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LMAO, yeah, JMe, going to be way too much going on here..may have to hide. Part of my point was that Cassie has just as much right to her opinion, AND that her reasoning was "possible" under certain conditions. However, one person just kept being a butthead and that is NO way to make a new poster welcome. There has been a lot of biatching about new peeps getting a lot of tude from long time posters. Who will win??? Anyones guess at this point. But Cassie has made a good point as far as I'm concerned, whether I agree or not. SOOOO, I am now stepping off my soap box...LOL

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First Kristl...NOBODY better cut off my devils advocate tail!! AND I better not see any "devils advocate soup!" Ox tails only please! lol Anything is possible K. Not sure what will happen. Just got a little tired of Cassie being bashed and disrespected for HER OPINION. So, had to put the suit back on and see what I could do. However, the whole idea is not impossible to see. We are not the only ones being deceived by the producers, why couldn't Tom be too???

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HEY YOU!!!!

YEAH YOU WITH THE PINSTRIPE

WAVING THAT TAIL AROUND



DIDN'T I TELL YOU IT WAS ALL IN THE PLAN

THE MATRIX OF THINGS

IF YOU WILL

AFTER ALL

TOM GRANDFATHERED MARCEL IN

TOLD HIM TO BE AS NASTY AS POSSIBLE

TO ASSIST ILAN SO HE COULD BE LAYED BY ELIA

WIN THE COMPETITION

AND SPLIT THE PRIZE MONEY

SO HE COULD TAKE GAIL OUT ON THE TOWN

AND GET SOME DECENT FOOD

WHAT CAN I SAY

YOU GOT THE TAIL

I GOT THE FORK



TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

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ROTFLMAO...Cassie is going to think EVERYONE on these boards is CrAzY!!

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Editing can make the war in iraq look like kiddies in a sandbox.

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I didn't t hink you could reach a new low, but you have.

i wonder if you have any clue how many Iraquis have been killed in the Iraq occupaion??? Your lack of any human decency is heart-breaking.

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I sense some background story here...?

Editing can make anything look other than what it is, including the horror going on in Iraq. Why do you think, from Day #1, that reporters' movements were highly restricted and often choreographed? With footage submitted for broadcast having to be approved in many cases?

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Oh hell no. Im not ready this correctly, am I? Are we really going to start a discussion about this? I have a nephew who served bravely for 17 months and has another tour in a few months so idiots like us can [expletive deleted] about a war from the comfort of our own homes.


Can we please not have this discussion on the Top Chef boards, please?

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Unless one is a "chronic masturbator."

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Now don't go knocking my hobbies

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Now, now, Sooner, that wasn't a dig at you. Where's all those pre Old Testament "crap" gods we gave away when you need 'em--Jeff, The God of Biscuits; Dennis, the God Of Hair-dos ... hell, I'd even take The Emperor Fabulous and Really Interesting Guy right about now.

All this bickering over a little old TV show, and people engaging in the very "bullying" behaviors they claim to abhor and comdemn - I so need an Eddie Izzard fix!

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Well doesn't that go both ways? Aren't waJOKE, sooner, Kin(whatever), and the rest of the lot trying to "bully" everyone who is a Marcel fan to back down off this board so they can continue their stupid Marcel bashing, which frankly makes them all look like bravos minions, the "covens" friends, or the attackers themselves?

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Youd think we could agree to disagree, wouldnt ya? Go back and look at who is doing the most bashing. It aint the non Marcel fans doing the most, I assure you. Amazon has made it an art form to bash, even if she is dead wrong and proven to be so, yet continue on as if she is that God Warrior from Trading Spouses or whatever it was called.

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My, you're in fine form today. Still protecting your favorites and sniping at those who don't worship you. Quite the blog author, aren't you? Very professional.

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Youd think we could agree to disagree, wouldnt ya? Go back and look at who is doing the most bashing. It aint the non Marcel fans doing the most, I assure you. Amazon has made it an art form to bash, even if she is dead wrong and proven to be so, yet continue on as if she is that God Warrior from Trading Spouses or whatever it was called.

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It's only natural that X percent of people are going to pull for Marcel because he is most decidedly they underdog. That's completely understandable. But some of these folks cross the line of sanity into Conspiracy City.

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People who poo-poo conspiracy theories are often the ones who benefit most from trying to deny a conspiracy exists.

