jitteryjewel
October 19, 2006 - 06:50 AM
The decoy show is so viewers don't know who was in the final three of the season since fashion week always happens before the final three episode airs! This year no one knew it was going to be a finale four.
Ginevra
October 19, 2006 - 06:51 AM
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Whew! Just saw the show and boy what a surprise. I'm wondering if Tim Gunn had something to with the outcome.
Here is my Critique.
Uli definitely won. Jeffrey has been innovative but his show was just ok. Michael Kors is what stopped Uli from winning. Uli has a real future. Her clothes were just as innovative as Jeffrey's, but Kors saw something intangible in Jeffreys designs and I don't think it had much to do with collection, but with his past work. I agree that Jeffrey is innovative, but the fact that he went overbudget and that his show wasn't great should of stopped him from winning. Plus, his show wasn't that cohesive. They didn't like two of his outfits and yet, they said it was the most cohesive. It didn't make sense.
Laura was major suprise. I don't care if she is a limited designer. She may be, but clothes like that deserve praise. The woman has got it.Her collection was awesome and my best wishes.
Now for Michael. He is probably the nicest guy I have ever seen on Project Runway but his collection was tacky. It looked like it came from a bubble gum machine. I fealt really sorry for him. You can tell he has not found himself yet. But I'm sure he will. Good things happen to good people. Michael you are good person and a great designer with a great future.
Overall, this season has been a rollercoaster ride and the climax has been a let down. They didn't actually judge the collections, but past work. I agreed with the first two seasons, but I don't agree with this. The best collections were Uli's and Laura's (surprise), yet, the judges didn't seem to care. I liked the guest judge for the last episode, but I think Kors got his way. Uli you got rooked and many people know it.
Every one of the designers surpassed themselves, some more than others.
When Jeffrey's collection came out, I was impressed - he really did have some great looks. But I didn't see any overarching "vision" or "cohesion". A batch of the same print in different dresses, followed by something completely unrelated. Overall it was prettier than his usual look; I would have given it 2nd place. He won, and I don't think he deserved it, but it's not a total travesty. I'm more disturbed by the fact that they bent the rules and didn't auf him on the last challenge; he shouldn't have been there at all.
ULI, YOU WERE ROBBED!! Her looks all tied together, yet were incredibly versatile. I was worried that it was going to be too monochromatic, but there were some of her trademark fabulous prints, too. But what really blew me away was the sportswear - beautifully fitted pants and shorts, with wonderful draping on the tops. She totally transcended her previous styles, and I doubt she'll ever go back. I wish she'd mixed the prints in with the solids a little more, in order to tie the collection together a little more. But it was still much more cohesive than Jeff's, with the underlying safari theme always present.
Laura - WOW! I was disappointed that she eliminated most of the color from the collection - what happened to that great red jersey number? And she overdid the black feathers. But my God - the range of silhouettes! Every dress had a different shape, and they covered all age ranges. There was truly something there for virtually any woman to wear for a special occasion. And the green pegnoir was mercifully absent.
I think Laura got exactly what she wanted from PR. By the time they got to Bryant Park, she knew she wouldn't win, because of her lack of range; but that wasn't her goal. She got to display her very strong point of view and aesthetic to the fashion world, and I'm sure it will pay off for her.
Michael - well, it was kind of disappointing, though I don't think it deserves to be dismissed as "hoochie wear". He's a young guy still trying to find his own voice, and is bound to only get better with time. I loved some of his prints - that gold and orange was something Uli might have used! And I liked the way he started out with all white pieces, then gave us an explosion of color. Michael and Kayne both have the skill and willingness to learn that will assure them great careers in fashion, if they're willing to do the work - and I know they are.
I really don't understand the judges' decision. When they did the little interviews with designers in the audience, Uli was the overwhelming favorite. Heidi said she'd wear every one of the outfits. Fern - the best judge of the season, BTW - didn't find the resort theme too limiting at all. Yes, the competition is supposed to be fashion forward. But the prize is supposed to be a startup for a line of ready to wear. Uli's stuff is very stylish, yet totally real world; what chance is there that any of Jeffrey's designs will end up translated into real woman sizes, and be marketed at Macy's? I predict that the 3 "losers" will still be producing wonderful, wearable clothes years after Jeff's little fantasy costumes are consigned to the vintage stores.
excellent critique boomette
I have to agree with boomette, she said things so much better than I could have. But i also have to add my own 2 cents.
