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sizzler
LMAO, yeah, JMe, going to be way too much going on here..may have to hide. Part of my point was that Cassie has just as much right to her opinion, AND that her reasoning was "possible" under certain conditions. However, one person just kept being a butthead and that is NO way to make a new poster welcome. There has been a lot of biatching about new peeps getting a lot of tude from long time posters. Who will win??? Anyones guess at this point. But Cassie has made a good point as far as I'm concerned, whether I agree or not. SOOOO, I am now stepping off my soap box...LOL





Too right....You go giiiiirl!

Here's the thing...I think you should never call a poster an idiot for what they think even though I would love to.

It is rood!!!!!

Take issue with the content.....not the poster.

Don't we all think peeps who do not agree with us are idiots??????.....lol
But calling them an idiot is just not very nice.

BTW..Has Mr JUSTME groveled for forgiveness on the hair cutting issue yet?????

I think he needs to do some serious groveling????

Maybe even buy you a nice present....Airplane tix to Hawaii would be nice:O))))

Since we are co Miss Savants of 2007..I go too!!!!

Woooooooohooooooooo

He'll be mincemeat...lol






Thanks Kristl...do try to stick up for peeps. Naw, didn't give JMe TOOO much grief about the hair...let him off pretty easy. BUT, those tics to Hawaii do sound tempting...but Kristl? You may have to wrestle Hubby for the extra one...LOL




TAP TAP TAP TAP
( MY FOOT ON THE FLOOR OF THE AIRBUS)
NOW LADIES...........
WHO GOT MY SOAPBOX????

TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN




OOPS, sorry JMe, thought I had returned it. Hope I didn't wear it out jumping on and off SO many times lately. I'm done now, no more soap-box standing for me! lol
sizzler
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...LMAO Yes, they have short hair but HATE to wear sweaters. They both have their own bankie..and favorite spot to sleep..her the couch, him our bed. During the day, she is still on the couch and he gets in his bed on the floor. They BOTH can get so wrapped up in their bankies that you can hardly tell they are there. He will lay on the bathroom floor on the matt in front of the heater vent when it kicks on to you have to be careful about walking in there when the lights are off and it is dark. LOL When they are outside (if warm enough) He finds a sheltered spot in the sun and just sits there. Maybe I should have said they strip like a $5 hooker. LOL




Or, if they're REALLY fast, "...like a $5 hooker on the Saturday night before the rent is due."




LOL, that they are Amazon...and when it comes to wearing clothes, my little wiener dogs are Marsupial fast!!




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DANG YOU LADIES CRACK MY POT LOL

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN




Well then, our mission has been accomplished!! Another CRACKED POT!! lol
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Where's my pic woman???

Gotta get my kitty buns to bed... work early 2marrow... yuk. I'm still 20 dam pages behind on here, but with the way things are playing out, not so sure I care. May just say screw it til Wed's epi.






WELL, here is the problem. I have some pics on my puter, but every time I try to send it, it either uses my OLD email address or won't let me add it to one with my NEW email address. Any suggestions...anyone, anyone, Buler, Buler..




Mac or Pc??




PC, and good morning Holster. Was starting to look like I was hogging the boards. Just get up way too early so do a lot of posting in the AM
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Mac or Pc??




PC, and good morning Holster. Was starting to look like I was hogging the boards. Just get up way too early so do a lot of posting in the AM




Mornin. Mmm. I thought so. SO, the "attach" command won't work?
If it were a Mac, I could help. I'd just delete the old account in preferences. But PC? I'm at a loss. Sorry
sizzler
Mac or Pc??




PC, and good morning Holster. Was starting to look like I was hogging the boards. Just get up way too early so do a lot of posting in the AM




Mornin. Mmm. I thought so. SO, the "attach" command won't work?
If it were a Mac, I could help. I'd just delete the old account in preferences. But PC? I'm at a loss. Sorry




No, have tried everything. Thanks for trying though. Will still keep seeking the answer to my delema before Maui gets her fur all riled up! LOL
Holster
Found this video of Sam and Ilan celebrating Xmas/Hannakuh in NYC together....doing rap! SOIGNE!

Warning adult content...not for office environemts/children nearby....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dmVU08zVpA&eurl=
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IN today's Las Vegas Sun:

"Strangely, during a phone interview Friday morning Vigneron says he still gets phone calls from Hall. "He has been calling me every day. He wished me a merry Christmas and says he's just checking in. (But) I haven't returned any, because he was such a (jerk) on the show.""

Wow, That Ilan is one wacked-out dude!
Now, it sounds like he's stalking Marcel.

Whack!


http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/.../566693449.html




I wonder if this means Marcel won.






I don't know. It's a good question. I think it might mean that Elia won too. She's been mostly quiet except for that, "I love Jesus" interview which sounds more like a politician who's announcing her candidacy (which is NOT to say thaty she was entirely sincere in her own mind of course...but it was so very out of place).

If BRAVO gives her a positive spin next week, they may be trying to groom the audience for her winning it, not that that will work of course. We HAVe seen the video screenshots.

On the other hand, the brat pack may be trying to offset the intense dislike many viewers seem to feel for them now given their behavior on screen.

So weird.

So very very weird.