Conspiracies, large and small, occur every day. When three teenage girls agree to secretly exclude one of their four-friend group from a common activity, that's a conspiracy. When a government invades another country based on lies told to the public, that's a conspiracy. It happens all the time.

To even try to denigrate "conspiracy theories" on a board about Top Chef is ridiculous. Ilan has actively conspired with others to get Marcel thrown off the show. Sam, Ilan, Elia and Cliff conspired to assault Marcel. Elia herself urged a conspiracy where they all would shave their heads and Marcel would be left with a full head of hair.

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Hubby's cousins do a lot of traveling. Bike shows, car shows, etc. They also go to Indy and Taladega (sp) Once a friend took a remote control car, removed the body and put a baby car seat on it. Then they put the dog in it and drove him around in the pit. Guess all the crews were taking pix and stuff. Sounded pretty cool.

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WAS THINKING A LITTLE BIGGER

LIKE ONE OF THOSE 12V HUMMERS



TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

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Gosh, that would be TOO cute. Sounds like a great plan.

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IF I COULD ONLY GET HER TO WEAR SHADES LOL

MY DOBI

HAD A "DRESS UP PERSONALLITY"

BOUGHT NECKLASSES, EARINGS, CLOTHES FOR HER LOL

NEEDLESS TO SAY GOT SOME FUNNY LOOKS



TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN

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My little ones won't even wear a sweater...even my male who is always cold. Like dressing a tasmanin devil! And, they can shimmy out of them faster than a stripper!

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DON'T THEY GET COLD SIZ????

THEMS GOT SHORT HAIR

HMMMMMMMMM

NOT SURE IF YOU CAN MAKE THAT COMPARISON

STRIPPERS TAKE STUFF OFF MIGHTY SLOW

BUT WHAT DO I KNOW

NUTHIN NUTHIN AT ALL

TAKE CARE OF THEM BABIES

KEEP EM WARM

ALOHA

HAVE FUN

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After the producers blog called what happened to Marcel a "compelling story," I don't trust anything they say because they do not think like normal people.

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You're a strange person Amazon. Lot's of stories that are not particularly pleasant are "compelling". Jesus built a 2,000 year career on one.

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Didn't you know, Sooner? It's all fair game when you're bucking for the "Magdalene Of The Year" award. I think Marcel's got that one in the bag, but I guess you can't blame someone for trying.

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I thought it was in very poor taste for a producer of TC to call the assault on Marcel "a compelling story." It occurred under their watch, for pete's sake, recorded with a camera they gave to the Assault Brigade.

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I beg to respectfully differ with you there Amazon. Whether it's a kitchen or a business office people have to go along to get along. I have worked in both settings and that particular dynamic is the same. Sometimes it's too hostile and you have to bail... even if you really need the gig. Your sanity is worth more than cash.

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Wait ... how does "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen" not apply to the "modern" work environment? I've worked in kitchens, and I've worked in offices, both now and in the past, and while it would be great to say that the same hostilities, backstabbing and "politics" experienced 20 years ago no longer apply, that's simply not been the case in my experience.

A good friend and co-worker of mine resigned in advance of being fired yesterday because she couldn't deal with the "heat" her new boss (who happened to be my old boss) gave her.

She couldn't stand it after 4 months, so she got out of the kitchen. Modern employee. Modern environment. Old saying, but hardly irrelevant or inapplicable.

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I don't think a producer lying about something that happened on the show, especially where the show in question has had liability-potential events occur, is going to damage their career. I think they will end up enhancing their career potential.

Also, isn't it interesting that Marcel finally sought sanctuary in the bathroom? I assumed it was because it is the only room with a lock on it, and the torment was continuing by Sam/Ilan/Cliff, with Elia either standing by mutely or laughing her *ss off.

But if it is also the only place where filming is allowed, that adds another reason.

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I don't think that they (production) lied about not being there as well. Think about it, there were five people who were there who could publicly refute that lie.

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That's assuming that there isn't something in the contracts they signed that forbids them talking about productions' actions or interventions.

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So, just to be clear, the "bully-gang" is now the "Assault Brigade", correct? And said "Assault Brigade" is blackmailing production?


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Uh oh Swiss you didn't agree with her [Amazon]. Something tells me she's going to out you as a secret member of the bully-gang.
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Yes. I remember when reading and interacting on this board used to be fun. Now it almost seems more like work.

