really annoyed by the decision. He puts in some comments to make it sound like he's ok but the underlying tone is the he didn't agree. He said he couldn't even look at Vincent in the back room. He also says that he stood outside and listened to the fight and that Laura was one of many designers talking about how the model couldn't walk and that it was really bad. She was just the one he snapped at so the editors must have just chosen her for the sake of piecing in the fight.
brillke
August 17, 2006 - 06:08 AM
Wow, looks like everyone, most everyone,is as outraged by tonights show as I am. Ive only read about 200 post so far and no time today to catch up,its kindergarten registration day,but I promise to catch up tomorrow.
Well, I was very disappointed by Heidis plus size comment. Also, whoever is Heidis stylist,they should be fired.
I would love to see the designers get to make clothes instead of costumes.
Why is Vincent still on the show? Any kind words I had for Vincent in the past are in the past. Im getting tired of him squeaking by. His dress was pure BS. His additude sucked. Someone on this board says they know him and he really is a nice guy. Sorry, but he is just a PITA IMO. Get rid of Vncent already.
Poor Allison. Wasnt a fan of her work but she did not deserve to go last night.
Love Michael and he is still my favorite and congrats on the win but I really think Jefferys dress was the best. Maybe the judges are feeling guilty about all the times they overlooked Michaels amazing work and are trying to make it up to him. Michaels dress was #2 and Jefferys was the best. I cant stand Jeffery but he was robbed.
Both Angela and Ulis were forgettable. Didnt yall just love Michael stopping Angela from doing her dance? It was so funny. The "oh honey please stop your killing me" look was side splitting.
Lauras dress was simple but perfectly made. Love the nut thing on the back. That women can sew! Kudos to Laura for standing up for Allison. I was glad she let Vincent know he should have been the one gone,not Allison. The mother in her had to say it. Laura is still one of my favorites.
Kaynes dress wasnt great but there wasnt much great about this challenge. Kudos to Kayne for trying to allow Allison a few last moments with her friends before she left. Thats the southern coming out again.
Robert, I loves ya but I dont even remember your dress.Come on you hot hunk of gayness, wake up!
Oh, btw, I will shove some Harry Winstons up my nose if I can keep them afterwords. After a de-boogering nobody will know they were up my nose.
The one thing I kinda liked about this challenge was WM involvement. My dad, the retired coal miner, works at WM part time. He says he works because he got bored with retirement. I say he works because he didnt want to spend the entire day with my mom,lol. Ive seen that WM vest and hat so many times. Was strange seeing the designers wearing them.
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August 17, 2006 - 06:09 AM
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I don't understand this incessant need to pick at Laura...I'm thinking there's a touch of jealousy there. She already has a good job and a family. It feels like that might be getting under the skin of those just starting out or who are unhappy in their life...come on she's not that bad...I mean she's no Wendy....
I ADORE Laura! She's been among my favorites from the first challenge. She's still in my top 3 (along with Michael and Allison). I know a lot of folks think her designs are boring, but I love her classy look and impeccable tailoring skills. It really tickles me when she comes out with an (expletive) or two, especially when she's talking about Jeffrey or Vincent.
I love her, too. But her timing was very poor at the end... talking about Vincent's dress when Allison was saying her goodbyes. Of course, as usual, we don't know how this scene was edited, so who's to say what prompted her remark.
I agree Laura is great. I am a huge fan of Laura and Angela (my favorite) I despise Vincent for the no talent hack he is.
I despise Jeffrey just because he is Jeffrey. I really wouldn't care if he spun thread into Gold and if his model came out looking like she descended from heaven I wouldnt pick him.
I cannot imagine how he could be more obnoxious but I can well believe if he ever won a challenge he would probably grow horns and a pentagram would sprout on his chest and that would be that.
Tim is saying on his podcast that Vincent should have lost as if we didnt know.