Of course, to the viewers, Marcel has already won a more important contest. Decency. I'd take that over a good meal any day.




except this whole cheating thing. Elia is saying someone is cheating. is she talking to Marcel? the cut makes it look that way, but theyd o that stuff all the time. also, there is a part where Tom says we aren't talking about your behavior in the kithcen, we're talking about your food. wonder who these things are being said too. I'm thinking, if Tom bashes his food and Elia accuses him of cheating, he'll end up getting a bad spin. hopefully not though. I just wonder who "cheated" and "how" exactly??? the reason I thought she might be saying it to Marcel is b/c he says, why don't you just say it out right.
0phelia
I have been wondering the same thing for days now, who is the person Elia accuses of cheating? Lee Anne promises at the end of her current blog that in Hawaii there is less drama and more food…

To me the preview looks like Bravo may make Lee Anne eat her words.
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So do I. It seems that Marcel's main fault is the inability to come up with a snappy comeback that would make others back down. For example, when Ilan made that comment about him never having had sex, Marcel could have said any number of things rather than remaining silent and containing his anger. For example,
"Look in the mirror,"
"Really? Well, you're clearly the world expert on not having sex,"
"Drop dead,"
"Har har, you're so funny I forgot to laugh,"
"Sticks and stones, you've got no cahones,"
"Time for your daily phone call home to Mommy," or
"Yeah, but at least I have a d.i.c.k."





Or, "Blow-up dolls don't count."




OMG... LMAO!!!

I did just re-watch this episode the other day, and it seemed to me the even Marcel thought it was funny b/c he did genuinely chuckle out loud (COL). Reason #27 of why I do like Marcel: he doesn't take himself so seriously that he cannot even laugh at himself every once in awhile. Because believe me, if the tables were turned & he had said that to another contestant... you just know all hell would've broke loose.
MicrowaveHo
PS. I forgot to add Peace to the end of that post, since it seems to have really caught on here.

Peace
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IN today's Las Vegas Sun:

"Strangely, during a phone interview Friday morning Vigneron says he still gets phone calls from Hall. "He has been calling me every day. He wished me a merry Christmas and says he's just checking in. (But) I haven't returned any, because he was such a (jerk) on the show.""

Wow, That Ilan is one wacked-out dude!
Now, it sounds like he's stalking Marcel.

Whack!


http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/.../566693449.html


Haha.. yup. I knew Ilan had an unrequited man love for Marcel. First confirmed by his myspace & now this. Who was it earlier who said tha Carolina was a fictitious character? Snort out loud (SOL) haha
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IN today's Las Vegas Sun:

"Strangely, during a phone interview Friday morning Vigneron says he still gets phone calls from Hall. "He has been calling me every day. He wished me a merry Christmas and says he's just checking in. (But) I haven't returned any, because he was such a (jerk) on the show.""

Wow, That Ilan is one wacked-out dude!
Now, it sounds like he's stalking Marcel.

Whack!


http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/.../566693449.html




Dear Lord, Ilan is out of his mind! I hope he doesn't read these boards and see I voted for him 10,000 fukkin times! I do NOT need a stalker! (had one already-they suck!)

*Ilan baby if you read this I lied about the voting thing..it was HOLSTER who did the voting for ya*

*snickers*


In Ilan's whack mind he probably wishes it were Marcel voting for him *wink wink*
MicrowaveHo
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IN today's Las Vegas Sun:

"Strangely, during a phone interview Friday morning Vigneron says he still gets phone calls from Hall. "He has been calling me every day. He wished me a merry Christmas and says he's just checking in. (But) I haven't returned any, because he was such a (jerk) on the show.""

Wow, That Ilan is one wacked-out dude!
Now, it sounds like he's stalking Marcel.

Whack!


http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/.../566693449.html




Dear Lord, Ilan is out of his mind! I hope he doesn't read these boards and see I voted for him 10,000 fukkin times! I do NOT need a stalker! (had one already-they suck!)

*Ilan baby if you read this I lied about the voting thing..it was HOLSTER who did the voting for ya*

*snickers*





LOL!! OMG, I just hershey-squirted in my pants, I'm laughing so much!
I'll get you Todd for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Geez, I'll have to go into the witness protection program.
Stay away, Ilan, you FREAK!

SO frickin, f**kin FUNNY!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LOLZ I <3 you Holster!!!
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Uh Uh, neener neener! I just started the ignore so hrmph! Dont ya love it when your meds kick in? Having the flu rules! Maybe I will do a Mikey and do my best posting while medicated. Whaddya think, am I the next great bard?


Nah, for real. Im very bored with all the bully-gang [censored]. My point has been proven, nothing else to say. What the hell am I gonna talk about until Wednesday?

brillke




LOL> I hope you know I was kidding. But seriously,I know WAJ wants his pound of flesh, but for the rest of us, it's like watching 3 teenagers pick at their zits. Stop already! LOL.







Holster,

I gave up trying to figure out if you were kidding or not a long time ago. I always assume you are full of [censored] and your eyes are brown to prove it.

I can understand everyone getting fed up with the bickering, really. I can also understand WAJ wanting that pound of flesh. Either way, Im gonna do my best to ignore, pinky promise.


Its all good,


brillke




OK BRILL

GOTTA STEP IN HERE

HOLSTERS BEEN COOL

SO HAS AMAZON

NOT SURE WHAT ALL THE JIVE IS ABOUT

BUT YOU'VE CERTAINLY BECOME THE OGRE

YOU STOOD UP FOR IC AWHILE BACK

NOW YOU DO WHAT YOU WANTED TO STOP

SO WHAT'S UP BRILL???

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN




Holster and I are fine as far as I know. I made the [censored]/brown eyes comment as a joke,it cracked me up, and I think I explained it now. Its all good.

Amazon has not been cool, IMO. Its not cool to call people liars and when they prove they are not, to not apologize for saying they were. I sank to her level, my bad. I had my say and have more then proven my point. I wash my hands of her.


