oscarsimon
October 19, 2006 - 03:58 PM
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Truce - I believe we have reached a level of equality and understanding.
RitaG
October 19, 2006 - 04:04 PM
Please. Jeffrey must be a republican. He's rude and arrogant like they are and he has no idea what he's doing.
JayCiuM
October 19, 2006 - 04:06 PM
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Please. Jeffrey must be a republican. He's rude and arrogant like they are and he has no idea what he's doing.
Here, here!! Vote 11/7 and throw all the BUMS out!! It can't be any worse, but I did say that 2 years ago!! What a freakin' mess!! lol!!
erthgoddss
October 19, 2006 - 04:17 PM
Well of the final four.. I was pleased that Micheal and Laura were aufed. I have worn Micheal's clothing.. about 30 years ago. Laura was all flash and sparkle. Hated the feathers!!! She is good at coctail dresses for the New York scene.. but I for one don't live there.. can we talk out of place for most of America?
I loved Uli... and thought Jeff did a good job. He was very innovative.. and just like season one... that style seems to be "in". I would have been happy seeing either one win.. I cheered when Jeff won though. No I will never wear his designs.. but I bet we see some of them on the red carpet!
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October 19, 2006 - 04:28 PM
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I thought he looked a lil freaked too while looking for his receipts....but hey..that could be just "good tv"
Yeah could be. Someone might have been waving a giant mouse in front of him like they do to get cats' reactions in movies
babsjean
October 19, 2006 - 04:36 PM
I have never been a Jeffrey fan. Several times I wanted to see him eliminated... but.... I LOVED his collection. The colors were lovely, the shapes were beautiful. I could see how the collection truly was a collection with out being themy. He really showed talent for creativity far above the other three whether you liked his clothes or not. I think that is what the judges saw. So I say congratulations Jeffrey and Bravo!
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October 19, 2006 - 04:39 PM
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I thought he looked a lil freaked too while looking for his receipts....but hey..that could be just "good tv"
Yeah could be. Someone might have been waving a giant mouse in front of him like they do to get cats' reactions in movies
Speaking of "cat," I thought he looked catatonic!! lol!! Mouth agape and dazed is not a good look for him!! lol!! What a jerk!! He's so lucky they wanted him to win!! How else do you explain him getting away with being overbudget, possibly outsourcing some of his work, and to even participate in the final getting by with that loser 'milk maid' outfit?? lol!! Marlinda deserved better than him!! At least she didn't suffer!!
dands
October 19, 2006 - 04:52 PM
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Well of the final four.. I was pleased that Micheal and Laura were aufed. I have worn Micheal's clothing.. about 30 years ago. Laura was all flash and sparkle. Hated the feathers!!! She is good at coctail dresses for the New York scene.. but I for one don't live there.. can we talk out of place for most of America?
I loved Uli... and thought Jeff did a good job. He was very innovative.. and just like season one... that style seems to be "in". I would have been happy seeing either one win.. I cheered when Jeff won though. No I will never wear his designs.. but I bet we see some of them on the red carpet!
He did not have one thing that would be appropriate for the red carpet, except maybe at the MTV awards. But, then again, Michael's stuff would be just as appropriate for that. As for innovation, the kind of stuff he designed has been around here (los Angeles) for years. I guess it's being recycled or is more en vogue for some reason, but I did not see anything new in his designs.
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October 19, 2006 - 05:14 PM
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I stopped posting here and almost stopped watching the show this season.
3 of the final 4 designers will have long careers, if they choose to, and one will have a short lived one. That's just my opinion.
I was not surprised by the winner last night. When I saw the show where Tim went to their homes to see how they were doing on their collections for fashion week I knew then who was going to win. It was a huge telegraph of the winner.
Do I like Jeff's designes, no I don't. They look very K-mart, Wal-Mart, Target to me. There was not one thing in his collection that I would wear.
Uli's was the same thing that has been done in Miami for decades. I am a frequent visitor to Miami through the past 30 years and what she did through out the show and on the final runway was nothing but stuff I have seen for decades in Miami.
Laura could design for Saks, Neimans, etc and have a huge career as long as she does evening wear. She limited herself and lost because of it.
Michael did not do a collection that would stand alone and brought too much street jive to it for the general public. Toned down it would make a great collection.
Actually I did not think any one designer did a collection that would appeal to the masses. There were some really good thing from most.
Not sure I will be back for this next year. It became more about personalities these past two seasons than about fashion to me and I don't watch for the personalities.
good points. I think Fern Mallis was correct, Laura is not limited, she is very FOCUSED on her own aesthetic. It didnt pay off on PR, but I think she will have the last laugh, along with Uli.
Michael I am not so sure of. I never truly saw in his designs anything of any particular note, and I tend to think it was his association with Laura that kept his offering classy. Left to his own devices, his stuff is just very limited baby phat crappo stuff.
Also, I think Uli is under rated. Her stuff was almost as beautiful as Laura's stuff, and not as focused.
For me Jeffrey's stuff was pretty good, but not to my taste, and nowhere near the calibre of Laura and Uli. If Laura's stuff was too focused, I will never understand why Uli didn't get the nod. Her collection was superbe.
Agreed. Guess quality doesn't matter.
dcben1
October 19, 2006 - 05:27 PM
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Was highly, highly disappointed last night. I watched the show with a group of seven or eight people, all of whom supported different designers and different styles. Despite this, ALL of them were betting on Uli after the show, even more so after the judges had their say.
What the heck happened? Just a few thoughts...
1) Seems to me that last year they nailed Daniel V. on his collection's representation of his theme -- it didn't quite mesh wih what he wanted to project. I don't know about the rest of you, but I hardly got "Japanese Horror/NIghtmare/Dreams" from Jeffrey's stuff.
2) They didn't have one bad thing to say about Uli's stuff. None. They lauded her for rising above her usual parameters, stretching but being true to her style at the same time, the versatility and wearablity of every single one of her pieces. All four of them loved it and told her so...why the change of heart?
3) There was also unanimous hatred across the board of one of Jeffrey's pieces. Not just "meh" but "this is horrendous". And he still pulls off a win? Over the highly-praised collection from Uli? Hmm...
4) Regardless of if he cheated or not by getting outside help (still think it was possible. Who says he had to pay them? Would he really be dumb enough to put in a receipt for something like that?), the fact that Jeffrey had gone over budget and the fact that this would NOT have been caught if Laura hadn't said something would have given me pause as a judge. Is it fair to judge him on the same level as someone who played by the rules and hadn't been involved in that controversy? Yes, he did manage to come in under budget after they told him to cut some stuff, but the damage was done in my opinion.
5) Seriously, was there a contest this season to see how many times they could pump poor Uli up with praise, let her get to the final two, and then crush her? I think this was the third or fourth time that she was that close or robbed this year -- heartbreaking, especially since she so deserved to win the show.
6) Was it just me or was anyone else completely unimpressed by the way Jeffrey's models walked? They seemed so apathetic and uninterested. I loved how Uli's walked so perfectly to the music -- which was a fantastic selection. Really not happy with the way his collection was presented during the show.
7) Since so many people are convinced that one of the leg-ups for Jeffrey was his sob story of a past, anyone else think that they didn't pick Uli because they already covered that story last year? The immigrant-who-came-to-this-country-in-hopes-of-pursuing-her-dreams route was already taken by Chloe...what better way to fill the winner's spot than a former criminal/drug addict/alcoholic/suicide attemptee? That probably sounded incredibly insensitive, but after the complete surprise win, I'm scrambling to find reasons to justify it.
