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Thank you, JG....my personal schlepper (I really have gone Hollywood!). Raindog: I hope you enjoy it. I'd love to hear what you think of it, but remember...I'm a delicate, sensitive little flower. (Yeah, right!!)

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JG- could you schelp it over here,too, please?

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Oh, great....NOW I see this post after I made a big fool of myself on another thread.....sorry, my bad!

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... Now here's where I stop being redundant; we also don't know much about the boys themselves. I mean, we only know the little bits and pieces we get from the show and some articles and some interviews. The rest we can only guess at. ...

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Jaided1: I forgot to warn you....it's 39 pages.

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It's okay for people to say Kyan's Greg is hot, it's socially acceptable. And I'd feel comfortable saying it to Kyan in a more tactful way. But if say I don't think Thom's Greg is good looking how is that different? Aren't I just rating looks? I think the difference is because it's generally not socially acceptable. I decided to take a chance saying it here. I would Never say it to Thom. I'd flat out lie and compliment Greg.

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Second hint is one of his famous quotes: "He's neurotic. He's needy. He's just like all the guys I date." I don't think he was kidding about that. Exaggerating probably, but sometimes he just blurts things out.

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But as far as being happy for him just because he's in a relationship, I couldn't do that unless he told me he was happy himself. I'm way too much of a worrier to assume that he's happy. And at the very same time enough of an optimist to hope he is. Same as when anyone I love goes into a relationship.

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If at any point I sounded defensive. I'm honest to ghod not. I love that we can discuss this. And I appreciate so much that everyone who's disagreed with me has done it in such kind way.

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She doesn't consider herself good looking. She wouldn't play it like that at all.

Remember Charlize Theron in Monster? I'd never seen her before, so when I saw her do the red carpet afterwards I was floored. Claire won't look like a model in the movie. She doesn't have the ego of being afraid if her hair wasn't in place kind of thing.

Maybe I'll look for another movie that's she's been in that's more like Devon, but that's not easy. None of the movies that's she played a large role in have done well at the box office. She's relatively unknown, which is one the qualities I was looking for.

If she can do what she did in a movie like Mallrats, I know she's got potential. I've put a lot of effort into this, I really think she's the one.

Isa
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I'm a total Carson(CIT) fan.It's for more than the one liners(which I quote at many moments and nobody gets) but I love his personality and sense of self.Plus the edge is a huge plus for me.

A close second is both Kyan and Ted.Ok I will be honest and admit I do drool a little over Kyan looks wise and Ted is just the smart type I seem to like

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Heads up: Carson is going to be on Good Morning America on Monday (Jan 31, 7am).

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hey Nat!!! yeah i agree, it's good to meet soooo many people who ALLL love the boys!!! i'm not alone in my obsession!!!!! re your friend ... that sounds really hard. it's so hurtful when friends turn on you after so long. i had a gemini friend like that and it really hurt but ce la vie! i wish her well too and i'm grateful for all the fun times we had. that's what i think we need to hold on to.

well ... till next time Nat! i am so all over the place with posts - i can never keep up! how often do you check and post??? i have to get better!
*hugz* xo

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Okay, since I'm still getting to know everyone, I was wondering who people's favorite fab fiver's are and why. Personally, it's really hard to choose because I love them all, but if pressed I guess my favorite fab fiver is Kyan because he's so sweet.

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Jai and Ted equally. The dancing and singing. I still love Ted's dance scene from the John S. episode in the kitchen! It was just so random and perfect!

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Now ladies, ladies...yes, I must admit it is Thom.
There is such a long distance between he and I.
Distance divides unlike the multiplication of love.
You can't deny the feeling when love has captured you.

TTB

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TTB, I love your website. I have to admit that I took a peek at the "For my husband, Thom" section and I laughed and I cried. It was a wonderful story! Its just beautiful. Have you thought about sending that to Thom? I think he'd love it.

JG

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I have an autographed picture of Thom (with the XO, too and I'm looking at it right now!!) which was a gift from a wonderful, fabulous, amazing, generous friend.....and you know who you are!!! But thank you for letting us know....you do such a great job of spotting those items on Ebay!

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You know I'm so glad someone brought this up....or maybe it's just that my mind always runs in this direction.....but I have to agree with tomasulo....maybe he's "great in the sack"!!! I think they look good together....I wasn't really getting a great feeling about him in the beginning...but he's kind of grown on me...and anyway, if Thom's happy with him, that's all that matters....I just wish we could see some pictures of them together....I miss Thom!


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Tomasulo, I've been wanting to ask you this forever - can I read the screenplay?? Please, please, please???? My email is in my profile!

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I think your Ted, is the "daddy" of the group.
B/c of what he said of after Kyan took that fox tongue out and Jai w/ the pacificer.
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The times I used a Carson one liner I just get looks of "What the..." and I've used a few Ted quotes as well.

Dumb question alert: which epsiode was Ted hit by the corkscrew?

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YAAAY!!! So now you're also a TeDelicious, JG?!? I understand if Jai comes first to you, but I'm sooo glad that I'm not the only one who could see and fall in love with that cute little Teddy's kitchen dance!!! Aaaawww, it was soooo adorable!!! :-) Perfect, like you said! Yay!!! *jumping up and down*

Huggies>>>>> NAT*-*

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Heeey!!! Can anyone post here a few Teddy's quotes?!?

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He seems to be such a grown up and adult man, with adult thoughts and everything, pretty mature and I love it! hehe *sighs*
But all the jokes and stuff, I think it's all part of their friendship...!
Huggies>>>>> NAT*-*

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... He seems to be such a grown up and adult man, with adult thoughts and everything, pretty mature and I love it!

