damselfly
January 24, 2007 - 10:08 AM
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I think the weirdest thing for me is that Ilan went from being one of the cooler chefs...kinda laid back and into his food and doing his best ...to like the biggest jerk ever in 1 episode....people were thinking so highly of him and WHAM...he comes out with this attitude...
Was wondering about that myself. Only thing I can think of is that he was being labled a big GEEK, was that way in high school too. Wanted to be in the COOL crowd this time so tipped over the "line of sanity" and joined the CrackPot Crew. Unfortunately, he and Elia both look like they are TRUELY crazy...not just acting. And the constant calling to Marcel from Ilan...that sh!t is just scary!!!
You know I never joined a sorority in college and really didn't go the greek parties because group think and pressure always scared me...how quickly it can get out of control. You know everyone is getting down on Elia...and I'm not about to take sides...but as the only female in that group of most large men...it might have been a tough room to stand up to...just a thought...
Could be, give her the benefit of the doubt on that, MAYBE. But she did stick up for him before. I don't think she has much of a backbone. Has probably never had any kind of confrontation with anyone of this magnitude. BUT, that pix of her with the googlie, crazy eyes.....SH!T!!! That pix can give nightmares!
OMG...she looks like someone messed with the picture...very alien!
Disturbing!
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January 24, 2007 - 10:10 AM
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GOOD NIGHT ALL!! I'm beat so going to snuggle with Hubby and the baby. (Can't say doggie, JMe gets upset...they are the babies) lol
Play nice everyone
DANG TOOTIN
THEM IS BABIES
GNITE SIZ
MISSED EVERYBODY AGAIN TONIGHT
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
Still doing the interview stuff...takes its toll and makes me tired...long process for county jobs, test first then two interviews (if you are lucky) yestday ws second for this job. Should find out by the end of the week. Thought it went pretty well, but you just never know..5 peeps for 3 jobs..always someone younger and smarter so....ya know what I mean jelly bean?? (O:
Well good Luck Siz anyway sometimes experience wins out!
WELL YOU GOTTA STOP TOTIN THEM ATOM BOMBS
CARRY ONE OF THEM "BIG STICKS" INSTEAD
PHOTO'S MIGHT HELP
HINT HINT
GOOD LUCK SIZ
I left my A-Bomb in the truck....just in case. Will find out by the end of the week if it detonated itself. LOL
YOU LEFT YOUR TRUCK??????
DANG I WOULD HAVE JUST LEFT THE BOMB
YOU TERRORIST
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
LOL no silly, left the A-Bomb IN the truck...had to get home somehow...50 miles way too far to walk
Holster
January 24, 2007 - 10:11 AM
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here's a look at how "real" reality tv really is...
http://www.writerswrite.com/wblog.php?wblog=808061
Exactly so why make up a story about them getting drunk, shaving their heads and then trying to shave Marcel's head for a joke if it didn't happen that way? What's the point?
If you are going to say, "to make the others look better" then why not make the entire sordid affair dissappear? Much easier to leave the entire thing out and have Cliff get eliminated at the judges table.
Well, i suppose the next two espisodes will expain it. They are telling a story after all. Does it all lead up to Marcel's tragic fall from grace or his triumph over adversity? if they had shown them first assaulting Marcel out of the blue and then continuing on in their childishness, they would gain no sympathy whatsoever, esp Elia, who perhaps is the meanest of all, mocking Marcel after the assault.
but there is no way in heck they are going to throw that incident out...after all, it IS compelling tv and a huge ratings booster...which is exactly what it did.
Sad that their view is so shortsighhted as they have alienated so many viewers.
JUSTMEAOD
January 24, 2007 - 10:13 AM
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Godda go do my Miss Savant 2007 duties for the day..I'm gonna be at the grand opening of Marcels new hair salon.
Foam dela Mousse.....House of Mousse and Foam
We whip up your hair like a batch of mashed taters...lol
Hey after this show he may very well have his own line of products!!!!
But NO clippers!!!!
As the most forgiving of the Miss Savant award, you are forgiven for the slight! HOWEVER, yes, I DID sleep my way to the top...not my fault you keep gathering all the gays for your posse...HELLO!!! do you not realize that you ain't their type!!!!! lol
If you want to sleep your way, Baby youse got to have a little different demographic posse.
Good luck at Marcel's Grand Opening...I heard that there was going to be a floor show, staring Sam, Ilan and Elia. Doing the musical "HAIRless" Have fun, but Kristl.....wear a hat...a real tight hat.
ROFLMBUMO!!!
YOMANK!!!!!
Ahhhh Hairless..Now THAT was good!!!!
Oh my....That..means they will be nude for a portion of the act.lets hope we get a stiff wind and things are not easy....I hope things are really HARD for them..lol
I need a place to hang my scissors!
Concidering you are gathering gays, just what parts would you like hard???? Peepees and nips??? OR, just one or the other...remember, Elia is going to be there .....oh yeah, you are bi-curious, so I guess it will ALL work for you. However, you will probably have to fight Ilan for Sam, you know how obsessed he is with him...when Cliff was holding down Marcel, Ilan was screaming, "Sam Sam...cum on Sam" everyone thought is was to get Marcel. But due to excellent editing, he was ACTUALLY doin' the nasty with Sam while holding the camera on Cliff and Marcel. THAT is why Elia was all hunched over...jealousy!!!
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM
AND WHO'S THE PORN WRITER NOW EH SIZ
GOOD MORNING LADIES???
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
GOOD MORNING JMe. Glad to see you here. Sorry about stepping on your toes with the porn...but couldn't pass that one up. If you want, can give you co-author on it. lol
YUP
YOU BETTER WATCH WHERE YOU STEP LITTLE LADY
WHO DID YOU INHERIT THEM FEET FROM?????
AND NAH
DON'T NEED NO STINKIN TITLES;)
DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO ME ANYWAY
SO YOU DROP ANY BOMBS AT THAT INTERVIEW???
AND WHERES MY PIC????
JUST KIDDING
NOT REALLY WANT ONE
I LIKE THE ONE IN MY MIND
DON'T WORRY IT'S CLEAN
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
Think I got my big feet from my Daddy, hope your toes are OK. (O:
Interview SEEMED to go ok. But, you never know. Sometimes I think it depends on how good of mood the interviewER is in when the interviewEE is having their interVIEW. They were having a lot of computer issues at the time, so hope she wasn't too distracted.
Will keep my finners crossed though. Nice small office, and I like that. Will keep you posted.
WEEEEEEEEEELLLLLL
NO DAMAGE TO THE TOES
HAVE STEEL TIPPED SHOES ON
YOU KNOW OSHA AND ALL
AND IF YOU WILL
A ONE ARMED CYBER HUG
FOR GOOD LUCK
FROM ROBO SECURITY
SIZZZZZZZ))))))))))))
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
sizzler
January 24, 2007 - 10:13 AM
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Thanks for the link, I just read it. Feh.
Hey RSH...I must ask...Do you have the rock star hair????
I keep thinking of the guy who won Rock Star Super Nova every time i see your name..Now HE had some pretty rock star hair!!!