The judge tht started fashion week was the best judge ever. She told people the good things about their collections and she gave CONSTUCTIVE critisisum. She didn't put people down, just to put them down.
In my opinion, Jjeffery won becuse the judges or bravo or some one wanted him to, not because he was the best. So what if he had had a drug problem and almost commited suiside, I've known others who have been there,pulled them selfs out of it and they do not treat people as mean as he does. He uses that as an excuse to get away with being mean.
His style will not last, Laura or Uli or Michael's are clothes every woman would be proud to be seen in. And isn't the bottom line of fashion sales? I would love to know how to get in touch with Laura or Uli or Michael and own one of there gowns.
jayfan
October 19, 2006 - 06:51 AM
Last year it was 3 in the finale. And we all know the fashion show was before the finale so all went to a website and saw all the pics form the tent show. On that site they showed 4 of them. That is was the decoy is all about. The tent show was Sept 15 this year and I too went on the site and saw the clothes. Hope this answers your question.
tamarinden
October 19, 2006 - 06:52 AM
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Jeffrey's designs sucks ass!
And we see how you got your name...
You must be one too because you like your clothes made by crackheads like Jeffrey. His designs sucks ass.
Carole is a Laura fan, like me. But she has class and what do you have to speak like that ?
javweb
October 19, 2006 - 06:53 AM
Jeffery won....with the lowest of the viewer scores (as far as ranking his runway disgines)....his stuff is horrible! Laura stuff was beautiful...but very limited. Michael wasn't his usually brilliant self (damn it! I really wanted him to win!) Uli (sp) was great...he stuff was beautiful...she should have won hands down. At any rate i'm sure we will see her in the stores...if they want to make some money...if not..you will see jeffery's line!
vuduchile
October 19, 2006 - 06:54 AM
Sorry, but it's the designers who have "edge" who do something unconventional that keeps the fashion industry turning, starting new trends. Jeffey's customer is known as what is called an "Experiencer"-she's the first to try an new style that often the masses don't get until it works it's way up the fashion chain and becomes a trend and possibly in time a classic of tommorow! So don't knock Jeffry's style - it could be
what you'll be sporting five years from now!
WAY TO GO JEFFRY!!
DaveNebraska
October 19, 2006 - 06:55 AM
Yet again a good example of that old maxim - Those who can do, those who cannot teach/judge.
I think there is little doubt that Jefferey had help on his collection and that there were many times that he should have "cleaned up his workspace". I do not know whether it was just the fact that having a complete jerk like that around helped the ratings. After all how many times did we hear the so called judges express the fact that he totally ignored the intent of a challenge. As for the mother incident well no one with any taste at all could deny that his was by far and away the ugliest thing EVER seen on the runway.
Possibly next series you could spice things up and actually get some judges with atleast SOME taste.
tamarinden
October 19, 2006 - 06:57 AM
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We had a 'Runway Party' to watch the finale and were quite disappointed in the judges final decision. I think it is really odd that the judges keep telling the designers to push the envelope, to show something that illustrates what the designers are all about and feature what they excel at -but- when the competitors actually do it, showing us some very outstanding collections, they get thrashed for it. Uli or Laura should have taken the title, hands down - superb collections! I still did not see the 'fashion story' (which Michael Kors always seems so preoccupied with) on Jeffrey's part, except that the producers had to pump up Jeffrey's personal story to try and make us more compassionate towards him perhaps?. Somehow, when they started to weave that whole side story (about him being a reformed heroin user), I already had the distinct impression they had set us viewers up to show us who they had chosen to win the competition. ANYWAY ... back to the runway ... as for the finale, when designers such as Uli and Laura show such exquisite, stunning and drop dead gorgeous clothing (with incredible workmanship to boot) and then to have their show pieces chucked to the wayside in honor of what was ultimately selected as the grand prize winner, it is a sorry statement of what our American fashion scene is really about. I do believe the two women finalists will have solid careers in fashion and hope their phones are ringing off the hook already, they really are spectacular and deserve far more worldwide recognition. Michael got lost somewhere along the way, I really thought at the beginning of the season that he was the one who was going to take home the gold, however, despite this turn of events, he should see success as well, he has the right attitude and his clothing always showcases a woman's body very well. Jeffrey may indeed see a short run of success, given the spotlight of this TV show, but ultimately, he is overly trendy and when you are trendy, like Heidi says, "One day you're in, and the next day you're 'aufed'." I guess it is now in the hands of us, those who actually go out and purchase the clothing, to really determine who is in and who is 'aufed.'
