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Good luck on tonight's shoot, Actor. This is totally OT but did you hear on the news where Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie bought a 3.5 million dollar house in the Quarter and they are planning to live here and send their children to school here? What are they thinking? Heck, my family has been here for generations; I love this city. But even the private schools don't offer much in the way of edu-ma-cation.

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That might be possible. But I think Marcel is acting this way now because he's had enough of their b.s. if that is what he is doing. Hard to tell with those previews.
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Has anyone seen the trailer for next week? You should all take a peak at it. Not that I believe to much in the trailers but if it is correct...Marcel turns the heat down on the stove and gets Ilan mad, comments something about burning pan to Sam (if I remember correctly) and then moves Elia's steamer pan off the burner to put his pan on the stove. Elia's comment is ...paraphrased, classic Marcel behavior. Has he done this kind of thing before in other episodes and we did not see it or missed it? Could this be the reason most of the chefs are not happy with Marcel?

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Could be the way you intrepreted it, but I do remember that Marcel when asked by Ilan to take his eggs out of a pan (during a scene at breakfast prior to cooking in the Kenmore Kitchens) Marcel responded that he wanted to keep his eggs warm while he was cooking something else, which meant that Illan had to wait until Marcel was finished. It would not have hurt had Marcel removed his eggs and kept them warm in a microwave or something, just a thought. With all the craziness that has been going on, who knows what is going to happen next.

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Just a quick note or two..first, the judges said, "Cliff would probably been sent home, his dish sucked", then in the next sentence, "Well, now that Cliff is gone, who should we send home?" WTF! It sounded like 4 peeps were going to Hawaii, and when Cliff was told to pack it up and vamoose, that left 4 peeps!. Why would there be ANY discussion of who was going home? If Cliff had not attacted Marcel, and would have made it to the judges table, he would (so they say) been asked to pack his knives and go. That said, then they had ALWAYS planned for 4 peeps in Hawaii. Make sense???

Second, on the booze bill....to quote Brad Paisley...helps white people dance...(song title, Alcohol)

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Come on Siz your a Savant now did you not get the memo? We already knew there would be fou...oops sorry Chef Tom hope I did not break my contract as a Savant...ugh NO Siz they had a challenge but loved all the dishes so they all get to go! How's that Chef Tom now can I become a Bravo Afficianado like Justme I want Box Seats Dang it!

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OH MY GOD!!! I have failed in my mission to be the bestest and most awarest savant...are you going to take my merit badge away Actor? LOL I promise to NEVER do it again!!

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That might be possible. But I think Marcel is acting this way now because he's had enough of their b.s. if that is what he is doing. Hard to tell with those previews.
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Has anyone seen the trailer for next week? You should all take a peak at it. Not that I believe to much in the trailers but if it is correct...Marcel turns the heat down on the stove and gets Ilan mad, comments something about burning pan to Sam (if I remember correctly) and then moves Elia's steamer pan off the burner to put his pan on the stove. Elia's comment is ...paraphrased, classic Marcel behavior. Has he done this kind of thing before in other episodes and we did not see it or missed it? Could this be the reason most of the chefs are not happy with Marcel?

Suggest everyone take a look at it.

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Could be the way you intrepreted it, but I do remember that Marcel when asked by Ilan to take his eggs out of a pan (during a scene at breakfast prior to cooking in the Kenmore Kitchens) Marcel responded that he wanted to keep his eggs warm while he was cooking something else, which meant that Illan had to wait until Marcel was finished. It would not have hurt had Marcel removed his eggs and kept them warm in a microwave or something, just a thought. With all the craziness that has been going on, who knows what is going to happen next.

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I did ...but...how do we know when everything really happened??...You know what I mean..Couldn't they have edited it differently...I thought you read this somehwere.

I'm not saying I don't believe you of course.I'm just wondering if you can be sure.That Sam says to keep filming him like he is friggin Ceclie B Demille ordering one of his flunkies around......SAM I am so mad at you!!

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I did ...but...how do we know when everything really happened??...You know what I mean..Couldn't they have edited it differently...I thought you read this somehwere.

I'm not saying I don't believe you of course.I'm just wondering if you can be sure.That Sam says to keep filming him like he is friggin Ceclie B Demille ordering one of his flunkies around......SAM I am so mad at you!!

Did you all see Ilan with his two fingers out behind Marcel to Sam as he wanted the second course...Such a baby.