Sigh...I love rock stars..my ex was a wanna be rock star....Not really He deplored the "biz" buit he sure was sexy and he sure could play like a muth af&cka and sing too.
I'llsend you a song Siz.he is/was really good.
I was his bigest fan.....sob!!
Too bad he went crazy on me.
I'm gonna post a pic of him.
Can't wait to hear it. Don't cry little Kristl...even though some of the peeps on this board are "borderline crazy" we will try not to go all the way over the edge...K?
Rockers are the heartbreakers...we truely believe what they write in their songs and then they aren't anything like that in rl....sucks bad!
Me, not much of a rocker fan, but Country Music???? There are a few there I would spend a lot of time with..LOL
There is something about a cowboy...that untamable male....hmmmm...
OH YEAH!! Like the licence plate says...Wrangler Butts Drive Me Nuts!! YEE HAW..saddle up cowboy!! (Keep this up and I'll need another shower...George Strait, Toby Keith, Sam Elliott(not a singer, but does look good in Wranglers) sigh......I tired now. Need a nap...and a smoke. lol
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January 24, 2007 - 10:14 AM
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Hee, hee, now I'm "snarkgirl."
I'd run with it.
Now because I am an eeeeeeeeeediot, how do you all know Sammie is out of a job?
He wrote a personal email to IronChef stating that he was out of a job, low on cash and could use the fan favorite 10K.
L.O.S.E.R.
:::Grits teeth and bares back in prep for upcoming coalraking:::
I'm gonna have to change my name to I'mThatGirl or something.
Don't worry, IC...they are all making the "fan" rounds because they are trying to cover there a$$e$! He's talked to our blog and it seems everyone that will listen!
You aren't a bad person...you just trusted a bad person...ha...lol!
:::sigh::: It's really no use.
damselfly
January 24, 2007 - 10:14 AM
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I don't know have they or was that sarcasm? Every interveiw I've read is the chefs daying that they weren't showing the real annoying parts of Marcel.
Yes Stephen was more annoying IMO...I'm just not getting this gross waste of time on hating Marcel...Doesn't anyone really want to win?
I KNOW.......It's like every little thing....Like they are starved for some hostility and drama.. Well...Mikey said he wasn't that bad...Cliff said it and so did Carlos.....Lee Anne says it ...No not Sam or Ilan.......How could they now??
I think once you come from the perspective of him being younger..and not agewise...he really has endearing qualities...I KNOW...someone is going to smash me for saying. But how can you watch him on the roof rapping and then think of doing him physical harm...maybe because I'm a mom of a boy I am able to see people in their growth process but...Marcel is just immature in certain ways...we all hae those issues...some people just pray in other's weaknesses...
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January 24, 2007 - 10:15 AM
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Easy buddy, you may not like Ilan (obviously) but he's got a long way to go before he shoots someone in the face.
Thats pretty weak.
You're being too literal. The sense was that Amy Fisher brought disgrace to Long Island. Some one you wouldn't be proud to mention as being a fellow resident. Not that Ilan is a gun-toting jealous girl.
Ok I see your point, but most people are going to see that comparison and coupel it with all the "Ilan the stalker" garbage that has been posted here and put two and two togeahter.
As far as disgracing Long Island, thats a bit of a stretch. I don't know how anyone takes one person on a reality TV show and draws a conclusion about an entire reagon of a state unless there is a pre-exsisting stigma that being re-enforced.
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January 24, 2007 - 10:15 AM
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DISCUSTING!!! (already finish 4 cup o' joe so keyboard is safe) "And he has joined his competitors in turning against Marcel...." WHATEVER!! that little geek was one of the FIRST ones to bash Marcel...all over the knife incident when they first got to LA. Mommy seems to be doing a good job for her widdle Ilan. Good thing, cause most of the rest of the world think he's an ASS!!
You sure do find some interesting articles Holster. Good job!
Shows how corrupt and/or stupid journalists have become.
No wonder Ilan is showing up in all sorts of news outlets...Mommy works in the biz.
Spin spin, spin.
Ain't going to wash though.
Only ones buying it are the ones in his home town, cause the rest of the world knows what a deeeeeeeck he really is.
NOT
I'M THE DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
THAT SLAPPED ILANS HAIR RIGHT OFF HIS HEAD
MADE FUN OF MARCEL
PUT THE KNIVES AROUND HIM WHILE HE SLEPT
WATCHED ILAN GIVE ELIA THAT SMILE OF SATISFACTION
GLARED AT GAIL
HID TOM'S CLOTHES BEFORE HE WENT TO THE BEACH
PUT CHER'S OLD JACKET IN PADMA'S WARDROBE
BOGARTED THAT DOOB
LEFT AN OLIVE PIT ON SEVEN TABLES
TOLD MIKEY TO DROP THE PORK CHOP IN THE WATER AND NOT SAY ANYTHING
BURNED THE BACON
TOLD CLIFF BEING ROOOD WAS COOL
TOOK 25 BUCKS FROM MIKEY FROM THE STORE TO THE JUDGES TABLE
KILLED THE RAT ON MARCELS BACK
NOW ALL I'M WAITING FOR IS TO FIND THE DANG
CLIPPERS SO I CAN GET ME SOME SPIDER LEGS
OH AND I'M SHY
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
Woosh! Are ya tired yet??? If not, you should be. LOL You been pretty busy!
THAT'S NOT THE HALF OF IT SIZ
HAD TO DEFUSE A BOMB LEFT IN A TRUCK
FOUND EVIDENCE TOO
TINY SAUSAGE PRINTS [8
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
ROTFLMAO...excellent JMe...giggle giggle...don't rat out the babies...they're just babies...no prison time for them.
Holster
January 24, 2007 - 10:17 AM
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IC,
Is your boss not letting you go to your grandmother's at all?
Is she better?
damselfly
January 24, 2007 - 10:17 AM
My dishnetwork is down....it probably wont' be up by tonight. I'm so thoroughly disappointed that I am not going to get to see this show when it airs. though, I'm not sure why. I know I don't want any of those guys to win and I don't want marcel to win by default but I'm still interested! darn bravo!!!!
Probably because with the way Bravo is going if you want to see anything near the truth you have to watch it when it initially airs...because by the 1st rerun they may have edited it...
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January 24, 2007 - 10:18 AM
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I just watched the Day 9 video. I can't believe they made fun of Marcel's hair. Take a look at Ilan! That is the kind of hair do they used to do to babies...only with a little curl. Ilan, that freakie mohawk wannabe...WOW, quite the doo.
I've never really gotten the Marcel-hair thing, either. It carried over onto the boards, too.
Ilan's hairstyle was what that dude on the Blowout show wore (or used to wear). I've seen lots of guys wear it.
I like people who think outside of the box, and who aren't afraid to do something nobody else is. I think Marcel's hairstyle is original, although it does remind me of Tom Waits (whom I adore).
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IGNORED: WhatAJoke, brillke
AWWWWWWWWW CUMMON AMAZON???
REALLY?????
TOM DOESN'T WEAR HIS HAIR LIKE THAT AT ALL LOL
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
oh my, I do love Tom W myself. Down by Law is one of my favorites. talk about great hair!