Anywhoo, morning hun,




brillke
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Okay, new contest. What would be a great comeback line for Marcel to have uttered after Ilan slammed him with that dig about how he'd never had sex?



He shoulda said, "Oh Ilan, you know you want to pop my cherry" Eeeeeeeeeeewww!!! I hate that saying & yet I just said it. *grosses out on myself*
MicrowaveHo
Who is the person that calls Marcel Mr Mc Foamy? Thought he'd get a kick out of this:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b65/Hibb...lNeutronFGV.jpg

Posted on Ilans myspace
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IN today's Las Vegas Sun:

"Strangely, during a phone interview Friday morning Vigneron says he still gets phone calls from Hall. "He has been calling me every day. He wished me a merry Christmas and says he's just checking in. (But) I haven't returned any, because he was such a (jerk) on the show.""

Wow, That Ilan is one wacked-out dude!
Now, it sounds like he's stalking Marcel.

Whack!


http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/.../566693449.html




Dear Lord, Ilan is out of his mind! I hope he doesn't read these boards and see I voted for him 10,000 fukkin times! I do NOT need a stalker! (had one already-they suck!)

*Ilan baby if you read this I lied about the voting thing..it was HOLSTER who did the voting for ya*

*snickers*





LOL!! OMG, I just hershey-squirted in my pants, I'm laughing so much!
I'll get you Todd for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Geez, I'll have to go into the witness protection program.
Stay away, Ilan, you FREAK!

SO frickin, f**kin FUNNY!!!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LOLZ I <3 you Holster!!!




Starts up a Wet-Nap collection for Holster incase there are anymore laugh related "shipping" issues.

; )
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Who is the person that calls Marcel Mr Mc Foamy? Thought he'd get a kick out of this:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b65/Hibb...lNeutronFGV.jpg

Posted on Ilans myspace




LOL that would be me and that would be classic.
SoonersRock
Is it Wednesday yet?

sizzler
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Just peekin in for a quickie...Andy's Blog has all kinds of questions about the time line thing...So there goes that conspiracy theory.

In the spirit of peace this was my quote of the week :

How the hell did Noel Coward know there was gonna be a show called Top Chef in the future????

Nostraf%ckingdamus he was!


Let's drink to the spirit of gallantry and courage that made a strange Heaven out of unbelievable Hell, and let's drink to the hope that one day this Top Chef board of ours, which we love so much, will find dignity and greatness and peace again.
-Noel Coward

Lets drink but when we do
Put your clippers away dude!!!

Salute'




Hey Kristl. Just watched again and this time did see Cliff's cereal. What a coinkidink THAT was! Also watch when Marcel rubs Elia's head, she just kind of half smiled/half turned her head. No real dis as far as I could tell. JMO! Funny too, when Padma "apologized" to Marcel for what happened, and he said "no apology needed from you", they flash on Sam and he gets a strange look on his face, almost a deer-in-the-headlight look. Guilt maybe??? JMO...again, take it or leave it. Still can't get over the unbelievable dish of chocolate and CHICKEN LIVER!!! Boy, that would make me barf in record time!! lol
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I think Sam is going to win (besides the fact that he is a great chef) because in the commercial, when Padma is saying "you're the top chef" she is looking waaay up.
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Who is the person that calls Marcel Mr Mc Foamy? Thought he'd get a kick out of this:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b65/Hibb...lNeutronFGV.jpg

Posted on Ilans myspace




LOL that would be me and that would be classic.




you know.. the whole virgin thing was just such a lame "insult" anyway. i know boys will be boys but if he had said somethign like, marcel doesn't get any or something I could see it. but just, your a virgin. wow, what an insult. it's stupid. and the jackin' off thing, he should have said, "oh, Ilan, you know your the only one I ever think about" now that would be funny.

as for when he was saying it in the kitchen during the challenge, I personally liked Marcel's simple, "why don't you shut the F* up!" it worked for me. It was nice to see him stand up for himself a little bit. he always takes it so well.
sizzler
I just watched the Day 9 video. I can't believe they made fun of Marcel's hair. Take a look at Ilan! That is the kind of hair do they used to do to babies...only with a little curl. Ilan, that freakie mohawk wannabe...WOW, quite the doo.
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I just watched the Day 9 video. I can't believe they made fun of Marcel's hair. Take a look at Ilan! That is the kind of hair do they used to do to babies...only with a little curl. Ilan, that freakie mohawk wannabe...WOW, quite the doo.


Yeah, to me Ilan look more like jimmy neutron than Marcel. Marcel looks more like the joker to me. I'll have to watch that video, is it one the one's on this website?
daverocks
Not replying to you just using your post

an here's another thing....if Tom C really thought everyone should be sent home for the prank, then how can he, in good concience award the prize to any of them but Marcel? If they overrode his decision and he is still willing to do it that is just weird???? If that is REALLY how he feels then I would expect him to leave the show next year.
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Don't really know a lot about the Saints.




You'll have to ask Actor about the Saints...heard they were eaten by some bears.





See that is just totally funny Holster... and yup your right I just hope the have some floss to get my team that is still stuck in their teeth out...lol




Poor Actor, maybe if you ask them nice they will speeeet them out for you. lol




I think they already did that today LOL ate us and speet us out...was a great ride while it lasted. Can't tell you how much the Saints have ment to this city...oh well atleast we are a young team we always have next year only this time we will be top seed and have the bears on our home field....I hear bear is real good in gumbo... Anyway congrats to your team!




