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Hele
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The decision generated a ton of hype.. my friends that are also fans of this season are up-in-arms and I find it hilarous. Uli's collection was amazing and nothing will take that way. She is set for a huge career, both my mom and sister were swooning over her collection.



Hilarious*

I can't spell
eyelikepr
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... bring on Season 4 !!



When is Season 4. This season was a suprise, because usually you have to wait until about a year later. I hope it's soon like this one.
Adelheide
Oh I wasn't saying that Laura should have won! OMG completely the opposite! I was responding to this statement by another poster...{The real theme is that on TV being an A-hole is a asset}

That is why I said if that were true, Laura would have won.
sopenca
I completely agree. I was underwhelmed with the judges decision. While his collection was good, I didn't really scream innovative to me. I thought Uli really nailed it. I guess having a good sob story helps a lot.
strategy
This show NEVER get it right!

They NEVER had a Winner I agreed with. Besides, where are they now?

Fat boy FINALLY showed - to little fanfare
Asian Girl is stuck making PROM dresses and

this Dope Fiend isn't ORIGINAL at all. Besides, he can't sew. Yuck! Besides, I was watching the Black Movie Awards - I just found out this outcome.
sistagirl
I am disappointed that Uli lost. Her collection was beautiful and fashion forward. I would wear any of the designs in her collection. Though I was pulling for Michael he dropped the ball tonight. His lack of experience came through - though I felt the judges were unnecessarily harsh. As he grows he will rock.

Jeffery was a jerk yes - but aside from that I viewed much of his work as a throw back to punk angst. I didn't like it in the 80's and I don't like it updated. Uli's work is forward and fabulous.

Oh well - the sob story - feel for the jerk - won. Taste and wearable fashion that the judges seemed to prefer (Uli) lost out to ratings. Such is the state of entertainment.

Peace.
kikitat
I can't believe they chose jeffrey. Did you watch his models? They couldn't even walk right. Most of them looked like their pants were on too tight.

I have to agree with the person who mentioned last week that Bravo must have been trying to get the audience to feel sorry for Jeffrey so they could let him win. His designs were ok, but the judges kept mentioning that Uli's outfits were ones every woman would want to wear.

So, why didn't Uli win????????

Why instead, put up a man whose designs only the anorexic or music mania would want to wear?

PR - very unimpressed. If you have another season, I don't think I will be one to watch.
dsgn1
this is my first post, and rightfully so.

I always been routing for Jeffrey because of his innovation and edginess, but eventhough I liked his show, I was expecting more. It's too bad about the accusations -- I thought having the models wearing matching wigs would be a great distinctive touch.
Laura's runways was very refined but that was it -- the music (which was great) remined me of Kara Sahn's show, proabably the same composer. Very vintage and little innovation.
Michael's was surprisingly a bit too gaudy and lacking in taste, I was expecting more -- the models were definately the hottest and really moved well.
Uli's I thought had the best all around show. I thought she would win because her's design was the most commercially marketable and something would sell in the stores.
Congrats to Jeffrey, he deserved it!
Flirtara
I have to agree about runway shows. First only someone close to their death bed from starvation could fit in the clothes to begin with. I feel like force feeding them. Second many of the clothes are hideous. Even more ironic is people appear to pay more depending on how bad it looks. There is a clear disconnect between the fashion in fasion magazines, hollywood, and runway shows and that which everyday people wear. Lets look back the the episode they had to design for the designer's family. Talk about problems.

I don't agree with Jeffrey winning, because the only outfit I liked was the zipper dress. I personally thought Uli's should win and Laura should be second. I was very sad for Michael, because he was my favorite designer based on personality. However, he does need to mature his identity in the fashion world.

The cool part about Runway shows and fashion is that when it is all over; It is Your choice whose clothes to wear.

So go forth and shop from Your Favorite Designers!
tealy
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This show NEVER get it right!

They NEVER had a Winner I agreed with. Besides, where are they now?

Fat boy FINALLY showed - to little fanfare
Asian Girl is stuck making PROM dresses and

this Dope Fiend isn't ORIGINAL at all. Besides, he can't sew. Yuck! Besides, I was watching the Black Movie Awards - I just found out this outcome.




CTFU @ fat boy. I love Jay but he didn't deserve to win. Kara Sunn had that all the way. I also don't believe Chloe deserved to win so I guess we are in agreement wholeheartedly (sp). I just don't know what to think at this point but I will be keeping my eyes open for Laura's and Michael's things. I loved the long print dress Michael did and his swimsuits were gorgeous. Since I am in my mid 30s I love the pieces Laura made. I think all designers will do well but if Michael is welcomed by the hip hop people, he will be a force to be wreaken with. He would do well designing for videos.
Whatevah
Jeffrey won

God's in his heaven, all's right with the world.
carolina19
I can not believed Jeffrey Won Ms Nina Garcia always like that type ,Uli was the real winner not the ogly and discusting Jeffrey ,to be an artist you do not need that way of life or that way of dress I will wear ulis fashion and laura and Michael but Jeffrey is wat we call I arts a wan to be I am an artist and do not dress liked that maybe because Ido not need to prove a thing a cuban-american fine artist from Miami .Adios,( I don liked this show any more).
Raymondo
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Karma's a [expletive deleted]. The right man won, and the slanderous drag queen wore a devasted expression when she was booted that was absolutely priceless. Uli also did a great job. And "darling" Michael showed his true colors joining in with Laura on the accusation against Jeffrey and in a thoroughly trashy collection.