TO BE HONEST I DON'T KNOW TOM WELL
COULDN'T LOCATE DOWN BY LAW
BUT HERE I ONE I COULD
Smelling like a brewery, looking like a tramp,
I ain't got a quarter, got a postage stamp
Been five o'clock shadow boxing all around the town,
Talking with the old man, sleeping on the ground
Bazanti bootin al zootin al hoot and Al Cohn
Sharing this apartment with a telephone pole
And a fish-net stocking, spike-heel shoes,
Strip tease, [expletive deleted] tease, car keys blues
And the porno floor show, live nude girls,
Dreamy and creamy and brunette curls
Chesty Morgan and Watermelon Rose
Raise my rent and take off all your clothes
With trench coats, magazines, a bottle full of rum,
She's so good, make a dead man come
Pasties and a G-string, beer and a shot
Portland through a shot glass and a Buffalo squeeze
Wrinkles and Cherry and Twinkie and Pinkie and Fifi live from Gay Paree
Fanfares, rim shots, back stage, who cares, all this hot burlesque for me
(scat)
Cleavage, cleavage, thighs and hips
]From the nape of her neck to the lipstick lips
Chopped and channeled and lowered and lewd
And the cheater slicks and baby moons
She's a-hot and ready, creamy and sugared
And the band is awful and so are the tunes
(scat)
Crawling on her belly, and shaking like jelly,
And I'm getting harder than Chinese algebrassieres
And cheers from the (hmm) compendium here
'Hey sweetheart' they're yelling for more
You're squashing out your cigarette butts on the floor
And I like Shelly, and you like Jane
And what was the girl with the snakeskin's name?
And it's an early-bird matinee, come back any day,
Get you a little something that you can't get at home
Get you a little something that you can't get at home
It's pasties and a G-string, beer and a shot
Portland through a shot glass and a Buffalo squeeze
Popcorn, front row, higher than a kite, and I'll be back tomorrow night,
And I'll be back tomorrow night
(scat)
TAKE CARE OVER THEREE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
I used to have that CD but it was in a whole bunch that got stolen:( now I only have mule variations. Down by Law is a movie. he and two other guys get thrown in jail and decide to break out. it's....oh shoot what's his name...Jaramusch. Roberto Benini and his wife are both in it too.
REALIZED THAT DR
AFTER READING A FEW MORE POSTS
NEVER SAW THAT FLICK
THUS MY INGNORANCE OF THE TITLE
DON'T FOLLOW CELEBS TOO MUCH
NOT MY THING
SORRY FOR SOUNDING A BIT NEG
BUT I REALLY DON'T FOLLOW OTHERS CAREERS
UNLESS I KNOW THEM
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
damselfly
January 24, 2007 - 10:20 AM
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Thanks for the link, I just read it. Feh.
Hey RSH...I must ask...Do you have the rock star hair????
I keep thinking of the guy who won Rock Star Super Nova every time i see your name..Now HE had some pretty rock star hair!!!
Sigh...I love rock stars..my ex was a wanna be rock star....Not really He deplored the "biz" buit he sure was sexy and he sure could play like a muth af&cka and sing too.
I'llsend you a song Siz.he is/was really good.
I was his bigest fan.....sob!!
Too bad he went crazy on me.
I'm gonna post a pic of him.
Can't wait to hear it. Don't cry little Kristl...even though some of the peeps on this board are "borderline crazy" we will try not to go all the way over the edge...K?
Rockers are the heartbreakers...we truely believe what they write in their songs and then they aren't anything like that in rl....sucks bad!
Me, not much of a rocker fan, but Country Music???? There are a few there I would spend a lot of time with..LOL
There is something about a cowboy...that untamable male....hmmmm...
OH YEAH!! Like the licence plate says...Wrangler Butts Drive Me Nuts!! YEE HAW..saddle up cowboy!! (Keep this up and I'll need another shower...George Strait, Toby Keith, Sam Elliott(not a singer, but does look good in Wranglers) sigh......I tired now. Need a nap...and a smoke. lol
NBCSport had the bullriders on two weeks ago...I needed to lay down after that was over. I think tha why I feel for my hubby...he shoes horse for a living and wears wranglers to work in...and you know when they're shoing they're leaning over....hmmmm...I love to take him lunch!!
Holster
January 24, 2007 - 10:21 AM
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Ok I see your point, but most people are going to see that comparison and coupel it with all the "Ilan the stalker" garbage that has been posted here and put two and two togeahter.
As far as disgracing Long Island, thats a bit of a stretch. I don't know how anyone takes one person on a reality TV show and draws a conclusion about an entire reagon of a state unless there is a pre-exsisting stigma that being re-enforced.
Well, he is stalking marcel, isn't he? i mean Ilan says in an interview that he still talks to Marcel and in another interview, Marcel says Ilan's been leaving all these messages that Marcel doesn't return because of the way Ilan treated him.
Isn't that a form of stalking...persistent unwanted attention?
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January 24, 2007 - 10:21 AM
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Thanks for the link, I just read it. Feh.
Hey RSH...I must ask...Do you have the rock star hair????
I keep thinking of the guy who won Rock Star Super Nova every time i see your name..Now HE had some pretty rock star hair!!!
Sigh...I love rock stars..my ex was a wanna be rock star....Not really He deplored the "biz" buit he sure was sexy and he sure could play like a muth af&cka and sing too.
I'llsend you a song Siz.he is/was really good.
I was his bigest fan.....sob!!
Too bad he went crazy on me.
I'm gonna post a pic of him.
Can't wait to hear it. Don't cry little Kristl...even though some of the peeps on this board are "borderline crazy" we will try not to go all the way over the edge...K?
OOOOK
SINCE NO SYMPATHY IS TO BE GIVEN
HOW ABOUT THIS
SNAP OUT OF IT KRISTI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT'S HISTORY
NOW GET THAT HAT AND GET YOUR BUTT OVER TO
NASHVILLE
HOW'S THAT ????????
TOO HARSH?????
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
LOL, nope. Just the right amount of "get off your arse and quit crying" and "I feel for ya Babe, but....get off your arse and quit crying" (O:
YOU KNOW SIZ
FUNNY THING IF YOU COMPARE THAT NS TO TC
I DON'T HAVE A FAV THERE YET
BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL SO DANG GOOD
WRITE THIER OWN SONGS, PLAY THIER OWN INSTRUMENTS. LOTS OF TALENT
FROM EP TWO OF TC
NOTHING, ZERO, NO TALENT, NO SKILL, BAD ATTITUDES
DO WISH NS HAD THE JUDGES MAKE THE DECISIONS
UP TO THE LAST THREE
NEVER BEEN TO THIER BOARDS
BUT IT MUST SUCK
SAY IF YOU HATED ME AND I HAD A FAVORITE
BANG
DOWN THE ROAD
I WOULD SAY THAT'S THE ONLY PLUS TC HAS THIS SEASON
CAN'T IMAGINE WHO WOULD STILL BE THERE IF IT WERE UP TO THE VIEWERS
JMO
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
I agree. Even though the audience makes the cuts on NS, just getting there shows a LOT of talent. They are judged by professionals to get there, or so I think. Here, on TC, they are judged by producers to get on the show, or so I think. There fore, they are more judged on what they can DO for the show to make it a hit, not how talented they are. Too bad they can't take a hint from USA/NS.