8) In defense of Laura, I don't think her accusations of Jeffrey were at all unwarranted. It's a contest. You should play by the rules. If she was suspicious of someone breaking the rules, she was well within her rights to question it. If Uli or Michael had shown up in the same situation, I'm sure she would have done the same thing. And Jeffrey...I have no doubt that he would have been just as accusatory if the roles were flip-flopped (probably much more abrasive and rude considering his personality, actually).
9) As much as Jeffrey ticked me off this year personality-wise (seriously, no matter how bad your life was before, there's no call to be such a jerk. Uli grew up in Communist East-freaking-Germany and she's an absolute sweetheart to everyone), that's not the reason that so many people are upset at his win. Just because some of us are upset that he took home the prize, don't automatically assume that that's because we're "Jeffrey-haters". I don't like him. But his collection was not the best one on the runway. I've only skimmed these pages, but I'd love to count the number of people who said "Uli was robbed".
10) Just disappointed. That is all. Uli -- you collection was amazing. You will go far.
DITTO!
panekbutton
October 19, 2006 - 05:39 PM
Disappointed in your pick for winner. I am no fashionista but I can tell you that myself as well as many other loyal fans would not ever see ourselves wearing Jeffrey's clothing. Uli should have taken it!
mchris65
October 19, 2006 - 05:41 PM
LOL! - now that Jeff's got 100 grand, I hope he'll BURN those damned bike shorts! He didn't look hip or artistic - just a ridiculous 36-year-old man trying to look like a grad student.
He looked like an Oompa Loompa reject.
JayCiuM
October 19, 2006 - 05:54 PM
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LOL! - now that Jeff's got 100 grand, I hope he'll BURN those damned bike shorts! He didn't look hip or artistic - just a ridiculous 36-year-old man trying to look like a grad student.
He looked like an Oompa Loompa reject.
Speaking of what a designer looks like, what is the deal with most of them?? So often these people look like they're homeless!! Maybe they think their clothes will look hotter if they look like BUMS!! lol!! Richard Tyler should have been ashamed of the way he appeared a few weeks ago; greasy, unshaven, wrinkled!! Yuck!! All the designers except Laura dressed like they were going to a picnic in the park instead of a fashion show!! Have they never heard of a suit?? It really ticks me off when I see that!! How credible are they in the world of designs when they can't even get themselves together??
rtrack
October 19, 2006 - 06:01 PM
After watching the runway show, I thought for sure that Jeffrey should have won. Why can't you people put aside your dislike for his personality to see that he really did have the best, cohesive collection? I didn't care for him personally either, but...
mchris65
October 19, 2006 - 06:02 PM
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Project Runway just affirms my belief that fashion is no longer about making women look beautiful, it has become a hedonistic artform. Models are merely coat hangers with heads.
The dress stands alone as an independent piece of art, the woman wearing it is secondary.
Decades ago, fashion was about designing clothes to make women appear more elegant, adventurous, sexy, chic. Think Chanel. The fashions women wore made a statement about her; now designers create fashion to make a statement about themselves.
It doesn't matter if it looks good on only six women living on the planet -- this is deemed to be fashionable for almost everyone. If it doesn't look good on you, that is your fault.
And this is what passes for style. Even if it doesn't translate into something wearable for women, it is deemed "good", "worthy" and even "desirable."
What percentage of fashionable women in America would choose anything out of Jeffery's line over Uli's or Laura's? The MODELS didn't even look good in it.
The judges COMPLAINED that Laura's work was "impeccable" and that her designs were timeless and classic. Her construction was perfect. Most had hours of hand work. Laura's designs were the stuff of fashion back when it was about excellence.
Make no mistake -- the judges are telling us that fashion is no longer about quality. It is no longer about luxurious fabrics (think of Jeffrey's picnic basket evening gown). It is no longer about owning a piece to enhance your wardrobe and be worn for years to come.
And it certainly is no longer about making women look beautiful.
A-freakin'-men!!
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October 19, 2006 - 06:06 PM
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This feels so much like Season 2 when this board was filled with Chloe bashing. Now it's Jeffrey's turn.
Jeffrey can't hold a candle to Chloe.
If Heidi Klum said that I would believe it, from you I don't.
Heidi is in a position to know, you are not.
Heidi can't hold a candle to Chloe.
mchris65
October 19, 2006 - 06:12 PM
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After watching the runway show, I thought for sure that Jeffrey should have won. Why can't you people put aside your dislike for his personality to see that he really did have the best, cohesive collection? I didn't care for him personally either, but...
I can't stand his clothes, no matter what his personality is...Uli clearly should have won.
oscarsimon
October 19, 2006 - 06:33 PM
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After watching the runway show, I thought for sure that Jeffrey should have won. Why can't you people put aside your dislike for his personality to see that he really did have the best, cohesive collection? I didn't care for him personally either, but...
I can't stand his clothes, no matter what his personality is...Uli clearly should have won.
No she shouldn't have.
The right person won.
love2paint
October 19, 2006 - 06:53 PM
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Project Runway just affirms my belief that fashion is no longer about making women look beautiful, it has become a hedonistic artform. Models are merely coat hangers with heads.
The dress stands alone as an independent piece of art, the woman wearing it is secondary.
Decades ago, fashion was about designing clothes to make women appear more elegant, adventurous, sexy, chic. Think Chanel. The fashions women wore made a statement about her; now designers create fashion to make a statement about themselves.
It doesn't matter if it looks good on only six women living on the planet -- this is deemed to be fashionable for almost everyone. If it doesn't look good on you, that is your fault.
And this is what passes for style. Even if it doesn't translate into something wearable for women, it is deemed "good", "worthy" and even "desirable."
What percentage of fashionable women in America would choose anything out of Jeffery's line over Uli's or Laura's? The MODELS didn't even look good in it.
The judges COMPLAINED that Laura's work was "impeccable" and that her designs were timeless and classic. Her construction was perfect. Most had hours of hand work. Laura's designs were the stuff of fashion back when it was about excellence.
Make no mistake -- the judges are telling us that fashion is no longer about quality. It is no longer about luxurious fabrics (think of Jeffrey's picnic basket evening gown). It is no longer about owning a piece to enhance your wardrobe and be worn for years to come.
And it certainly is no longer about making women look beautiful.
A-freakin'-men!!
This poster said exactly what I've been thinking and even wrote to a fellow PR fan... that Jeffery's clothes are about HIM and the statement he wants to make instead of being about the WOMAN.
Jeffery's may be art (not my taste tho) but they are not anything most women would wear. Who wants to look like a freak show. The classic styles are classic for a reason.... because they look good.
I'm done with PR, no longer a fan.
GiovanniDino
October 19, 2006 - 07:16 PM
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You can't believe that Nina wants a Jeffrey spread in her magazine??? Did you even look at what Nina wore???? I'm not surprised, at all. And "not in a good way". *LOL* There were a few times I thought I'd puke when I saw what she was wearing. I guess I'm glad that I'm too old to care about 'new' fashion.
It used to be that 'fashion' was timeless, but I guess, no more. To me, Uli should have won (even though Laura was my favorite), Laura 2nd, Michael 3rd and Allison should have been 4th. Jeff should have been gone certainly with the Everyday Woman challenge.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Thanks for making the comment about Nina. I found her "fake pockets" in the Reunion Show a bit odd based on her comments on Twiggy's "fake pockets".