Hundreds of man hours of beading, rich [expletive deleted] with 5 kids, and SHE'S accusing Jeff of cheating? As Kayne said, "I worry about your character, which is far worse." I think her output should have been equally scrutinized by the producers. Again, in the immortal words of Vincent, "Why don't you stick those Harry Winstons up your nose?"






Dont hold back the hate,dearie...Hope u dont hurt any 'rich bitches' or 'drag queens' on your way home from Jeff's re-hab sob story party....Thanks for the venom.....
WhataJoke
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Oh I wasn't saying that Laura should have won! OMG completely the opposite! I was responding to this statement by another poster...{The real theme is that on TV being an A-hole is a asset}

That is why I said if that were true, Laura would have won.





It was not ablout the overall winner. Laura was never in real danger of getting the boot. Jeff's mom outfit was clearly the worst of that contest and probably the whole season and even though the Mom liked her outfit the sent the TV bland Robert home. The finals get expanded because Jefferys beer wench outfit sucked so bad they had to expand it or lose all credibility. His personality created Drama and that drama kept him on the show. Its a common theme in all these reality shows. Unfortunately this was the first show I remember where the ass wins, probably because of his past sob story which he repeated ad nausium.

Oh well we can always make fun of his mullet.
GiovanniDino
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It's official.

I hate Project Runway.




Me too. What a waste.




I agree.

PR has little credibility and I suggest that is one of the reasons it did not win the Emmy Award for best reality as it is not reality tv just an edited version. Jeff should have been out at the Mom challenge (albeit Angela and Darlene could have a volume written) or then at the black and white challenge as it was black and white not black-white-and pimp.

The budget stuff, the questions posed by Laura, Michael and Uli (it was not only Laura but Michael and Uli who raised the doubt question) hold a cloud over the decision.

For me, Michael and Kayne and Robert held the moral compass for this season. And I need to pass on PR and then Bravo.

Heidi, Michael and Nina - YOU ARE AUFED!
Rupert_G
You might as well kiss the days of The house of Channel goodbye, and say hello to gas station junk hello.

This quote was just downright incoherent. If I hear one more person swear that they will never watch PR or bravo ever again I will scream. Honestly people, what's the deal? Michaels collection had like five of the exact same tops, the only reason to defend him is because you like his personality.
dcben1
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Karma's a [expletive deleted]. The right man won, and the slanderous drag queen wore a devasted expression when she was booted that was absolutely priceless. Uli also did a great job. And "darling" Michael showed his true colors joining in with Laura on the accusation against Jeffrey and in a thoroughly trashy collection.

Hundreds of man hours of beading, rich [expletive deleted] with 5 kids, and SHE'S accusing Jeff of cheating? As Kayne said, "I worry about your character, which is far worse." I think her output should have been equally scrutinized by the producers. Again, in the immortal words of Vincent, "Why don't you stick those Harry Winstons up your nose?"






I question the character of posters like you.
bravojunky
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I wasn't wowed by Jeffrey's collection nor did the audience seem to be. They really seemed to like Laura's and Uli's collection better. I'm beginning to think Kors and Nina are idiots. Uli should have won it.




That's because the audience goes by who they like more as a person, and not who the best designer is.......look at the rate the runway results...Michael has higher scores than Jeffrey and his collection was very dissapointing. Jeffrey was the more innovative, and you don't become a big designer by doing what others have done already. Uli was also amazing and it was a very close call. I think the judges made their choice based on innovation more than marketability and you can disagree with that, but no doubt Jeffrey is a very talented and creative designer, even if his personality leaves much to be desired.




Ugly does not =innovation anymore than rudeness=competition.I agree with the spirit of fairplay.Someone said that if Laura had not brought up the issue of cheating,would anyone have even thought about it.
But on the other hand,if Jeffrey had not made such an issue on camera about his sloppy and obviously poorly managed past,would his collection even made it to the runway.Methinks not! He didnt truly win on talent,unless u consider manipulating people to be a talent....Now,there,he might be 'innovative'.
And if u listen to the audience,u hear applause for some of Laura's pieces and some of Uli's pieces,but Michael's and Jeff's got nada,for any outfits.




Ugly is subjective......you say ugly, judges say pretty. We all have friends who think they dress real well and we disagree. Some people think Picasso's paintings are ugly, some think they are amazing.......if you study art history, wheather you think they are beautiful or ugly, you cannot deny the immense contribution to art he made, because he created a new aesthetic, pushing beyond what has been done before. That's why innovation is rewarded and judging goes beyond a subjective sense of beauty.
Troi
I registered just to tell someone, anyone, that I absolutely adore Laura's pieces. So effortlessly chic and timeless! They most definitely appealed to a mid-twentysomething woman such as myself. Moth balls and soup?

