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brillke, you have over 1k posts
what do you have to say about yourself
I say, boy are my fingers getting tired.
brillke
1000 posts ! And we love all of them
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brillke, you have over 1k posts
what do you have to say about yourself
I say, boy are my fingers getting tired.
brillke
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Well, I guess if "cutting edge" these days means creating garments that didn't even flatter young, anoerexic size 0 fashion models let alone an average body-type buyer, then I will be just as happy to remain a conservative old fuddy-duddy! I just really wish the fashion industry would give a little more consideration to average-to-plus size folk who are older than twenty-something. I mean really... what are we to do... be doomed to being considered "unfashinable" for the rest of our lives?
Women have complained about that stuff for YEARS! Would you like to revisit the days of corsets? or maybe tiny shoes/wraps so our feet won't grow like the asian people? We could talk about the women who start as young girls wrapping metal around their necks to press down the shoulders and muscles to give the illusion of length - only seeing their real neck when their necklaces are changed as they grow. Fashion isn't about fair to all anywhere in the world. Do you think shoe models have size 11 feet? No, they are usually around a size 5.5 or 6. Hand models having large and muscular fingers noway! Dainty and thin with nice nails is how they are chosen.
My point? Nothing is going to change the "twiggy" image in fashion shows. Emme was the only thing that got plus-sized models in the public eye. Maybe there was a show for such models? Unfortunately that isn't what sells. Thin, beautiful girls are what sells. It's all about sales, money, marketing. It's only about real women when it comes to cup size! and have those are fake!
Really tho, those fashion shows are not really about the everyday woman. They are about who is going to design the clothes. We are not going to wear metallic gold tights with foil breast plates/shirts...... check those out in the Paris shows!!! It's just about their getting attention and then editing those designs and ideas in various ways including materials.
That's what I Think everyone is missing that doesn't get it. I personally wouldn't wear anything Jeffrey designed cause it wouldn't look good on me as a 43 y/o woman. I'm not who he is designing for, nor am I who PR is wanting to see designs for. They want to see versatility within the guidelines of what's considered beautiful in models. Young, skinny, different. Look at the models themselves in the past 10 to 20 years. They've changed races, facial ideas of beauty, but they are still young and skinny.
I'm an old fuddy duddy and if I had reason to purchase something from any of those designers it would probably come from Laura. If I were a free-spirited young girl again, I'd be all over Jeffrey's clothing. That doesn't mean every girl would be either.
There are arguments for both sides because no way is definitely the right way - because it's all about taste. HOWEVER, as I have said before - PR asked for new, innovative, versitile designers. Jeffrey proved he could be that - like everyone else he also made some mistakes. He just lucked out on the runway.
I thought Kaynes coutour gown was pretty. YES, it was a bit much, but the idea was really cute. Those people thought it was gross. Oh well......
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Michael designs clothes for [expletive deleted].
Jeffrey designs clothes for crack [expletive deleted]. He's also hostile to women despite his "romantic" crap. He wanted to "make the models go away" and use wigs to disguise them all.
Interesting how both the men designed clothes for how they want to see women. Both women designed clothes they'd want to wear.
It's unimaginable that Uli didn't win and that Laura didn't win. If one collection was "$30,000" and a judge would "wear every one of them" for the other, then we've all been had. They're judging in a way that we're not privy to. And this show has jumped the shark.
Laura's designs showed just as much skin, though veiled by see through fabric, than either of the men. What do you have to say about that?
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Just read this in the EW interview with Tim Gunn.
"Any other behind-the-scenes scoop that we didn't see on TV?
Vincent, my heartthrob — no, I'm teasing. If I were to say that with seriousness, put a bullet in my head. What you didn't see is when we were taping the reunion show, after that clip with Vincent, Michael Rucker, the producer who was in the scene with him doing all the screaming and yelling, came out to present him with a whole stack of new shirts, which was really lovely. And as soon as we broke for commercial, Vincent stood up and walked them to a garbage can and dumped them. He's crazy."