Actor, I don't know if anyone has asked you this or not, so if this is a repeat, mea culpa.

The first time you returned to the Astrodome to see a Saints game, what was it like? How did the crowd react?

Neither my husband or I have ever been professional football fans (although we love college ball), but my husband has followed th Saints since Katrina. He really wants to see them do well. It's almost like the Saints are a metaphor for the people of New Orleans. Does that make sense?

Also, for tourists, is it still pretty much safe at night in the well-traveled areas of the Quarter? I always felt safe there, even when there alone on business. My first trip to NO I met a quartet of cops in a bar and they said that it's kind of understood amongst the criminal set in NO that, if they bother a tourist in the Quarter, they WILL go to the ER on the way to being booked.

We want to go to visit NO this year, and so am trying to figure out the lay of the land...
Lynnbo
Hi Sizzler-thought I might have a solution for your email for you. I have had sporadic problems with Outlook and Outlook express myself. If this is your problem, why not use one of the "public" emails such as yahoo or gmail. You can sign up easily, choose your own user name, then send your attachment through there and bypass your Outlook or Outlook express.

Hope this helps,

Lynnbo
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What really pisses me off about Sam(and I'd still DO him...lol)





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is he's so passive aggressive...He says to Marcel..Do you think you can help me..or will you be swamped???

Marcel says...I think I will be busy...OK..So Sam goes in the corner with Cliff and like a BIG baby says..I'm not gonna help him..THEN he says ..I'm not that guy!!!!





I totally agree. everything about the way he asked made it seem like it wasn't a big deal and he would certainly understand if marcel was going to be busy with his dish. the NERVE of some people.
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I just watched the Day 9 video. I can't believe they made fun of Marcel's hair. Take a look at Ilan! That is the kind of hair do they used to do to babies...only with a little curl. Ilan, that freakie mohawk wannabe...WOW, quite the doo.


Yeah, to me Ilan look more like jimmy neutron than Marcel. Marcel looks more like the joker to me. I'll have to watch that video, is it one the one's on this website?




Yes but Jimmy Netutron's mad scientist personal fits MC Foamy to a T.
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I understand that you think that our reaction makes light of real assaults, but that is entirely not the case. What happened to Marcel is unacceptable behavior and the kind of assaults you describe are also unacceptable. What I have a problem with is that you said:
"There was no danger"

We all saw Cliff hold Marcel down by his neck. That could easily turn into a very serious injury. Like some hockey player got punched in the neck and now he's paralyzed. Yes, Cliff did not go into this planning to hurt Marcel but it could happen. The fact that nothing more serious than rug burn and bruises happened does not change its unacceptability.




Exactly. To the victim, ALL assaults are equally real To assign realativre value is to diminish another's reality. They do it all the time in dictatorships. Minimize the small stuff so the big stuff looks even less evil.

Like those who think that stealing office supplies is not the same as embezzling 100K. They ar edifferent in amount, but exactly the same in kind. They are both theft.

it's called relative morality and a sure path to a corrupt character. let alone social chaos.





Stop the hand wringing okay?

Marcel did a interview recently with a Las Vegas newspaper in which he compares the incident to something druken frat guys do, and says he was so pissed afterward he was thinking about smashing a lamp over one of their heads.

HERE:
http://www.lasvegasweekly.com/2007/01/18/feature2.html


OBVIOUSLY some people here calling Marcel a "victim" when in reality HE DOES NOT SEE HIMSELF AS ONE, and apparently he never felt threatened at all.
As a matter of fact he said he went into his bedroom after the incident and Cliff started to horseplay even more and was throwing chocolate bars at him. That's when Marcel was like, enough of this sh*t, I'm sleeping in the bathroom.

Marcel knows it was stupid druken frat house type behavior ...why is it people here want it turned into some major crime, comparing to real assault victims??

If HE did not feel threatened or like it was an assault, why the hell are some here continuing this HYSTERICAL hyperbole?

Talk about disproportionate response.


I do not condone 'Jackass' type antics from that night, but what is MORE scary is the response from some people.






I don't think it is valid to conclude from what Marcel said in an interview months later that he felt exactly that same way on the night that the whole mess happened. I'm sure that "stupid frat prank" wasn't the first thing that came to his mind when he was being ripped from a sound sleep and attacked, placed in a headlock, and swung up off his feet by another, stronger contestant who didn't bother to explain what was going on.

Marcel has had plenty of time to compose himself, put it in perspective, and describe the whole thing in a gentlemanly manner. Yes, he's adding some more detail for our consumption. But, he's clearly not interested in digging the knife in the backs of others at this point, and I applaud him for that attitude.




Agreed. Very good assessment. Marcel was clearly upset and angry when it occurred. The fact that they continued to harass him--to the point where had to lock himself in the bathroom to keep them away--is outrageous.

Marcel's response throughout has been to be the better man/contestant and rise above it. He said that his resolve to win was actually strengthened by their harassment throughout the show. And so far he has chosen to not sue them, or return the bashing that he has received.

Although that may change if especially Ilan continues his bashing of Ilan, which he has done in recent interviews in newspapers. His obsession with Marcel is reaching the creepy stage now.

I read somewhere that Marcel said in an interview that Ilan was still calling Ilan--on a daily basis! Marcel said he hasn't returned his calls, and I think that's a good call. Especially with Ilan's frequent sexual comments to and about Marcel during the show, he really shouldn't in any way encourage Ilan's attentions.

Ilan is appearing more and more unstable. He continues to bash marcel in interviews, and then calls Marcel daily to see how he's doing, etc.? Clearly, a CYA kiss-up attempt by Ilan to keep Marcel from speaking out in interviews about his treatment from Ilan during the show. I hope it doesn't go beyond that.