I think the judges and the producers need to "re-watch" the episodes and do some quality control. Aside from the obvious conflicts about - we want more and then say you should stick with what you do best or you went too far - is the fact that of the 12 pieces - there was total agreement that the gown and blue dress made my Jeffery were the ODD pieces. PLUS, he did one of those front long hem lines - back short hemlines that got him into trouble on one of the earlier episodes. You all know which one - it is the one with those silly straps that he used again in his coutoure dress. In both instances, the model needed to turn around.
And as we speak about the designer competition - let us not forget that aside from Uli's placement, her model - the best model and the one who wore the most "wins" - does not have her rightful place in the Elle spread.
tamarinden
October 19, 2006 - 07:39 PM
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Project Runway just affirms my belief that fashion is no longer about making women look beautiful, it has become a hedonistic artform. Models are merely coat hangers with heads.
The dress stands alone as an independent piece of art, the woman wearing it is secondary.
Decades ago, fashion was about designing clothes to make women appear more elegant, adventurous, sexy, chic. Think Chanel. The fashions women wore made a statement about her; now designers create fashion to make a statement about themselves.
It doesn't matter if it looks good on only six women living on the planet -- this is deemed to be fashionable for almost everyone. If it doesn't look good on you, that is your fault.
And this is what passes for style. Even if it doesn't translate into something wearable for women, it is deemed "good", "worthy" and even "desirable."
What percentage of fashionable women in America would choose anything out of Jeffery's line over Uli's or Laura's? The MODELS didn't even look good in it.
The judges COMPLAINED that Laura's work was "impeccable" and that her designs were timeless and classic. Her construction was perfect. Most had hours of hand work. Laura's designs were the stuff of fashion back when it was about excellence.
Make no mistake -- the judges are telling us that fashion is no longer about quality. It is no longer about luxurious fabrics (think of Jeffrey's picnic basket evening gown). It is no longer about owning a piece to enhance your wardrobe and be worn for years to come.
And it certainly is no longer about making women look beautiful.
Velmalu I think this is one of the finest posts (because I agree hehe) that I have ever read. Thanks!
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October 19, 2006 - 07:41 PM
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LOL! - now that Jeff's got 100 grand, I hope he'll BURN those damned bike shorts! He didn't look hip or artistic - just a ridiculous 36-year-old man trying to look like a grad student.
He looked like an Oompa Loompa reject.
Speaking of what a designer looks like, what is the deal with most of them?? So often these people look like they're homeless!! Maybe they think their clothes will look hotter if they look like BUMS!! lol!! Richard Tyler should have been ashamed of the way he appeared a few weeks ago; greasy, unshaven, wrinkled!! Yuck!! All the designers except Laura dressed like they were going to a picnic in the park instead of a fashion show!! Have they never heard of a suit?? It really ticks me off when I see that!! How credible are they in the world of designs when they can't even get themselves together??
agreed Even Uli wore white leather jeans. Michael would look so sexy in a tux
alphanguy
October 19, 2006 - 07:53 PM
The more I think about it, the angrier I get. I can't believe that Bravo tried to play the sympathy card and show us his "Mohawk Mistress" and their illegitimate child. They both look like a couple of groupies at a Sex Pistols concert, and that's supposed to be edgy? How about Nauseating? His wife really did seem like a nice girl, it's too bad that he won't marry her, I guess he wants an easy escape hatch in case he tires of her. But then again, she must not be the brightest bulb in the chandelier for chosing to hook up with a heroine addict who can't committ and has no managerial skills whatsoever. Michael does have tons of talent. But I do have to say, many of his designs looked EXACTLY like stagewear worn by Sly and The Family Stone. Laura is impeccable, and she DID streatch for her. She's not a wild woman, so she can only take steps that are so big. The feathers and such showed me she was stretching herself. However... what happened to ehr red pieces? She had two red pieces, and they didn't get into the show? I think the boldness of the color might have helped her in the end. and Uli... gorgeous, even if it was done before. The silver mini dress with the bone clasp is just like one that is worn by Mary Wilson of The Supremes in a picture I have from 1967. I do agree that if heavy women wore Uli's clothes they WOULD end up looking like Mrs. Roper, but her things WERE beautiful and has much commercial appeal. I think her designs would be great at Macy's and other fine department stores.
tamarinden
October 19, 2006 - 08:03 PM
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The more I think about it, the angrier I get. I can't believe that Bravo tried to play the sympathy card and show us his "Mohawk Mistress" and their illegitimate child. They both look like a couple of groupies at a Sex Pistols concert, and that's supposed to be edgy? How about Nauseating? His wife really did seem like a nice girl, it's too bad that he won't marry her, I guess he wants an easy escape hatch in case he tires of her. But then again, she must not be the brightest bulb in the chandelier for chosing to hook up with a heroine addict who can't committ and has no managerial skills whatsoever. Michael does have tons of talent. But I do have to say, many of his designs looked EXACTLY like stagewear worn by Sly and The Family Stone. Laura is impeccable, and she DID streatch for her. She's not a wild woman, so she can only take steps that are so big. The feathers and such showed me she was stretching herself. However... what happened to ehr red pieces? She had two red pieces, and they didn't get into the show? I think the boldness of the color might have helped her in the end. and Uli... gorgeous, even if it was done before. The silver mini dress with the bone clasp is just like one that is worn by Mary Wilson of The Supremes in a picture I have from 1967. I do agree that if heavy women wore Uli's clothes they WOULD end up looking like Mrs. Roper, but her things WERE beautiful and has much commercial appeal. I think her designs would be great at Macy's and other fine department stores.
I agree with your assessment of Laura and Uli, and I think Laura shoudl have won or Uli.
I have to say (forgive me in advance) but I don't think it is ok to attack Jeffrey personally. His girlfriend seems nice and they have a lovely child, and this seems to bring them both great happiness. I admire her personal strength and Jeffrey's too.
I totally am not a big fan of Jeffrey, but he is a talented designer, and his personal life is not something I will comment on.
sorry for the soapbox. I wish Laura had won or Uli, I think PR missed the boat on this one. But they are the experts and they have the right to choose whom they wish, and Jeffrey's collection WAS gorgeous I thought (just not to my personal taste).
mille bisous
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October 19, 2006 - 08:06 PM
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Project Runway just affirms my belief that fashion is no longer about making women look beautiful, it has become a hedonistic artform. Models are merely coat hangers with heads.
The dress stands alone as an independent piece of art, the woman wearing it is secondary.
Decades ago, fashion was about designing clothes to make women appear more elegant, adventurous, sexy, chic. Think Chanel. The fashions women wore made a statement about her; now designers create fashion to make a statement about themselves.
It doesn't matter if it looks good on only six women living on the planet -- this is deemed to be fashionable for almost everyone. If it doesn't look good on you, that is your fault.
And this is what passes for style. Even if it doesn't translate into something wearable for women, it is deemed "good", "worthy" and even "desirable."
What percentage of fashionable women in America would choose anything out of Jeffery's line over Uli's or Laura's? The MODELS didn't even look good in it.
The judges COMPLAINED that Laura's work was "impeccable" and that her designs were timeless and classic. Her construction was perfect. Most had hours of hand work. Laura's designs were the stuff of fashion back when it was about excellence.
Make no mistake -- the judges are telling us that fashion is no longer about quality. It is no longer about luxurious fabrics (think of Jeffrey's picnic basket evening gown). It is no longer about owning a piece to enhance your wardrobe and be worn for years to come.
And it certainly is no longer about making women look beautiful.
A-freakin'-men!!
This poster said exactly what I've been thinking and even wrote to a fellow PR fan... that Jeffery's clothes are about HIM and the statement he wants to make instead of being about the WOMAN.
Jeffery's may be art (not my taste tho) but they are not anything most women would wear. Who wants to look like a freak show. The classic styles are classic for a reason.... because they look good.