Wow,speaks volumes about the guy, huh? He was so gracious about them on the reunion show. He seemed very pleased yet he turns around and does this?
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Lovely post ty I enjoyed this and loved the collections.
And I am glad Laura did it her way. Frankly, seeing the horrendous negativity directed toward Jeffrey since he won, I am glad Laura or Uli didnt win. it would have been too painful hearing the kind of attacks on them that have been directed toward Jeffrey. I am emotionally involved in their collections so it would have affected me worse.
Of course we have had to endure some pretty harsh attacks on Laura anyway, but NOTHING like what would have happened had she won. Same for Uli.
I have been touched by Uli since her collection. I see now what she is about, and her sense of beauty, her drive, they affected my life, as of course have Laura's. Is there anything more beautiful that one can say about the work of an artist than to say that their work has touched you deeply?
I think this is the highest compliment one can give an artist. I was just thinking the same thing about Laura or Uli winning. You can bet this board would have gone just as nuts if one of them had won. I am still conflicted about how I feel about Bravo. They're gay-friendly yet choose to show straight guys spouting misogynistic crap. Go figure. I have loved fashion since I was a teenager; and I have always loved art and design, but I'm having a hard time even liking Bravo.
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Lovely post ty I enjoyed this and loved the collections.
And I am glad Laura did it her way. Frankly, seeing the horrendous negativity directed toward Jeffrey since he won, I am glad Laura or Uli didnt win. it would have been too painful hearing the kind of attacks on them that have been directed toward Jeffrey. I am emotionally involved in their collections so it would have affected me worse.
Of course we have had to endure some pretty harsh attacks on Laura anyway, but NOTHING like what would have happened had she won. Same for Uli.
I have been touched by Uli since her collection. I see now what she is about, and her sense of beauty, her drive, they affected my life, as of course have Laura's. Is there anything more beautiful that one can say about the work of an artist than to say that their work has touched you deeply?
I think this is the highest compliment one can give an artist. I was just thinking the same thing about Laura or Uli winning. You can bet this board would have gone just as nuts if one of them had won. I am still conflicted about how I feel about Bravo. They're gay-friendly yet choose to show straight guys spouting misogynistic crap. Go figure. I have loved fashion since I was a teenager; and I have always loved art and design, but I'm having a hard time even liking Bravo.
AI
What? I mean, really, what's the f**k? Like I've never heard a woman spout the same sort of drivel about men? I am really having a hard time with you all today and I now know why I'm so happy being gay.
I also now know why I'm one of the few men posting at this board, but no longer.
Damn I'm glad this was the last show. Hasta So Longa!
Sorry you're having a hard time today, Bear. Of course women spout the same kind of drivel. Please don't put words in people's mouths. What the f**k is wrong with you today? I'm not allowed to have an opinion? Yeah, I have a problem with some of Jeffrey's language, so what?
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"GOD YOU GUYS ARE ALL SUCH BABIES."
"And those of you who claim to never watch thye show again, well you are worse then any of them. Grow up. Or not, because personally, I don't think Bravo really cares if you small group of children don't tune in anymore."
You say this, then this,
"Everyone just needs to get off their high horses, quit personally attacking a man you do not know anything about other than the edited clips you've seen on tv, and jus tget over it."
Hello kettle, you visit here so often.
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brillke, you have over 1k posts
what do you have to say about yourself
I say, boy are my fingers getting tired.
brillke
1000 posts ! And we love all of them
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Just read this in the EW interview with Tim Gunn.
"Any other behind-the-scenes scoop that we didn't see on TV?
Vincent, my heartthrob — no, I'm teasing. If I were to say that with seriousness, put a bullet in my head. What you didn't see is when we were taping the reunion show, after that clip with Vincent, Michael Rucker, the producer who was in the scene with him doing all the screaming and yelling, came out to present him with a whole stack of new shirts, which was really lovely. And as soon as we broke for commercial, Vincent stood up and walked them to a garbage can and dumped them. He's crazy."