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**IGNORED: WhatAJoke, brillke **

Don't really care to be involved that much. Most of this stuff is just insane but if you go out of your way to say who is ignored then isn't that a contradiction in terms? Haven't you gone out of your way to NOT ignore them?

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As I said in a previous post, I started putting the "IGNORED" on because brillke accused me of avoiding WhatAJoke's questions to me when, in fact, I had not read them because I have had him on "ignore" for a long time.

Would it help if I added, "To avoid confusion about unanswered posts..."?

Peace, love and understanding.

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IGNORED: WhatAJoke, brillke




I don't know, maybe you can call me willfully ignorant, but I just don't understand that way of thinking. I may never understand it and that's fine with me. So, ya know, do whatever feels good to you.




It certainly doesn't "feel good to me" to have two posters post responses to my posts which are nothing but attacks. Would that feel good to you?

How would you handled such a situation?

I don't know if you've read the posts from the two on ignore or not, but if that kind of attention was always directed to you from the same poster(s), wouldn't you simply ignore their posts?

As I said, I haven't read WhatAJoke's posts for awhile now, but didn't note that in a tag line because I thought he would find another target once it became clear I wasn't participating in his game.

But then Brillke also started the constant attacks, and used (as one of her excuses to attack me) that I hadn't responded to WhatAJoke's questions, indicating that I hadn't done so because of some kind or another of personal fault in my character.

So I added the IGNORE tagline. On boards that have the "IGNORE" feature, this is quite common. It prevents confusion from other posters who don't understand why you don't respond to certain posts.

I seldom put posters on IGNORE. In fact, I've only done it 2 or 3 times in the past, on boards that had the IGNORE feature. Usually I just scroll past the attacking posters (like most people scroll past trolls), but on busy boards it's easier just use the IGNORE feature, if it's available.

Anyway, that's my reasoning for a solution to a problem.

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Evening Holster!

I see your a Harry fan as well loves me some JK....have you ever gone to mugglenet.com? Really great site very informative especially love the Sinners Inn Blog on that site...Think you would be great in the conversations about the speculations of book 7 the Deathly Hollows....check it out if have not already...lol




Hey A,
Nope, never been there...I'll check it out. However, I don't have time for another obsession!! LOL.

If you like the Potter series,I think you'd like an older series that a lot of people don't know about: Ursula Le Guin's Earthsea series...starting with A Wizard of Earthsea. Excellent....



My son and I are both Potter fans...am reserving two of the new books as I don't want to wait for him to finish it before I can read it, so I will definitely be cruising over to the muggles site....and oh thank you for mentioning the LeGuin series!!!! I was absolutely delighted to find the Earth Seas series as required reading for one of his classes! Having been a sci-fi/fantasy person for over 40 years, this tickles me! Now, we return to the regularly scheduled TC disputes, that is, ummm ahhh, dialogues! *wink* :-)
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When the last Potter book came out, I poo-pooed the idea of reserving the book, picking it up at midnight, and joining a group of people who were going to read it, start to finish.




LOL....don't think my kidlet and I are going to do the midnight thing....but we do get our Barenes & Noble discounts, and will know there are books there for us when we go to pick them up. I'm too fond of sleep to go out at midnight....been years since my Rocky Horror days of midnight madness, don'cha know!
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But...but...but...it's your last chance to ever do it! LOL.

Forming reading groups for the Harry Potter book all-nighter read is a big thing in our area. It's usually the teenagers who do it, so my challenge will be to find a set of older folks to do it.

I just pray the book doesn't come out on a weekday because I don't know if I could finish it before 9:00 a.m. the next day!
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Actor, I don't know if anyone has asked you this or not, so if this is a repeat, mea culpa.





See... Mea Culpa. Its not that hard.
All you have to do is say Mea Culpa WhataJoke, I'm sorry I called you a lair. I was wrong. I did defend Marcel's Watermelon Steak by saying the name was better than Betty's TGIF dish and I did say Cliff made the clams and coconut dish and bashed him for it, even though it was Marcel's dish.

Everyone here is lobbying for peace and I'm all for it, after I get my appology.
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I want to know what it is about Marcel, himself, not the groups doing that makes you like Marcel. Is it his cooking ability, his personality, what. Disregard all the problems he has had, Speak to us about Marcel.




1) He has klept his focus on the foods and not the drama or the money.

2) He has not treated the competition like a "Survivor" show but a forum to produce great food.

3) He has not responded to mistreatment or verbal attacks in kind, with the one exception of Betty in the firehouse, and that was itself mild and he stopped when asked.

4) He has not thrown others under the bus or personal maligned them at judge'st able but brought the discussion back to the food. NOr has he retyaliated when attacked personally at the judges table.

5) He has not put down other contestants in front of their guests.

6) He has maintained a sense of humor while being bullied individually and collectively.

7) He has tried to be innovative in the face of verbal put downs.

8) He has always offered his help in the kitchen even to those who had previously abused him.

9) He has shown a passion and knowledge of food that is inspiring.

10) He has acknowledged the positive contributions and talents of the other chefs while never receiving so much as a pat on the back from the other chefs for his efforts or accomplishments.

11) He is able to laugh at himself and his weaknesses.

12) He does not hold a grudge.

I think that's a start.




Very impressive Holster...I concur!