I love her work and think she is amazing. Go, Laura!

Oh, yeah. Congrats to Jeffrey. *yawn* His final pieces were very well put together *ahem* and some were quite lovely but I'm not overwhelmed by his work. Quite the contrary.
dcben1
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I am very disappointed that Jeffrey was chosen the winner.
It doesn't seem fair that he broke the rules and was rewarded. He knew that he was to stay within the budget. If the shorts' receipt had materialized then he would have been even more over the budget. I still don't know that he actually sewed all of his collection. I don't think there is any way to know. As far as his collection, I felt it was very disjointed. The long dress was a horror. Many of the other items looked like pieces thrown together from a closet of odds and ends. A cohesive collection it wasn't!

Uli's collection should have won in my opinion. It all flowed together and was very wearable by many women. It appealed to a wide audience and will be very successfully marketed with or without the win. It was heartbreaking that Project Runway decided to go weird again instead of recognizing a great real fashion designer.




Seems to me that PR would WANT to award a designer whose clothes would sell anywhere, as they said several times about ULI. I just don't get the outcome, though, unfortunately, I wasn't surprised.
d213817
Well, im very pissed off by the judges choice. Jeffrey's collection sucks!!! Judges suck too!!! Who on Earth would like that s$%t? The guy is an arrogant [expletive deleted] and doesn't have taste at all! It's a pity that talented people are dismissed and tacky people like him will be in design industry. And i would like to see new and more thoughtful judges next season cause these leave much to be desired!!!

The only way to explain this decision is that it was a sympathy win, all the tears and boo-hoo's. What a joke! I'm sure that Uli will find financial backers and be an even bigger success than this clown Jeffrey.
WhataJoke
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Karma's a [expletive deleted]. The right man won, and the slanderous drag queen wore a devasted expression when she was booted that was absolutely priceless. Uli also did a great job. And "darling" Michael showed his true colors joining in with Laura on the accusation against Jeffrey and in a thoroughly trashy collection.

Hundreds of man hours of beading, rich [expletive deleted] with 5 kids, and SHE'S accusing Jeff of cheating? As Kayne said, "I worry about your character, which is far worse." I think her output should have been equally scrutinized by the producers. Again, in the immortal words of Vincent, "Why don't you stick those Harry Winstons up your nose?"






I question the character of posters like you.




Yeah exactly.

Based on everything whe have seen of him if there is Karma he's in deep trouble lol.
oscarsimon
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this is my first post, and rightfully so.

I always been routing for Jeffrey because of his innovation and edginess, but eventhough I liked his show, I was expecting more. It's too bad about the accusations -- I thought having the models wearing matching wigs would be a great distinctive touch.
Laura's runways was very refined but that was it -- the music (which was great) remined me of Kara Sahn's show, proabably the same composer. Very vintage and little innovation.
Michael's was surprisingly a bit too gaudy and lacking in taste, I was expecting more -- the models were definately the hottest and really moved well.
Uli's I thought had the best all around show. I thought she would win because her's design was the most commercially marketable and something would sell in the stores.
Congrats to Jeffrey, he deserved it!






YES! Jeffrey deserved to win!!!!!!

This is not a popularity contest - - or a pretty contest - - or an elegant contest.

This is a best innovative with a future design contest.

And that is Jeffrey.

It means nothing that you hate him.
FireStitch
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Unpopular sh!t stinks too---like Laura's collection and what the Republican party has done to lose their votes. Muhahahaha





The Republican congress for all their faults like their loathsome devotion to the religious right have an excellent economic record for which they just do not get enough credit.

Beginning in 1995 the Republican congress forced Clinton Admin reign in the budget, that was what the 95 gov. shut down was all about. They cut taxes and expended free trade when big Unions opposed it. This led to the record budget surpluses of the 90s.

The SEC under the Clinton did not police the dot.com bubble and swep the threat from Al Qaeda under the rug. Both problems which were years in the making exploded in the first year of the Bush Admin. Yet the Republican congress did not loose its nerve it passed the additional needed tax cuts when they were needed, held spending as much possible against demands of war, recession, and hurricans,... and now again the budget is speeding toward surplus.

Plus, we have record closings in the stock market which unlike the Clinton stock market is based on companies that actually make profits.

Whatever the mess is with the war quitting is not the answer. John Murtha went to the Clinton White House after Mogadishu and urged a pull out. Clinton did.

Osama bin Laden pubically sited that Clinton/Murtha decision as proof America is a paper tiger.

BTW, I am not a republican. I am a moderate libertarian independent and the Democrats have nothing to offer except cynicism and that is not good enough. Politics is not sentimental or emotional to me. Unfortunately, there is going to be a lot of emotional voting this November.
mel1205
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If you have ever seen a real runway show (outside of project runway) the clothes aren't exactly what you would see in stores - they are inspiration for a line yet to come. Therefore, innovation and artistic talent is the key. That is what Jeffrey offered. That is why he won. No one else matched that level of creativity and inspiration.