Wow,speaks volumes about the guy, huh? He was so gracious about them on the reunion show. He seemed very pleased yet he turns around and does this?
brillke
I saw this side of Vincent in the way he treated Angela. I sized that up and when people were saying "Oh Vincent is so sweet" I just never saw that.
He seemed very very vicious with her when she stood up to him. I am not saying that Angela was perfect, but it was Vincent's fault as he was constantly rolling his eyes at her and smirking and saying "I'm team leadah"!
Angela never really was given the benefit of the doubt by certain designers after she repudiated Vincent on the runway and said she did not like his design. Her problem is that she doesnt know how to play interpersonal politics very well. But she was clearly sabotaged by Vincent and right after Uli said she didnt want to room with Angela.
I suppose it must have been devine retribution for Angela to see how Vincent's insanity and disgusting behavior on display for all to see during the reunion show.
Quote:Quote:tam we think so much alike its scarey lol i thought i missed something in the angela/vincent pairing. i saw vincent as the nut job that really wanted no help from the get go. he was nasty from the beginning . look at his attitude in picking out the fabric she tried to point out to him they only had little time n he jumped on her. no she has her bad points but but she wasnt the villian that all thought she was. i also feel uli for all her sweetness in a sheep in wolfs clothing at times. she seemed to switch a lot of her loyalities at times n opinions as to who was in the room,. personally i dont trust people like that . IMHOQuote:
Just read this in the EW interview with Tim Gunn.
"Any other behind-the-scenes scoop that we didn't see on TV?
Vincent, my heartthrob — no, I'm teasing. If I were to say that with seriousness, put a bullet in my head. What you didn't see is when we were taping the reunion show, after that clip with Vincent, Michael Rucker, the producer who was in the scene with him doing all the screaming and yelling, came out to present him with a whole stack of new shirts, which was really lovely. And as soon as we broke for commercial, Vincent stood up and walked them to a garbage can and dumped them. He's crazy."
Wow,speaks volumes about the guy, huh? He was so gracious about them on the reunion show. He seemed very pleased yet he turns around and does this?
brillke
I saw this side of Vincent in the way he treated Angela. I sized that up and when people were saying "Oh Vincent is so sweet" I just never saw that.
He seemed very very vicious with her when she stood up to him. I am not saying that Angela was perfect, but it was Vincent's fault as he was constantly rolling his eyes at her and smirking and saying "I'm team leadah"!
Angela never really was given the benefit of the doubt by certain designers after she repudiated Vincent on the runway and said she did not like his design. Her problem is that she doesnt know how to play interpersonal politics very well. But she was clearly sabotaged by Vincent and right after Uli said she didnt want to room with Angela.
I suppose it must have been devine retribution for Angela to see how Vincent's insanity and disgusting behavior on display for all to see during the reunion show.
alice
Quote:Quote:Quote:tam we think so much alike its scarey lol i thought i missed something in the angela/vincent pairing. i saw vincent as the nut job that really wanted no help from the get go. he was nasty from the beginning . look at his attitude in picking out the fabric she tried to point out to him they only had little time n he jumped on her. no she has her bad points but but she wasnt the villian that all thought she was. i also feel uli for all her sweetness in a sheep in wolfs clothing at times. she seemed to switch a lot of her loyalities at times n opinions as to who was in the room,. personally i dont trust people like that . IMHOQuote:
Just read this in the EW interview with Tim Gunn.
"Any other behind-the-scenes scoop that we didn't see on TV?
Vincent, my heartthrob — no, I'm teasing. If I were to say that with seriousness, put a bullet in my head. What you didn't see is when we were taping the reunion show, after that clip with Vincent, Michael Rucker, the producer who was in the scene with him doing all the screaming and yelling, came out to present him with a whole stack of new shirts, which was really lovely. And as soon as we broke for commercial, Vincent stood up and walked them to a garbage can and dumped them. He's crazy."
Wow,speaks volumes about the guy, huh? He was so gracious about them on the reunion show. He seemed very pleased yet he turns around and does this?
brillke
I saw this side of Vincent in the way he treated Angela. I sized that up and when people were saying "Oh Vincent is so sweet" I just never saw that.