Not sure if I will continue watching the show now.
givntak
August 17, 2006 - 06:14 AM
I like that Laura is giving as good as she gets. There seems to be a real hate the female designer thing going on this season. I think they are just trying to find a weakling to wear down. This week Laura appears to be their target and instead of folding she ripped them as hard as they tried to rip her. You go girl!
BTW, what's with the "character questioning" response that seems to be so popular? I see why Kayne likes beauty pageants ... his little comment to Laura was so bitchy beauty queen. Perhaps just nerves from his little green wreck of a dress.
damselfly
August 17, 2006 - 06:19 AM
Everyone can be pissed at Laura all they want but she pointed out the problems with the pieces...I think Kayne was just sure he was facing the firing squad and didn't want to back down to anyone. Laura was just the easy target. She backed off, not because he told her off, she just didn't expect that kind of attitude.
love2paint
August 17, 2006 - 06:20 AM
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Boy, at least 50 people tonight have proclaimed that they will never watch this show again.
Face it, you're emotionally invested in this show. And, you'll watch it next week. Secretly, you know it is true. Bravo knows it, too. They've done a good job of setting the hook and are now reeling you in.
I think this season has been masterfully constructed, filmed and edited. The proof of the pudding is that we are all so into it much earlier this season than in past seasons. Bravo to you, Bravo.
Regarding this season: I'm tired of the non-fashion challenges. I watch this to see talented people create. So far, 3 of the 6 challenges have been non-fashion, IMO.
We already were treated to a innovation challenge using room materials. That was bad enough, but at least there were fabrics there. Designing for dogs? Please! And now, another innovation challenge?
I could slap the judges for making statements about the results looking like kids arts & crafts projects. Or MK when he sniffed that only Jeffery's "moved".
If you tell car designers to design a car using fabrics, don't get all prissy when you get a soft car.
I would like to see challenges about designing real clothes. The challenges don't have to be clever (post office). Just let these artists use real materials and let us see what they can do.
legendaryface
August 17, 2006 - 06:25 AM
What do you mean they have a blind spot where Michael is concerned? They will make sure he wins? Please! Michael has been the most consistent designer on PR this season. Every challenge his designs have been worthy of the top three or win. They don't need to give Michael anything sweetie. Granted Jeff had one good challenge but his clothes have been garbage before this episode. Perhaps many of you lost sight of what this challenge was about. Perhaps you guys need to take a closer look at Michaels garment. The frayed edges the flawless make and detail. But I do understand that most of you on this site still buy off the rack so I won’t bother to debate or make you understand high fashion.
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Me too. ALL of these designs looked like garbage, really. ): WTF, Jeffery. Diabetic foods?
I think Jeffrey is starting to get just a little bit bitter that he hasn't won a challenge yet. One minute i like him cause he's actually laughing and then he opens his mouth and he spews .
Can't wait till next week, the Everday Woman?? Who was that shadow??
From the reaction of Andrea I think it is a friend or relative of each designer.
My first thought was Hillary Clinton but I bet they design for their moms
mollym
August 17, 2006 - 06:29 AM
Of course they kicked of Alison - she is adorable & normally makes great clothes, she is most likely going to be a great designer very soon- Vincent is a has-been - he quit at the height of career because of pressure? I hate that Curt Kobain cop out -he is crazy, his garmets are crap & he is a train wreck - he keeps getting his grill on the soup & best week ever- Im sure in the end Vincent will end up either on MORE antidepressants or commited - good luck Alison, I'm sure we will see your line soon! BTW Alison's model may not have been a size -2 but she is by no means "fat" I would say the t
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August 17, 2006 - 06:29 AM
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Absolutely, she is the kind of emasculating witch that made them switch in the first place.
lazylady
August 17, 2006 - 06:29 AM
Has anyone noticed how many posts are from new people since last night's show?
