pinkpenguin
October 19, 2006 - 10:59 AM
I think they were talking about the look on her face, which I'm shocked they were able to see with their head so far up their arse! It it blatantly obvious that Jeffrey cheated, and if anybody here read People magazine they would already know that. Right before the reunion special aired, People ran a small story on the whole "did he or didn't he" drama, and Laura discussed why she was so suspicious of him and his "work". Apparently, Laura's mother and Jeffrey's mother (PS: How did such a classy lady produce such crass???) became close during the mother challenge, and continued to stay in contact during the show's hiatus. During that time Jeffrey's mother mentioned that he had quite a bit of OUTSIDE HELP in finishing his collection. . . .
Naturally, Laura's mother forwarded this information, and so Laura was already suspicious when she arrived back in NY, and only expressed her doubts when Jeffrey showed up with hideous clothes that were sewn far too perfectly for him. Laura has consistently shown exquisite clothing that was perfectly sewn throughout the competition . . . I would expect nothing less than labor-intensive beading and sewing from her final collection and while I don't believe she had the best collection, the judges didn't doubt for an instant that she did all her work herself becuase her work was a level above the whole time!!! And next time you're trying to sound intelligent, don't quote Vincent. It's entirely self-defeatist and makes you sound about as sharp as the Leader of the Free World . . . .
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October 19, 2006 - 11:00 AM
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FINALLY! Someone who knows what they're talking about.
No one is knocking Laura and Uli's designs. They are beautiful.
Its just not what you want in an innovative up and coming designer.
I am tired of this innovative crap. Uli and Laura are innovative too in their own genre and style. You need to be innovative to make beautiful outfits that design-wise have the taste of familiarity so they don't look boring and repetitive. Uli and Laura pulled it off, period. If innovation means weird and SERIOUS UGLY and no sane woman will wear his design, yes J won in that dept. Shame on PR. One minute the judges talk about "knowing a woman's body" another minute they drivel about "innovation" even when it means innovatively UGLY and in no way the designer knows a woman's body or taste!!
I agree. "Innovative" doesn't mean shredded shirts, green stripes. That kind of thing appears "innovative" only to people who don't have knowledge of designers and design, thus lack context. Nothing "innovative" Jeffrey did, not one single thing, was something I haven't already seen another designer do. Someone mentioned Betsey Johnson, that's a great comparison. The striped dress was like something right off HER runway. Anyway, the most innovative thing I saw in the collections last night was the beading on Laura's dress with the green sash - the way the color of the beading gradually turned green on the bodice close to the belt. Small detail yes, but I have NEVER seen that before. And I've been following couture since I was 14 years old (I'm 39 now) and have worked professionally as a stylist in the past. In contrast, if someone is completely unfamiliar with all the designers Jeffrey copies from, then they really have nothing to base their opinion on in saying he's "innovative".
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October 19, 2006 - 11:03 AM
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did anyone else notice that throughout the season, laura never once let the viewer forget about her wealth and glamour and was never seen without some item from louis vuitton but when a katherine ross from lvmh (luis vuitton moet hennesey) was asked her opinion after the four shows, she thought jeffrey offered the best show and was the most innovative....HA! congrats to jeffrey
Mindofman... your statement above makes no sense to me at all. Laura was being who she is, she just happens to have money, be glamorous and has some LV luggage. Was she supposed to run out to KMart and get some luggage so that she could be more like the "common man". She is who she is. I don't believe that she thought because she has money, that would be an "in" for her and all the fashion icons would automatically vote for her. She is being chatized just as much as Jeffrey is but for the opposite reasons. People are blasting Jeffrey because of his past drug life, his blunt vulger language (I think he has a very soft side in him), and Laura is being blasted because she is affluent. I don't get any of it. I feel they both presented themselves honestly, they are who they are, AND were judged based on their designs, period.
Tankthemoroncat
October 19, 2006 - 11:06 AM
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Hey Tank!, How U doin?!?!, Great show huh, I love all the design, talk about really showing their individuality! Bravo to all of them!
OT** Have you seen Jeff's website?, love his men's Apparel for Fall! Love those Tees!
I have seen his website and he's got some really great clothes for the younger crowd. I loved some of the clothes in his show - that blazer with the leather pants was great! It reminded me of Crissy Hynde from the Pretenders!