He seemed very very vicious with her when she stood up to him. I am not saying that Angela was perfect, but it was Vincent's fault as he was constantly rolling his eyes at her and smirking and saying "I'm team leadah"!
Angela never really was given the benefit of the doubt by certain designers after she repudiated Vincent on the runway and said she did not like his design. Her problem is that she doesnt know how to play interpersonal politics very well. But she was clearly sabotaged by Vincent and right after Uli said she didnt want to room with Angela.
I suppose it must have been devine retribution for Angela to see how Vincent's insanity and disgusting behavior on display for all to see during the reunion show.
alice
Thanks, Alice, I take that as a super compliment
Did you notice how, when Angela was on Vincent's team, she sat nearby for hours and he gave her absolutely nothing to do. Malan noticed that and he was one of the few who took Angela's side.... the rest did not. Also, after hours of sitting doing nothing while the other teams worked together, Angela finally had enough and just went to amuse herself, eat, whatever. The very second she walked away, Vincent, who had given her NOTHING to do, ran screaming at the top of his lungs "ANGELA WHERE ARE YOU !!??" Everyone heard it and it looked as if Angela had just walked out in a fit of pique but that was all engineered by Vincent.
To change the subject to our Laura, did you notice how Tim hugged her when she finished showing her collection??? I think he was far more impressed by her collection than he could say. Heidi is his boss after all, and he cannot be seen openly disagreeing with the judges decisions too much.
Heidi is an enigma to me. I actually like her a lot, and Tim said that she gets very disturbed when she has to auf someone. I also did love what she said to Laura. She said some very nice things about Laura's collection.
Agreed I didnt trust Uli, until I saw her collection, and she did what I think a true artist should do, she let me see the beauty inside. As of course did Laura. This is true genius IMO. I sort of fell in love with Uli at that moment, and she is a VERY strong second behind Laura for me now.
I absolutely see her as a good, kind person, who is incredibly good at playing the political game and using it for her own advantage, but I do think inside she wouldnt hurt anyone.
It has been such a privilege for me to know the very nice people here on this forum, and I will always carry you all in my heart.
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I gotta say - - I'm am completely lost on this argument "Fashion is supposed to make a woman beautiful".
Is this to say ALL must adhere to YOUR concept of beauty?
Have you ever studied or read about "beauty" around the world?
Perhaps you should.
Did you just disagree with yourself?
brillke
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I gotta say - - I'm am completely lost on this argument "Fashion is supposed to make a woman beautiful".
Is this to say ALL must adhere to YOUR concept of beauty?
Have you ever studied or read about "beauty" around the world?
Perhaps you should.
Did you just disagree with yourself?
brillke
NO - unless you perceive from your own mind for this too mean more then it states.
But then you always do jump in to defend Tam - the one I wrote this to.
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WHO and WHAT defines beauty?
From my POV you continue to put down those who do not fit your narrow perception of beauty.
Beauty is a personal perception - - it can not be dictated.
In parts of Haiti - women wrap yards of fabric around their hips to make themselves beautiful.
Northern Japanese girls tattooed their foreheads, hands, arms, and upper lips, with a motif that stretched from ear to ear (the tattoo was completed by the groom on their honeymoon).
Some people find tatoos and spiked hair beautiful.
The classic man today is tall and thin - - - I happen to be attracted to stocky men.
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Mornin Tam!,
I value your opinion!
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WHO and WHAT defines beauty?
From my POV you continue to put down those who do not fit your narrow perception of beauty.
Beauty is a personal perception - - it can not be dictated.
In parts of Haiti - women wrap yards of fabric around their hips to make themselves beautiful.
Northern Japanese girls tattooed their foreheads, hands, arms, and upper lips, with a motif that stretched from ear to ear (the tattoo was completed by the groom on their honeymoon).
Some people find tatoos and spiked hair beautiful.
The classic man today is tall and thin - - - I happen to be attracted to stocky men.
not all men today are tall n thin very few of ordinary males. tattoos are beauty to some but not to all. depends
beauty is in the eye of the beholder. n all are entitled to their own opinion even here. coninuing to argue for the sake of some one not agreeing with u is pointless
so to you who seems to like to agrue finit
alice
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WHO and WHAT defines beauty?