So do I. It seems that Marcel's main fault is the inability to come up with a snappy comeback that would make others back down. For example, when Ilan made that comment about him never having had sex, Marcel could have said any number of things rather than remaining silent and containing his anger. For example,
"Look in the mirror,"
"Really? Well, you're clearly the world expert on not having sex,"
"Drop dead,"
"Har har, you're so funny I forgot to laugh,"
"Sticks and stones, you've got no cahones,"
"Time for your daily phone call home to Mommy," or
"Yeah, but at least I have a d.i.c.k."




LOL.

I agree with everyone's assessment, and I cringe to think how the others would have reacted if they had been the focus of the harassment throughout the show.

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I'm with you. When I signed on and saw all the crap attacks posted I thought, "What is wrong with these people?" I actually responded to a couple of brillke's posts then remembered Sun Tzu: "When you become like your enemy, your enemy has won."




Someday, when this crap is all over, email me if you're in a "wild hair" mood at plaguemistress@tampabay.rr.com. Like I said, and you never know, we may actually have more in common than not.

(what's so funny 'bout) Peace, love and understanding






Could be that we do have a common interest, just based on your email name. I was very interested in plagues for awhile (used to have a business that provided services for medical facilities) and really did a lot of research. I think "The Coming Plague" by Laurie Garrett is one of the best books I've ever read.
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I'm with you. When I signed on and saw all the crap attacks posted I thought, "What is wrong with these people?" I actually responded to a couple of brillke's posts then remembered Sun Tzu: "When you become like your enemy, your enemy has won."




Someday, when this crap is all over, email me if you're in a "wild hair" mood at plaguemistress@tampabay.rr.com. Like I said, and you never know, we may actually have more in common than not.

(what's so funny 'bout) Peace, love and understanding






You seem like you've been around the Bravo boards for awhile, so I have a question: When one show ends and another starts, to posters from the old show's boards carry their animosity to the new boards? Or does it just depend?

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As to the whole discussion about whether Chef Tom saw the film "as is" or already edited to change the timeline when the producers told him about the fracas, I think he saw it in its original order. You may recall that he informed the other judges that the contestants all thought it would be a fun idea to gang up on Marcel and shave his head. When I was watching the episode unfold, It sounded to me like he was just giving the short version of the whole story. However, if he saw the raw film, that was exactly the truth.

And, it begs credulity to think that the producers quickly re-cut the film to put it in a different order before showing it to Chef Tom. They were probably so shocked that exactly how to do "damage control" hadn't even occurred to them just yet. Think about it. Each person who was brought into the loop would have the same reaction. "WHAT? You're sh*tting me, right? Oh. My. God. Really? No, REALLY? WTF!! I mean, WTF!!!" Their main discussion at that point in time would have been "[censored]. What the BLEEP do we do NOW????"




Sometimes paintball guns are an attractive solution...smile.gif

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here's another wild conspiracy theory. I wonder if the winner will offer Marcel the money in apology? that'd be crazy.




There's about as much chance at that happening as there is for Betty to be asked to pose for Playboy. Given the brat pack's nasty greedy and deceptive past, the chances are beyond slim. Given Sam's begging for fan favorite votes because he's out of a job and "needs the cash" gives us some sense of their character.

But I don't think he'll need it nor would he accept it...he'll win all on his own with brilliant cooking.






I certainly hope so! I don't think they'd do it out of the kindness but b/c Bravo makes some deal with them!




Ok, even though I've read over 150 pages of this discussion, I missed that part. Since when is Sam out of a job? Was there an article or interview on that?




In one of the interviews, it stated that Sam is the ex-executive-chef of a restaurant, and in Sam's plea for votes in the FanFavorite contest he used as one of his reasons for wanting to win that he'd been out of work for 3 weeks.

The article also said that Ilan was working as a line cook.
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LMAO, yeah, JMe, going to be way too much going on here..may have to hide. Part of my point was that Cassie has just as much right to her opinion, AND that her reasoning was "possible" under certain conditions. However, one person just kept being a butthead and that is NO way to make a new poster welcome. There has been a lot of biatching about new peeps getting a lot of tude from long time posters. Who will win??? Anyones guess at this point. But Cassie has made a good point as far as I'm concerned, whether I agree or not. SOOOO, I am now stepping off my soap box...LOL





Too right....You go giiiiirl!

Here's the thing...I think you should never call a poster an idiot for what they think even though I would love to.

It is rood!!!!!

Take issue with the content.....not the poster.

Don't we all think peeps who do not agree with us are idiots??????.....lol
But calling them an idiot is just not very nice.

BTW..Has Mr JUSTME groveled for forgiveness on the hair cutting issue yet?????

I think he needs to do some serious groveling????

Maybe even buy you a nice present....Airplane tix to Hawaii would be nice:O))))

Since we are co Miss Savants of 2007..I go too!!!!

Woooooooohooooooooo

He'll be mincemeat...lol







Hey! Don't forget your favorite pussy!!!!!






Justme is going to have a lot of tickets to buy!! Kristl, Siz, Maui, Hubby, and you never know who else will want to come along. (We would NEVER forget our favorite Pussy, Maui!!)




HUBBY????????????

NOPE HE PAYS HIS OWN WAY LOL

BUT YOU CAN BRING THEM DATSUNS

THOSE TWO SOUND LIKE FUN



TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN
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It certainly doesn't "feel good to me" to have two posters post responses to my posts which are nothing but attacks. Would that feel good to you?

How would you handled such a situation?

I don't know if you've read the posts from the two on ignore or not, but if that kind of attention was always directed to you from the same poster(s), wouldn't you simply ignore their posts?