I found out this afternoon that my mother (in her 60's) and my older sister have been watching PR when I said the kids and I were up late last night watching a show and explained. She said "OMG! Who won?!" and when I told her she was thrilled, as was my sister. They love Jeffrey and I have to admit that shocked even me! LOL!
oscarsimon
October 19, 2006 - 11:07 AM
The high empire waist and baby doll dress is the hottest thing right now.
In case you did not know that.
Adelheide
October 19, 2006 - 11:09 AM
Well. I'd hang with a "rock star personality" any day over a "department store mannequin" type like Laura
jitteryjewel
October 19, 2006 - 11:10 AM
Just hitching!
But really people go to the Olympus Fashion week website. They have videos of most of the other designers shows. I went back and every designer that was a guest judge or judge check out their collections and get back to me.
http://www.olympusfashionweek.com/spring20...2007/intro.htmlHow many of those designs would be considered marketable to the everyday woman? Just curious?
Tankthemoroncat
October 19, 2006 - 11:11 AM
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The high empire waist and baby doll dress is the hottest thing right now.
In case you did not know that.
The shirt cut like this is extremely hot! For God's sake look at what Heidi and Laura were wearing!!!
oscarsimon
October 19, 2006 - 11:20 AM
OK - - PLEASE - - - explain to me how Laura's and Uli's designs were innovative.
Adelheide
October 19, 2006 - 11:22 AM
Well if that was in an article, keep in mind that words can be taken completely out of context to make a story more interesting. Controversy keeps the story fresh in the mind of readers and viewers.
The main point though, If the producers say they did an exhaustive search, then who are you to question that. Laura was proven wrong, so let's all move along. Nothing more to see here.
VelmaLu
October 19, 2006 - 11:24 AM
Project Runway just affirms my belief that fashion is no longer about making women look beautiful, it has become a hedonistic artform. Models are merely coat hangers with heads.
The dress stands alone as an independent piece of art, the woman wearing it is secondary.
Decades ago, fashion was about designing clothes to make women appear more elegant, adventurous, sexy, chic. Think Chanel. The fashions women wore made a statement about her; now designers create fashion to make a statement about themselves.
It doesn't matter if it looks good on only six women living on the planet -- this is deemed to be fashionable for almost everyone. If it doesn't look good on you, that is your fault.
And this is what passes for style. Even if it doesn't translate into something wearable for women, it is deemed "good", "worthy" and even "desirable."
What percentage of fashionable women in America would choose anything out of Jeffery's line over Uli's or Laura's? The MODELS didn't even look good in it.
The judges COMPLAINED that Laura's work was "impeccable" and that her designs were timeless and classic. Her construction was perfect. Most had hours of hand work. Laura's designs were the stuff of fashion back when it was about excellence.
Make no mistake -- the judges are telling us that fashion is no longer about quality. It is no longer about luxurious fabrics (think of Jeffrey's picnic basket evening gown). It is no longer about owning a piece to enhance your wardrobe and be worn for years to come.
And it certainly is no longer about making women look beautiful.
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October 19, 2006 - 11:28 AM
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Jeffery did not deserve to win!! The only people he knows how to design for are the streetwalkers from his beloved LA!!
Sorry, Michael Knight already has that market cornered ....
Now if you said the LA rock crowd or the punk crowd , I might agree with you.
Adelheide
October 19, 2006 - 11:30 AM
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you. I will give you an example....
There is a store right now with the initials ATL - the clothes are retro-chic with a lot of edge for the new woman. They look great on all sizes and shapes. So, artistic clothes do sell.
dands
October 19, 2006 - 11:30 AM
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Well if that was in an article, keep in mind that words can be taken completely out of context to make a story more interesting. Controversy keeps the story fresh in the mind of readers and viewers.
The main point though, If the producers say they did an exhaustive search, then who are you to question that. Laura was proven wrong, so let's all move along. Nothing more to see here.
They did an exhaustive look at the receipts. That is real credible, isn't it? If Jeffery had been stupid enough to put a receipt for the extra help in his envelope, they would have busted him! lol.
kjones
October 19, 2006 - 11:32 AM
hi can anyone tell me the name of the song playing during Uli's show?