I'm done with PR, no longer a fan.
Impressionist painters, when they first exhibited their paintings were reviled - Monet, Renoir, Degas, Cezane, Manet. In the art world, there are those who paint pretty pictures (Uli, Laura) and those who bring an art form forward into new, innovative territory (Jeffery). Like the members of the French Academe, who denigrated the Impressionists, those who only look for "pretty" will degrade Jeffery's talent.
He is innovative, fresh, forward thinking, and a thoughtful business man (and business acumen is part of the mix determining who wins) and completely deserved to win.
On another topic about Jeffery/Laura (who is the villian) Jeffery says what I've thought for quite a while. Laura is a wonderful talented seamstress, and within her narrow category quite talented, but she is not America's complete sweetheart (although I think she's a mom I'd love to have had, full of love and joy and fun)...she is a competitive person, willing to try to psyche out a fellow competitor, and sometimes her "seriously ugly" side comes out.
Jeffery's words about Laura and her unfounded accustations (about which, he was a true gentleman on the last episode):
I was not angry, but I was peeved. I thought, “Oh man, we have a week. We could be celebrating this whole thing. We could be helping each other out.” There were models that weren’t going to be showing up. And we were all talking about, “Well, if yours doesn’t show up, you can maybe use some of mine.” And you know, I wanted there to be a camaraderie, but …. … I think Laura was genuinely threatened, and I don’t think she knew what she was looking at. I think that if Laura spent less time on the blogs, and more time reading over the rules and googling pleating services and finishing, she might not feel like somebody had one up on her. Thing is, Laura would call me. Four times in two and a half months. Almost on a schedule. The first three times she called me, it was to tell me about the blogs she was reading and about how the bloggers hate me. “How you doing?” “Good.” “Good, good. Man, those bloggers hate you.” A week later, “Man those bloggers hate you.” Another week later… And the last time she called, she said, “You must be incredibly busy. Are all your sewers sewing everything for you?” That Laura seemed to be obsessed with me. Obsessed. And she actually said to me, “I’m your friend.” And I said, “I’m not your friend,” and she said, “Well I had a problem with you.” And she didn’t really go into it, but who knew, why would you have a problem with me? What’s your problem with me? I don’t have a problem with you. Or anybody else. I may not like what you do or like the way you act. But what she was saying, was, “There’s something not right about you and I’m the authority on what is right and what is wrong, and I’m going to check you out.” And that was crazy to me. … made a point to go to her house with Jay McCarroll and Malan and Uli -- to watch the reunion show at her house, and you know, I don’t trust her. I don’t know...Not that she could do anything to me ever, but the way she attacked me was so petty and weird and unfounded. Really unfounded, she seemed to be delusional, that what she thought what was going on would be reality. It’s just a big waste of time. But I think you have to keep your friends close and your enemies closer. So -- you know, go watch TV at her house. She has beautiful kids, and I love her husband. He’s really a nice guy. Really smart, really funny.
And it just didn’t turn out to be that. And I was upset. I was not angry, but I was peeved. I thought, “Oh man, we have a week. We could be celebrating this whole thing. We could be helping each other out.” There were models that weren’t going to be showing up. And we were all talking about, “Well, if yours doesn’t show up, you can maybe use some of mine.” And you know, I wanted there to be a camaraderie, but …. … I think Laura was genuinely threatened, and I don’t think she knew what she was looking at. I think that if Laura spent less time on the blogs, and more time reading over the rules and googling pleating services and finishing, she might not feel like somebody had one up on her. Thing is, Laura would call me. Four times in two and a half months. Almost on a schedule. The first three times she called me, it was to tell me about the blogs she was reading and about how the bloggers hate me. “How you doing?” “Good.” “Good, good. Man, those bloggers hate you.” A week later, “Man those bloggers hate you.” Another week later… And the last time she called, she said, “You must be incredibly busy. Are all your sewers sewing everything for you?” That Laura seemed to be obsessed with me. Obsessed. And she actually said to me, “I’m your friend.” And I said, “I’m not your friend,” and she said, “Well I had a problem with you.” And she didn’t really go into it, but who knew, why would you have a problem with me? What’s your problem with me? I don’t have a problem with you. Or anybody else. I may not like what you do or like the way you act. But what she was saying, was, “There’s something not right about you and I’m the authority on what is right and what is wrong, and I’m going to check you out.” And that was crazy to me. … made a point to go to her house with Jay McCarroll and Malan and Uli -- to watch the reunion show at her house, and you know, I don’t trust her. I don’t know...Not that she could do anything to me ever, but the way she attacked me was so petty and weird and unfounded. Really unfounded, she seemed to be delusional, that what she thought what was going on would be reality. It’s just a big waste of time. But I think you have to keep your friends close and your enemies closer. So -- you know, go watch TV at her house. She has beautiful kids, and I love her husband. He’s really a nice guy. Really smart, really funny.
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October 19, 2006 - 08:07 PM
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I cant see the average women wearing Laura clothes. As she said in stead of jeans wear a black t-shirt dress to the store. Yeah I see that all in WalMart, even at the mall. Women in black t-shirt dresses. No. Uli I have said it before have seen that look in South Fl as that is where I am from. Well that is where I grew up and still have family there. I really thought the 2 guys would be left standing. Yes Micheals was OK I did like a couple of his things. Remember the guest judge even said Uli's was RESORT WEAR. Enough said. Get ready for season 4. I pick Tim Gunn to win that one. lol
Jayfan do you think the average woman would wear Jeffreys stuff? You are misguided.
Read the reviews. ALL the women would wear Lauras or Uli's stuff. Why does anyone need a designer to make clothes for going to Walmart? But at least Laura has the right idea, American women need to start wearing stylish clothes and leave the sweats at the gym.
If I want high fashion, Ill choose Laura or Uli any day. If I want to go to walmart, I will not be wearing a designers clothes. I will definitely wear riding clothes before jeans.
There are designers at Walmart, Kmart, and Target. Just because you wouldn't wear the clothes sold there, doesn't mean that the clothes weren't designed. There is a certain taste level that is associated with the big three; some of the clothes I would wear, some I wouldn't. But you see ads all the time showing that "so and so" is now designing for KMart.
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October 19, 2006 - 08:14 PM
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I cant see the average women wearing Laura clothes. As she said in stead of jeans wear a black t-shirt dress to the store. Yeah I see that all in WalMart, even at the mall. Women in black t-shirt dresses. No. Uli I have said it before have seen that look in South Fl as that is where I am from. Well that is where I grew up and still have family there. I really thought the 2 guys would be left standing. Yes Micheals was OK I did like a couple of his things. Remember the guest judge even said Uli's was RESORT WEAR. Enough said. Get ready for season 4. I pick Tim Gunn to win that one. lol
Jayfan do you think the average woman would wear Jeffreys stuff? You are misguided.
Read the reviews. ALL the women would wear Lauras or Uli's stuff. Why does anyone need a designer to make clothes for going to Walmart? But at least Laura has the right idea, American women need to start wearing stylish clothes and leave the sweats at the gym.
If I want high fashion, Ill choose Laura or Uli any day. If I want to go to walmart, I will not be wearing a designers clothes. I will definitely wear riding clothes before jeans.
There are designers at Walmart, Kmart, and Target. Just because you wouldn't wear the clothes sold there, doesn't mean that the clothes weren't designed. There is a certain taste level that is associated with the big three; some of the clothes I would wear, some I wouldn't. But you see ads all the time showing that "so and so" is now designing for KMart.