excellent post thank you
heavynumbertaco
October 19, 2006 - 06:58 AM
Laura's designs are boring and mundane."Her sewing is impeccable,oh she sews so well"what's new?Michael was a huge disappointment.He's a nice guy,but I question his devotion when he says fashion is his life,but takes a month off before starting work on his collection.Jeffrey is kinda now, kinda wow,kinda Charlie.Deal with it.However Uli should have won IMO,her line WAS innovative IMO,beautfiul and appealing.But that's the fashion industry for ya.Oh and does Laura's husband look like that nutty professor from some video game or what.Or was it her dad.Just curious
crackbaby
October 19, 2006 - 06:59 AM
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Yet again a good example of that old maxim - Those who can do, those who cannot teach/judge.
I think there is little doubt that Jefferey had help on his collection and that there were many times that he should have "cleaned up his workspace". I do not know whether it was just the fact that having a complete jerk like that around helped the ratings. After all how many times did we hear the so called judges express the fact that he totally ignored the intent of a challenge. As for the mother incident well no one with any taste at all could deny that his was by far and away the ugliest thing EVER seen on the runway.
Possibly next series you could spice things up and actually get some judges with atleast SOME taste.
The judges on America's Next Top Model would'nt have picked Jeffrey, LOL! Maybe they should fire Heidi and the gang for Tyra and her gang.
Ginevra
October 19, 2006 - 07:01 AM
I'm sorry but i can't see someone coming back to Jeffery's designs in 20 years and being inspired by them. He is not a Channel or a CK.
Also, you may want to sell to 'youth' but face it, none of us are getting younger, I want to see a designer that makes a mature woman look hawt and feel sexy. Laura, Uli and Michael did that.
Also, look what happened in Spain and think about how that may chnage the industry. No more super skinny models. (and I am a really skinny woman) Personally I'd like to see models of all shapes as REAL women come in all shapes.
tamarinden
October 19, 2006 - 07:03 AM
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I cant see the average women wearing Laura clothes. As she said in stead of jeans wear a black t-shirt dress to the store. Yeah I see that all in WalMart, even at the mall. Women in black t-shirt dresses. No. Uli I have said it before have seen that look in South Fl as that is where I am from. Well that is where I grew up and still have family there. I really thought the 2 guys would be left standing. Yes Micheals was OK I did like a couple of his things. Remember the guest judge even said Uli's was RESORT WEAR. Enough said. Get ready for season 4. I pick Tim Gunn to win that one. lol
Jayfan do you think the average woman would wear Jeffreys stuff? You are misguided.
Read the reviews. ALL the women would wear Lauras or Uli's stuff. Why does anyone need a designer to make clothes for going to Walmart? But at least Laura has the right idea, American women need to start wearing stylish clothes and leave the sweats at the gym.
If I want high fashion, Ill choose Laura or Uli any day. If I want to go to walmart, I will not be wearing a designers clothes. I will definitely wear riding clothes before jeans.
vrasdurub
October 19, 2006 - 07:04 AM
Well, the Runway judges did it again - proved that they judge based on personal taste and desire for something "out there" as opposed to something wearable by any but a limited few. Even Tim's comments on his "Take" showed his own preference for the avant garde as opposed to artistic yet commercial.
This was the last episode I'll ever watch of Runway. It's strayed far too far from any semblance of reality in real-world fashion. This season made no sense.
The only chance I'll ever watch again is if Heidi, Michel Kohrs and Nina are all replaced.
Make it work? Bravo failed miserably this time around in my opinion.
CavalliBoi
October 19, 2006 - 07:05 AM
I will watch it again no matter what i may say in here. I do however believe the judges, producers whoever would get it together and decide what it is they are looking for. I mean every year they get rid of these people that at the end is just what they are looking for. I mean if fashion forward is the call of the day why is Kayne or the guy with the weird laugh gone. I think Kayne's gold number was hot or maybe I am just tacky but I know had Fendi sent it down the runway they would have praised it. I say this to next year's contestants play it smart be conservative to the end and do not tell your sob story until you are going to Fashion week it almost gaurantees a win.