PR at least stirred the blood of some enough to voice an opinion for the first time on here.
damselfly
August 17, 2006 - 06:33 AM
First of all, if you post, you should be willing to interect and debate. Second, I think thats a bit of a judgement saying that NOBODY here knows high fashion...you don't know who these people are. Yes many come on to rant and leave but some people (ahem) actually want to listen to what others have to say.
Third, I do agree with you about Micheal. He's obviously one of the only designers who like the female body. His clothes have very femine lines, with a nice focus on the curves of the bustline and hips. I am struggling with people likin Jeffery. He makes tents and last night was one too a circus ten.
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August 17, 2006 - 06:34 AM
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FIRST OF ALL THIS IS NOT THE EASIEST WEBSITE TO LEAVE A MESSAGE.
I agree!!! I can't figure out how to post my own message, I have only figured out how to reply!!
For sure. This website is SO primitive. It's like a time warp back to 10 years ago.
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August 17, 2006 - 06:37 AM
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Jeffrey is angry because his neck is bigger than his waist and he looks like he has down's syndrome.
Poor ugly Jeffrey, spent his whole life getting made fun of so now he has to make big, "artsy", cut-up clothing because he is "deep." And he has to get tattoos all over his neck because he is so "punk."
Whatever Jeffrey, if only your mother had gotten that coat hanger a little further in, we could have given your slot to someone else.
Oh, snap!!!
Oh yeah, double snap!!! Those are the most witty and insightful insults I've heard about anybody or anything in a long time. Kudos.
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August 17, 2006 - 06:37 AM
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Wrong. We clearly saw one about the size of a large olive. Geez, with all that money she can't get a proper boob job? If she can get all that botox, and what looks to be fat sucked from some other body part and injected into those fakey-looking overly round cheeks, then why the heck isn't she getting those little cupcake hooters fixed, too?
LOL!! I was wondering if anyone else had picked up on that...one more millimeter and we would have been able to see just what kind of olives she has under there.. kalamata, perhaps?
I can't say that I thought Alison was the best designer on the show but I don't think she deserved to go last night. And though I truly think Jeffery has got some serious attitude problems, I think he should have won. No offense to Michael, though, because he's one of my faves.
Seems like Vincent is headed to the final three...unfortunately. No matter how awful his designs are, he remains. However, I don't think he'll win. I think he's there for drama, not talent. Why else would he have been in the bottom 2 or three on several challenges and still be there?? If I'm not mistaken, this was Alison's first time to be in the bottom. I hate it when spoilers seem to be right...
legendaryface
August 17, 2006 - 06:42 AM
First of all reading is fundamental. Why don't you go back to my post and read it thoroughly. I never made the comment that nobody here knows high fashion, I said most of you don't. That's a big difference darling. I make assumptions of taste by what I read from posters on this site. Like I stated before most that come here don't understand high fashion.
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August 17, 2006 - 06:42 AM
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Kayne should have won the last one. These judges have a blind spot where Michael is concerned. They will make sure he wins.
You're right about Michael. Kayne should have won last week. A lot of work went into the dress he did. Michael did a pair of shorts and a halter top, BFD. Last night, Uli's & Angela's dresses where a lot more creative than Michael's. Michael is clearly becoming the judges favorite
MizLee
August 17, 2006 - 06:43 AM
Must agree about Vincent. Every week he turns out nutty crap. Crazy and creative are not the same thing. Once again, a good designer is sent packing for having one design that doesn't quite meet her usual standard, when they keep this guy on show after show after show. I can only think that the producers want to keep the crazy guy on because they think it keeps the show interesting. He should have been sent home at the end of the first episode.
lyfenlyn
August 17, 2006 - 06:43 AM
I had to say this was a pins and needles episode- pun intended. I was surprized that Michael won the challenge. I was sure that Jeffry would walk away with that one for sure. Michaels is my pic, and I love him but Jeffrey rocked the spot hands down. You will see that even in the rate the runway area on the PR site. Jeffrey scored higher than Michael with viewers. AND not to [expletive deleted], but VINCENT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ELIMINATED!!!! NOT ALLISON!!!! Also reflected in the runway viewer polls with the scores. Vincent scored lower than Allison. I suppose it is bigger sin to dress an already "zaftig" (whatever, the chic is normal) model as minnie mouse. I think she should have been forgiven, because afterall the challenge was in GARBAGE! The judges should have taken that into consideration. Vincent on the other hand could have injured his model with his disgusting contraption. I HATE THAT DRESS!