You miss my point. It is fine to buy fashion at Walmart.
I dont look down on people who do. I buy most of my fashion at boutiques or thrift stores, sometimes Neiman Marcus or Banana Republic etc. Sometimes the gap.
But those fashions I buy for every day things, like going to Walmart. If I want to buy high fashion, I will choose the designs of a classic designer, such as Laura or Uli or even Jeffrey (his silver dress would be nice for a party).
I do not believe in wearing haute couture to Walmart. And I think Jeffrey designing things for bowling missed the point of haute couture.
dcben1
October 19, 2006 - 08:19 PM
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"Poorly made" was NEVER a criticism given Laura by the runway judges. In fact, every time they told her that they were sick of seeing rethreads of the same designs, they always qualified their comments by admitting how well made each one was. "Exquisite tailoring," etc.
I just wish she would have shifted her point of view a bit. For example: she often said she believed women should be "fabulous," and warned not to fall into the minivan-and-sweats trap. So, for Pete's sake, give.us.a.viable.alternative. Sorry but I'm not going to take children to soccer practice wearing heels, pearls and a low cut cocktail dress. But I'd love to kick it up a notch or two with something cut really nice and in a washable fabric. Give me something fabulous for every day!
If she'd only given her models THAT concept: say, Being Fabulous Throughout The Day or something like that, it would've given her collection the range it so desperately needed.
Good points. She could have done some three piece suits, or pants/skirts with tops. If she had done that, with her gifts at tailoring, she would have won.
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October 19, 2006 - 08:22 PM
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Project Runway just affirms my belief that fashion is no longer about making women look beautiful, it has become a hedonistic artform. Models are merely coat hangers with heads.
The dress stands alone as an independent piece of art, the woman wearing it is secondary.
Decades ago, fashion was about designing clothes to make women appear more elegant, adventurous, sexy, chic. Think Chanel. The fashions women wore made a statement about her; now designers create fashion to make a statement about themselves.
It doesn't matter if it looks good on only six women living on the planet -- this is deemed to be fashionable for almost everyone. If it doesn't look good on you, that is your fault.
And this is what passes for style. Even if it doesn't translate into something wearable for women, it is deemed "good", "worthy" and even "desirable."
What percentage of fashionable women in America would choose anything out of Jeffery's line over Uli's or Laura's? The MODELS didn't even look good in it.
The judges COMPLAINED that Laura's work was "impeccable" and that her designs were timeless and classic. Her construction was perfect. Most had hours of hand work. Laura's designs were the stuff of fashion back when it was about excellence.
Make no mistake -- the judges are telling us that fashion is no longer about quality. It is no longer about luxurious fabrics (think of Jeffrey's picnic basket evening gown). It is no longer about owning a piece to enhance your wardrobe and be worn for years to come.
And it certainly is no longer about making women look beautiful.
A-freakin'-men!!
This poster said exactly what I've been thinking and even wrote to a fellow PR fan... that Jeffery's clothes are about HIM and the statement he wants to make instead of being about the WOMAN.
Jeffery's may be art (not my taste tho) but they are not anything most women would wear. Who wants to look like a freak show. The classic styles are classic for a reason.... because they look good.
I'm done with PR, no longer a fan.
Impressionist painters, when they first exhibited their paintings were reviled - Monet, Renoir, Degas, Cezane, Manet. In the art world, there are those who paint pretty pictures (Uli, Laura) and those who bring an art form forward into new, innovative territory (Jeffery). Like the members of the French Academe, who denigrated the Impressionists, those who only look for "pretty" will degrade Jeffery's talent.
He is innovative, fresh, forward thinking, and a thoughtful business man (and business acumen is part of the mix determining who wins) and completely deserved to win.
On another topic about Jeffery/Laura (who is the villian) Jeffery says what I've thought for quite a while. Laura is a wonderful talented seamstress, and within her narrow category quite talented, but she is not America's complete sweetheart (although I think she's a mom I'd love to have had, full of love and joy and fun)...she is a competitive person, willing to try to psyche out a fellow competitor, and sometimes her "seriously ugly" side comes out.
Jeffery's words about Laura and her unfounded accustations (about which, he was a true gentleman on the last episode):
I was not angry, but I was peeved. I thought, “Oh man, we have a week. We could be celebrating this whole thing. We could be helping each other out.” There were models that weren’t going to be showing up. And we were all talking about, “Well, if yours doesn’t show up, you can maybe use some of mine.” And you know, I wanted there to be a camaraderie, but …. … I think Laura was genuinely threatened, and I don’t think she knew what she was looking at. I think that if Laura spent less time on the blogs, and more time reading over the rules and googling pleating services and finishing, she might not feel like somebody had one up on her. Thing is, Laura would call me. Four times in two and a half months. Almost on a schedule. The first three times she called me, it was to tell me about the blogs she was reading and about how the bloggers hate me. “How you doing?” “Good.” “Good, good. Man, those bloggers hate you.” A week later, “Man those bloggers hate you.” Another week later… And the last time she called, she said, “You must be incredibly busy. Are all your sewers sewing everything for you?” That Laura seemed to be obsessed with me. Obsessed. And she actually said to me, “I’m your friend.” And I said, “I’m not your friend,” and she said, “Well I had a problem with you.” And she didn’t really go into it, but who knew, why would you have a problem with me? What’s your problem with me? I don’t have a problem with you. Or anybody else. I may not like what you do or like the way you act. But what she was saying, was, “There’s something not right about you and I’m the authority on what is right and what is wrong, and I’m going to check you out.” And that was crazy to me. … made a point to go to her house with Jay McCarroll and Malan and Uli -- to watch the reunion show at her house, and you know, I don’t trust her. I don’t know...Not that she could do anything to me ever, but the way she attacked me was so petty and weird and unfounded. Really unfounded, she seemed to be delusional, that what she thought what was going on would be reality. It’s just a big waste of time. But I think you have to keep your friends close and your enemies closer. So -- you know, go watch TV at her house. She has beautiful kids, and I love her husband. He’s really a nice guy. Really smart, really funny.
And it just didn’t turn out to be that. And I was upset. I was not angry, but I was peeved. I thought, “Oh man, we have a week. We could be celebrating this whole thing. We could be helping each other out.” There were models that weren’t going to be showing up. And we were all talking about, “Well, if yours doesn’t show up, you can maybe use some of mine.” And you know, I wanted there to be a camaraderie, but …. … I think Laura was genuinely threatened, and I don’t think she knew what she was looking at. I think that if Laura spent less time on the blogs, and more time reading over the rules and googling pleating services and finishing, she might not feel like somebody had one up on her. Thing is, Laura would call me. Four times in two and a half months. Almost on a schedule. The first three times she called me, it was to tell me about the blogs she was reading and about how the bloggers hate me. “How you doing?” “Good.” “Good, good. Man, those bloggers hate you.” A week later, “Man those bloggers hate you.” Another week later… And the last time she called, she said, “You must be incredibly busy. Are all your sewers sewing everything for you?” That Laura seemed to be obsessed with me. Obsessed. And she actually said to me, “I’m your friend.” And I said, “I’m not your friend,” and she said, “Well I had a problem with you.” And she didn’t really go into it, but who knew, why would you have a problem with me? What’s your problem with me? I don’t have a problem with you. Or anybody else. I may not like what you do or like the way you act. But what she was saying, was, “There’s something not right about you and I’m the authority on what is right and what is wrong, and I’m going to check you out.” And that was crazy to me. … made a point to go to her house with Jay McCarroll and Malan and Uli -- to watch the reunion show at her house, and you know, I don’t trust her. I don’t know...Not that she could do anything to me ever, but the way she attacked me was so petty and weird and unfounded. Really unfounded, she seemed to be delusional, that what she thought what was going on would be reality. It’s just a big waste of time. But I think you have to keep your friends close and your enemies closer. So -- you know, go watch TV at her house. She has beautiful kids, and I love her husband. He’s really a nice guy. Really smart, really funny.