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and to Maui

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Youd think we could agree to disagree, wouldnt ya? Go back and look at who is doing the most bashing. It aint the non Marcel fans doing the most, I assure you. Amazon has made it an art form to bash, even if she is dead wrong and proven to be so, yet continue on as if she is that God Warrior from Trading Spouses or whatever it was called.

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It's only natural that X percent of people are going to pull for Marcel because he is most decidedly they underdog. That's completely understandable. But some of these folks cross the line of sanity into Conspiracy City.

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People who poo-poo conspiracy theories are often the ones who benefit most from trying to deny a conspiracy exists.

Conspiracies, large and small, occur every day. When three teenage girls agree to secretly exclude one of their four-friend group from a common activity, that's a conspiracy. When a government invades another country based on lies told to the public, that's a conspiracy. It happens all the time.

To even try to denigrate "conspiracy theories" on a board about Top Chef is ridiculous. Ilan has actively conspired with others to get Marcel thrown off the show. Sam, Ilan, Elia and Cliff conspired to assault Marcel. Elia herself urged a conspiracy where they all would shave their heads and Marcel would be left with a full head of hair.

And the production staff has certainly opened itself wide to conspiracy theories.

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You know what WAJ..This will be the first and last time I ever do this...Peeps who continually argue with other peeps are just as bad as the peeps they are calling out to me...You may find this to be a verbal game of who is wittier.... smarter and more adept with the keyboard..But if you don't like Amazon.......why keep at her???

You must enjoy this somewhow so don't [expletive deleted] about it
if Amazon does it...It is getting far too nasty for me and it hurts to read this to tell you the truth....We need not hate so much no matter who started it..But I shall just
ignore and scroll on down the road and mind my own biz as I usually do cause life is just a bit too LONG to read anymore of this sh&t!!!!

And now I can understand why YOU like the Crack Pack...lol

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Youd think we could agree to disagree, wouldnt ya? Go back and look at who is doing the most bashing. It aint the non Marcel fans doing the most, I assure you. Amazon has made it an art form to bash, even if she is dead wrong and proven to be so, yet continue on as if she is that God Warrior from Trading Spouses or whatever it was called.

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It's only natural that X percent of people are going to pull for Marcel because he is most decidedly they underdog. That's completely understandable. But some of these folks cross the line of sanity into Conspiracy City.

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People who poo-poo conspiracy theories are often the ones who benefit most from trying to deny a conspiracy exists.

Conspiracies, large and small, occur every day. When three teenage girls agree to secretly exclude one of their four-friend group from a common activity, that's a conspiracy. When a government invades another country based on lies told to the public, that's a conspiracy. It happens all the time.

To even try to denigrate "conspiracy theories" on a board about Top Chef is ridiculous. Ilan has actively conspired with others to get Marcel thrown off the show. Sam, Ilan, Elia and Cliff conspired to assault Marcel. Elia herself urged a conspiracy where they all would shave their heads and Marcel would be left with a full head of hair.

And the production staff has certainly opened itself wide to conspiracy theories.

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You know what WAJ..This will be the first and last time I ever do this...Peeps who continually argue with other peeps are just as bad as the peeps they are calling out to me...You may find this to be a verbal game of who is wittier.... smarter and more adept with the keyboard..But if you don't like Amazon.......why keep at her???

You must enjoy this somewhow so don't [expletive deleted] about it
if Amazon does it...It is getting far too nasty for me and it hurts to read this to tell you the truth....We need not hate so much no matter who started it..But I shall just
ignore and scroll on down the road and mind my own biz as I usually do cause life is just a bit too LONG to read anymore of this sh&t!!!!

And now I can understand why YOU like the Crack Pack...lol

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I want to know what it is about Marcel, himself, not the groups doing that makes you like Marcel. Is it his cooking ability, his personality, what. Disregard all the problems he has had, Speak to us about Marcel.

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1) He has klept his focus on the foods and not the drama or the money.

2) He has not treated the competition like a "Survivor" show but a forum to produce great food.

3) He has not responded to mistreatment or verbal attacks in kind, with the one exception of Betty in the firehouse, and that was itself mild and he stopped when asked.

4) He has not thrown others under the bus or personal maligned them at judge'st able but brought the discussion back to the food. NOr has he retyaliated when attacked personally at the judges table.

5) He has not put down other contestants in front of their guests.

6) He has maintained a sense of humor while being bullied individually and collectively.

7) He has tried to be innovative in the face of verbal put downs.