I will say this I am not a fashion guru and do not claim to know every thing about it how. However I have been shopping and reading fashion magazines and Jeffery has been done in fact at the VMA's every rock star had on the stretch pants that Jeffery kept designing and I have seen all of those cloths before. I wish I would have kept the old mags. If he would have had BoDerek for his icon day he would have one because his hold collection looks like he took it from her closet.
I loved Micheal to death and I would have bought his jet setter design, however when i was looking at the show i knew he was not going to win. His cloths were to hood rich. I think he needs to sit back next time and think about who is judging if he wants to win and design what they want to see or do like he did and stay true to who he is at this moment.
Uli the girl is the most graceful first loser (second place) that i have ever seen and personality aside, she surprised the hell out of me. I would love to see a young lady and her cloths. She really has done things to a sarong that i never thought I would live to see. She has a wonderful I and I am happy the tropic seen inspires her because as a person that lives and that weather most high fashion is uncomfortable there.
Laura's designs are different I mean he stuff his not young granted but it is something that older or more dignified women can wear and be sexy yet comfortable in. There is nothing wrong with designing for that crowd I mean I would put my mother and her cloths. It reminds be of Chanel for some reason. I mean Kors' fashions are not exactly for the young I wouldn't wear them hence the name I am more a Cavalli, Armani, Custo kind of guy.
The judges saw something in Jeffery that I obviously did and still do not see. I think the fashion world is just scared that they will do what the painting world did to Picasso and Cezanne, but there is a time for everything and I feel that Jeffery is designing twenty to thirty years to later to be considered fashion foward or innovative.
TishTheFish
October 19, 2006 - 07:08 AM
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Jeffery won....with the lowest of the viewer scores (as far as ranking his runway disgines)....his stuff is horrible! Laura stuff was beautiful...but very limited. Michael wasn't his usually brilliant self (damn it! I really wanted him to win!) Uli (sp) was great...he stuff was beautiful...she should have won hands down. At any rate i'm sure we will see her in the stores...if they want to make some money...if not..you will see jeffery's line!
Michael tried to make every design sexy - rawgh! There was a serious lack of taste shown in his collection.
Laura's designs were the same thing she had shown before - great craftsmanship but limited appeal unless your over 40.
Uli had some beautiful and some boring pieces but it was clearly resort wear. That's her strength and she'll do well.
Jeffrey showed a complete collection that was both innovative and beautiful. He deserved the win.
BTW - I wouldn't put too much into the viewer's choice as we never had a say in the winner anyway.
leila4spirit
October 19, 2006 - 07:09 AM
Very well deserved win; and, I am so glad the guest judge was the creater of Olympus Fashion Week and not some TV personality!
beechlapper
October 19, 2006 - 07:09 AM
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Jeffery won....with the lowest of the viewer scores (as far as ranking his runway disgines)....his stuff is horrible! Laura stuff was beautiful...but very limited. Michael wasn't his usually brilliant self (damn it! I really wanted him to win!) Uli (sp) was great...he stuff was beautiful...she should have won hands down. At any rate i'm sure we will see her in the stores...if they want to make some money...if not..you will see jeffery's line!
This is Project Runway, Not American Idol. The masses don't necessarily know anything other than the edited view they have been given. Many are swayed by personalities more than knowledge. I was amazed that the largest percentage of the voters thought Michael should win when his collection was the weakest of all four. Most of the designers felt Uli should have won (I would accept their judgments much more readily than the text messagers).
There is more to fashion than just popularity, demographics and market share. There will be a lot more demand for Jeffrey Sebelia's clothing than he can ever hope to fill.
Ginevra
October 19, 2006 - 07:13 AM
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I cant see the average women wearing Laura clothes. As she said in stead of jeans wear a black t-shirt dress to the store. Yeah I see that all in WalMart, even at the mall. Women in black t-shirt dresses. No. Uli I have said it before have seen that look in South Fl as that is where I am from. Well that is where I grew up and still have family there. I really thought the 2 guys would be left standing. Yes Micheals was OK I did like a couple of his things. Remember the guest judge even said Uli's was RESORT WEAR. Enough said. Get ready for season 4. I pick Tim Gunn to win that one. lol
Jayfan do you think the average woman would wear Jeffreys stuff? You are misguided.