As I said, I haven't read WhatAJoke's posts for awhile now, but didn't note that in a tag line because I thought he would find another target once it became clear I wasn't participating in his game.

But then Brillke also started the constant attacks, and used (as one of her excuses to attack me) that I hadn't responded to WhatAJoke's questions, indicating that I hadn't done so because of some kind or another of personal fault in my character.

So I added the IGNORE tagline. On boards that have the "IGNORE" feature, this is quite common. It prevents confusion from other posters who don't understand why you don't respond to certain posts.

I seldom put posters on IGNORE. In fact, I've only done it 2 or 3 times in the past, on boards that had the IGNORE feature. Usually I just scroll past the attacking posters (like most people scroll past trolls), but on busy boards it's easier just use the IGNORE feature, if it's available.

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Um Amazon why do you continue to pretend that the fact that you called me a liar and were wrong somehow doesn't apply.

brillke also pointed out that you called me a liar and were wrong. So you decided to "ignore" her as well.

And after going though all the old posts of our back and forth you seem to have no problem responding to me or brillke ad nausium until the topic of you calling me a liar and being proven wrong came up. Interesting.

So it seems that you choose to ignore us not because we "attacked" you but because we proved you 100% wrong.
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WELL SIZ I THINK IT'S A HALO
THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID IT WAS .....GRIN
HMMMMMMMMMMM
NOW THAT I LOOK AT IT
IT MIGHT JUST BE A LOONEY JACKET RESTRAINT

TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN




Yeah, its a halo...just a little bit tarnished. Probably cause of the porn!! LOL And, I hear those jackets that tie in the back are VERY uncomfortable.




HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

HALO

PORN

HALO

PORN

IF THAT'S THE CASE

SCREW THE HALO ;D

PORN IS MUCH MORE ENLIGHTENING .........biggrin.gif

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

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As long as nobody tries to make "devils advocate soup" with my tail....KRISTL!!





Someone already made chicken lo mein with mine!





Nobody is safe around here anymore! Too many foodies willing to try new recipes, at OUR expence!! lol




YOU SHOULD TALK SIZ

YOU BE CARRYIN THE KABOB POKER

DANG!!!!!!!

THAT POINT IS SHARP

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

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Where's my pic woman???

Gotta get my kitty buns to bed... work early 2marrow... yuk. I'm still 20 dam pages behind on here, but with the way things are playing out, not so sure I care. May just say screw it til Wed's epi.






WELL, here is the problem. I have some pics on my puter, but every time I try to send it, it either uses my OLD email address or won't let me add it to one with my NEW email address. Any suggestions...anyone, anyone, Buler, Buler..




WELL SIZ ASKED SOMEONE FOR A BIT OF INFO ON THE SUBJECT

I THINK IT WAS ACTOR THAT PUT THE SITE UP EARLIER

IT'S CALLED PHOTO BUCKET

MY ASSIST SAID YOU HAVE TO JOIN TO GAIN ACCESS

I THINK IT'S FREE

ONCE YOU DO IT IT ALLOWS YOU TO POST ANY PIC YOU MIGHT HAVE ON YOUR PC

TO AN ACCESSABLE PAGE

YOU MAY HAVE TO CONVERT TO JPEG

SHOULD BE EASY ENOUGH

MOST PHOTOSHOP PROGRAMS HAVE THAT

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

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Where's my pic woman???

Gotta get my kitty buns to bed... work early 2marrow... yuk. I'm still 20 dam pages behind on here, but with the way things are playing out, not so sure I care. May just say screw it til Wed's epi.






WELL, here is the problem. I have some pics on my puter, but every time I try to send it, it either uses my OLD email address or won't let me add it to one with my NEW email address. Any suggestions...anyone, anyone, Buler, Buler..




OH

THAT OTHER POST.......

THAT'S IF YOU WANT ALOT OF PEEPS TO SEE

OTHER THAN THAT

YOU CAN CUT AND PASTE TO YOUR WORD

CREATE A FILE AND SEND IT TO MC

PRIVATELY

BY ATTACHING IT TO AN EMAIL

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

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ok, folks, hold onto your peppermills...Ilan and Marcel are best buds...

http://starbulletin.com/2007/01/21/feature...es/story01.html




I found this part really interesting...

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Hall took a more lackadaisical approach.

"It was my plan to come back with recipes, but I thought about it and wondered if it was too much," said Hall. "I wondered what to expect and I was wondering if I was prepared enough, but it's not something you can prepare for. I brought a couple of knives and that was it."

For Vigneron, a down-to-earth, cheerful sort off-screen, being the designated outcast during taping was something he accepted as part of the reality TV journey. But the discord between Vigneron and most of his castmates came as a surprise to those who work in the kitchen with him at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

"The majority of my co-workers couldn't believe it and they respect me and didn't understand where the castmates were coming from," he said. "I think it bothered the other people in the house that I didn't let it get under my skin. Most didn't have the courage to say anything directly to me."

But, what's done is done. "We're all good friends now that the show is over," said Hall. "I keep in touch with a lot of people ... Marcel and I talk a lot."

Wong is guarded about his experiences as a judge -- the producers are leery of revealing any surprises -- but he did say he is a fan of the show and has been watching since the first season.

"As a professional you try to figure out who is going to make it," he said -- and he did agree in many cases with which contestants were bounced off.

"Somebody got let go because of dishonesty, somebody got let go because of bad attitude, somebody got let go because of not using salt and pepper and not tasting the food before serving it ..."

The same thing would happen in his own restaurant, Wong said. "If somebody's dishonest with me, they're gone. If somebody's got a bad attitude with me, they're gone. ...