This is my first post here and probably my last. I am not a fan of reality shows, but Bravo's Project Runway is really the only TV show that I make a point to watch. Finally a reality show that exhibits true talent and innovation.

But fashion, like most everything else in this world is a subjective thing. The beauty of fashion is in the eye of the beholder.

And with that, I wanted to comment on the explanation of runway designs being "inspiration for a line yet to come".

Whatever. For me, I deal in the real. I'm not into ecliptic innovation and bizarre angles and uneven length and layered cloth with no sense of order. Save that for Paris runways.

That crap doesn't play in Peoria and the rest of the country outside of NYC. I like clean lines, good use of color and prints and well sewned garments.

Therefore, what some will call Jeffery's 'innovation' is my vision of garbage. Great for punk rockers but limiting for the rest of the world. Clearly Uri won and she was not someone that I would have given a chance to win. Her collection was well designed, well sewn, well fitted and well planned.

And within the rules of the competion. In season 1, Kara Saun was edged out by Jay because of her decision to use those Doll House shoes. Now maybe she would have lost anyway, but at least I could understand the decision.

Jeffery went overbudget and while he removed some items from his collection to 'make it fair', in my opinion, the damage was already done. And what is interesting is that the budget thingy probably would have been overlooked had it not been for the investigation into whether he actually sewed his own design. While I am very critical of Laura for making accusations of that kind without basis, it does make me wonder and I will always have question marks about it.

But the bottom line is I just hated Jeffery's work. On the runway and thru out the season, with the exception of the recycle challenge which I felt he should have won.

I take issue to PR's final decision.
straighteye
Fashion long ago ceased to be about style and beauty and became a mysogynistic caricature of itself. PR just proved that tonight. Laura and Uli produced some of the most stunning dresses I have ever seen, they were classy, sexy and all about the female form.

Sobelia's selection was a joke on women everywhere...
dcben1
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I am amazed.

Really - - I am truly amazed at the negativity and emotions - - - because your favorite person did not win. I'm not talking design - - I'm talking personality. Your favorite personality did not win.

You need to rise above personality - - editing - - beauty - - etc.

And seriously look at design concepts and innovation.

This is not a popularity contest. It is a design contest.




It is a design contest, supposedly. But IMHO the best designer didn't win.
tie17
Uli, Uli, you will make it like no other.i said this about daniel powter( bad day) and kelly Clarkson(because of you). and they did it and will be doing it. stick to it.your collection was neat,perfect and you could have done no better.your exceeded the level you had portrayed.the variety and your target on women could not be was a perfect success.do what you are doing ,it is the right thing.you are not doing anything wrong.that is you ,your work is unique.Santino
changed, and followed the judges advice but they let him down.
the results were disappointing but hey, for some people things do not come that easy.lets just hope they make their expectations very clear as well as following their rules.
if i ever become a model ,i will find you and i and flunt your clothes so people see it on me and go "wow,where did you get that from"?-just like the way i felt when i saw you collection one after the other and i could not stop shivering.
your uncertainty outburst your will,desire, passion... and yes the result was excellent and perfect.the judges missed out on this!if mike Kors loved it and Heidi could wear them all,you should know what that sums up to.
whats confusing is, if Santino did not win why did Jeff win?out if pity??????? or just to keep the show interesting??????
and if you were not win, WHO is the winner?
GOD,to make a wish is stupid, if not i would have.
Get to work Uli,we all are dying for it! Where have you been?
YOU HAVE MADE IT BIG
WhataJoke
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Fashion long ago ceased to be about style and beauty and became a mysogynistic caricature of itself. PR just proved that tonight. Laura and Uli produced some of the most stunning dresses I have ever seen, they were classy, sexy and all about the female form.

Sobelia's selection was a joke on women everywhere...



Unles they are looking to score a role in Poison's next video. lol
fooey
I love the way Laura tried to buddy up to Jeffrey after she learned he was NOT the cheater she said he ways. She really makes me mad. Jeff and Uli rocked it tonight, they both deserved to win.

Laura should go home and complain some more about not having enough money to start a business while she sits in her multi-million dollar loft. Maybe her husband should make a few million more dollars for her this year. Poor poor Laura.
oscarsimon
What's with the politics? I am a life long Goldwater Republican - - - and I hate Bush.

What the hell does that have to do with Project Runway?
carolina19
No one cut say it better jeffrey is not a designer do not now fashion not point of view not art the other 3 they ar on his way michael and uli jeffrey is a wan to be $$$ Adios
gadget
I just checked in to see how everyone else is taking the win on PR.

I have to say I'm dissapointed. Although Micheal was my favorite up until the finale, which I thought Uli nailed. Laura didn't do so badly either, but Jeffrey wasn't my pick. I think he's talented and am glad he's getting his life turned around but not my pick. And it looks like I'm not alone.