Read the reviews. ALL the women would wear Lauras or Uli's stuff. Why does anyone need a designer to make clothes for going to Walmart? But at least Laura has the right idea, American women need to start wearing stylish clothes and leave the sweats at the gym.
If I want high fashion, Ill choose Laura or Uli any day. If I want to go to walmart, I will not be wearing a designers clothes. I will definitely wear riding clothes before jeans.
I agree with you. American women need to leave the sweats at the gym. I have had folks tell me, you can't wear that, you are to old....I say , like the European women, if I have the body for it, I'll wear it.
crackbaby
October 19, 2006 - 07:13 AM
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Jeffrey showed a complete collection that was both innovative and beautiful. He deserved the win.
Yes, crackheads all over the world loves Jeffrey!
nykolus
October 19, 2006 - 07:13 AM
jeffrey's win was a disgusting and extremely disappointing end to a highly questionable season of project runway. ahmet.
i knew laura wasn't going to win, but damned if her collection wasn't amazing!
uli & nazri were robbed. while not my favourite, she clearly had the thing won, in my opinion.
and michael... one word always comes to mind when i think of his collection: bootylicious. i don't know why, it just does. what happened michael?
and tim gunn cried. he cried! how sweet is he?
i now have serious reservations about season 4...
beechlapper
October 19, 2006 - 07:16 AM
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Jeffrey showed a complete collection that was both innovative and beautiful. He deserved the win.
Yes, crackheads all over the world loves Jeffrey!
Spoken like a true Crackbaby ...
Ginevra
October 19, 2006 - 07:16 AM
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Jeffery won....with the lowest of the viewer scores (as far as ranking his runway disgines)....his stuff is horrible! Laura stuff was beautiful...but very limited. Michael wasn't his usually brilliant self (damn it! I really wanted him to win!) Uli (sp) was great...he stuff was beautiful...she should have won hands down. At any rate i'm sure we will see her in the stores...if they want to make some money...if not..you will see jeffery's line!
This is Project Runway, Not American Idol. The masses don't necessarily know anything other than the edited view they have been given. Many are swayed by personalities more than knowledge. I was amazed that the largest percentage of the voters thought Michael should win when his collection was the weakest of all four. Most of the designers felt Uli should have won (I would accept their judgments much more readily than the text messagers).
There is more to fashion than just popularity, demographics and market share. There will be a lot more demand for Jeffrey Sebelia's clothing than he can ever hope to fill.
I think Michael was the most popular because he showed the most skill, he showed improvement and a willingness to learn and grow. Though I like his collection is was a little weak.
crackbaby
October 19, 2006 - 07:17 AM
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Jeffrey showed a complete collection that was both innovative and beautiful. He deserved the win.
Yes, crackheads all over the world loves Jeffrey!
Spoken like a true Crackbaby ...
Jeffrey's my dad.
jayfan
October 19, 2006 - 07:18 AM
I would not wear either of them as I am not a Rich [expletive deleted] nor a fat old South Fl woman. I really t hink Jeffery was the best and now that i saw them up close on the Today show that was not polka dots it was apples. They were cute. I do wear my jeans to the store as my Riding pants are at the cleaners. As all my friends and I wear them to pick out kids up from school. I see them all over. Give me a break. Now go get your riding pants on and go to the mall everyone.
1greyparrot
October 19, 2006 - 07:19 AM
WOW! What a Finale!!!!!
Of the limited glimpses we were shown of the designers collections on Episode 13, I thought Jeffery's were far and away the best, followed by Laura, Uli, then Micheal (p.u.).
That said, when I saw Uli's collection coming down the runway last night my jaw dropped to the floor! Of the final 4 designers, throughout the season, I liked her clothing the least...and now THIS! Every single peice in her collection was absolutley stunning. Jeffrey may have won (far be it from me to 2nd guess these judges) but if Uli sticks to this wonderful new aesthetic, she is going to go VERY far.
vuduchile
October 19, 2006 - 07:20 AM
If your going to argue that point of view then none of the collections were truly innovative. They all had elements of stuff that has been done before. Laura's stuff still looks like yves st larent redux. Uli's stuff is verry Roberto Cavelli-esque and one of her green dresses looks so much like the Cavelli J-lo wore a few years ago it was scary! Some of Muchaels' did too!