From my POV you continue to put down those who do not fit your narrow perception of beauty.
Beauty is a personal perception - - it can not be dictated.
In parts of Haiti - women wrap yards of fabric around their hips to make themselves beautiful.
Northern Japanese girls tattooed their foreheads, hands, arms, and upper lips, with a motif that stretched from ear to ear (the tattoo was completed by the groom on their honeymoon).
Some people find tatoos and spiked hair beautiful.
The classic man today is tall and thin - - - I happen to be attracted to stocky men.
I am done with your rudeness
I am not telling ANYONE what to consider beautful, but you just keep continually following me about harrassing me.
I think you are probably simplebear to be honest, but in any event I dont care who you are. I have a POV and I will present it and if you dont like what I have to say then just read past and move on.
I consider you a TROLL and this is my last response to you.
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WHO and WHAT defines beauty?
From my POV you continue to put down those who do not fit your narrow perception of beauty.
Beauty is a personal perception - - it can not be dictated.
In parts of Haiti - women wrap yards of fabric around their hips to make themselves beautiful.
Northern Japanese girls tattooed their foreheads, hands, arms, and upper lips, with a motif that stretched from ear to ear (the tattoo was completed by the groom on their honeymoon).
Some people find tatoos and spiked hair beautiful.
The classic man today is tall and thin - - - I happen to be attracted to stocky men.
I am done with your rudeness
I am not telling ANYONE what to consider beautful, but you just keep continually following me about harrassing me.
I think you are probably simplebear to be honest, but in any event I dont care who you are. I have a POV and I will present it and if you dont like what I have to say then just read past and move on.
I consider you a TROLL and this is my last response to you.
There must be much more to your posting relationship than the above to illicit such a strong response. I don't think anyone's POV should be dismissed as uninformed/trite/unworthy but we can disagree. I hope you two can accept that your POV can be challenged by others without dismissing you personally.
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Thanks Tam for me being in your thoughts! AI and Brillke read about the deaths of my friends in the papers I'm sure it did make national news. Was a truley horrific thing that happened that makes all of this stupid bashing I've read on the boards in regards to the show seem very light, compared to the extremely dark thing that happened here in NOLA.
But the posters on this board have let me escape from the reality that has happened here.
I'm sorry your fav did not win but I loved her collection. I loved all the collections. But as they said on ProjectRunGay the peanut head won...lol
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You missed my point.
Someone who has watched two seasons of Project Runway episodes on television is in no position to judge or compare the designers work.
Someone who has had the opportunity to look at their work first hand is in a better position to know who does better work.
Actually no I didn't miss your point. I disagreed with it. And fashion is designed for people like me, so yes I am in a position to judge what I do and don't consider fashionable. From what I've been reading on here so far, the vast majority seem to agree with me. Even if Heidi did see the creations close up, she was still obviously blind to good taste.
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Yup they were..Terribly sad.
Oh by the way did you see Tim Gunn on the Reggies/Kelly show yesterday? He c0-hosted with Kelly and she made him put on those croc shoes! I was ROTFLMAO when he was standing there in his lovely suit and tie with those ugly green rubber looking crocs on his feet. Started my whole morning off with a great laugh really needed that.
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Yup they were..Terribly sad.
Oh by the way did you see Tim Gunn on the Reggies/Kelly show yesterday? He c0-hosted with Kelly and she made him put on those croc shoes! I was ROTFLMAO when he was standing there in his lovely suit and tie with those ugly green rubber looking crocs on his feet. Started my whole morning off with a great laugh really needed that.
LOL no I didnt see that Would love to have seen it !
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I gotta say - - I'm am completely lost on this argument "Fashion is supposed to make a woman beautiful".
Is this to say ALL must adhere to YOUR concept of beauty?
Have you ever studied or read about "beauty" around the world?
Perhaps you should.
Did you just disagree with yourself?
brillke
NO - unless you perceive from your own mind for this too mean more then it states.