8) He has always offered his help in the kitchen even to those who had previously abused him.

9) He has shown a passion and knowledge of food that is inspiring.

10) He has acknowledged the positive contributions and talents of the other chefs while never receiving so much as a pat on the back from the other chefs for his efforts or accomplishments.

11) He is able to laugh at himself and his weaknesses.

12) He does not hold a grudge.

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LMAO, yeah, JMe, going to be way too much going on here..may have to hide. Part of my point was that Cassie has just as much right to her opinion, AND that her reasoning was "possible" under certain conditions. However, one person just kept being a butthead and that is NO way to make a new poster welcome. There has been a lot of biatching about new peeps getting a lot of tude from long time posters. Who will win??? Anyones guess at this point. But Cassie has made a good point as far as I'm concerned, whether I agree or not. SOOOO, I am now stepping off my soap box...LOL

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Too right....You go giiiiirl!

Here's the thing...I think you should never call a poster an idiot for what they think even though I would love to.

It is rood!!!!!

Take issue with the content.....not the poster.

Don't we all think peeps who do not agree with us are idiots??????.....lol
But calling them an idiot is just not very nice.

BTW..Has Mr JUSTME groveled for forgiveness on the hair cutting issue yet?????

I think he needs to do some serious groveling????

Maybe even buy you a nice present....Airplane tix to Hawaii would be nice:O))))

Since we are co Miss Savants of 2007..I go too!!!!

Woooooooohooooooooo

He'll be mincemeat...lol

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LOLZ!! Im the butthead you all are referring to. BTW, I NEVER called anyone an idiot, you just read that into it. As much as Cassie has a right to her opinion we all do. She was the one who copped tude with me first with her implying that I was stupid (saying $hit like, "are the words too big for you?) Look, I could care less that she said that, but if you guys are going to rant & rave about expressing opinions while stepping on ppls toes, then I think you ought to extend me the same courtesy & rant & rave back at her for doing the exact same thing.

This whole thing started because I said, "Lay off the weed" Now if you guys don't get that I was joking then kindly remove the stick from your arses. Again, just kidding folks!!! Why is everyone so serious around here?

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OH NO......Ms [expletive deleted]..lol..I didn't mean you at ALL.....I agree with much of what I have seen you have posted and you have been nice as far as I can tell...I never even read that whole thread and didn't even know you posted to Cassie.If Cassie did that well then youse two fight it out.
I ain't going back 300 pages.))))
I just meant in general....Sorry if you thought I meant you.........Oy and lol!!

Plus I didn't call anyone a butthead...that would be ROOD....lol

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Haha... yup, at least I think it is me that they are referring to. It's all good over here on my part. I carry no ill will towards anyone on this board. I hope that Cassie doesn't either (Because I was only kidding when I told her to lay off the weed) I guess I should've stopped there because I knew that it irked her by her reply. Oh well, live & learn.

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I beg to respectfully differ with you there Amazon. Whether it's a kitchen or a business office people have to go along to get along. I have worked in both settings and that particular dynamic is the same. Sometimes it's too hostile and you have to bail... even if you really need the gig. Your sanity is worth more than cash.

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A good friend and co-worker of mine resigned in advance of being fired yesterday because she couldn't deal with the "heat" her new boss (who happened to be my old boss) gave her.

She couldn't stand it after 4 months, so she got out of the kitchen. Modern employee. Modern environment. Old saying, but hardly irrelevant or inapplicable.

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Isn't kind of odd that Marcel is wearing a hat for the first time in the next episode? As if he's saying..."Don't touch the hair, you freaks!"

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here's another wild conspiracy theory. I wonder if the winner will offer Marcel the money in apology? that'd be crazy. I mean, I agree, they should have sent them all home. but I don't think they should have declared Marcel winner by default. but perhaps offered him the money and gave no one the title? I guess they couldn't do that though. his food just hasn't been that great. he's been in the middle mostly and a few times on the bottom of the pile.

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They need to bring Tiffani back to serve as a kind of 'guard' to watch them in the kitchen while they cook. I can see her now..'SHUT THAT REFRIDGERATOR DOOR!! CLEAN THAT UP! GET AWAY FROM HIS POT! MOOOOOVE IT!!! NO SEXUAL COMMENTS ALLOWED YOU FUKWAD! CHICKEN LIVERS AND CHOCOLATE?? WTF ARE YOU THINKING??" lol

Tiffani would shine.

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