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August 17, 2006 - 06:45 AM
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As far as people being jealous of Laura; it's not a matter of jealousy, it is a matter of poor manners. Laura is talented, but she is all about herself. She even tried to manipulate and dominate the goodbye time for Allison by starting another raving drama with Vincent. I am glad that Kayne took the attention back to saying goodbye to Allison instead of Laura trying to steal the spotlight. Her fashions are classic and she has talent, but her choice of words are poor taste. I'm sorry, but my mother never talked trash like that about or to other people.
I feel sorry for that woman's children. They have got to be messed up.
That's a bit harsh...comment on her but you have no idea how she is at home with her kids...lets not hold women to differnet standards than men: ie if she's at all strong at work (holding her own, standing up for ideas, right or wrong) that she's like that at home. We all have our competative work face.
Agreed 100% Laura is sick of the rudeness and bad manners she sees and she is talking back. She is not Jeffrey telling others openly she dislikes them, she is not wishing others death by heart attack or telling everyone she is better than them as Jeffrey is.
She is not like any of the men who call the women feminazis if they show an inkling of fight. EVERYBODY loved Laura until she started fighting back like Angela has done from the beginning. Now she and Angela are attacked by the dizzy queens on the show and everyone on the board.
The day they are 5% as rude as the boys I will be sad for them but that day is far off.
gandm
August 17, 2006 - 06:45 AM
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PR at least stirred the blood of some enough to voice an opinion for the first time on here.
I noticed!! I started reading a few pages back and it's newbie after newbie after newbie!! Bravo must be doing something right to generate all this reaction. And calling for boycotts already?!?!!!! Yeah, right. We're all gonna stop watching now...NOT! Bravo was able to do the same thing with TC, but it was more towards the finale than in the middle of the season...
damselfly
August 17, 2006 - 06:48 AM
I apologize for the miss quote...but I don't think you got the true point...Like I've now gotten with the darling thing...I don't think you need to understand high fashion to comment on it just like I don't think you have to have taken art history or appreciation in college to know what you like and what you don't....right?...I'll leave it at that then...
givntak
August 17, 2006 - 06:50 AM
Here's my read from tacky 80's designer crazy statement to Laura (understand, I'm trying to translate from crazy so there might be an idiom with which I'm unfamiliar)...
Harry Winston is a jewelry designer famous for diamonds.
Diamonds are also known as rocks.
Rock is also a code word for Cocaine.
Vincent told Laura to go snort ... insulting her for doing drugs? (this is where I'm sure there's a 70's or 80's outdated drug culture reference that I'm missing)
Why is Vincent still on the show?
brillke
August 17, 2006 - 06:51 AM
"Concentration Camp Chic has been in for a while now, so industry people don't even know how to judge a real womans body anymore."
As harsh as the above statement sounds, it is so true. If you dont look like you are moments away from death and your internal organs are probably shutting down, then your fat. Im fat and would never want to look as glamorous as what is considered beautiful today.
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Cutvincent
August 17, 2006 - 06:56 AM
Yes i called for a boycott. And yes i know it probably wont happen. However, if ratings are down next week, the producers won't pull that again. They do things like that because they think that they can get away with it. We let them get away with it. Watch something else, dont tivo it. Boycott!! Cut Vincent Runway and bring back Malan and Alison.
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August 17, 2006 - 07:01 AM
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The day they are 5% as rude as the boys I will be sad for them but that day is far off.