But then you always do jump in to defend Tam - the one I wrote this to.
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Morning CALady,
Sorry you missed the show I got to see it before going to work! And yes, he was great think he has a great future as a co-host or host of his own show would be great to see that. But I doubt he ever would, he just kept saying he was so nervous about co-hosting with Kelly and was in such awe to be there doing it. The audience really loved him.
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Just hooking on here to say how glad I was to see my old friends still here this morning...I am really going to miss posting with my "buds" on this board. I have tried twice now to watch TC but just am not going to get into it...for one thing, how can people possibly eat snails...so I guess I will have to wait another year to greet everyone again. I hope you all take good care of your health and see you back for PR 4!
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Afternoon Brillke!
I know it is only a little after noon here but could you pass me some PR punch and a cheeseburger?
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Hi Oscarsimon,
I have been reading all the post here and there is alot of newbies that have signed up to bash the decision of the winner. I as has bear and a few other posters have been Jeffreys corner the whole time, we have not bashed the other contestants on the show..just tried to talk about the fashion. Personally I thank you for your post in regards to this last show..to me it was not you on a soap box but trying to get most posters to understand why Jeffrey won in regards to innovation etc.
As Bear stated earlier we both are in Jeffreys corner but Uli did step it up and had a great show. I thought she would win!
However I'm glad Jeffrey won.We all have our favs, Tam loves Laura and I must admitt I love those styles from the 30's,40's as well.The one thing is Tam has her opinions and being a 20yr.old college student and studying fashion she is intittalled her opinion. Loved the the poetic verse you did for her.
Too all the regular posters thank you it has been fun. We tend to dissagree and agree to dissagree with each others opinions and that it great!
Now on another point! Did anyone get a chance to see Tim Gunn host with Kelly Rippa on the Reggies and Kelly show yesterday? If you did not then you missed a truley great show!!!!! Love me some Tim Gunn.
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Hi Oscarsimon,
I have been reading all the post here and there is alot of newbies that have signed up to bash the decision of the winner. I as has bear and a few other posters have been Jeffreys corner the whole time, we have not bashed the other contestants on the show..just tried to talk about the fashion. Personally I thank you for your post in regards to this last show..to me it was not you on a soap box but trying to get most posters to understand why Jeffrey won in regards to innovation etc.
As Bear stated earlier we both are in Jeffreys corner but Uli did step it up and had a great show. I thought she would win!
However I'm glad Jeffrey won.We all have our favs, Tam loves Laura and I must admitt I love those styles from the 30's,40's as well.The one thing is Tam has her opinions and being a 20yr.old college student and studying fashion she is intittalled her opinion. Loved the the poetic verse you did for her.
Too all the regular posters thank you it has been fun. We tend to dissagree and agree to dissagree with each others opinions and that it great!
Now on another point! Did anyone get a chance to see Tim Gunn host with Kelly Rippa on the Reggies and Kelly show yesterday? If you did not then you missed a truley great show!!!!! Love me some Tim Gunn.
Thank you Actor59
If you read most of my posts - - they are logical - - direct - - and void of emotion - - not bashing at all.
I have participated on many forums and over the years have learned to be staid - - using a more logical opinion assessment rather then personal feelings (however I am human).
I have clearly stated (more then once) Uli's designs are beautiful and the only clothes that I would personally buy for myself.
I have clearly stated Laura is the best seamstress - - her workmanship is undeniable - - and her designs are of classic beauty (we all know of the little black dress).
I have stated clearly all three did great in their own style - - but that Jeffrey had more range - innovation - creativity (which is exactly why the judges chose him).
I am appalled by the personal attacks.
Now - - being that I am 60 and grew up in the Venice Beach CA area - - I do have a fondness for "funky" street styles.
However - - I have been designing and constructing clothes since I was six and sell/buy vintage. I have knowledge of many styles and eras. And I am very aware of construction and coulture.
Only because of sarcastic and snide remarks directed to a post I made (actually more then one) - - did I come out of the woodwork - - where I had been silently reading.
