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After watching the runway show, I thought for sure that Jeffrey should have won. Why can't you people put aside your dislike for his personality to see that he really did have the best, cohesive collection? I didn't care for him personally either, but...

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I can't stand his clothes, no matter what his personality is...Uli clearly should have won.

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No she shouldn't have.

The right person won.

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You know Oscarsimon,
It's your posts like this that I find offensive. You complain about others getting snide with you, but you're kinda bossy with your opinion. The original post was from rtrack and the response was from mchris65. Did either one of these posters personally attack you?
AI

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Hey AI!,

LOL we are all mother hens when it comes to TAM!

Hey Actor,
Cluck, cluck, cluck.....lol....aren't you a rooster? Looking forward to next weekend.
AI

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I am more than happy to be a mother hen in Actor's hen house. lol
Glad everyone is happy again. Hey when do we leave this board and head for the TC board?

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I did today and said hello to you over there!!!

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Just hooking on here to say how glad I was to see my old friends still here this morning...I am really going to miss posting with my "buds" on this board. I have tried twice now to watch TC but just am not going to get into it...for one thing, how can people possibly eat snails...so I guess I will have to wait another year to greet everyone again. I hope you all take good care of your health and see you back for PR 4!

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Oh Carole, We would hate to see you wait until S4. Give TC a chance, it took me two or three shows the first season and now I am hooked. I learned so much about cooking that I really enjoy it now and the drama was fun as well.
If not, stop by the TC board and chat with us.

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Project Runway just affirms my belief that fashion is no longer about making women look beautiful, it has become a hedonistic artform. Models are merely coat hangers with heads.

The dress stands alone as an independent piece of art, the woman wearing it is secondary.

Decades ago, fashion was about designing clothes to make women appear more elegant, adventurous, sexy, chic. Think Chanel. The fashions women wore made a statement about her; now designers create fashion to make a statement about themselves.

It doesn't matter if it looks good on only six women living on the planet -- this is deemed to be fashionable for almost everyone. If it doesn't look good on you, that is your fault.

And this is what passes for style. Even if it doesn't translate into something wearable for women, it is deemed "good", "worthy" and even "desirable."

What percentage of fashionable women in America would choose anything out of Jeffery's line over Uli's or Laura's? The MODELS didn't even look good in it.

The judges COMPLAINED that Laura's work was "impeccable" and that her designs were timeless and classic. Her construction was perfect. Most had hours of hand work. Laura's designs were the stuff of fashion back when it was about excellence.

Make no mistake -- the judges are telling us that fashion is no longer about quality. It is no longer about luxurious fabrics (think of Jeffrey's picnic basket evening gown). It is no longer about owning a piece to enhance your wardrobe and be worn for years to come.

And it certainly is no longer about making women look beautiful.

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A-freakin'-men!!

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This poster said exactly what I've been thinking and even wrote to a fellow PR fan... that Jeffery's clothes are about HIM and the statement he wants to make instead of being about the WOMAN.

Jeffery's may be art (not my taste tho) but they are not anything most women would wear. Who wants to look like a freak show. The classic styles are classic for a reason.... because they look good.

I'm done with PR, no longer a fan.

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About three years ago, I had a conversation with a woman who worked in some of the finest fashion houses of Europe for the previous 30 years. I had been complaining about the number of clothes I had in my closet that just plain looked bad on me, were poorly constructed, or didn't hold up over time. She gave me quite an education. And after our exchange, I understood exactly what to buy and what to look for in clothing.

In a nutshell, this is what she told me. I don't work in fashion, so I don't know if it's true, but it seemed to be right.

Years and years ago, there were no real standard sizes. It was assumed that your body was not proportioned correctly. Most of your clothes were custom tailored for you. Even off-the-rack items were routinely altered.

High fashion was about better quality fabrics, solid construction and pieces you purchased to wear for a lifetime. These were part of your own personal collection of clothes. They were called "classic" because they did not go out of style. These were tailored to fit your particular body. If there was a drastic change in hemlines, you simply altered the piece.

Most women had a much smaller wardrobe and these were very good pieces that could be worn over and over again. You might have only three cocktail dresses, but you looked smashing in each one of them. If you looked good in a particular color, that's what you bought.

In the 1960's, fashion became tied to art and music. Designers became celebrities in their own right. Slowly, the industry transitioned from making women look beautiful to being about the clothes themselves, and then ultimately, the designers. Clothing became art and designers became celebrity artists.