Do you ever wonder why women put men ahead of so many decision making positions for women? I mean, has a woman won PR yet? And with 2 women judges. Why is that?

No wonder men find us confusing. We constantly tell them they don't know us but we give them control over industries that are specifically geared for us! What's up with that?

I know he's not dictating fashion alone and there are many women in the business but he WILL influence fashion for the near future. Call me crazy but it just seems like a woman would know what women will want to wear.

I mean, the make-up artist was a man, the contestant's mentor(so to speak) was a man.
fashncrimevictim
Good question! I thought I had entered the message board twilight zone when I read the former political tirade. Stick to the program people!
Raymondo
Ugly is subjective......you say ugly, judges say pretty. We all have friends who think they dress real well and we disagree. Some people think Picasso's paintings are ugly, some think they are amazing.......if you study art history, wheather you think they are beautiful or ugly, you cannot deny the immense contribution to art he made, because he created a new aesthetic, pushing beyond what has been done before. That's why innovation is rewarded and judging goes beyond a subjective sense of beauty.



Yes,so that's why Kors said he judges on each individual outfit,but referenced past outfits @ every judging.And I truly can appreciate what u're espousing here,but innovation should be rewarded if it's truly innovative.There was nothing innovative in J's colection,it was derivative at best,calling on every punk(and pop) cliche.And last season,Daniel was busted for not making his point clear.Where were Jeffrey's Japanese dreams?There was no color or music to his rather boring,and poorly thought out collection.As Nina would say:"I'm sorry.I just don't see it here.'
WhataJoke
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I just checked in to see how everyone else is taking the win on PR.

I have to say I'm dissapointed. Although Micheal was my favorite up until the finale, which I thought Uli nailed. Laura didn't do so badly either, but Jeffrey wasn't my pick. I think he's talented and am glad he's getting his life turned around but not my pick. And it looks like I'm not alone.





Bingo we should just refer to season 3 as Project Rehab.
MsRyan
Amen to That

After tonight.......I will never be a faithful supporter of Project Runway. The first season was a disappointment, and I still continued to watch. However, it was blatantly clear that the top three were Uli, Michael, and Laura. I thought Jeffery would have been the first out. Not only did they keep him....he had a horrible attitude the whole season, he was definitely inconsistent, the majority of the viewers didn't vote for him, there was suspicions about his integrity, and he went way over budget. Aside from all of those things, he was already successful in his own personal endeavors, and it is very obvious that he only appeals to one specific sector. If this show was intended to relate to normal people as well as fashionistas (is that a word?), and celebrities, the people the producers chose for judges were not reaching out to the what the viewers wanted, and damn sure was not Jeffery!

Now, on the other hand, Laura was definitely consistent throughout the whole season. Although I agree with the judges saying she needed to broaden her horizons, you cannot deny she is an excellent designer. What she did in the finale was phenomenal! Though her main focus was on evening wear. She changed it up for those "Red Carpeters". No one can deny that the lace dress with the pants was innovative, her signature piece was right on time, and carefully put together with colors and detailing. If I had a "Red Carpet" event, I would definitely give her a call first.

My roots are South Floridian, and Uli's designs portrayed my environment growing up to the "T" when spending all of my holidays in lovely sunny Florida, and I loved her simplistic, yet glamorous combinations. They would be great pieces, but those would be the things that I would buy only to wear once.....just for "oooh's and aaaah's" But her pieces were sensational!

Although I really wanted Michael to win, (I expected Uli to take home the victory after watching the fashion show)only because he was consistent throughout the whole season, and he knew a womans body so well, it almost made me question him, and scared me at the same time. I absolutely loved Michael the entire season. However, his finale collection was not what I expected from him, he makes things that every women could and would want to wear. I know he is good, and he is way beyond "potential". Potential is for a teenage girl/boy who is pretty good, but still needing a little more soul searching. For Heidi to say that to him was a real insult, I even took it personal.

My reason in sending this email is, without the viewers, there would be no 'Project Runway' I think the show should be based on how the viewers feel at least a little, versus what 3 snobbish judges believe is good. What the network and producers need to realize is that all 'Project Runway' viewers do not read Elle Magazine, and all viewers do not look like Heidi Klum after 1 or 2 babies, and all the viewers do not wear Michael Kors (I do, Kudos to Michael! (smile.gif
So, in saying that, 'Project Runway' is supposed to be a stepping stone for an aspiring designer....Hell, look at the prizes: mentorship......$$$ to start their own line....and a fashion spread in one of the top magazine publications! I and many others, am sure that this final decision was definitely bias. If it wasn't for the type of audience that Elle reached out to, and what is in this season or following seasons to come in and out of fashion, the grand prize should have been awarded to either Michael, Laura, or Uli. I am sure they could have really used the mentoring from I.N.C. that would have helped them, and given them the opportunity to learn more, and broaden their collections, and develop them professionally in the fashion world. Jeffery on the other hand has a pretty successful business appealing to his rock star clients, and it is obvious that he is not going to steer away from that anytime soon. His collection was not as good as the others. And for you to look at all the time and energy the other three spent on their work without the help of outsiders, they did exactly what they envisioned and stayed under budget. While Jeffrey on the other hand had help. That is very unfair. Hell, Laura did beading and sequins by herself. She put a lot of time into her work and you would have never imagined the pieces she had come down that runway to come from an amateur. I feel the same about Uli's choices in accessories and details, her line was very thought out and executed wonderfully. And with Michael, he came back to NY, made changes, and still pulled his designs off. He really made you feel like "damn...I would buy and wear that a few times..." as did Laura and Uli. Jeffrey was way out of the hemisphere for a lot of people. His line was built celebrity specific....It was interesting, but nothing I would consciously put effort into buying.