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Also, from the way things appeared on the video, Cliff grabbed Marcel and wrestled him to the ground apparently with the idea that Sam, Ilan or Elia were going to shave Marcel. He called for Sam first, however.

Anyway, it makes me wonder if getting Cliff to physically attack Marcel wasn't another one of Ilan/Sam's conspiracies...get Cliff to manhandle Marcel to the ground, then Sam, Ilan and Elia refusing to do what they had agreed to do (which is, apparently, shaving Marcel), so that Cliff would be sent home. Then they could all throw Marcel under the you-know-what at the judge's table--another one of Ilan's conspiracy tactics--so that Sam, Ilan and Elia would go to Hawaii.

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Good question Holster. Does seem to get crazy around here at specific times. Me, I post ROUND THE CLOCK. LOL, not really, just feels like it. Besides, I have a reputation as a savant to live up to now. hahahahaha

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That might be possible. But I think Marcel is acting this way now because he's had enough of their b.s. if that is what he is doing. Hard to tell with those previews.
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Has anyone seen the trailer for next week? You should all take a peak at it. Not that I believe to much in the trailers but if it is correct...Marcel turns the heat down on the stove and gets Ilan mad, comments something about burning pan to Sam (if I remember correctly) and then moves Elia's steamer pan off the burner to put his pan on the stove. Elia's comment is ...paraphrased, classic Marcel behavior. Has he done this kind of thing before in other episodes and we did not see it or missed it? Could this be the reason most of the chefs are not happy with Marcel?

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Basically I agree with what you are saying, I just find him at times very annoying, but as you say this is no reason for him to win. I kind of feel they all should have been terminated with no winner at all this season. I too think they need to choose their contestants better, had they done so maybe this mess would not have happened. The people behind the cameras need to stay out of it, I think they too are to blame for much of what has happened. The producers when the over ruled Tom about kicking all involved off the show, just reinforces what I had said for a long time, the producers are more interested in ratings than anything else.

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You didn't ask me but I wanted to jump in because I mentioned this earlier. Even though I want Marcel to win out of the remaining chefs, I think I would have preferred the contest to end right then. I think I prefer that because these chefs do not deserve to be in Hawaii and because I know that they already vetoed making Marcel default winner. I guess I just don't trust Bravo to make the rest of the competition "fair" under the circumstances. What if they pull another paired challenge? Anyway what I think they SHOULD have done is to give Marcel a confidential settlement so that he would not sue and to kick the other contestants out. I guess I'm hoping Marcel will get fan favorite because he's been kicked around emotionally by the remaining competitors so it would be a nice way to show him that not everybody feels that way.

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Hear hear....There is a good and decent side to all of them I think..
Maybe that's why his restaurant closed down????Maybe he couldn't handle the pressure of leading.They all said he was freaking out in the rest. challenge.

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"You still haven't addressed any of the issues I raised, nor answered the original question. But you have now twice accused me of something about which you have no knowledge--including what my intent is by posting here.

If I was to play that game, I could say that you really don't want to discuss anybody's opinion here but you post here only to promote Sam and take down Marcel, no matter how ridiculous it makes you look, and even if it means you have to "mischaracterize" your own danged interview with Marcel.

Face it. You attempted to spin the assault less than it was, and to limit the damage to the rest of the contestants involved by restricting the participants to Cliff only.

You then tried to spin those criticizing what happened as somehow wrong because nobody's perfect.

And you question MY intent in posting?"

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Oh, I answered you but you didnt like my answers.

You want to stay hung up over my misquote from Marcel even though I corrected myself,apologized and copy and pasted the correct statement for all to see. Interesting. What was that Marcel/Cliff goof you made?


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Brilke, your zen for mischaracterization really knows no bounds. You did not answer the original question I posed to you after you said that you didn't think Marcel should win TC: Do you think the gang assault on a sleeping colleague is one of the qualifications for being TC?

You said the assault happened because of the alcohol, because of this, because of that...but you didn't answer the question.

And, actually, I believe it was *I* who went to your blog and copied and pasted what Marcel had said.

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Yes, Ive talked to Marcel more then once. And yes, I misspoke. Marcel said

"Yes there were glasses but did i break them? No! They were probably stepped on by production or a camera guy, I dont know. "

I got the part where Marcel agreed to pay for the glasses from Frank. My apologies.

Does this mean Marcel didnt say that to Frank? Since I didnt ask Marcel that question, I cannot say for sure.