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January 24, 2007 - 10:22 AM
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I was his bigest fan.....sob!!
Too bad he went crazy on me.
I'm gonna post a pic of him.
Speaking of rock star hair, do you remember Gino Vanelli?
..."Brother to Brother"...
wonder what happened to him...we actually saw him in concert in Chicago in the 70s
LOL..GINO!!!!! I had a crush on him!!!
Here's my rockstar..Driving cross country and he was mad at the peeps driving...lol.....He was the WORST driver ..Too careful....He was very good but thought everyone was out to get him....Oy the fights!!!
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums
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He has the SEXIEST bod.....Sob!!!!
NICE! Looks kind of angry. Was he??? Be nice to see more than an arm...hint hint
NAH THATS ME
12 YRS AGO
REALLY ANGRY
KINDA GLAD I GOT THE ARM
SOME OTHER STUFF TOO
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
You goofball!! lmao
YUP GOT THEM
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
JUSTMEAOD
January 24, 2007 - 10:24 AM
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I don't know have they or was that sarcasm? Every interveiw I've read is the chefs daying that they weren't showing the real annoying parts of Marcel.
Yes Stephen was more annoying IMO...I'm just not getting this gross waste of time on hating Marcel...Doesn't anyone really want to win?
I KNOW.......It's like every little thing....Like they are starved for some hostility and drama.. Well...Mikey said he wasn't that bad...Cliff said it and so did Carlos.....Lee Anne says it ...No not Sam or Ilan.......How could they now??
THEY WANT THE MONEY
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
sizzler
January 24, 2007 - 10:24 AM
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I think the weirdest thing for me is that Ilan went from being one of the cooler chefs...kinda laid back and into his food and doing his best ...to like the biggest jerk ever in 1 episode....people were thinking so highly of him and WHAM...he comes out with this attitude...
Was wondering about that myself. Only thing I can think of is that he was being labled a big GEEK, was that way in high school too. Wanted to be in the COOL crowd this time so tipped over the "line of sanity" and joined the CrackPot Crew. Unfortunately, he and Elia both look like they are TRUELY crazy...not just acting. And the constant calling to Marcel from Ilan...that sh!t is just scary!!!
You know I never joined a sorority in college and really didn't go the greek parties because group think and pressure always scared me...how quickly it can get out of control. You know everyone is getting down on Elia...and I'm not about to take sides...but as the only female in that group of most large men...it might have been a tough room to stand up to...just a thought...
Could be, give her the benefit of the doubt on that, MAYBE. But she did stick up for him before. I don't think she has much of a backbone. Has probably never had any kind of confrontation with anyone of this magnitude. BUT, that pix of her with the googlie, crazy eyes.....SH!T!!! That pix can give nightmares!
OMG...she looks like someone messed with the picture...very alien!
Disturbing!
Actually, I think she hit that pose for a mili-second, but when you freeze frame it....YIKES!!
daverocks
January 24, 2007 - 10:24 AM
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Sears ad?????
http://www.amny.com/entertainment/dining/n...0,2664110.story
No, This is a puff piece on Ilan in a New York paper (his Mom works for Newsday)...
He is praised for his "stability." I kid you not. It's funny in the way Sandra Lee is funny...so bad, you gotta laugh.
Does the link work?
my two fav parts of this peice are :
"has clearly stood out as one of the more friendly, creative and provocative personalities on the show"
and of course:
And he has joined his competitors in turning against Marcel
JOINED! Ilan was like...the first. he made fun of him the very first day with the knife issue.
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January 24, 2007 - 10:25 AM
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here's a look at how "real" reality tv really is...
http://www.writerswrite.com/wblog.php?wblog=808061
Exactly so why make up a story about them getting drunk, shaving their heads and then trying to shave Marcel's head for a joke if it didn't happen that way? What's the point?
If you are going to say, "to make the others look better" then why not make the entire sordid affair dissappear? Much easier to leave the entire thing out and have Cliff get eliminated at the judges table.
Well, i suppose the next two espisodes will expain it. They are telling a story after all. Does it all lead up to Marcel's tragic fall from grace or his triumph over adversity? if they had shown them first assaulting Marcel out of the blue and then continuing on in their childishness, they would gain no sympathy whatsoever, esp Elia, who perhaps is the meanest of all, mocking Marcel after the assault.
but there is no way in heck they are going to throw that incident out...after all, it IS compelling tv and a huge ratings booster...which is exactly what it did.
Sad that their view is so shortsighhted as they have alienated so many viewers.
I don't buy it. They would have had to make up the story and then get everyone including Marcel to stick to it and for what? So the others come off looking like drunken a-Holes instead of childish a-holes? The risk vs. reward ratio is off here. You risk having the entire show (and all the other Bravo reality shows) being exposed for having stage managed drama, and you gain virtually nothing in the gamble.
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January 24, 2007 - 10:26 AM
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You aren't a bad person...you just trusted a bad person...ha...lol!
:::sigh::: It's really no use.
First of all Lia.How is your grandmotehr?????
Hope all is ok!!
Secondly...Please..You root for whoever you want..I know how hard it is to see all this when you like someone..I do.
So don't mind us....No one is gonna atack you for rooting for anyone..How dumb would that be??? If they do....we have security now...lol
Justme is aimed and ready!
I was only kidding IC...you can like Sam...it's ok...really...he's still hot...it's his personality that's not...
I hope your gandmother is doing well and that you can get to her soon.
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I think the weirdest thing for me is that Ilan went from being one of the cooler chefs...kinda laid back and into his food and doing his best ...to like the biggest jerk ever in 1 episode....people were thinking so highly of him and WHAM...he comes out with this attitude...
Was wondering about that myself. Only thing I can think of is that he was being labled a big GEEK, was that way in high school too. Wanted to be in the COOL crowd this time so tipped over the "line of sanity" and joined the CrackPot Crew. Unfortunately, he and Elia both look like they are TRUELY crazy...not just acting. And the constant calling to Marcel from Ilan...that sh!t is just scary!!!
You know I never joined a sorority in college and really didn't go the greek parties because group think and pressure always scared me...how quickly it can get out of control. You know everyone is getting down on Elia...and I'm not about to take sides...but as the only female in that group of most large men...it might have been a tough room to stand up to...just a thought...
Could be, give her the benefit of the doubt on that, MAYBE. But she did stick up for him before. I don't think she has much of a backbone. Has probably never had any kind of confrontation with anyone of this magnitude. BUT, that pix of her with the googlie, crazy eyes.....SH!T!!! That pix can give nightmares!
OMG...she looks like someone messed with the picture...very alien!
Disturbing!
Actually, I think she hit that pose for a mili-second, but when you freeze frame it....YIKES!!
I wouldn't be showing that to any future husbands...I'l tell you that much! might be a glimpse at how children will look as infants..eeek!lol!
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January 24, 2007 - 10:28 AM
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i agree with you...but my bet is on their having facked up....they gambled and lost. You could be right...but that still doesn't explain why they made the crop on the image of Elia with her hair intact. That's the one telling action which has no otherwise reasonable explanation.