And like many artforms, once a name was made for a designer (consider what happens to some musicians in the later stages of their careers), any piece of crap they turned out was valued. Each piece no longer had to stand on it's own merit.

Instead of designing clothes that made women look good, designers created good-looking clothes and then found a model to make the clothing look its best. Isn't it odd that the designers struggle to choose the right model to walk their clothes down the runway from a gaggle of 6' tall, size 0 models? And sometimes the clothes STILL look bad?

Think about that for a moment next time you wonder why you don't look great in some crappy designer line. Then realize that these runway pieces are custom tailored to the model. And still some of it looks bad.

You're trying to make it look good off the rack?

Now, a piece from a collection will be mass produced, knocked off or in some manner it will be filtered down to the rest of us who are not 6' size 0 models. And when it's made, the focus is not on quality and construction, but how they can produce the most items from a bolt of fabric. That's why we all have had the experience with slacks that one leg seems to go the wrong direction. That's because they could squeeze out more of them by ignoring things like the bias in favor of saving fabric.

It isn't about quality. It is about pride of construction. It's about making money.

It used to be that something that was designer used to mean it was the finest quality available. The best fabric. The highest quality sewing. Impeccable finishing. Today, expense does not equal excellence. You can find the same deplorable construction in a discount retail outlet as you can in a high end "designer" fashion.

Did you notice that on PR, not once did you see a judge actually look closely at how the piece was constructed. Some of that crap was GLUED -- and this passed for "high fashion."

Most women do not understand how to shop for their body type and are incredibly frustrated and depressed because they don't look good in these so-called fashions. It's because we are force fed this idea of fashion as wearable art when none of us are hanger-shaped canvas. And yet we keep buying this crap that they tell us is fashion even when we know there's no way it will look good on us.

It's like we don't have our own voice as a gender. I mean, who among us did not cringe when we heard bell-bottom, hip huggers were coming back into style?

None of this will change until women start refusing to buy into this big lie that there is something wrong with our bodies because we aren't genetic freaks that are 6 feet tall and weigh 120 pounds. Until we start demanding real quality in our clothing (decent fabrics, and a minimal level of construction), we will continue to be told we're out of style, too fat or too old.

Fight the lie.

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With Jeffrey winning Project Runway 3, that will be the end of my watching any future renditions of the show. I don't know how he made it to the end, let alone how he won. His designs just weren't that great. Besides that, I don't understand how the show could reward such a harsh, rude, and cruel individual. I'm completely flabbergasted and disgusted. I would have been happy with any of the other three, who proved themselves time and time again. Here's one fan that won't be returning to the show. It’s too bad really. I really like the show but to watch it for so long and see someone like Jeffrey win in the end, really gets my goat.

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His Everyday Woman challenge was horrible. I don't think he was better than Robert's.
His Recycle challenge looked like some Superhero comic book charachter.
His first challenge with the flying feathers was horrible with that long in the front dress.
This man should have been auf'd long ago. But apparantly he has his fans out there. I wonder how much of them like him for his designs and skills or just his psuedo-iconoclastic lifestyle. I can see him appealing to the "Jim Jones' crowd.

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This reminded me so much of Jay winning the first season. I loved Jay, but his designs were horrible. And, he didn't win one challenge. I had no idea how he even got to the final three much less won. I'm fairly sure this show is not about fashion. It's more about the interactions between the show's participants. That's what "reality TV" is all about. I think that they intentionally look for one or two abrasive personalities to inject in every show. It's too bad the show can't be "real" rather than "reality". I think people would be more than happy to watch without all the drama they inject into the show.

This was my first season, and I am totally disappointed. But I will watch next season to see if they get the hint. Hopefully the producers read this blog and see what the public thinks.

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You know Oscarsimon,
It's your posts like this that I find offensive. You complain about others getting snide with you, but you're kinda bossy with your opinion. The original post was from rtrack and the response was from mchris65. Did either one of these posters personally attack you?
AI

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I didn't, not even sure who's who here yet. That's why I sorta turned it into a joke ("your turn") in my next response...it's pretty ridiculous when people come together for their favorite show and pretty much put others down for having opinions.

I wish we could live in an internet world where people could act more irl to each other.

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I know you didn't mchris65, that was my point. I second your wish. I have found respectful friends with differing viewpoints on this board. Sometimes we party, and people say 'get well soon' if you're sick, sometimes we argue, so there are a few similarities to IRL. I enjoy reading your posts.
AI

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