Don't be misunderstood by my opinions, I know last season Chloe, my fellow Houstonian won, and she has her own business as well (Where I have been a faithful shopper for many years! Love Lot 8! ) But, no one can deny, Chloe was consistent to the very end, and she earned that grand prize. Hands down, she was the best there. Now I did love Daniel just as much, but bottom-line, Chloe set the bar every single challenge. She earned and deserved to win last season. Now first season, Austin was my absolute favorite, but I understand why he didn't win (too way over the top a lot of the time, but wonderful as well), but to choose crazy ass Jay was just ridiculous, his line was not as good as the others at all.

My suggestion is maybe in future seasons they should chose another magazine for the spread, maybe another designer judge, and hell someone to help Heidi. Just to change the environment a little. It just seems like the panel is too biased, and it is unfair to the contestants. I think there should be 2 to 3 types of designers judging, and maybe a magazine that has a variety of consumers that they reach out to all in one magazine.

Those are just my thoughts, but I do know unless something changes, I will not be watching Project Runway again.
Jadis
[Quote]Do you ever wonder why women put men ahead of so many decision making positions for women? I mean, has a woman won PR yet? And with 2 women judges. Why is that?[Quote]

It's called Project Runway season 2. You PR noob.
stephanienyc
I love that the creator of Olympus fashion week so often disagreed with Nina and Michael. Especially telling Uli and Laura that there's nothing wrong with focus. HA! Take that! I wonder who her choice for winner was.

And I don't understand how anyone decided that Jeffrey didn't cheat because of his receipts! Come on! Who is going to keep evidence of cheating? And what if people in his shop sewed his collection - there wouldn't have been any receipts then, would there have? Nope. No matter what the judges said, Jeffrey is a loser.
witticizm
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PR has little credibility and I suggest that is one of the reasons it did not win the Emmy Award for best reality as it is not reality tv just an edited version. Jeff should have been out at the Mom challenge (albeit Angela and Darlene could have a volume written) or then at the black and white challenge as it was black and white not black-white-and pimp.

The budget stuff, the questions posed by Laura, Michael and Uli (it was not only Laura but Michael and Uli who raised the doubt question) hold a cloud over the decision.

For me, Michael and Kayne and Robert held the moral compass for this season. And I need to pass on PR and then Bravo.

Heidi, Michael and Nina - YOU ARE AUFED!




I agree. Jeffrey CLEARLY should have been auf'd in the episode that decided who was showing at Fashion Week. His red, white and blue monstrosity was UNANIMOUSLY hated by ALL the judges yet they didn't auf him -they didn't auf anyone. Not fair. If his was the worst design of the challenge, he should have been sent packing. Then he goes and breaks the rules. Does he get auf'd then? Nope.
Bravo, your show is without integrity. You are auf'd. I will not be watching again.
tie17
yeah you are right project runway is disappointing but from the last season, i realized they are loosing.what keeps people there is just to see fashion.poor judgement,how could micheal kors even let that happen?????? i like jeff an his style , but the is limited to that, guess got it on already!Ulis was like a new born , destiny....
velvetchs
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Amen to That

After tonight.......I will never be a faithful supporter of Project Runway. The first season was a disappointment, and I still continued to watch. However, it was blatantly clear that the top three were Uli, Michael, and Laura. I thought Jeffery would have been the first out. Not only did they keep him....he had a horrible attitude the whole season, he was definitely inconsistent, the majority of the viewers didn't vote for him, there was suspicions about his integrity, and he went way over budget. Aside from all of those things, he was already successful in his own personal endeavors, and it is very obvious that he only appeals to one specific sector. If this show was intended to relate to normal people as well as fashionistas (is that a word?), and celebrities, the people the producers chose for judges were not reaching out to the what the viewers wanted, and damn sure was not Jeffery!

Now, on the other hand, Laura was definitely consistent throughout the whole season. Although I agree with the judges saying she needed to broaden her horizons, you cannot deny she is an excellent designer. What she did in the finale was phenomenal! Though her main focus was on evening wear. She changed it up for those "Red Carpeters". No one can deny that the lace dress with the pants was innovative, her signature piece was right on time, and carefully put together with colors and detailing. If I had a "Red Carpet" event, I would definitely give her a call first.