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http://bloggingtopchef.blogspot.com/2006_1...10_archive.html


Thank you for pointing out my error, I did not mean to misquote.

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Liddy - I see where you are coming from. I only watched the episode onces so my opinions are based on my initial reactions. I recall clearly seeing Cliff and Sam in the video and hearing Ilan. I do not recall hearing Elia or seeing her in the shots. Therefore, I did not include her in my comments. However, if Elia did see what was going on and did not take any action, than she too is just as guilty in the deplorable actions against Marcel as Sam or Ilan would be in my book.

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I agree...there is a good, decent side of Sam. Almost feminine. Must have had a sweet mother, if doting. The problem is that his decency is inconsistent and disappears in crisis. I want to support Sam, I really do. His food is great. But he is not an adult. He is not someone I would trust. If he looks up to Michael Midgley and Miguel as heros, as he has said he does, his priorities are skewed and he will never be a leader. Michael and Miguel are great guys and friends but they are not leaders. Not Top Chefs. Neither is Sam. He could be, but he must accept the hard choices a leader must acceot...like telling drunken mates to STOP IT when they are terrorizing an innocent and weaker contestant. He could profit from a very strong, talented and ethical male mentor. IMHO.

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Hear hear....There is a good and decent side to all of them I think..
Maybe that's why his restaurant closed down????Maybe he couldn't handle the pressure of leading.They all said he was freaking out in the rest. challenge.

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Yes, I agree. Sam lacked the sine qua non of leadership: ability to delegate effectively. It's as if he doesn't trust himself, and so can't really trust anyone else. Can lead to nervous break-downs for more sensitive types, as I suspect Sam is.

Strangely, my feeling is that Marcel has no problem with delegation at all. Just not an issue. HIs problem is injecting human warmth into the delagting. But that will come with age. It is easier to learn humility as one grows older than it is to learn leadership. So I suspect in 10-20 years, Marcel will be an amazing master chef IF he pays attention to the lessons life brings him about human relationships.

I think that's why I ultimately support him...of all the chefs, none of whom are now TopChefs, he alone has the talent and the potential to achieve greatness in this field. He alone has stayed focussedd, kept emotions out of it and has exhibited almost none of the ego games of the others.

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I agree...there is a good, decent side of Sam. Almost feminine. Must have had a sweet mother, if doting. The problem is that his decency is inconsistent and disappears in crisis. I want to support Sam, I really do. His food is great. But he is not an adult. He is not someone I would trust. If he looks up to Michael Midgley and Miguel as heros, as he has said he does, his priorities are skewed and he will never be a leader. Michael and Miguel are great guys and friends but they are not leaders. Not Top Chefs. Neither is Sam. He could be, but he must accept the hard choices a leader must acceot...like telling drunken mates to STOP IT when they are terrorizing an innocent and weaker contestant. He could profit from a very strong, talented and ethical male mentor. IMHO.

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Hear hear....There is a good and decent side to all of them I think..
Maybe that's why his restaurant closed down????Maybe he couldn't handle the pressure of leading.They all said he was freaking out in the rest. challenge.

As far as food goes...Oh yes he was the winner.
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Yes, I agree. Sam lacked the sine qua non of leadership: ability to delegate effectively. It's as if he doesn't trust himself, and so can't really trust anyone else. Can lead to nervous break-downs for more sensitive types, as I suspect Sam is.

Strangely, my feeling is that Marcel has no problem with delegation at all. Just not an issue. HIs problem is injecting human warmth into the delagting. But that will come with age. It is easier to learn humility as one grows older than it is to learn leadership. So I suspect in 10-20 years, Marcel will be an amazing master chef IF he pays attention to the lessons life brings him about human relationships.

I think that's why I ultimately support him...of all the chefs, none of whom are now TopChefs, he alone has the talent and the potential to achieve greatness in this field. He alone has stayed focussedd, kept emotions out of it and has exhibited almost none of the ego games of the others.

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The whole thing brought to mind that famous quote, "All that is necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing."

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Has anyone seen the trailer for next week? You should all take a peak at it. Not that I believe to much in the trailers but if it is correct...Marcel turns the heat down on the stove and gets Ilan mad, comments something about burning pan to Sam (if I remember correctly) and then moves Elia's steamer pan off the burner to put his pan on the stove. Elia's comment is ...paraphrased, classic Marcel behavior. Has he done this kind of thing before in other episodes and we did not see it or missed it? Could this be the reason most of the chefs are not happy with Marcel?

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