That proves nothing except that Jeffrey is capable of character assassination even when winning.
Laura has never behaved one one thosuandth as badly as Jeffrey. He really needs to clean up his own life before posting what he does about her.
He does what men always do, rides roughly over the lives of anyone who gets in his way, attacks old ladies, breaks the spirit of others, and then when someone like Laura stands up to him in a nice way, he condemns her as "passive agressive".
Passive agressive is nothing more than getting your point across without wishing a stroke/death on those you are competing against, or without harassing a contestant after bringing her mother to tears.
This is why I do not like Jeffrey personally.
As far as "fashion forward" that is a hackneyed old phrase nobody uses in my home country. And all the old Picasso's are in garage sales in the banlieues of Paris because frankly we have all seen that the emperor is indeed naked.
How is that for fashion forward? I lost respect for Heidi, Nina, et al when they were ready to give a photoshoot to Bradley for some old wrinkly badly sewn silk rags he had thrown together in an hour to keep Clarissa from throwing a hissy fit when she didnt have anything to wear.
ArtInstigator
October 19, 2006 - 08:35 PM
It's all becoming clear now, regarding all three season's winners.... Imagine finding a tape containing the rest of what Tim Gunn said to Uli. We heard, "Don't bore Nina". We didn't hear what followed, "And don't threaten Michael Kors".
I think it's time for some new judges. Fern Mallis ROCKS!
AI
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October 19, 2006 - 08:36 PM
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This feels so much like Season 2 when this board was filled with Chloe bashing. Now it's Jeffrey's turn.
Jeffrey can't hold a candle to Chloe.
If Heidi Klum said that I would believe it, from you I don't.
Heidi is in a position to know, you are not.
I really don't think that Heidi is all that. She's just a model who knows how to market herself.
bratpacker7
October 19, 2006 - 08:39 PM
hi everyone, this is my first time on here. i'm not even sure if this is the right place to post this, but i was just wondering if anyone knew the name of the song that jeffrey had playing during his runway show, or who sings it? thanks!
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The high empire waist and baby doll dress is the hottest thing right now.
In case you did not know that.
The shirt cut like this is extremely hot! For God's sake look at what Heidi and Laura were wearing!!!
Laura designed her own dress as she always does
Yes, and they were wearing high waist dresses (even before they were showing from their pregnancies!)
If you say so - - but I'm not really sure what the point is here.
I originally was only stating that empire waists and baby dolls are hot right now - in response to a post about Jeffrey's designs.
I'm not sure why someone would want to turn this into a competition.
Just because baby doll dresses are "hot" doesn't mean that they are attractive or fashionable. Young girls will wear anything so that they "belong", unfortunately.
NYC_Rocker
October 19, 2006 - 08:42 PM
I just registered here to vent, I'm so pissed off.
1. I can't believe that that arrogant, rude, no talent little [expletive deleted] Jeffrey won. He also gives "sobriety" a bad name. I didn't see anything even close to "sober" in his behavior.
2. Uli was clearly robbed.
3. I am SO sick of people ranting and raving about how "good" and "talented" Michael is and how he "knows a woman's body". Bullsh*t. Michael thinks with his d*ck. He dresses women like the "[expletive deleted]"s they are portrayed as in this misogynistic culture we live in. Tight tight tight, short short short skirts, way too much skin exposed. I find him offensive and highly disrespectful.
4. Mostly I am pissed at myself: I can't believe I actually hoped for a rational and fair outcome. What was I thinking???
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October 19, 2006 - 08:44 PM
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I really don't understand the judges. Jeffrey's stuff made even rail thin models look fat! What normal woman would want to wear that stuff? They also said they didn't like his two blue dresses so they didn't even like his entire collection. Heidi says all of Laura's is stunning and looks like a $30,000 collection. She also says she would wear everything Uli made and Nina says Uli's stuff is great and will sell for sure. So why vote for the really strange looking stuff almost no one will wear? Do they only consider it fashion if it looks weird? Or do the editors cut out so much stuff that we get every comment out of context?
They said - they didn't think the 2 blue dress were cohesive with the collection.
They did not say they did not like the dresses.
Actually they said they were horrible dresses. At least Fern Mallis did, and she has ten times more credence in the fashion industry than Heidi or Nina.
Amen! Too bad they didn't listen to Fern when it came to choosing the winner.
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October 19, 2006 - 08:48 PM
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The more I think about it, the angrier I get. I can't believe that Bravo tried to play the sympathy card and show us his "Mohawk Mistress" and their illegitimate child. They both look like a couple of groupies at a Sex Pistols concert, and that's supposed to be edgy? How about Nauseating? His wife really did seem like a nice girl, it's too bad that he won't marry her, I guess he wants an easy escape hatch in case he tires of her. But then again, she must not be the brightest bulb in the chandelier for chosing to hook up with a heroine addict who can't committ and has no managerial skills whatsoever.
Wow! That is some pretty UGLY hate. I sure would hate to have you on my Jury panel. You dont know anything about these people and their relationship. When did he say he wouldn't marry her? I don't see when he has had the time too. And would you rather she had terminated her child? He said they had not planed for him, but were in love and wanted him. It is still not a reason to jump into a marriage contract. And I care to differ with you on her brightness. She seemed to glow as Jeffery was on stage. Knowing that she was with a very shinning star. And I suppose you have never had any demons in your life, that perhaps you needed redemption from? Addiction is the easy part. Its staying clean that is hard. And Jeffery has done the very hard part for 5 hard, long years.
ArtInstigator
October 19, 2006 - 08:49 PM
Chefsha, Would you please post your source for the extensive "quotes" from Jeffrey?
thanks,
AI
whatacrock
October 19, 2006 - 08:51 PM
Let me begin by saying WHAT A CROCK!!!! The only taste that the judges have apparently is in their mouth!!!! Because they have shown that it was not in fashion! What are you thinking??? Jeffery I mean come on!! This is nothing more than a publicity stunt! You get someone that is uncouth and the personality that makes the Christmas Grinch look like a saint, that comes on TV and cries about trying to commit suicide and gets accused of cheating and you make him the Winner? I was and still am a Michael supporter BUT ULI WON hands down!!!! She turned all the heads at Bryant Park and people want to buy her clothes. This show proves that as long has you have a good back story and give the camera’s some drama you can break the rules and still come out on top. I just feel that Jeffery is the most undeserving of all of the designers!!! Tim Gunn you did an excellent job dealing with all of the matters and the allegations and as always a true gentleman and I would personally be ashamed to have my name associated with this project and their decision of letting Jeffery win.
paul_kg
October 19, 2006 - 08:59 PM
Well it turned out like it should have!
I like Michael but he didn't bring his a game here.
Laura made nice close but as usual the same old thing.
I thought it was very very close between Jeff and Uli but ultimatly
it came down to diversity and freshness where Jeff won it nicely!
The whole season Jeff did different things to were you may not know
it was his design where Uli and Laura you could tell right away as they
were basically the same rehashed dress. Michael made some very different
and interesting pieces throughout the season but didn't quite get it done for
the finally, were Uli stepped it up and could have won this if Jeff had slacked!
Congarts on getting it right PR!