My roots are South Floridian, and Uli's designs portrayed my environment growing up to the "T" when spending all of my holidays in lovely sunny Florida, and I loved her simplistic, yet glamorous combinations. They would be great pieces, but those would be the things that I would buy only to wear once.....just for "oooh's and aaaah's" But her pieces were sensational!

Although I really wanted Michael to win, (I expected Uli to take home the victory after watching the fashion show)only because he was consistent throughout the whole season, and he knew a womans body so well, it almost made me question him, and scared me at the same time. I absolutely loved Michael the entire season. However, his finale collection was not what I expected from him, he makes things that every women could and would want to wear. I know he is good, and he is way beyond "potential". Potential is for a teenage girl/boy who is pretty good, but still needing a little more soul searching. For Heidi to say that to him was a real insult, I even took it personal.

My reason in sending this email is, without the viewers, there would be no 'Project Runway' I think the show should be based on how the viewers feel at least a little, versus what 3 snobbish judges believe is good. What the network and producers need to realize is that all 'Project Runway' viewers do not read Elle Magazine, and all viewers do not look like Heidi Klum after 1 or 2 babies, and all the viewers do not wear Michael Kors (I do, Kudos to Michael! (smile.gif
So, in saying that, 'Project Runway' is supposed to be a stepping stone for an aspiring designer....Hell, look at the prizes: mentorship......$$$ to start their own line....and a fashion spread in one of the top magazine publications! I and many others, am sure that this final decision was definitely bias. If it wasn't for the type of audience that Elle reached out to, and what is in this season or following seasons to come in and out of fashion, the grand prize should have been awarded to either Michael, Laura, or Uli. I am sure they could have really used the mentoring from I.N.C. that would have helped them, and given them the opportunity to learn more, and broaden their collections, and develop them professionally in the fashion world. Jeffery on the other hand has a pretty successful business appealing to his rock star clients, and it is obvious that he is not going to steer away from that anytime soon. His collection was not as good as the others. And for you to look at all the time and energy the other three spent on their work without the help of outsiders, they did exactly what they envisioned and stayed under budget. While Jeffrey on the other hand had help. That is very unfair. Hell, Laura did beading and sequins by herself. She put a lot of time into her work and you would have never imagined the pieces she had come down that runway to come from an amateur. I feel the same about Uli's choices in accessories and details, her line was very thought out and executed wonderfully. And with Michael, he came back to NY, made changes, and still pulled his designs off. He really made you feel like "damn...I would buy and wear that a few times..." as did Laura and Uli. Jeffrey was way out of the hemisphere for a lot of people. His line was built celebrity specific....It was interesting, but nothing I would consciously put effort into buying.

Don't be misunderstood by my opinions, I know last season Chloe, my fellow Houstonian won, and she has her own business as well (Where I have been a faithful shopper for many years! Love Lot 8! ) But, no one can deny, Chloe was consistent to the very end, and she earned that grand prize. Hands down, she was the best there. Now I did love Daniel just as much, but bottom-line, Chloe set the bar every single challenge. She earned and deserved to win last season. Now first season, Austin was my absolute favorite, but I understand why he didn't win (too way over the top a lot of the time, but wonderful as well), but to choose crazy ass Jay was just ridiculous, his line was not as good as the others at all.

My suggestion is maybe in future seasons they should chose another magazine for the spread, maybe another designer judge, and hell someone to help Heidi. Just to change the environment a little. It just seems like the panel is too biased, and it is unfair to the contestants. I think there should be 2 to 3 types of designers judging, and maybe a magazine that has a variety of consumers that they reach out to all in one magazine.

Those are just my thoughts, but I do know unless something changes, I will not be watching Project Runway again.





What about having a regular "everyday" woman on as a judge each week? They supposedly think about this person all the time, why not have her help judge? Mix it up a bit.
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What's with the politics? I am a life long Goldwater Republican - - - and I hate Bush.

What the hell does that have to do with Project Runway?




Sorry, it drifted from an off hand remak that I made about being dissapointed with the out come of competitions.

FTR, I am not disappointed with Jeff winning on a desgin level.

BTW, I dont think people often know what they mean when they say that they are Goldwater Republicans. Goldwater is the Republican who broke the old tradition of Republican support for minorities when he based his 1964 presidential campaign on opposition to civil rights. In that campaign he carried five southern states breaking the Democractic solid south. Nixon then ran in 1968 with a "southern strategy".

But, you are right. No more politics. Email me if you want to go there.
longbow99
I am really not the type of guy that would ever watch a show like this. I didnt watch a single episode of the first 3 seasons. My Wife is a huge fan and I watched the 2nd or 3rd episode this season with her and got hooked. I can tell you the only reason I was intrigued was Jeffery, he was the only "Real" guy on the show the rest of them seemed like actors and played to the cameras. Jeffery was himself like it or not. I guarentee that he could care less what everyone on this board thinks of him or his clothing. Look him and his company up on the web you will see he is already a fashion mogul. Hollywood and Musicians already wear his line. Uli was also awsome and I was thrilled to see her last up there with Jeffery. Lara and Michael definatly have talent and deserve kudos but they where not in the same league as Uli and Jeffery. Jefferys clothing is cutting edge and your either going to love it or hate it, There is no middle ground and thats why he won. Unusual-Inovative-Creative should have been his three words.
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I love that the creator of Olympus fashion week so often disagreed with Nina and Michael. Especially telling Uli and Laura that there's nothing wrong with focus. HA! Take that! I wonder who her choice for winner was.