Adelheide
October 19, 2006 - 11:34 AM
You are completely speculating. If it didn't happen, then you have nothing to complain about.
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October 19, 2006 - 11:34 AM
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I'm sorry to burst all you Jeffrey fan's bubbles, but the only reason he remained on the show is becuase of the producer's power. The final decisions of judging all had to go through them
That is NOT correct.
Read the fine print on the closing credits and you might think otherwise.
I have read the closing credits; but every one of the judges have said they would revolt if the producers tried to interfere in the judging. And I believe them; their egos and fashion knowledge being called into question would demand a revolt.
dands
October 19, 2006 - 11:42 AM
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I'm sorry to burst all you Jeffrey fan's bubbles, but the only reason he remained on the show is becuase of the producer's power. The final decisions of judging all had to go through them
That is NOT correct.
Read the fine print on the closing credits and you might think otherwise.
I have read the closing credits; but every one of the judges have said they would revolt if the producers tried to interfere in the judging. And I believe them; their egos and fashion knowledge being called into question would demand a revolt.
I am sure the producers don't say "this is how you are going to vote". That is not to say that the producers don't have any influence. If its a toss up as to who wins, or a toss up as to who goes, I am sure the entertainment value is factored in. And the fact that they get to be on television feeds those big egos.
haji81872
October 19, 2006 - 11:42 AM
I love how people come on and still claim Jeffrey cheated. Must have cheated, it is the only possible way he could have won, right?
Please give it a rest he did not cheat.
I could easily say that Laura cheated and have as much credibility as any others accusations.
In fact I will do just that, Laura cheated, she used her boys to help sew the beads. Nothing any of you can say will change my mind. I shall now put my fingers in my ears and stick out my tongue as I pout.
Hey this is kind of fun.
GoGoGo
October 19, 2006 - 11:43 AM
I can understand where you might disagree with Jeffrey winnging because he went over budget, but to even consider that his win had anything to do with his past is ridiculous. If you think drug addiction is going to get you any sympathy in the fashion industry you are surely mistaken. Do you really think that his story is anything new to these people? Come on, now!
Stop crying.
haji81872
October 19, 2006 - 11:44 AM
ceemee
October 19, 2006 - 11:47 AM
Wow... thanks so much!!!
dands
October 19, 2006 - 11:48 AM
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I love how people come on and still claim Jeffrey cheated. Must have cheated, it is the only possible way he could have won, right?
Please give it a rest he did not cheat.
I could easily say that Laura cheated and have as much credibility as any others accusations.
In fact I will do just that, Laura cheated, she used her boys to help sew the beads. Nothing any of you can say will change my mind. I shall now put my fingers in my ears and stick out my tongue as I pout.
Hey this is kind of fun.
And you know he did not cheat because you were standing by his side the whole time, right?
ceemee
October 19, 2006 - 11:49 AM
Thanks so much for your help.
Adelheide
October 19, 2006 - 11:49 AM
LOL. That was funny
Adrian
October 19, 2006 - 11:50 AM
i cant believe jeffrey won
michael and uli got rob yesterday heidi klum shame on u
Adelheide
October 19, 2006 - 11:51 AM
And were you there to prove that he did and Laura did not? Oh come on. Get over it.
IURobbie
October 19, 2006 - 11:54 AM
I'm so psyched...this was absolutely the best choice...throughout the competition Jeffrey has been the best, with Uli (besides the mom's challenge, granted) but I think his collection was the most unique and the youngest. I am a 21 yr old, rock chic and that's exactly the kind of clothes that I would like to wear. Be able to dress up and dress down without feeling generic, which is what i got from everyone else's collection except Jeffrey's
tamarinden
October 19, 2006 - 11:57 AM
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The high empire waist and baby doll dress is the hottest thing right now.
In case you did not know that.
The shirt cut like this is extremely hot! For God's sake look at what Heidi and Laura were wearing!!!
Laura designed her own dress as she always does
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October 19, 2006 - 12:00 PM
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"Long time listener; first time caller" and all that.
I will never watch this show again.
Yeah Right...lol
I said the same thing last year when Nina told Santino that his collection was not Santino enough after riding him all season to not do the Santino thing. But alas I came back lol!