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Okay, time to put on my 'notevayas' hat. Excuse me, but all 5 of these guys are grown up adult men, not Ken dolls, not teen idols. Each of them has had and continues to have careers in the 'real' world--Thom's design studio, Ted's writing for gourmet cooking magazines, Kyan's work in styling, Carson's work with Ralph Lauren and Jai's stage work.
It is fine to fantasize about them and it's fun to admire and adore them because they are unique people. But come on, we're not going to sleep with them and we're not goint to impact their lives with discussions/decisions about their partners.
'so sez' SignLadyB

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Heey, TTB!!! Can you give me the address to this website too? I'm sorry, I know you might have been given it before, but I've missed a lot of posts and I'm running against the clock here! :-)
I wish I could be less 'ignorant' on HTML terms and build a website to my dear Teddy, but I barely know how to turn the computer on so... lol
Huggies!!!>>>>> NAT*-*

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Personally (and I don't give a **** who don't like it - except the BBoardBoss) I'm tired of the "They're gay, stop fantasizing" and "You post too much, limit your posting unless you post like us" ****. It's the equivalent of "Shut the **** up" and I can't stand it! WE'RE STRAIGHT WOMEN! WE'RE FANS! GET USED TO IT!!!

If don't nobody say "boo" to you, then don't be a b*tch to them! If you don't like what they say, SCROLL! What, ya got friggin' carpal tunnel in your ************ finger?! People got limited times when they can post and others STILL insist on restrictions which may cut these people down dramatically or off completely. I mean what the ****! Then people takin' meanings and twisting them around into some kind of bull**** when they KNOW what was said was not malicious! *** IT ALL!!! THIS is my summarized post for the evening!

Know what, I'm tired of talkin'. Common sense doesn't dwell here anymore. It's like trying to talk to a ************ duck. I don't give a ****. I'm out of here.

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signladybc dared to agree with me...

Okay, time to put on my 'notevayas' hat. Excuse me, but all 5 of these guys are grown up adult men, not Ken dolls, not teen idols. Each of them has had and continues to have careers in the 'real' world--Thom's design studio, Ted's writing for gourmet cooking magazines, Kyan's work in styling, Carson's work with Ralph Lauren and Jai's stage work.
It is fine to fantasize about them and it's fun to admire and adore them because they are unique people. But come on, we're not going to sleep with them and we're not goint to impact their lives with discussions/decisions about their partners.
'so sez' SignLadyB

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Isa replied...
This comes up every so often, and I keep forgetting to post that the same kind of fantasies, & discussions, etc. happens not just with the Fab 5, but on the actors, musicians, professional athletes, etc. Boards too. None of their fans have a chance either.

Millions of hot blooded women just like to share the fun of talking about their favorite hot guy. It's just an exercise in mental play. And ghod knows we all need a rest from everyday life. And if you go to some other Boards, ours is tame compared.

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notevayas responded...
You have a point, but there is another aspect that you are refusing to see. There is a difference between admiration and attraction and disrespect and exploitation.

It is usually women to point this out to men, isn't it? So you may feel that turnabout is fair play. It is not.

To ignore that a man is gay is significantly different than ignoring that he is a celebrity or beautiful or wealthy or whatever other reason you feel that he is out of reach. These men have come out as gay in a world very hostile to that fact. A true supporter would have admiration, even attraction perhaps, but not disrespect.

"So what is disrespect?" complains the man who goes to Hooters. "I respect these girls. My business pays their salaries. The strip club down the street is worse. The escort service across town hires illegals and is worse than the strip club. I love women! I'm just a hot-blooded man. One of a million.."

I also am uncomfortable with your use of the term "hot blooded". Perhaps you did not mean it as a racial stereotype, but it is often used as one nonetheless. You have posted repeatedly that you are Hispanic. I wanted to post with a strong intelligent woman, not a hot-blooded whatever..

Yes, celebrities are fair game. But what if you became famous for filming an aerobics or kickboxing class at that gym you say you work out so much in? What if women dominated your fanboards and speculated that they could change your sexuality? You know, even that wouldn't be as bad, because you would have majority law and all the institutions of society backing you. All sympathy would be for your feelings. No one would expect you to smile, suck it up, and be grateful to be accepted on any terms the public would accept you!

Sure I fantasy about straight male actors on occasion. Do I post on their fansites? I might someday. But I would be respectful, even as I extolled their virtues real and imagined.

There is a difference between respect and disrespect. It's hard to explain but easy to recognize. Maybe the type of women who work at Hooters become inured to the difference, but I doubt it. I do believe that most women with self respect would not want to be taken to dinner there because the ambience would feel oppressive to them, even though they would be surrounded by hot-blooded men. Maybe some would feel comfortable there. And maybe that is a shame.

I can't draw an exact line between positive and negative energy here, but I have a lifetime of knowing what disrespect feels like and so do you. As to how we respond to it, and deal with others with respect.. it is all about how we were socialized as children to have empathy or not, to have manners or not, to have taste or not. For example, do we post as adults on issues, or do we take cheap shots.. such as calling me a flamer because I protest this disrespect every so often, and challenge your "girls night out" mentality. Girls night out used to mean laughter and a few drinks in relative safety. Now it can mean nastiness and drunken violence if you believe the newpapers. Lack of self respect leads to lack of respect for others.

That is why two posts can talk about Thoms gorgeous hair and soulful eyes, and one is a tribute, and the other is coarse and rude.
notevayas

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*claps for TTB* Please don't leave. Too many of us would miss you.


Current mood: slightly pissy
Current Music: The Rundown
Random Thought: %$@*!

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