Actually, I think that Kayne and Robert respect Laura and really just make fun of her because she is someone who can laugh at herself and dish it right back to them. (remember in Mood when she slammed their choice of fabric and they slammed her right back?? you don't do that with someone you don't like or who is confrontational).
Notice they don't do the same with -- say Jeffery -- because Jeffery can't laugh at himself and would cause a nasty fight.
Anyway, Kayne and Robert have actually praised Laura -- for being able to do it all -- marriage, kids, career (that was from an interview they did).
Piney
August 17, 2006 - 07:02 AM
I went to bed upset thinking about the injustice of Allison getting kicked off and Vincent staying in this episode. Thought I'd be over it this morning, but no. I've disagreed with the judges several times this season, they seem to be more interested in hearing themselves talk than in the previous two seasons - they're just losing focus.
Allison's design wasn't the best, but at least she created some structural interest. Vincent's cardboard sleepingbag was not "designed". It took far less thought and had even less shape than Allison's. I'm very upset about this and may have to stop watching the show. The judges are just wrong this season.
brillke
August 17, 2006 - 07:03 AM
"I wondered if they'd rushed production and the product wouldn't be as good as seasons one and two. Stupid challenge, stupid judging, stupid argument in the designers' lounge, stupid...there seems to be a motif here...and it's not good. Did they jump the shark? Next week will tell, I guess. I'll go read Tim's Take and see what he says, but I have to say again that I"m underwhelmed by it all. "
It was written several times that the show could suffer with such as rushed production. I was like naw, Pr is too good and they could do nothing to screw it up. Boy, was I wrong. Id rather they wait and take the time to do a good show rather then sink to the level of the normal reality show. I feel bad for Tim Gunn. He has stood by the show and always acted with integrity but how hard must that be for him this season? We see so little of him and with so many damn Macys commercials and product placement I feel most of the shows integrity was sold to the highest bidder. IMO Tim Gunn is the lone source of integrity left on PR and they are fazing him out it seems,
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nykolus
August 17, 2006 - 07:03 AM
if i didn't care as much about this show as i do, last night would've done it for me. the decision was ridiculously unbefreakinlievable. i'm still pissed thinking about it. PR has lost any integrity it ever had by aufing alison over (shudder) vincent. it just proves what everyone has been saying all along about 'reality' tv.
you guys seriously screwed up.
it's gonna be hard to keep watching at this point.
nonetheless...
good on ya, michael! so, so glad he beat that smug, entitled, arse jeffrey.
go laura! still my luv, although, IMO, she should've directed her anger at the judges & producers intead of (shudder) vincent.
kayne should be on his knees thanking cher he did not get sent home.
angeedee
August 17, 2006 - 07:05 AM
I must agree, MizLee.
I am continually puzzled by the judge's blindness to vincent's messes.
That sheath was the most ill-fitting thing we have seen all season, I believe. His model had to wear her own bra under it. she couldn't walk in it. and she looked like she had just arisen from sleeping in a dumpster.
two weeks ago, Katherine was sent home for a 'too-simple' dress. but vincent made only a black tank dress. at least KG's dress had some interest.
what on earth is keeping vincent here?
was it his looney-tunes batwing evening gown?
his nut-job baskethat?
how about that twiggy dress? looked like a middle-school home ec project gone awry.
Allison's dress was interesting, at least. and it fit. and i'm not sure i like the implication that she was sent home because she made her model look like a normal person vs. a heroin-chic beanpole.
no one who knows a thing about construction could compare vincent's products so far with any of allison's.
what is going on here?
cantsew
August 17, 2006 - 07:06 AM
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Whatever Jeffrey, if only your mother had gotten that coat hanger a little further in, we could have given your slot to someone else.
That really is offensive.
I Absolutely Agree.
I don't care for Jeffery but that is way over the line. jmo
Way, way over the line. You don't like Jeffrey, leave it at that.
No reason for a comment like that.
pj_runaway
August 17, 2006 - 07:08 AM
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it's all relative, people. compared to the others, she's fat.
jeffrey's trompe l'oeil belt was pure genius! love it!