When Alexander McQeen Came out some of His stuff was very Vivienne Westwood. Now She is truly an innovator- i will agree
with you on that!
Jeffry has been toiling a way quietly and he needs to take it to the next level to avoid just being an L.A.designer. Kudos to him for having the balls to stick his neck out!
crackbaby
October 19, 2006 - 07:21 AM
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Those were apples? Now I'm really sick! Thanks a lot!
beechlapper
October 19, 2006 - 07:22 AM
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Jeffrey showed a complete collection that was both innovative and beautiful. He deserved the win.
Yes, crackheads all over the world loves Jeffrey!
Spoken like a true Crackbaby ...
Jeffrey's my dad.
Vincent Libretti is posting on the boards again...
Flitt
October 19, 2006 - 07:23 AM
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Jeff won. The Democrats will win in November. Sh!t happens. Tommorrow is another day.
You mean....Jeff won. The Republicans won twice...!
jitteryjewel
October 19, 2006 - 07:24 AM
The judges told the designers what they wanted to see from them before they left. Did they they take their advice? Laura herself basically said "Yes I understand what you wanted me to do but I did what I wanted to do anyway because it is what I like." I simplified the phrasing but when has telling Nina and Michael that you know more than them ever gone over well (think Santino people!) Michael totally colapsed on himself when he was pushed. Now how many people have come on here since pictures of fashion week have been released and said Michaels collection disappointed them? If your disappointed how do you think the judges felt. Michael was the favorite and on a pedastal before the finale. And he couldn't even balls up for a defense he hid behind inexperience. No denial by him! He agreed with them!
Uli suprised me because she did do what the judges said and presented variety with her own flavor. But she to went back to the same explaination about designing for Miami. How many times have the judges said "We get it already!" I think her designs were most marketable but not the most innovative.
Now Jeffrey did exactly what the judges told him and if anyone else noticed that he was the only one Tim didn't have a bad thing to say about when visiting. Later it came out he thought it ambitious but that's only bad if you don't deliver.
Maybe it makes Jeffrey look like a kiss ass to do what they wanted but didn't you guys say he need to be more accomidating to the clients?
Review the judges past concerns and comments and tell me I'm lying. Personally I thought that Jeffrey was not going to win because he was least popular. This seemed to be the most disturbing thing to me from past seasons the judges would recommend one way and then changed then act like they didn't have a clue what happened when the designer followed suit! And as far as fashion and taste read my prievious post about fashion week!
crackbaby
October 19, 2006 - 07:24 AM
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Vincent Libretti is posting on the boards again...
I'm too young to be Vincent. I told you that Jeffrey's my dad. Duh!
CavalliBoi
October 19, 2006 - 07:25 AM
I totally agree with you accept about the Jeffery designs we have all seen them twice before in the last and than again in this century the 70's and the 80's have been done and redone. In fact I think some of my mothers old cloths are missing from the attic and i swear I do not have them. JEFFERY!!!!!!!!!!!
jackiema
October 19, 2006 - 07:25 AM
I am very very very happy for Jeffery!!!! I love his collections~~~ Congratulations Jeffery!! Your collections is hip with many different varieties!! I am so happy for you, hope your clothing will be for sale @ the stores soon!
jayfan
October 19, 2006 - 07:26 AM
yes they really were they showed them up close.
Tankthemoroncat
October 19, 2006 - 07:29 AM
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EXACTLY!!!!!! I can't believe how many people are so narrow-minded and thinking about this on a television show level. This is serious business! Fashion design is not about who we like but where fashion is going and what's going to take it there!
I dont hate Jeffrey. I dont care for his designs for the most part. I think he made a whole lot of fugly the entire season. But, this is REALITY TV. Of course we judge him by his personality, as well as his designs. As for all the hate, I suggest going back to the 313 thread and count all the "Laura is a [expletive deleted]/is jealous/should be kicked off/" etc... type things stated by the Jeffrey supporters vs. the non Jeffrey fans. Im not happy Jeffrey won but nothing I can do about it. It is what it is,
brillke
Well, if reality tv is what you look at on this part, then you should have kept Allison or someone else who is very sweet and doesn't stir the pot.
My point of view is from what I heard from the judges, saw from the season, and see on runway shows for the most part.