And I don't understand how anyone decided that Jeffrey didn't cheat because of his receipts! Come on! Who is going to keep evidence of cheating? And what if people in his shop sewed his collection - there wouldn't have been any receipts then, would there have? Nope. No matter what the judges said, Jeffrey is a loser.




LOL yes I'm sure that sweatshop workers always give out recipts.
mel1205
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Ugly is subjective......you say ugly, judges say pretty. We all have friends who think they dress real well and we disagree. Some people think Picasso's paintings are ugly, some think they are amazing.......if you study art history, wheather you think they are beautiful or ugly, you cannot deny the immense contribution to art he made, because he created a new aesthetic, pushing beyond what has been done before. That's why innovation is rewarded and judging goes beyond a subjective sense of beauty.



Yes,so that's why Kors said he judges on each individual outfit,but referenced past outfits @ every judging.And I truly can appreciate what u're espousing here,but innovation should be rewarded if it's truly innovative.There was nothing innovative in J's colection,it was derivative at best,calling on every punk(and pop) cliche.And last season,Daniel was busted for not making his point clear.Where were Jeffrey's Japanese dreams?There was no color or music to his rather boring,and poorly thought out collection.As Nina would say:"I'm sorry.I just don't see it here.'



I agree with you. Jeffery's 'Japanese dreams' explanation alone should have cost him. There was nothing remotely similar to a Japanese dream or Japan or a dream -- period. Jeffery's detailing was tight, but then I still wonder if Laura wasn't right all along, although I think she was hellva wrong for putting Jeffery on blast like that without basis. The producers clearly had a hand in the decision and PR ought to be up front about their role in the decision making process. Clearly it's not just the damn judges here.

I think that instead of having a viewer's choice award on the most popular designer (although Michael was and is my favorite, although he lacks a vision for concept and he needs development -- the judges were right about that, but he clearly has the raw talent to make it), PR should have a viewer's choice designer after their collection has been shown. If they want to pick the far out and fanatical, fine.

Just let the viewers pick the real winner.
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I love that the creator of Olympus fashion week so often disagreed with Nina and Michael. Especially telling Uli and Laura that there's nothing wrong with focus. HA! Take that! I wonder who her choice for winner was.

And I don't understand how anyone decided that Jeffrey didn't cheat because of his receipts! Come on! Who is going to keep evidence of cheating? And what if people in his shop sewed his collection - there wouldn't have been any receipts then, would there have? Nope. No matter what the judges said, Jeffrey is a loser.




I really thought the Olympus fashion week creator was the most interesting guest judge they've had so far.She was concise without being evil,she didnt miss any tricks,and she even pulled off a decent aside or two,without hurting feelings.She did a great job!Kudos to her.
Pity Jeff won,though.
Wendy_Williams
Ditto! See ya Pr.
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I love that the creator of Olympus fashion week so often disagreed with Nina and Michael. Especially telling Uli and Laura that there's nothing wrong with focus. HA! Take that! I wonder who her choice for winner was.

And I don't understand how anyone decided that Jeffrey didn't cheat because of his receipts! Come on! Who is going to keep evidence of cheating? And what if people in his shop sewed his collection - there wouldn't have been any receipts then, would there have? Nope. No matter what the judges said, Jeffrey is a loser.




I agree about the creator of Olympus fashion week. I'm glad she disagreed with Nina and Michael. The results of this show has depressed me. The two I didn't want to see in the top were in the top with Jeffrey winning. I liked Uli but after that move she made when she switched models she lost all points with me. I thought that was in bad taste since it was near the very end. Plus she put the model who had worked with her in a bad situation and caused her to have to leave. And on top of that, Uli had the nerves to say she's sorry. Yeah whatever! I am done with the show. I can now watch Laguna Beach without having to flip channels since it comes on at the same time as PR. lol.

And of course Jeff wouldn't leave any evidence. I strongly believe he cheated and can't believe they made him the winner. It really bothers me that Keith was kicked off for having books but Jeff was allowed to stay and win. On top of that, no one knew if Keith used the books to help with the challenges.
malissa1959
I can't find the words...but empty.


Uli clearly should have won from what the public was shown. Nazri was robbed but I'm certain she will be sucessful without PR.

Thank you for giving us 4 at the show...but honestly I feel so empty. For the second year in a row I just can't see their vision. Then again, I'm not the editor of Elle or Michael Kors but for the collection and the next big designer - give me Uli over that rude bore Jeffrey.

Laura's collection was so real as well...and her choices of model/outfit was spot on.

Please PR, give Tim a bigger role and ditch the comic designers.
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