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i see people saying that Laura had every right to bring it up if she thought he cheated, but before she seen his collection she said she wanted to win if nothing else so jeffery dont, so she was out for him, then like the judges pointed out the fact that it would have taken a ALOT of time for her (with 5 kids and preg no less) to sew ALL them beads on her dresses, hmmmmmm i wounder why LAURA was so quick to think that Jeff needed help
I don't think anyone doubts that Laura sewed "all them beads" herself,.... please.
....before she seen his collection.... she wanted to win if nothing else so jeffery dont....sew ALL them beads....i wounder why......
With such mastery of the English Language used in sticking up for Jeffery I want to know why this person wasn’t judging with their family member that must have been one of the judges at the Fashion Show in Bryant Park.
clothesmaven
October 19, 2006 - 09:10 PM
Right on, Gojeff! The people here should check out the European fashion scene and for that matter, check out the REAL American fashion shows. Jeff fits right in. Also you really must see his collection in person as it really is spectacular. His Cosa Nostra line is wonderful and to see it worn is something else. A fashion show is also a time for innovation and experimentation...check out Galliano or any even Karl Lagerfeld.
This was a reality show and you got reality.
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October 19, 2006 - 09:18 PM
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Project Runway just affirms my belief that fashion is no longer about making women look beautiful, it has become a hedonistic artform. Models are merely coat hangers with heads.
The dress stands alone as an independent piece of art, the woman wearing it is secondary.
Decades ago, fashion was about designing clothes to make women appear more elegant, adventurous, sexy, chic. Think Chanel. The fashions women wore made a statement about her; now designers create fashion to make a statement about themselves.
It doesn't matter if it looks good on only six women living on the planet -- this is deemed to be fashionable for almost everyone. If it doesn't look good on you, that is your fault.
And this is what passes for style. Even if it doesn't translate into something wearable for women, it is deemed "good", "worthy" and even "desirable."
What percentage of fashionable women in America would choose anything out of Jeffery's line over Uli's or Laura's? The MODELS didn't even look good in it.
The judges COMPLAINED that Laura's work was "impeccable" and that her designs were timeless and classic. Her construction was perfect. Most had hours of hand work. Laura's designs were the stuff of fashion back when it was about excellence.
Make no mistake -- the judges are telling us that fashion is no longer about quality. It is no longer about luxurious fabrics (think of Jeffrey's picnic basket evening gown). It is no longer about owning a piece to enhance your wardrobe and be worn for years to come.
And it certainly is no longer about making women look beautiful.
A-freakin'-men!!
This poster said exactly what I've been thinking and even wrote to a fellow PR fan... that Jeffery's clothes are about HIM and the statement he wants to make instead of being about the WOMAN.
Jeffery's may be art (not my taste tho) but they are not anything most women would wear. Who wants to look like a freak show. The classic styles are classic for a reason.... because they look good.
I'm done with PR, no longer a fan.
Impressionist painters, when they first exhibited their paintings were reviled - Monet, Renoir, Degas, Cezane, Manet. In the art world, there are those who paint pretty pictures (Uli, Laura) and those who bring an art form forward into new, innovative territory (Jeffery). Like the members of the French Academe, who denigrated the Impressionists, those who only look for "pretty" will degrade Jeffery's talent.
He is innovative, fresh, forward thinking, and a thoughtful business man (and business acumen is part of the mix determining who wins) and completely deserved to win.
On another topic about Jeffery/Laura (who is the villian) Jeffery says what I've thought for quite a while. Laura is a wonderful talented seamstress, and within her narrow category quite talented, but she is not America's complete sweetheart (although I think she's a mom I'd love to have had, full of love and joy and fun)...she is a competitive person, willing to try to psyche out a fellow competitor, and sometimes her "seriously ugly" side comes out.
Jeffery's words about Laura and her unfounded accustations (about which, he was a true gentleman on the last episode):
I was not angry, but I was peeved. I thought, “Oh man, we have a week. We could be celebrating this whole thing. We could be helping each other out.” There were models that weren’t going to be showing up. And we were all talking about, “Well, if yours doesn’t show up, you can maybe use some of mine.” And you know, I wanted there to be a camaraderie, but …. … I think Laura was genuinely threatened, and I don’t think she knew what she was looking at. I think that if Laura spent less time on the blogs, and more time reading over the rules and googling pleating services and finishing, she might not feel like somebody had one up on her. Thing is, Laura would call me. Four times in two and a half months. Almost on a schedule. The first three times she called me, it was to tell me about the blogs she was reading and about how the bloggers hate me. “How you doing?” “Good.” “Good, good. Man, those bloggers hate you.” A week later, “Man those bloggers hate you.” Another week later… And the last time she called, she said, “You must be incredibly busy. Are all your sewers sewing everything for you?” That Laura seemed to be obsessed with me. Obsessed. And she actually said to me, “I’m your friend.” And I said, “I’m not your friend,” and she said, “Well I had a problem with you.” And she didn’t really go into it, but who knew, why would you have a problem with me? What’s your problem with me? I don’t have a problem with you. Or anybody else. I may not like what you do or like the way you act. But what she was saying, was, “There’s something not right about you and I’m the authority on what is right and what is wrong, and I’m going to check you out.” And that was crazy to me. … made a point to go to her house with Jay McCarroll and Malan and Uli -- to watch the reunion show at her house, and you know, I don’t trust her. I don’t know...Not that she could do anything to me ever, but the way she attacked me was so petty and weird and unfounded. Really unfounded, she seemed to be delusional, that what she thought what was going on would be reality. It’s just a big waste of time. But I think you have to keep your friends close and your enemies closer. So -- you know, go watch TV at her house. She has beautiful kids, and I love her husband. He’s really a nice guy. Really smart, really funny.
And it just didn’t turn out to be that. And I was upset. I was not angry, but I was peeved. I thought, “Oh man, we have a week. We could be celebrating this whole thing. We could be helping each other out.” There were models that weren’t going to be showing up. And we were all talking about, “Well, if yours doesn’t show up, you can maybe use some of mine.” And you know, I wanted there to be a camaraderie, but …. … I think Laura was genuinely threatened, and I don’t think she knew what she was looking at. I think that if Laura spent less time on the blogs, and more time reading over the rules and googling pleating services and finishing, she might not feel like somebody had one up on her. Thing is, Laura would call me. Four times in two and a half months. Almost on a schedule. The first three times she called me, it was to tell me about the blogs she was reading and about how the bloggers hate me. “How you doing?” “Good.” “Good, good. Man, those bloggers hate you.” A week later, “Man those bloggers hate you.” Another week later… And the last time she called, she said, “You must be incredibly busy. Are all your sewers sewing everything for you?” That Laura seemed to be obsessed with me. Obsessed. And she actually said to me, “I’m your friend.” And I said, “I’m not your friend,” and she said, “Well I had a problem with you.” And she didn’t really go into it, but who knew, why would you have a problem with me? What’s your problem with me? I don’t have a problem with you. Or anybody else. I may not like what you do or like the way you act. But what she was saying, was, “There’s something not right about you and I’m the authority on what is right and what is wrong, and I’m going to check you out.” And that was crazy to me. … made a point to go to her house with Jay McCarroll and Malan and Uli -- to watch the reunion show at her house, and you know, I don’t trust her. I don’t know...Not that she could do anything to me ever, but the way she attacked me was so petty and weird and unfounded. Really unfounded, she seemed to be delusional, that what she thought what was going on would be reality. It’s just a big waste of time. But I think you have to keep your friends close and your enemies closer. So -- you know, go watch TV at her house. She has beautiful kids, and I love her husband. He’s really a nice guy. Really smart, really funny.