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January 24, 2007 - 10:29 AM
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Yes Stephen was more annoying IMO...I'm just not getting this gross waste of time on hating Marcel...Doesn't anyone really want to win?
I KNOW.......It's like every little thing....Like they are starved for some hostility and drama.. Well...Mikey said he wasn't that bad...Cliff said it and so did Carlos.....Lee Anne says it ...No not Sam or Ilan.......How could they now??
JUST ADDING A BIT OF SPICE
BUT YOU HAVE TO FIGURE
THEY ALL SAY THEY HAVE GOOD FAN SUPPORT
WELL I THINK THEY HAVE EQUAL AMOUNTS OF HATE MAIL AS WELL
SO GOING EASY AT THIS POINT WOULD BE AN
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BUT THE "TELL"
IS THE NO REUNION BECAUSE OF NON PARTICIPATION
BOILS DOWN
TO BAD CHOICES
ON EVERYONES PLATTER
BRAVOS AND THE CONTESTANTS
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
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DISCUSTING!!! (already finish 4 cup o' joe so keyboard is safe) "And he has joined his competitors in turning against Marcel...." WHATEVER!! that little geek was one of the FIRST ones to bash Marcel...all over the knife incident when they first got to LA. Mommy seems to be doing a good job for her widdle Ilan. Good thing, cause most of the rest of the world think he's an ASS!!
You sure do find some interesting articles Holster. Good job!
Shows how corrupt and/or stupid journalists have become.
No wonder Ilan is showing up in all sorts of news outlets...Mommy works in the biz.
Spin spin, spin.
Ain't going to wash though.
Only ones buying it are the ones in his home town, cause the rest of the world knows what a deeeeeeeck he really is.
Hey am I crazy or am I the only one that didn't think this put Ilan in a positive light? Thats what a puff peice does right? They had to disclose his Mom working there. That to me wasn't an issue. It was pretty accurate I thought. Ilan may not have liked Marcel from the get go but Betty was the first one that had major issues with him.
Holster nice comment on the comment page lol. But who here calls him Beavis? Beavis is the blond one btw. lol.
Hmmm. If Ilan's mommy works in the biz, and Ilan keeps calling Marcel every day, could it be . . . . that mommy would like to create a puff piece showing the two of them all friendly, kissing and making up (figuratively, that is)?
Possibly, but maybe mom is a print setter, a ad coordinator, a distribution manager. Nobody knows. I also don't understand why the families of the contestants are being dragged into/bashed in this whole contest? If you ask me the earlier peice that ran as the season started was more of a "puff" piece than this, far more. If this was a puff piece wouldn't actual exclusive quotes from Ilan be more effective than canned ones from Bravo's release?
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January 24, 2007 - 10:31 AM
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I don't know have they or was that sarcasm? Every interveiw I've read is the chefs daying that they weren't showing the real annoying parts of Marcel.
Yes Stephen was more annoying IMO...I'm just not getting this gross waste of time on hating Marcel...Doesn't anyone really want to win?
I KNOW.......It's like every little thing....Like they are starved for some hostility and drama.. Well...Mikey said he wasn't that bad...Cliff said it and so did Carlos.....Lee Anne says it ...No not Sam or Ilan.......How could they now??
JUST ADDING A BIT OF SPICE
BUT YOU HAVE TO FIGURE
THEY ALL SAY THEY HAVE GOOD FAN SUPPORT
WELL I THINK THEY HAVE EQUAL AMOUNTS OF HATE MAIL AS WELL
SO GOING EASY AT THIS POINT WOULD BE AN
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BUT THE "TELL"
IS THE NO REUNION BECAUSE OF NON PARTICIPATION
BOILS DOWN
TO BAD CHOICES
ON EVERYONES PLATTER
BRAVOS AND THE CONTESTANTS
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
Can I get an AMEN?
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Ok now I'm lost...when you say you did NOT want him to be that guy...did you mean you didn't want him to win or you didn't want him to be an uncaring jerk?*scrathing my head*
No. Not going there. I'm not "that girl." (Marlo Thomas does the Dance Of Joy)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOO K
IC
NOW WHY CAN I SEE YOU HOLDING SAM DOWN
WITH LITTLE EFFORT
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
Oh, I'd prolly have to hog-tie him first--of course, hog-tying does have its advantages, and its rewards!
SUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEE
YOU'RE JUST REVEALING A KINKY SIDE
SAM WOULD TAKE ONE LOOK AT THAT HAT
AND LAY STRAIGHT DOWN
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
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January 24, 2007 - 10:32 AM
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I think the weirdest thing for me is that Ilan went from being one of the cooler chefs...kinda laid back and into his food and doing his best ...to like the biggest jerk ever in 1 episode....people were thinking so highly of him and WHAM...he comes out with this attitude...
Absolutely. In the first couple of episodes, he was my pick to win...both for his skills and maturity. And then, in each subsequent episode he revealed depth upon depth of immaturity. Betty was fuel to the fire. She and Ilan brought out the worst in each other, and then the worst in the others. Whereas Marcel, whom I did not like, only grew in maturity. First impressions are not always reliable.
Totally agree...I actually found Marcel to be more like Stephen. And while everyone last season found Stephen to be annoying nobody threatened him bodily harm. I think some people are more easily "dominated" than others....My friends have told me my whole life that I have this "don't touch me" vibe when it comes to confrontation...I think some people don't have that...unfortunatly for Marcel...
People had bigger fish to fry than Stephen last season and they were treated much better in terms of accomidations etc...
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January 24, 2007 - 10:33 AM
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Maybe whoever put that screen cap on the net Photoshopped it? Maybe she is wearing a stocking cap or has a pillow over her head?
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January 24, 2007 - 10:33 AM
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Just read snarkgirl's very well thought out discussion on the series of events---and I have a question for anyone out there. Back on page 61 or so I stated that I thought Elia had an interview in the previous week's episode with her red headscarf and shorter hair (the wig) and we know that Ilan had his 'unibomber' look going that week too. (many-many people commented on it) So we know that they are dropping in later interviews in earlier episodes. Why? HMMM. I would really like it if someone could/would check the previous week's episode and see if Elia is indeed wearing the wig in any of her interviews--I would also be interested in what she said and who she said it about.
And here is a thought Bravo---I know they must be positively drooling over the fact that there is so much interest in Top Chef right now--everyone is talking about it-ecetera, ecetera and I imagine that the next two episodes will get big ratings. I will be 'glued to my seat' tonight but--unlike PR or last season's TC I will not be watching the repeats over and over and over again. Once is very much enough. I don't think I am alone in this--filling out your schedule with TC2 marathons will not be as profitable as they hope/think
Hee, hee, now I'm "snarkgirl."
Speaking of dropping in footage filmed later to help "create" the story, which it seems clear that the producers do fairly frequently, there is one additional point that needs to be checked out. All parties involved are tenaciously hanging onto the story that the sequence of the assault events is exactly as shown. Yet, the original airing showed Marcel stalking off in anger with Elia clearly visible on the rug, full head of hair still intact.
Query: What if they really ARE telling the truth? What if this damning scene was actually an editing "drop-in" to finish the assault story? Could this have been filmed earlier, when Elia was on the rug doing her yoga exercises?