I agree. That inconsistency from the judges is part of what is driving me away from this show. I faithfully watched season 1, but I am now down to catching only the very beginning and the very end.
The judges talk about outfits that just don't make sense in a collection right before they talk about it all fit together. They will criticize a designer for not showing any range and then go after another for not being true to themselves. They will praise one aspect of a design and then condemn the same thing in another outfit.
I could go on about how differently they treated Keith vs. Jeffrey, but I’ll save that for later.
GoGoGo
October 19, 2006 - 12:00 PM
I hope someone comes by soon to change your diapers!
babies.
Adelheide
October 19, 2006 - 12:04 PM
And why would you direct that comment to me?
hootie1fan
October 19, 2006 - 12:06 PM
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Every designer from this show is now a household name...
In whose household?
The only time I see the past PR finale winners is when the finale on the next season of PR airs.
The runners up do a bit better, but so far there has been no real superstar and i think that is eating up the producers.
mchris65
October 19, 2006 - 12:07 PM
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Jeffrey won
God's in his heaven, all's right with the world.
Who's your god, Satan?
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October 19, 2006 - 12:08 PM
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Karma's a [expletive deleted]. The right man won, and the slanderous drag queen wore a devasted expression when she was booted that was absolutely priceless. Uli also did a great job. And "darling" Michael showed his true colors joining in with Laura on the accusation against Jeffrey and in a thoroughly trashy collection.
Hundreds of man hours of beading, rich [expletive deleted] with 5 kids, and SHE'S accusing Jeff of cheating? As Kayne said, "I worry about your character, which is far worse." I think her output should have been equally scrutinized by the producers. Again, in the immortal words of Vincent, "Why don't you stick those Harry Winstons up your nose?"
Dont hold back the hate,dearie...Hope u dont hurt any 'rich bitches' or 'drag queens' on your way home from Jeff's re-hab sob story party....Thanks for the venom.....
Yeah...karma's a [expletive deleted]? Karma doesn't exist since he won.
Adelheide
October 19, 2006 - 12:09 PM
Just FYI - here is a little movie trivia for you. That line was from a 1960's move starring Haley Mills.
Verte
October 19, 2006 - 12:10 PM
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I'm so psyched...this was absolutely the best choice...throughout the competition Jeffrey has been the best, with Uli (besides the mom's challenge, granted) but I think his collection was the most unique and the youngest. I am a 21 yr old, rock chic and that's exactly the kind of clothes that I would like to wear. Be able to dress up and dress down without feeling generic, which is what i got from everyone else's collection except Jeffrey's
I totally agree with everything you said. The others were boring or just poor taste except Uli's, and like Nina said right after the fashion show ended people were already asking how to contact Uli. They all will probably go on to be successful, just in different ways. But they definitely chose the right person as the winner. My only issue with him was his attitude, then after finding out the hardships he's been through, I can kind of understand. All that aside he was the only one who made something I liked every single episode and his collection at Bryant Park was amazing. Yay Jeffrey!
ReneinDC
October 19, 2006 - 12:21 PM
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I think they were talking about the look on her face, which I'm shocked they were able to see with their head so far up their arse! It it blatantly obvious that Jeffrey cheated, and if anybody here read People magazine they would already know that. Right before the reunion special aired, People ran a small story on the whole "did he or didn't he" drama, and Laura discussed why she was so suspicious of him and his "work". Apparently, Laura's mother and Jeffrey's mother (PS: How did such a classy lady produce such crass???) became close during the mother challenge, and continued to stay in contact during the show's hiatus. During that time Jeffrey's mother mentioned that he had quite a bit of OUTSIDE HELP in finishing his collection. . . .
Naturally, Laura's mother forwarded this information, and so Laura was already suspicious when she arrived back in NY, and only expressed her doubts when Jeffrey showed up with hideous clothes that were sewn far too perfectly for him. Laura has consistently shown exquisite clothing that was perfectly sewn throughout the competition . . . I would expect nothing less than labor-intensive beading and sewing from her final collection and while I don't believe she had the best collection, the judges didn't doubt for an instant that she did all her work herself becuase her work was a level above the whole time!!! And next time you're trying to sound intelligent, don't quote Vincent. It's entirely self-defeatist and makes you sound about as sharp as the Leader of the Free World . . . .