One who expressed their opinion in an offensive manner and specifically directed it - - is responsible for me becoming vocal in my own defense.
Should I have let it go? Probably
Should I have retreated before now? Probably
But - I chose to continue. Wrong decision? Yes (but I am only human)
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I have been reading all the post here and there is alot of newbies that have signed up to bash the decision of the winner. I as has bear and a few other posters have been Jeffreys corner the whole time, we have not bashed the other contestants on the show..just tried to talk about the fashion. Personally I thank you for your post in regards to this last show..to me it was not you on a soap box but trying to get most posters to understand why Jeffrey won in regards to innovation etc.
As Bear stated earlier we both are in Jeffreys corner but Uli did step it up and had a great show. I thought she would win!
However I'm glad Jeffrey won.We all have our favs, Tam loves Laura and I must admitt I love those styles from the 30's,40's as well.The one thing is Tam has her opinions and being a 20yr.old college student and studying fashion she is intittalled her opinion. Loved the the poetic verse you did for her.
Too all the regular posters thank you it has been fun. We tend to dissagree and agree to dissagree with each others opinions and that it great!
Now on another point! Did anyone get a chance to see Tim Gunn host with Kelly Rippa on the Reggies and Kelly show yesterday? If you did not then you missed a truley great show!!!!! Love me some Tim Gunn.
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Hi Oscarsimon,
I have been reading all the post here and there is alot of newbies that have signed up to bash the decision of the winner. I as has bear and a few other posters have been Jeffreys corner the whole time, we have not bashed the other contestants on the show..just tried to talk about the fashion. Personally I thank you for your post in regards to this last show..to me it was not you on a soap box but trying to get most posters to understand why Jeffrey won in regards to innovation etc.
As Bear stated earlier we both are in Jeffreys corner but Uli did step it up and had a great show. I thought she would win!
However I'm glad Jeffrey won.We all have our favs, Tam loves Laura and I must admitt I love those styles from the 30's,40's as well.The one thing is Tam has her opinions and being a 20yr.old college student and studying fashion she is intittalled her opinion. Loved the the poetic verse you did for her.
Too all the regular posters thank you it has been fun. We tend to dissagree and agree to dissagree with each others opinions and that it great!
Now on another point! Did anyone get a chance to see Tim Gunn host with Kelly Rippa on the Reggies and Kelly show yesterday? If you did not then you missed a truley great show!!!!! Love me some Tim Gunn.
Thank you Actor59
If you read most of my posts - - they are logical - - direct - - and void of emotion - - not bashing at all.
I have participated on many forums and over the years have learned to be staid - - using a more logical opinion assessment rather then personal feelings (however I am human).
I have clearly stated (more then once) Uli's designs are beautiful and the only clothes that I would personally buy for myself.
I have clearly stated Laura is the best seamstress - - her workmanship is undeniable - - and her designs are of classic beauty (we all know of the little black dress).
I have stated clearly all three did great in their own style - - but that Jeffrey had more range - innovation - creativity (which is exactly why the judges chose him).
I am appalled by the personal attacks.
Now - - being that I am 60 and grew up in the Venice Beach CA area - - I do have a fondness for "funky" street styles.
However - - I have been designing and constructing clothes since I was six and sell/buy vintage. I have knowledge of many styles and eras. And I am very aware of construction and coulture.
Only because of sarcastic and snide remarks directed to a post I made (actually more then one) - - did I come out of the woodwork - - where I had been silently reading.
One who expressed their opinion in an offensive manner and specifically directed it - - is responsible for me becoming vocal in my own defense.
Should I have let it go? Probably
Should I have retreated before now? Probably
But - I chose to continue. Wrong decision? Yes (but I am only human)
I loved that poetry too Oscarsimon. It was so vivid and beautiful what you wrote, I was truly unable to express words.
It touched me deeply, and I should have said something, but nothing I could have posted would be equal to what you wrote.
I did get snide with you once but I have asked several times your forgiveness. I honestly do not know what to think.