As I have said before, I had a hard time figuring out who might win but I kept coming back to Jeffrey for being innovative and having a collection that was very diverse in a sense. No, most women won't wear it, but the ideas are there for the clothing in some sense.
I will also add for the person who has questioned some of us Jeffrey fans....
I didn't join the boards until Laura accused him. I found the board when I searched for any information on the outcome.
Trust me when I say I am not related to, know, know anyone who knows or have any connection to Jeffrey (or Kevin Bacon) at all. I just started watching a television show.
I have to say this however, I see a lot of posts that lack a sense of maturity and I wonder how many children are on here. (Not saying you Brillke, that's a general comment) Saying things like "sucks" sounds like a kid.
I'm also not saying that Laura's clothing was not beautiful. Some of it was! I thought the long lace gown thing over the black tights and a lot of the other items were very pretty. I just don't think it's what PR wanted!
I heard the judges and what they wanted. That's my standpoint.
There are a lot of high fashion designers that would have been cut from PR if you look into their collections for this year.
If you want to see what was predicted "DESIGNERS TO WATCH" and what they looked like maybe you'll understand where I'm coming from:
http://nymag.com/images/2/fashion/fashions...nersguide/1.jpg
I will say that I thought Michael was awesome during some of the season but his BP show made most of the girls look like [expletive deleted].
lasttime
October 19, 2006 - 07:29 AM
I am extremely disappointed in the outcome of Season 3, so much so that it almost makes me feel ill. I am very sad that it turned out this way. I got hooked during Season 2, and was so much looking forward to the finale last night, but with this turn of events, I know that I will never watch this program again. Generally Bravo gets it right, but I just don't want to be so disappointed or disgusted again. I just can't support this show anymore. Extremely disappointed.
crackbaby
October 19, 2006 - 07:30 AM
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Yes my dad's so creative. Just wait until you see his Dilldo line. It will blow you away!
TishTheFish
October 19, 2006 - 07:31 AM
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I can't believe he won. I am so sick of his language...even when he won he had to use language that is bleeped on the television. He may be talented but he has no class whatsoever. I would not be surprised if he loses some clients that he currently has over the vile language he has used throughout this show.
Wow...can you hear us all the way back there in the 50's?
Ha, pretty funny. You have to wonder what world some of these people live in.
Nobody said that you had to be nice to be successful. Look at Pablo Picasso - he was a real ass but you can't deny his talent.
jayfan
October 19, 2006 - 07:35 AM
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yes they really were they showed them up close.
Yes my dad's so creative. Just wait until you see his Dilldo line. It will blow you away!
Man you are SICK. Dont answer this TROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jitteryjewel
October 19, 2006 - 07:36 AM
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I totally agree with you accept about the Jeffery designs we have all seen them twice before in the last and than again in this century the 70's and the 80's have been done and redone. In fact I think some of my mothers old cloths are missing from the attic and i swear I do not have them. JEFFERY!!!!!!!!!!!
This reminds me of a quote I just heard but I know has been rephrase a million times "It there any such thing as an original movie script?" I think fashion is much the same. Same old crap brand new bow. The Innovation isn't the actual design but how it's regifted. I bet I could take anything on the runway today and find it somewhere else in history. You don't think people don't look at Laura's stuff and think reminds me of something my grandma wore? Just because it's inspired by an era or group doesn't make it a fashion sin!
TishTheFish
October 19, 2006 - 07:38 AM
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Jeffrey showed a complete collection that was both innovative and beautiful. He deserved the win.
Yes, crackheads all over the world loves Jeffrey!
Are you talking to me? Crazy crackbaby.
I do love him but alas I'm not a crackhead.
crackbaby
October 19, 2006 - 07:46 AM
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Are you talking to me? Crazy crackbaby.
I do love him but alas I'm not a crackhead.
Come on now. Don't be bashful. Join the crowd.
jitteryjewel
October 19, 2006 - 07:48 AM
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yes they really were they showed them up close.
Yes my dad's so creative. Just wait until you see his Dilldo line. It will blow you away!
We get it Crackbaby you hate Jeffrey and think he sucks! I'd ask what's up your ass but from your quote above I'm sure we all have a good idea.