"Yeah, this is justice. It gave the show credibility."






Not only that but now Tom's a mentor?? Yarite!

"The heat is on as the Bravo cable contest "Top Chef" winds down at the Hilton Waikoloa Village. Above, finalist Ilan Hall consults with mentor and judge Tom Colicchio of Gramercy Tavern in New York City."






1) Ilan says in this article (dated 01/21/2007) that hhe and Marcel are friends and talk a lot on the phone. Marcel said in an interview (don't remember the date but will try to find the article) that Ilan has been calling him daily and that Marcel hasn't returned his calls because Hall was such an ass during the show's season.

2) They went to Waipio Valley! It is surreally beautiful (lots of Hawaiian songs about Waipio Valley) but, man, the drive down there is something else. I'm not fond of heights but really wanted to go, so my daughter's boyfriend at the time had me ride in the back of his pickup truck, with the tailgate open, the idea being that if he started to go off a cliff I could just hop out. You have to drive very slowly down the road and you just pray you don't meet anyone coming the opposite direction. The last time I was there was 3 or 4 years ago, and I doubt they've upgraded the road. The reason Waipio is so wonderful is that most people don't want to risk the drive down and up.

3) Chef Wong clearly states that dishonesty and a bad attitude are reasons to send a chef packing. Too bad they didn't ask him about what he would have done if a group of his staff harassed and then assaulted another member of the staff.

4) Note the difference in how Marcel and Ilan prepared for the trip. JMO, but I think Marcel's approach was more professional, and really honored Hawaii and its traditions.

5) I'm betting that the CrackPack and Betty really calmed down during the 3-month hiatus and especially during their time in Hawaii. In my experience, the energy in Hawaii is so incredible that it would be difficult to harbor that kind of nastiness, especially after being to Waipio Valley.

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ok, folks, hold onto your peppermills...Ilan and Marcel are best buds...

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Not only that but now Tom's a mentor?? Yarite!

"The heat is on as the Bravo cable contest "Top Chef" winds down at the Hilton Waikoloa Village. Above, finalist Ilan Hall consults with mentor and judge Tom Colicchio of Gramercy Tavern in New York City."






I don't think Marcel and ilan are actually friends either lol

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/.../566693449.html




OMG. They held the cook-off at Waikaloa Village? It's a beautiful resort but it is hotter than hell there. They actually provide motorized carts to their guests to use to travel around the resort.

Well, at least the rooms (and everything else!) is air-conditioned there...but I did see in one of the previews that they have to cook outside! So typical for this season...

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ok, folks, hold onto your peppermills...Ilan and Marcel are best buds...

http://starbulletin.com/2007/01/21/feature...es/story01.html




Yah, right, they're best buds according to Ilan. That's like Cliff saying that Marcel is just like a little brother to him. It's just damage control.

You don't really think they'd suddenly be all kissy and friendly toward him, do you? Unless, of course, they are selfishly trying to rebuild the public's perception of themselves.

Fat chance, chefs. We now know you guys for the scheming, baiting, competitive, inconsiderate, bullies that you are. Marcel looks like a veritable choir boy next to you guys.




I don't know about "choir boy," but IMO he is the most professional of those left standing.

And isn't it strange that they brought back Betty? Of all freaking people? And this is after the assault on Marcel, too.

And the producers and judges say they are outraged/shocked/appalled by the behavior of the CrackPack....

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I know it is hard to stay away from all of this witty musings of crazy board buddies! BUT, for you, it may be necessary to let it rest for a while so your eyes will quit hurting. Besides, Wednesday will be here before you know it and THEN you will need to have your peepers all rested for the next big fight! LOL At least try to rest them some of the time. We will all still be here when you feel better!




SORTA

DON'T THINK I PARTICIPATED IN A BOARD

IN A LONG TIME

WAS OK IN THE BEGINNING

BUT SINCE LAST FRIDAY

STARTED TO NOTICE THE IRRITATION

USE PUTERS DAILY

HAS NEVER HAD THIS AFFECT

SHRUG

MAYBE AGE IS A FACTOR AS WELL

ANYHOO

GOT SOME STUFF TO SOOTH THE BURNING

AND YUP WILL HAVE TO TAKE IT EASIER



TAKE CARE OVER THERE

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ok, folks, hold onto your peppermills...Ilan and Marcel are best buds...

http://starbulletin.com/2007/01/21/feature...es/story01.html






Not only that but now Tom's a mentor?? Yarite!

"The heat is on as the Bravo cable contest "Top Chef" winds down at the Hilton Waikoloa Village. Above, finalist Ilan Hall consults with mentor and judge Tom Colicchio of Gramercy Tavern in New York City."






I don't think Marcel and ilan are actually friends either lol

http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/.../566693449.html




Here's the article I was posting about! And it's dated 01/21/2007, the same date as the one where Ilan said him and Marcel are friends and talk all the time on the phone.

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So do I. It seems that Marcel's main fault is the inability to come up with a snappy comeback that would make others back down. For example, when Ilan made that comment about him never having had sex, Marcel could have said any number of things rather than remaining silent and containing his anger. For example,
"Look in the mirror,"
"Really? Well, you're clearly the world expert on not having sex,"
"Drop dead,"
"Har har, you're so funny I forgot to laugh,"
"Sticks and stones, you've got no cahones,"
"Time for your daily phone call home to Mommy," or
"Yeah, but at least I have a d.i.c.k."





Or, "Blow-up dolls don't count."






OMG. I had tears running down my face!




So did the doll!




ROFLMAO!!!! You're bad...

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