You sometimes post lovely things, and sometimes angry things (I guess I do that too) but somehow I cannot tell if you see in me a target or a friend. It does seem a target at times, but I could be misunderstanding you.
I will always read what you write, I enjoy your posts, except when you quote someone else thinking it was me. I do think you have confused some negative things someone else has said for my own words, but then maybe not.
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After watching the runway show, I thought for sure that Jeffrey should have won. Why can't you people put aside your dislike for his personality to see that he really did have the best, cohesive collection? I didn't care for him personally either, but...
I can't stand his clothes, no matter what his personality is...Uli clearly should have won.
No she shouldn't have.
The right person won.
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Hi Oscarsimon,
I have been reading all the post here and there is alot of newbies that have signed up to bash the decision of the winner. I as has bear and a few other posters have been Jeffreys corner the whole time, we have not bashed the other contestants on the show..just tried to talk about the fashion. Personally I thank you for your post in regards to this last show..to me it was not you on a soap box but trying to get most posters to understand why Jeffrey won in regards to innovation etc.
As Bear stated earlier we both are in Jeffreys corner but Uli did step it up and had a great show. I thought she would win!
However I'm glad Jeffrey won.We all have our favs, Tam loves Laura and I must admitt I love those styles from the 30's,40's as well.The one thing is Tam has her opinions and being a 20yr.old college student and studying fashion she is intittalled her opinion. Loved the the poetic verse you did for her.
Too all the regular posters thank you it has been fun. We tend to dissagree and agree to dissagree with each others opinions and that it great!
Now on another point! Did anyone get a chance to see Tim Gunn host with Kelly Rippa on the Reggies and Kelly show yesterday? If you did not then you missed a truley great show!!!!! Love me some Tim Gunn.
Thank you Actor59
If you read most of my posts - - they are logical - - direct - - and void of emotion - - not bashing at all.
I have participated on many forums and over the years have learned to be staid - - using a more logical opinion assessment rather then personal feelings (however I am human).
I have clearly stated (more then once) Uli's designs are beautiful and the only clothes that I would personally buy for myself.
I have clearly stated Laura is the best seamstress - - her workmanship is undeniable - - and her designs are of classic beauty (we all know of the little black dress).
I have stated clearly all three did great in their own style - - but that Jeffrey had more range - innovation - creativity (which is exactly why the judges chose him).
I am appalled by the personal attacks.
Now - - being that I am 60 and grew up in the Venice Beach CA area - - I do have a fondness for "funky" street styles.
However - - I have been designing and constructing clothes since I was six and sell/buy vintage. I have knowledge of many styles and eras. And I am very aware of construction and coulture.
Only because of sarcastic and snide remarks directed to a post I made (actually more then one) - - did I come out of the woodwork - - where I had been silently reading.
One who expressed their opinion in an offensive manner and specifically directed it - - is responsible for me becoming vocal in my own defense.
Should I have let it go? Probably
Should I have retreated before now? Probably
But - I chose to continue. Wrong decision? Yes (but I am only human)
I loved that poetry too Oscarsimon. It was so vivid and beautiful what you wrote, I was truly unable to express words.
It touched me deeply, and I should have said something, but nothing I could have posted would be equal to what you wrote.
I did get snide with you once but I have asked several times your forgiveness. I honestly do not know what to think.
You sometimes post lovely things, and sometimes angry things (I guess I do that too) but somehow I cannot tell if you see in me a target or a friend. It does seem a target at times, but I could be misunderstanding you.
I will always read what you write, I enjoy your posts, except when you quote someone else thinking it was me. I do think you have confused some negative things someone else has said for my own words, but then maybe not.
OK - TRUCE
I can do that. Fashion has been my life - I can be a bit sensitive.
Happy that you liked what I wrote especially for you. It is original - written only on this board - for you (see I can be sweet too).
I wanted you to take great positive creative thoughts with you to design school.
Fashion is Everything.
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OK,
Oscarsimon,
My apologies. I'm glad you called a truce with Tam. I don't want to get into it with anyone on the board. Your opinion is yours, and mine is mine. Respect works both ways.
AI