Somebody who taped the original please verify: Was that scene also as badly lit as the rest of Ilan's filming of that night, or is it suddenly well-lit as if filmed by the production crew on a different date?
We anxiously await your confirmation.
she's not doing yoga. she's definetly wearing same close and filming light is same. she is def. either laughing or crying and when Ilan calls for her and she says she can't she is laughing a little.
also, if sam says stop, it is def. whilst laughing. I can't hear it anywhere. one point he might be saying you gotta stop, but he is giggling so much it's hard to tell.
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GOOD NIGHT ALL!! I'm beat so going to snuggle with Hubby and the baby. (Can't say doggie, JMe gets upset...they are the babies) lol
Play nice everyone
DANG TOOTIN
THEM IS BABIES
GNITE SIZ
MISSED EVERYBODY AGAIN TONIGHT
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
Still doing the interview stuff...takes its toll and makes me tired...long process for county jobs, test first then two interviews (if you are lucky) yestday ws second for this job. Should find out by the end of the week. Thought it went pretty well, but you just never know..5 peeps for 3 jobs..always someone younger and smarter so....ya know what I mean jelly bean?? (O:
Well good Luck Siz anyway sometimes experience wins out!
WELL YOU GOTTA STOP TOTIN THEM ATOM BOMBS
CARRY ONE OF THEM "BIG STICKS" INSTEAD
PHOTO'S MIGHT HELP
HINT HINT
GOOD LUCK SIZ
I left my A-Bomb in the truck....just in case. Will find out by the end of the week if it detonated itself. LOL
YOU LEFT YOUR TRUCK??????
DANG I WOULD HAVE JUST LEFT THE BOMB
YOU TERRORIST
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
LOL no silly, left the A-Bomb IN the truck...had to get home somehow...50 miles way too far to walk
SO YOU TOOK THE BOMB HOME??????????
LUCKY I DEFUSED IT
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
leila4spirit
January 24, 2007 - 10:35 AM
Just read everyone's blogs and agree with Harold and Padma. I thought Top Chef was a really good reality show with some class and style and integrity. Last season I was cheering for Harold and Lee Ann; they had all the qualities of a Top Chef. This bunch doesn't have a winner IMO. They are silly and immature and any skills they have in cooking are lost in their idiotic behavior. If the producers want a reality show of the caliber of 'Flavor of Love' or Jerry Springer they have been successful. What a disgusting mess! Wish they could have done as Tom wanted and sent them all home with Marcel winning by default. Guess this makes for good TV and ratings; but wish it was an exciting competion and not a cluster f--k!!!!
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January 24, 2007 - 10:35 AM
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You're right. My bad.
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January 24, 2007 - 10:36 AM
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Indeed. A Lickably Orgasmic, Sinfully Erotic Rough-houser.
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I'm not sure if anyone knew but I just read this on TMZ.com
"Top Chef" archvillain Marcel Vigneron got an eyeful at a club in Vegas when a stranger broke a bottle over his head, he tells Las Vegas Weekly. He had to go to the hospital and get stitched up"
Hmmm.
Ha, ha, ha...
I wonder what Marcel did to piss this person off.
It is pathetic that you are laughing about a person in real life being cracked in the head with a wine bottle and needing 30 stitches. Whether or not you like Marcel, your comment was ridiculous. Grow up!
The laughing aside I have asked myself the same question.
I have a VERY hard time believeing that a strange woman smashed a bottle in his face at a bar , that it was entirely top chef motivated, and no charges were filed.
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Thanks for the link, I just read it. Feh.
Hey RSH...I must ask...Do you have the rock star hair????
I keep thinking of the guy who won Rock Star Super Nova every time i see your name..Now HE had some pretty rock star hair!!!
Sigh...I love rock stars..my ex was a wanna be rock star....Not really He deplored the "biz" buit he sure was sexy and he sure could play like a muth af&cka and sing too.
I'llsend you a song Siz.he is/was really good.
I was his bigest fan.....sob!!
Too bad he went crazy on me.
I'm gonna post a pic of him.
Can't wait to hear it. Don't cry little Kristl...even though some of the peeps on this board are "borderline crazy" we will try not to go all the way over the edge...K?
Rockers are the heartbreakers...we truely believe what they write in their songs and then they aren't anything like that in rl....sucks bad!
Me, not much of a rocker fan, but Country Music???? There are a few there I would spend a lot of time with..LOL
There is something about a cowboy...that untamable male....hmmmm...
OH YEAH!! Like the licence plate says...Wrangler Butts Drive Me Nuts!! YEE HAW..saddle up cowboy!! (Keep this up and I'll need another shower...George Strait, Toby Keith, Sam Elliott(not a singer, but does look good in Wranglers) sigh......I tired now. Need a nap...and a smoke. lol
MAYBE A VALIUM
AND A RIDE ON THAT BOMB
MAKE SURE YOU PUT IT AWAY AFTER
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
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January 24, 2007 - 10:38 AM
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I will let you know after I finish listeing to this ridiculous interview with Tom C. afterall, my name is Daverocks, so all these comments about dave are incredibly hurtful I love it that he thought dave was there on LUCK! well, he worked his butt off at the wedding, winning the respect of his teammates, the napa chefs loved his food, etc. jeez!
TomC is an ass. Dave was much better than most of the chef in Season 2.
I was really surprised how much Tom disses Dave in the interview...I always knew he disliked Dave in Season 1, but thought it rather tacky to harp on it now. He must like Tiff quite a bit.
you know, I think more than anything he didn't like his presentation style. that he wasn't professional enough with his food and his demeanor. But, Dave proved himself time and again with his food. people loved it most of the time. there were times, he didn't do so well, but most of the time his food was pretty well received. and that is what is supposed to be important-the food! I don't think Dave was enough of at "artist" for Chef Tom. I know I didn't taste it, but people who did often had fabulous things to say about Dave's food which is what most people were talking about when they would say food tasted bad or good, the comments the guest judges or people they were feeding said.
he MUST have liked tiffany to choose her over LeAnne to go the finale-if in fact that is what happened.
ok. I'm gonna shut it now before I get in trouble.
My dishnetwork is down....it probably wont' be up by tonight. I'm so thoroughly disappointed that I am not going to get to see this show when it airs. though, I'm not sure why. I know I don't want any of those guys to win and I don't want marcel to win by default but I'm still interested! darn bravo!!!!
Yes, I still cannot stand Tom C for his constant bashing of Dave.
Dave did an excellent job last season and also he was a big team player in the team challenges.
That's why I do not care what Tom says about the Marcel incident, to me the man has not credibility.
How many times did Tom rewrite history last season in his blog?
Too many to count as far as I'm concerned.
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January 24, 2007 - 10:40 AM
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i agree with you...but my bet is on their having facked up....they gambled and lost. You could be right...but that still doesn't explain why they made the crop on the image of Elia with her hair intact. That's the one telling action which has no otherwise reasonable explanation.
Maybe whoever put that screen cap on the net Photoshopped it? Maybe she is wearing a stocking cap or has a pillow over her head?
Nope too many external confirmations. It's clearly hair.
Of course, all BRAVO needs to do is clarify it one way or another.