Couldn't agree more! I'm a lurker but this Finale upset me. What gets my goat is that people seem to have forgotten that it was JEFFREY'S VERY OWN MOTHER who outted him having outside help! Not Laura.. Not Michael.. Not Uli.. HIS MOTHER. He went over budget AND had a piece of clothing that couldn't qualify because of outside help.. if that's not cheating what is? It is apparent Bravo wanted Jeffrey and made sure he was going to win it no matter what. They have no credibility now and when the seamstress who actually did his collection comes forward... this will blow up in PR/Bravo's face.
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October 19, 2006 - 12:21 PM
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I'm so psyched...this was absolutely the best choice...throughout the competition Jeffrey has been the best, with Uli (besides the mom's challenge, granted) but I think his collection was the most unique and the youngest. I am a 21 yr old, rock chic and that's exactly the kind of clothes that I would like to wear. Be able to dress up and dress down without feeling generic, which is what i got from everyone else's collection except Jeffrey's
Agreed! I'm in my late 40's and loved Jeffery's collection, I wouldn't wear it, but loved it none-the-less. He was the only one who really listened to the judges about having a range, being edgy and staying true to oneself. I also loved Uli's collection, it was fantastic and something I would wear, but it didn't have the edginess or range that Jeffery's collection had.
Congrats to Jeffery & Uli!
oscarsimon
October 19, 2006 - 12:23 PM
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The high empire waist and baby doll dress is the hottest thing right now.
In case you did not know that.
The shirt cut like this is extremely hot! For God's sake look at what Heidi and Laura were wearing!!!
Laura designed her own dress as she always does
Uh - aren't they both pregnant?
I personally would tend to separate high waist design because of prenancy - - - and current hot fashion empire waist babydoll dresses.
The_Authority
October 19, 2006 - 12:27 PM
With Jeffrey winning Project Runway 3, that will be the end of my watching any future renditions of the show. I don't know how he made it to the end, let alone how he won. His designs just weren't that great. Besides that, I don't understand how the show could reward such a harsh, rude, and cruel individual. I'm completely flabbergasted and disgusted. I would have been happy with any of the other three, who proved themselves time and time again. Here's one fan that won't be returning to the show. It’s too bad really. I really like the show but to watch it for so long and see someone like Jeffrey win in the end, really gets my goat.
cosmogirl_incal
October 19, 2006 - 12:29 PM
So much uglyness and hate going on here. No one on these boards should be bringing in God or any other belief. Such hypocricy is mind blowing. You do not know the true person of who you bash so much. Only a sliver of what TV producers have betrayed them as. Artists come in all kinds of packages. Some may not be as pretty as you like but, when you open them up beautiful things can come out. and vice versa.
And as for Jeffery cheating: Any addict will tell you, if he did cheat his sobriety is over. The pain and guilt of it would be to much and using again is the only thing to make it better. He had more to lose in his life, than some silly TV show compatition. Not worth it in a million years. Like him or not there is no way he did it. And yes I am talking from experience.
modelgirl7721
October 19, 2006 - 12:33 PM
I'm amazed at how people who don't know about fashion keep making stupid comments. I keep hearing people say (mostly Jeffrey lovers) "the other clothes are not innovative and they're cookie cutter" and then I hear other people say "you don't see people wearing those kinds of clothes-Jeffrey's are the only ones that I would actually wear". I hope to god you all realize that those two opinions don't make any sense together. Please explain to me how no one would wear them but they're just like what everyone wear's at the same time? Some clothes on runways are ready-to-wear and some are couture and artistic. If you don't know the difference you should not make stupid comments. This win for Jeffrey was outrageous-I still can't believe it. And how ignorant to assume we don't like him because we're fans of the other three or we don't like his attitude. Yes his attitude does suck and I'm really shocked that so many people defend a guy who gossips about everyone like a 14-year old girl and has absolutely no respect for people. But I wouldn't care if his clothes were great. Why all of a sudden in America does tacky mean innovative? Jeffrey stuck to his genre just like Uli, Laura and Michael. What's innovative about that? I think there are a lot of people just mimicking the judges (since innovative is probably not a word you use so often on a daily basis).