WTF? Allisons model is not fat. Compared to the others? What, they are a size 0 and she is a size 2 so shes fat? Thats just silly. The judges said the outfit made her look big, they didnt say the model was fat. Geesh,
brillke
do you understand the phrase, "compared to the others?"
if all the models were 6'1" and one of them was 5"10, would you be wrong to say she was short compared to the others? no. does that mean she is "real world" short? no.
it's the same thing in this case. it's just a word. get over it.
FoodFanOne
August 17, 2006 - 07:08 AM
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Also, I am curious if I am the only person that thinks "Waste Not, Want Not" is nothing more than a second version of the first episode where they recycled anything and everything they could take from their apartment. Same deal - just a different way to show you can recycle!
I saw the rip and tear of the apartment as equivalent to the "Clothes Off Our Backs" challenge from last season and this recycled materials challenge as the equivalent of the garden party challenge last season. Each one was a test of true creativity using unconventional materials within a very tight timeframe.
brillke
August 17, 2006 - 07:09 AM
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This show has lost my respect. I've seen every episode of Project Runway. Tonight is the first time I've wanted to stop watching this show. When Heidi announced that Allison was out, over KAYNE AND VINCENT, I freaked. I will never be able to watch this show without spite ever again. And Jeffry got no recognition for how AMAZING his newspaper dress was.
Allison has more talent and style than Kayne, Vincent, Robert, Laura, and Angela put together. She is the reason I was watching this season. Heidi had no good reason to cut her, she was too focused on the hair, which was just "pushing the envelope" just like she claims vincent does. The only difference is vincent has absolutely no taste or talent. He's pathetic. Allison's garments have been inspired and beautiful every time, and Heidi never recognizes it.
The amount of art that Allison put into her dress tonight surpassed Angela's piece of crap and Laura's boring pile. So the fit was a little off, it was still better than Vincents and Kaynes.
I am disgusted with the judges. Just thinking about Heidi's unwarranted hostility towards allisons design makes me sick.
And don't even ask what I think of Micheal winning over Jeffery. This show should be called project tacky. Because thats the sort of design that it rewards. Kayne. Vincent. Angela. Ha.
I'm even more angry that a television show has made me this deeply pissed off.
Oh yeah, and the blue monstrosity that Heidi wore in the beginning of the show made her look thicker than Allisons model looked. At least Allisons dress has a SHAPE. Heidi, you need a new stylist and you need to get some sense slapped into you. You cut the most promising, fresh designer on your show.
And the pam grier thing that you all loved so much was stupid. No one would buy that!
Well, they did have Jeffery in the top 3 and told him he was just edged out, not sure the exact quote, so they did acknowledge him. I love Michael but I agree, Jeffery,whom I cant stand,should have won.
Michaels Pam Grier outfit was amazing and a perfect for the icon challenge. BTW, someone does want to buy the outfit. Check out the auction portion of this site.
brillke
gandm
August 17, 2006 - 07:09 AM
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Yes i called for a boycott. And yes i know it probably wont happen. However, if ratings are down next week, the producers won't pull that again. They do things like that because they think that they can get away with it. We let them get away with it. Watch something else, dont tivo it. Boycott!! Cut Vincent Runway and bring back Malan and Alison.
Are you kidding?? The producers won't do that again??? HELLO!!! The show has already been shot!!! It's already decided who the final three are...and they're currently getting their collections ready for their shows in Bryant Park -- which are next month. So, really, it's a matter of deciding who will win the whole thing...not individual challenges leading up to the final three.
Sheesz....boycotting sure didn't harm Top Chef...in fact, there's going to be a season two....
Sharis
August 17, 2006 - 07:10 AM
Thanks for the tip ....I had never listened to the podcasts. You are right Tim totally supported what most of the people on this board think. Allison had a much better performance record and it was surprising Vincent made it. Doesn't make sense to me.
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