First rule of PR...get it out in the open...unless youo want people to specualte about it ad nauseum. The longer they stonewall, the worse it could be in terms of their reputation. Not a great thing leading up to their newest Reality show (TopDesign) if people feel they will be manipulated and duped again.
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DISCUSTING!!! (already finish 4 cup o' joe so keyboard is safe) "And he has joined his competitors in turning against Marcel...." WHATEVER!! that little geek was one of the FIRST ones to bash Marcel...all over the knife incident when they first got to LA. Mommy seems to be doing a good job for her widdle Ilan. Good thing, cause most of the rest of the world think he's an ASS!!
You sure do find some interesting articles Holster. Good job!
Shows how corrupt and/or stupid journalists have become.
No wonder Ilan is showing up in all sorts of news outlets...Mommy works in the biz.
Spin spin, spin.
Ain't going to wash though.
Only ones buying it are the ones in his home town, cause the rest of the world knows what a deeeeeeeck he really is.
NOT
I'M THE DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
THAT SLAPPED ILANS HAIR RIGHT OFF HIS HEAD
MADE FUN OF MARCEL
PUT THE KNIVES AROUND HIM WHILE HE SLEPT
WATCHED ILAN GIVE ELIA THAT SMILE OF SATISFACTION
GLARED AT GAIL
HID TOM'S CLOTHES BEFORE HE WENT TO THE BEACH
PUT CHER'S OLD JACKET IN PADMA'S WARDROBE
BOGARTED THAT DOOB
LEFT AN OLIVE PIT ON SEVEN TABLES
TOLD MIKEY TO DROP THE PORK CHOP IN THE WATER AND NOT SAY ANYTHING
BURNED THE BACON
TOLD CLIFF BEING ROOOD WAS COOL
TOOK 25 BUCKS FROM MIKEY FROM THE STORE TO THE JUDGES TABLE
KILLED THE RAT ON MARCELS BACK
NOW ALL I'M WAITING FOR IS TO FIND THE DANG
CLIPPERS SO I CAN GET ME SOME SPIDER LEGS
OH AND I'M SHY
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
Woosh! Are ya tired yet??? If not, you should be. LOL You been pretty busy!
THAT'S NOT THE HALF OF IT SIZ
HAD TO DEFUSE A BOMB LEFT IN A TRUCK
FOUND EVIDENCE TOO
TINY SAUSAGE PRINTS [8
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
ROTFLMAO...excellent JMe...giggle giggle...don't rat out the babies...they're just babies...no prison time for them.
NO WORRIES SIZ
GOT YOUR BACK
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
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January 24, 2007 - 10:40 AM
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Just read snarkgirl's very well thought out discussion on the series of events---and I have a question for anyone out there. Back on page 61 or so I stated that I thought Elia had an interview in the previous week's episode with her red headscarf and shorter hair (the wig) and we know that Ilan had his 'unibomber' look going that week too. (many-many people commented on it) So we know that they are dropping in later interviews in earlier episodes. Why? HMMM. I would really like it if someone could/would check the previous week's episode and see if Elia is indeed wearing the wig in any of her interviews--I would also be interested in what she said and who she said it about.
And here is a thought Bravo---I know they must be positively drooling over the fact that there is so much interest in Top Chef right now--everyone is talking about it-ecetera, ecetera and I imagine that the next two episodes will get big ratings. I will be 'glued to my seat' tonight but--unlike PR or last season's TC I will not be watching the repeats over and over and over again. Once is very much enough. I don't think I am alone in this--filling out your schedule with TC2 marathons will not be as profitable as they hope/think
Hee, hee, now I'm "snarkgirl."
Speaking of dropping in footage filmed later to help "create" the story, which it seems clear that the producers do fairly frequently, there is one additional point that needs to be checked out. All parties involved are tenaciously hanging onto the story that the sequence of the assault events is exactly as shown. Yet, the original airing showed Marcel stalking off in anger with Elia clearly visible on the rug, full head of hair still intact.
Query: What if they really ARE telling the truth? What if this damning scene was actually an editing "drop-in" to finish the assault story? Could this have been filmed earlier, when Elia was on the rug doing her yoga exercises?
Somebody who taped the original please verify: Was that scene also as badly lit as the rest of Ilan's filming of that night, or is it suddenly well-lit as if filmed by the production crew on a different date?
We anxiously await your confirmation.
Actually, this below-cited re-cutting and reordering of events seems to cinch it that the show was doctored. The scene of Marcel stalking out was crooked and shaky, and only well-lit at one point because several ceiling lights were on. This was not a professionally taped clip, IMO.
It also makes sense that Marcel had his shirt off when they followed after him and he bashed the camera away.
Looks to me like the producers did, in fact, re-order Ilan's film to make it look as though the contestants were building up to attacking Marcel, rather than just continuing to goof around completely insensitive to what had just happened. Bah humbug.
Check it out:
http://screampunch.typepad.com/i_am_scream...hef_an_alt.html
well, to be quite honest I thought that the hair shaving bit with Elia and Ilan did seem like bad acting or just weird from the get go. it seemed planned so I have no problem believing it was done after they attacked marcel. I knew something was weird about it. Cliff showing himself drinking, the dialoge.
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Ok I see your point, but most people are going to see that comparison and coupel it with all the "Ilan the stalker" garbage that has been posted here and put two and two togeahter.
As far as disgracing Long Island, thats a bit of a stretch. I don't know how anyone takes one person on a reality TV show and draws a conclusion about an entire reagon of a state unless there is a pre-exsisting stigma that being re-enforced.
Well, he is stalking marcel, isn't he? i mean Ilan says in an interview that he still talks to Marcel and in another interview, Marcel says Ilan's been leaving all these messages that Marcel doesn't return because of the way Ilan treated him.
Isn't that a form of stalking...persistent unwanted attention?
WEll..maybe your saint Marcel is stretching the truth a little...Ya' think?
IronChef
January 24, 2007 - 10:42 AM
Thanks, everyone, for your inquiries on my Grandmother. She's in stable condition at this point, and is now expected to recover, however she's becoming less and less "herself" with each successive stroke. I'm planning on going to Ohio to see her this weekend, since her condition has been upgraded and there's not as much urgency. It was definitely a scare, though!
Thanks again for your kind words, and for asking about how she's doing.
Lia
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January 24, 2007 - 10:43 AM
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I have a VERY hard time believeing that a strange woman smashed a bottle in his face at a bar , that it was entirely top chef motivated, and no charges were filed.
So, you think marcel is lying in the interview when he says the girl specifically asked whether he was the guy from TopChef?
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TomC is an ass. Dave was much better than most of the chef in Season 2.
I was really surprised how much Tom disses Dave in the interview...I always knew he disliked Dave in Season 1, but thought it rather tacky to harp on it now. He must like Tiff quite a bit.
you know, I think more than anything he didn't like his presentation style. that he wasn't professional enough with his food and his demeanor. But, Dave proved himself time and again with his food. people loved it most of the time. there were times, he didn't do so well, but most of the time his food was pretty well received. and that is what is supposed to be important-the food! I don't think Dave was enough of at "artist" for Chef Tom. I know I didn't taste it, but people who did often had fabulous things to say about Dave's food which is what most people were talking about when they would say food tasted bad or good, the comments the guest judges or people they were feeding said.
he MUST have liked tiffany to choose her over LeAnne to go the finale-if in fact that is what happened.
ok. I'm gonna shut it now before I get in trouble.