ReneinDC
October 19, 2006 - 12:34 PM
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So much uglyness and hate going on here. No one on these boards should be bringing in God or any other belief. Such hypocricy is mind blowing. You do not know the true person of who you bash so much. Only a sliver of what TV producers have betrayed them as. Artists come in all kinds of packages. Some may not be as pretty as you like but, when you open them up beautiful things can come out. and vice versa.
And as for Jeffery cheating: Any addict will tell you, if he did cheat his sobriety is over. The pain and guilt of it would be to much and using again is the only thing to make it better. He had more to lose in his life, than some silly TV show compatition. Not worth it in a million years. Like him or not there is no way he did it. And yes I am talking from experience.
Sooooo if he didn't cheat why did his mother say he had outside help??
lovelyt
October 19, 2006 - 12:34 PM
Hello all i had to login just so i could post my comment about the finale. First i wanted to say that i liked Michael throughout the whole show but i was very disappointed in his collection, which is ok because he still has growing to do as a designer and he will most definetly have a great career the hip hop community will emabrace him plus he was the fan favorite. Second thing i wanted to say i don't feel Laura she have raised her concers to Tim or the producers unless she had proof that Jeff was in the wrong i mean he had a huge work space and two months is alot of time compared to the challenge time they were given, but on the other hand he did go over budget and did not have all of his receipts, however Laura will make it as well there are plently of elegant sophisticated woman that will buy her clothers they are made beautifully, Third i was so disappointed with the winner i loved Uli's collection she deserved to win her clothes were beautiful and the judges and i quote said "that her whole collection was great and could be sold". But then they said that Jeffery's last dress was a mess, i just didn't get it Uli was robbed. However the 1st season winner Jay did not do so great what happend to project Jay went away cause he wasn't doing anything until recently i just heard of his collection being complete but when they recapped Kara Sun she was doing great even designing for Heidi i know Uli will do great things even Nina said people wanted to contact her after the show
Kristlkrost
October 19, 2006 - 12:41 PM
Yeah but if you read the new interview on the PR site
with Jeffrey that's NOT what she said as far as what he says.Oy....Who really knows the truth???
The media is full of peeps getting it wrongand changing things up...I doubt Jeffrey would be stupid enough to cheat and then stand around with nothing to do...Too obvious.
Read that interview and you might think differently.
Remember...He is friends with Santiono..He knew he was gonna make good TV!!!
MarshaLady
October 19, 2006 - 12:41 PM
What were they thinking? Isn't part of being a successful designer actually involve designing clothing that someone (other than Cher or Courtney Love) wants to buy? If you go over now and look at the auctions for the garments featured on the final show, only Ulis garments are commanding three figures at this point in time. I would wear her items in a heartbeat. Stylish, elegant and refined. Wow.
Kristlkrost
October 19, 2006 - 12:53 PM
Anybody know who gets the money from the auctions????
Also.... Do the designers HAVE to take the mentorship with Macy's??? I can't see Jeffrey wanting that.
AND...lol..Can they do anything they want with the $100,000??
haji81872
October 19, 2006 - 01:03 PM
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So much uglyness and hate going on here. No one on these boards should be bringing in God or any other belief. Such hypocricy is mind blowing. You do not know the true person of who you bash so much. Only a sliver of what TV producers have betrayed them as. Artists come in all kinds of packages. Some may not be as pretty as you like but, when you open them up beautiful things can come out. and vice versa.
And as for Jeffery cheating: Any addict will tell you, if he did cheat his sobriety is over. The pain and guilt of it would be to much and using again is the only thing to make it better. He had more to lose in his life, than some silly TV show compatition. Not worth it in a million years. Like him or not there is no way he did it. And yes I am talking from experience.
Sooooo if he didn't cheat why did his mother say he had outside help??
That was all such crap and had been talked about ad nauseum elsewhere. The two mothers aren't friends at all and really haven't even spoken to one another. You have the quote wrong and the whole thing was taken out of context to make it seem like they were friends when it was more about the idea that they could relate to one another.
mchris65
October 19, 2006 - 01:14 PM
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Jeffrey can't hold a candle to Chloe.
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