so many things in your post are patently ridiculous. Jeffrey has business acumen? You relaly believe that after he pulled out that rats nest of papers and had to SORT THEM while Tim Gunn was waiting? Or the fact that ehe didn't keep his receipt for the bubble shorts when he KNEW he had to produce it? The fact that he wasn't even AWARE he was over budget until Tim Gunn told him? If that's business acumen, I think we'll see him in chapter 13 by next spring. And Laura had every right to be suspicious of him. People think I'm wrong for attacking his personal life... but the way he conducts his personal life makes a statement as to his character, and an obnoxious drug addled punk who won't marry a woman he claims to be the "Love of his life" tells me he is dishonest, is not able to cope with conflict constructively, and is incredibly selfish, putting his own wants over the needs of his child. In my book, a person of such low caliber is to be watched very closely because they simply cannot be trusted. Jeffrey was upset that Laura questioned his integrity, JUST LOOK AT YOUSELF, JEFFREY! Who in thier right mind would look at you and think you were a moral, upright, trustworthy person?
actor59
October 19, 2006 - 09:26 PM
Evening AI,
The quotes were from Jeffrey's exit interview.....He admitts to playing the bad boy this season etc.. It is a good read..I still am coming out of shock from what happened here in NOLA after the last two days..so have not seen all the exit interviews or Tims Take.
Glad Jeffrey won but it still has not sunk in because of real life trauma the past two days.
Kinda of sat unlife like during the final last night took the fun out of it.
For the gang if you have been watching the national news you will know the story that has transpired over the past two days here in NOLA and that should say it all...very sad! sorry for going off topic but sometimes real life comes and hits you in the face.
On topic I really thought Uli was going to win last night but as a huge Jeffrey Fan glad he did. I did love how all the judges were wipping tears from their eyes when Jeffrey was playing with his son Harrison on the runway.
Sawicki
October 19, 2006 - 09:27 PM
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Amen! Too bad they didn't listen to Fern when it came to choosing the winner.
Amen again!
First time posting here - I've been watching all season and just wanted to voice my opinion as yet another woman that wouldn't be caught dead in Jeff's clothes. I've seen it all already in Hot Topic at prom time. I can't believe after all that talk in other seasons about the character and personality of the people competing and whether they would be able to succeed, they completely ignored Jeffrey's attitude and actions throughtout the show.
Sooo disappointed in Michael... He was so sophisticated all season, and when he gets to Bryant Park he dresses his models up in such slutty outfits! Certainly a side of him that didn't show through well enough before.
Angelic_Vampire
October 19, 2006 - 09:28 PM
I guess my whole beef, being a new viewer of the show is Bravo, stooping to the major networks lower level of creating drama through editing. I work for attorneys and my mother worked for doctors, all who have massive egos that comes with the occupation. Designers are similar and the producers shouldn't need to create drama, since its's already there with their egos. Both Jeffrey and Laura's reputation were possibly damaged on the last episodes on what they basically threw out. So rather than helping their careers as winners of the the final four, lets make one to be a cheater and one to be a jealous b#%th. It wasn't needed for viewership in my opinion and I feel our worst venom on this site should be at neither Laura or Jeffrey, but the producers.
eyelikepr
October 19, 2006 - 09:34 PM
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QUOTE re: Laura:
"She has been very nice to the rest of the contestants. Is it because she is mature? Affluent? Mainstream? I don't get your rant. Clue me in... "
I was not one of the ranters, but in contrasting the bad behavior of Jeffrey and Laura, you see that one merely never censors himself and the other is slyly condescending. The behaviors both stem from the same psychological place, but one is honest and confrontational and the other is passive-aggresive. And yes, socio-economic status has a lot to do with the form of the display. Laura did an awful lot of eye-rolling and offered a lot of unsolicited "advice" throughout the season - she was no angel. Competition brings out the worst in some people - and I would count both Jeffrey and Laura in that column.
We can agree to disagree. LOL
haji81872
October 19, 2006 - 09:36 PM
People think I'm wrong for attacking his personal life... but the way he conducts his personal life makes a statement as to his character, and an obnoxious drug addled punk who won't marry a woman he claims to be the "Love of his life" tells me he is dishonest, is not able to cope with conflict constructively, and is incredibly selfish, putting his own wants over the needs of his child. In my book, a person of such low caliber is to be watched very closely because they simply cannot be trusted. Jeffrey was upset that Laura questioned his integrity, JUST LOOK AT YOUSELF, JEFFREY! Who in thier right mind would look at you and think you were a moral, upright, trustworthy person?
Wow, this is so disgusting. To make comments like this based on what you saw on a TV show is just wrong. I have questions about you as well based on your post. Is that fair?
He has been sober for five years, but you call him a drug addled punk.
He consistently speaks of how he felt terrible about leaving his wife and child behind so that he could do this to make their lives better, but you question his love. His girlfriend enccourages his pursuit, yet you somehow know better.
You say he puts his wants over the need of his child, yet Laura left six behind, where is the outrage toward her. He had a child out of wedlock, yet they are living together, and he loves his son. He didn't just say not my problem and leave them behind liek so many men do. I am sure they will get married some day, it just isn't the proper time. Isn't that better then getting married because they have a child and putting that child through a poor marriage and maybe ultimately divorce because it was based on circumstance and not love like so many many people have done before?
Finally you base you characterization of him based on his looks. How ultimately shallow.
anitarf
October 19, 2006 - 09:36 PM
Wow....people here are really intolerant...who ever said that marriage and morality are synonyms? I don't understand how people can be so judgmental, it's a reality tv fashion competion...judge the clothes..not the person who makes them.
Personally...I loved Uli, Laura and Jeff. I thought Jeff was the most innovative though.... so congrats!!!
anitarf
October 19, 2006 - 09:39 PM
Quote:
People think I'm wrong for attacking his personal life... but the way he conducts his personal life makes a statement as to his character, and an obnoxious drug addled punk who won't marry a woman he claims to be the "Love of his life" tells me he is dishonest, is not able to cope with conflict constructively, and is incredibly selfish, putting his own wants over the needs of his child. In my book, a person of such low caliber is to be watched very closely because they simply cannot be trusted. Jeffrey was upset that Laura questioned his integrity, JUST LOOK AT YOUSELF, JEFFREY! Who in thier right mind would look at you and think you were a moral, upright, trustworthy person?
Wow, this is so disgusting. To make comments like this based on what you saw on a TV show is just wrong. I have questions about you as well based on your post. Is that fair?
He has been sober for five years, but you call him a drug addled punk.
He consistently speaks of how he felt terrible about leaving his wife and child behind so that he could do this to make their lives better, but you question his love. His girlfriend enccourages his pursuit, yet you somehow know better.
You say he puts his wants over the need of his child, yet Laura left six behind, where is the outrage toward her. He had a child out of wedlock, yet they are living together, and he loves his son. He didn't just say not my problem and leave them behind liek so many men do. I am sure they will get married some day, it just isn't the proper time. Isn't that better then getting married because they have a child and putting that child through a poor marriage and maybe ultimately divorce because it was based on circumstance and not love like so many many people have done before?
Finally you base you characterization of him based on his looks. How ultimately shallow.
I couldn't agree more!!!!
actor59
October 19, 2006 - 09:40 PM
The funny thing to me is Jeffrey already admitted he played the A-Hole on purpose in his exit interview...I know tempors are high but I think most people would read everything Tim's Take and watch all the bonus videos etc. before commenting..but I'm guilty of the same LOL
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