My dishnetwork is down....it probably wont' be up by tonight. I'm so thoroughly disappointed that I am not going to get to see this show when it airs. though, I'm not sure why. I know I don't want any of those guys to win and I don't want marcel to win by default but I'm still interested! darn bravo!!!!
Or quite simply the producers overruled him. Remember in Toms Blog he said this was the first time he was vetod "THIS SEASON". Thats a telling slip of the tounge.
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Indeed. A Lickably Orgasmic, Sinfully Erotic Rough-houser.
I concur Lia my friend.
I am sorry to hear about your Grandmother.
If you could, can you email me a link to the exco boards.
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"Top Chef" archvillain Marcel Vigneron got an eyeful at a club in Vegas when a stranger broke a bottle over his head, he tells Las Vegas Weekly. He had to go to the hospital and get stitched up"
Hmmm.
Ha, ha, ha...
I wonder what Marcel did to piss this person off.
It is pathetic that you are laughing about a person in real life being cracked in the head with a wine bottle and needing 30 stitches. Whether or not you like Marcel, your comment was ridiculous. Grow up!
The laughing aside I have asked myself the same question.
I have a VERY hard time believeing that a strange woman smashed a bottle in his face at a bar , that it was entirely top chef motivated, and no charges were filed.
Yah, me thinks Saint Marcel is playing up his "poor widdle me" status in the interview talking about the bottle incident.
Something MAJOR is being left out of his version...for sure.
Especially since no charges were ever filed. Hell, the owners would be the ones to call the police, it wouldn't even be up to Marcel at that point to file charges.
Holster
January 24, 2007 - 10:47 AM
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Ok I see your point, but most people are going to see that comparison and coupel it with all the "Ilan the stalker" garbage that has been posted here and put two and two togeahter.
As far as disgracing Long Island, thats a bit of a stretch. I don't know how anyone takes one person on a reality TV show and draws a conclusion about an entire reagon of a state unless there is a pre-exsisting stigma that being re-enforced.
Well, he is stalking marcel, isn't he? i mean Ilan says in an interview that he still talks to Marcel and in another interview, Marcel says Ilan's been leaving all these messages that Marcel doesn't return because of the way Ilan treated him.
Isn't that a form of stalking...persistent unwanted attention?
WEll..maybe your saint Marcel is stretching the truth a little...Ya' think?
No.i don't because i have never seen Marcel do that, whereas
i have seem Ilan do it. And what reasom would Marcel have to lie about this...it's easily confirmable ?
WhataJoke
January 24, 2007 - 10:49 AM
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Ok I see your point, but most people are going to see that comparison and coupel it with all the "Ilan the stalker" garbage that has been posted here and put two and two togeahter.
As far as disgracing Long Island, thats a bit of a stretch. I don't know how anyone takes one person on a reality TV show and draws a conclusion about an entire reagon of a state unless there is a pre-exsisting stigma that being re-enforced.
Well, he is stalking marcel, isn't he? i mean Ilan says in an interview that he still talks to Marcel and in another interview, Marcel says Ilan's been leaving all these messages that Marcel doesn't return because of the way Ilan treated him.
Isn't that a form of stalking...persistent unwanted attention?
First your assuming that Marcel is telling the truth and Ilan is lieing. Its plainly a he said he said situation. And even if he is telling the truth its hardly stalking. More like harrassment.
SisterZip73
January 24, 2007 - 10:52 AM
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I apologize if I've been somehow cryptic or unncessarily vague. My Grandmother--poetess, fiction writer, wordsmith and librarian extraordinaire, as well as the woman who singlehandedly engendered a love of the English language in me, and who encouraged me to pursue a degree in English--was rushed to the hospital tonight after a series of strokes.
I'm still here because my employer has determined that my input on a "presidential" article appearing tomorrow morning is a project more important than my family. You'll forgive me, I hope, if I don't comment further on that. All I can say is that my request to fly home today has been refused.
I do apologize, though, if my comments tonight are even more ascerbic than usual. It's not you, believe me, so I hope you'll forgive me if I seem out of sorts.
Lia,
I'm sorry about your grandma. I know how that feels. In 1982 I couldn't go see my grandpa before he died (and he only lived 2 hours from here) for much the same reasons. When Grandma got sick in 1996, I made sure I was there and told the PTB (powers that be) they could kiss my fat white ass and fire me, but I was going. It is amazing what a little age can do for a person!
As soon as you can, just go. They can find someone else or you can email/fax/mail it. The electronic age is a wonderful thing.
You are in my prayers.
Zip/Pam
JUSTMEAOD
January 24, 2007 - 10:53 AM
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YOU KNOW SIZ
FUNNY THING IF YOU COMPARE THAT NS TO TC
I DON'T HAVE A FAV THERE YET
BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL SO DANG GOOD
WRITE THIER OWN SONGS, PLAY THIER OWN INSTRUMENTS. LOTS OF TALENT
FROM EP TWO OF TC
NOTHING, ZERO, NO TALENT, NO SKILL, BAD ATTITUDES
DO WISH NS HAD THE JUDGES MAKE THE DECISIONS
UP TO THE LAST THREE
NEVER BEEN TO THIER BOARDS
BUT IT MUST SUCK
SAY IF YOU HATED ME AND I HAD A FAVORITE
BANG
DOWN THE ROAD
I WOULD SAY THAT'S THE ONLY PLUS TC HAS THIS SEASON
CAN'T IMAGINE WHO WOULD STILL BE THERE IF IT WERE UP TO THE VIEWERS
JMO
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN
I agree. Even though the audience makes the cuts on NS, just getting there shows a LOT of talent. They are judged by professionals to get there, or so I think. Here, on TC, they are judged by producers to get on the show, or so I think. There fore, they are more judged on what they can DO for the show to make it a hit, not how talented they are. Too bad they can't take a hint from USA/NS.
FUNNY THING TOO IS
NS GETS A BAD RAP BECAUSE IT'S "COUNTRY"
SHRUG
THEY MAKE THE CONTESTANTS PERFORM EVERY GENRE
AND THEY TAKE PEOPLE FROM JUST ABOUT ANY WALK OF LIFE
NO AGE. APPEARANCE LIMITATIONS
UNLIKE SEVERAL OTHER WHO WANT TO APPEAL TO A
CERTAIN "GROUP" OF VIEWERS
I THINK THATS WHAT DREW ME TO THAT SHOW IN THE FIRST PLACE
FELT THAT WAS A DOWN POINT FOR AI
THEY HAVE THAT "FOCUS GROUP" LIMIT OF WHAT
30??
NS IS IF YOU CAN SING WRITE A SONG OR TWO
BRING IT!
AND THE HOSTESSES ARE ALWAYS PRETTY TOO
JUST THOUGHT I'D ADD THAT
HAVE A REP TO KEEP LOL
TAKE CARE OVER THERE
ALOHA
HAVE FUN