Oh BTW I don't like to go here because I find it base and uncalled for to be so crude but alienating people who agree with you from a design aspect isn't the best course of action. I'm suspecting that if your name implies anything to your personal history we should all assume we have your mother to thank for this?
vuduchile
October 19, 2006 - 07:50 AM
Then why didn't she win?? Bad karma maybe?
crackbaby
October 19, 2006 - 07:51 AM
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Ah well....We godda' TOP CHEF it till next season.......Did you see the question they asked last night?..'Who will be this years villian'????
AHA..They know we need one.
Oh yeah! Did you see that dumbass that said she was picked to be on the show because of her looks. Who the hell cares about what the chef looks like. Just cook trick, cook!
gustav1
October 19, 2006 - 07:52 AM
For those in the know Jeffrey did het help on his sewing and a few items. My mother has assisted him on several items for the show. Seamtress from our country tend not to speak much english but do talk. Though, Jeff's design definitely rocked the LA scene here for sure! He did get help which is untruthful... It's clear he should have won.. But, still let's keep it real..
crackbaby
October 19, 2006 - 07:56 AM
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We get it Crackbaby you hate Jeffrey and think he sucks! I'd ask what's up your ass but from your quote above I'm sure we all have a good idea.
Oh BTW I don't like to go here because I find it base and uncalled for to be so crude but alienating people who agree with you from a design aspect isn't the best course of action. I'm suspecting that if your name implies anything to your personal history we should all assume we have your mother to thank for this?
Jeffrey's my dad! You Dillweed! Don't hate! Just wait til you see his new punk line with ribbons tied through nipple rings. You'll love it!
coloraturamom
October 19, 2006 - 07:57 AM
Innovation and creativity - yes. After watching last night I have to say that I had a better understanding of Jeffrey's personality and even though I still think that he spent much of the season being wantonly rude to the other designers, his background explains much. Laura let her competitive nature run amok in those later pregnancy months (her venom may have been more mannerly, but she turned out to be shockingly cruel as well - "not questioning your integrity"? what would you call it, Laura, when you accuse someone of cheating??)
All that aside, though, when I checked out the collections two weeks ago, I thought it would be Uli or Jeffrey. They had the most cohesive and innovative collections. Laura is good at making pretty things - she has one creative vision with minor variations (and I agree, OCD to boot), albeit one that would sell. Michael is still throwing darts at his creative dartboard - he will find his true voice, as he has a good eye and is bubbling over with ideas.
In the end, Jeffrey was the designer ready to take the next step - Uli is right on the edge, IMO. They will all go somewhere. I'll still watch next season, because I love to watch the creative process in action. I love when reality TV actually presents talent to the world!
vuduchile
October 19, 2006 - 07:57 AM
I think Jeffrey deserves an apology from Cruella Deville, I mean Laura!! Still it was very satsifying to see the stupid look on her face when Tim announced that they found no fault with Jeffry and it was oh so fake the way she try to back pedal and say she wasn't wuestioning his integrety and she was happy he was still inthe game.. and trying to hug him... what a load of B.S.! Jeffrey showed true grace in his response and he ulitimately has more class in his heroin stained pinky that she does in her whole Noveau riche Lurch- like body!
P.S. KArma is a MotherF**Cker!!
mskayjay
October 19, 2006 - 07:57 AM
I'm shocked.... I've tried very hard to understand what the judges were thinking, read opinions here and elsewhere and I just don't get it. Ultimately, after all the shows, after all the designs I do not recall ONE of these esteemed judges saying that they would either wear one of Jeffrey's garments or in Michael Kors case that he would put it on a gf or wife. How many times did Heidi say she would wear things the other three designed. Ditto with Nina and many of the guest judges.
Is there something wrong with solid design style that people know is yours? I love Lauren, JonesNY, Anne Taylor because they are classic and appeal to me. I don't look for trendy, growing, changing, blah blah blah..... I look for quality. If I want trendy I'll go to the H&M or any regular department store brand! There is a huge market for the elegance Laura shows, the subtle free-spiritedness of Uli, even Michael's across the board stuff (he actually showed more "full line" stuff than anyone!).
For those who like Jeffrey and are happy for him, congrats. Ultimately though, save yourself some money. Wait a few months after his line comes out and then check the clearance racks. That is where you'll find his stuff. His designs are not mainstream or high level niche enough to sell and I can foresee a huge sale coming.
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