Ditto

Thanks for the info.

I have emailed my best friend and asked her, will have to wait for a reply because she is in China right now in Bejing.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

That is kind of how I remember younger people talking about it, but I think people of my dad's age thought if you were a feminist that automaticly ment you were gay or a man hater. So maybe that is how the two trains of thought got combined? I was very young so I'm not sure. I know that now it is souposed to be female-not telling you married or single. Several teachers try & go by first names now & I make my boys say "Ms. Peg" or whatever out of respect. I could never call a teacher simply by their first name.

JACKIE'S DRINKING (versus her trainers)

I am posting here since the other board is closed and will try to post in the blog.

Since I haven't seen the episode yet. I was a little astounded at Jackie asking Greg Plitt if he was an alcoholic.

Given the level of her drinking, I hope she uses that to share an experience. If not she's a hypocrite (I haven't seen the show -- so I am hoping the she uses this to express her own demons with alcohol. If not then this is the pot calling the kettle black.

We all know that she got a DUI and hopefully had to do some training. Since the DUI was before this was filmed -- she might bring it up to help someone deal with alcohol issues. If that is the case -- then I have to admire for it. If it is not, the not only has she gotten a big head -- she basically can't look in the mirror with projection.

I hope she is alright after the earthquake! The news said it could be felt in Bejing! What a horrible tragedy, the people of China have been in my prayers!

Wow, that's all that I can say.

Let me just take this time to make my last post on this whole issue regarding Jackie comment issue.

Despite some hateful things that have been posted, some valid points (to me) have been made and I will admit as such.

1. Jamie Eason and her boyfriend have had over a week to make an offical comment on exactly what was said and what and blow by blow what happened. They have chosen to not talk and I am not going to guess at why, but until they do I'm done discussing the same thing.

2. I am sure Peeler is not a saint and does say some "cringeworthy" comments of his own. But he has also admitted to making those same mistakes. I do think he needs to stop referring to Jackie with any reference to her sexual preferences. Overall he comes across as a much more likeable and human guy, and yes I get there all charecters in a show, but I kinda like the charecter of Brian.

3. I dont' hate gay people and that's why I don't want this show to suceeed, I have watched this show from day one and rewatched it many times. I love Flipping Out and Project Runway and Step up and Dance and many other shows that feature gay and lesbian people.

4. Check my past posts, I did mention my distain for Johnathan Antin, ( I know he has his fans here, just not with me). In fact I felt that this show was becoming like Blow out, with the blatant use of the show to push products and the hollier than thou attitude of the boss.

5. I will give you the fact that we all make crappy mistakes and hurt others by our actions and our words, I get that. I will even go as far to say, I would have been far less upset by what happened if Jackie said soemthing to the affect, of

I did make a comment about her breast, I was wrong as I own this gym and everyone who walks in the door should feel safe from having any comments made about them. At the time I didn't think it was a big deal, I see now how my behavior was wrong. I apologize for my actions and my words.

But I have never read Jackie say the words I am sorry. If I am wrong and those words are printed somewhere I apologize in advance. Please post a link of that apology as I think that is what many here are looking for.

6. I enjoy the idea of a show about a gym and the personalites that work and train there, I just would rather it be a little less mean spirited and alot less of the products, (clothing line, dvd, bars, etc.)- a little drama, more inspiration and yes fun as well.

Peace out all,
Pray for those lost in China and Myanmar, as well as the familes destroyed.

Hmmm? interesting thoughts. Was that this weeks show? Didn't tune in.

Yes, and # 3?...

LMAO!! That's what I was thinking!

Leave them wanting more I guess..

I'm still laughing, it just sounded so funny!

The question of Greg's drinking was a teaser for next week's show, so we will have to wait to see what that was all about. When I heard it I was a little surprised because of Jackie's drinking. I do remember from last year that she, I think it was Jackie, said they work hard during the week and drink hard on the weekend.

ctmum sent you a PM

My computer freaked out and posted it before I was done, I have since edited it

Thanks got it

I think you said it all great! You said several things I have thought or said also. Take care.

Thanks, I was left in suspense!

So why has queen Jackie chosen not to post a new blog since her last on the 6th? Is Bravo coaching her or is she in shock at the response she is getting for her behavior. I caught her on the Today Show the other day and she looked stressed out. She dodged questions about this season and just stated that it was a challenging season with the trainers. I figure she looked haggared and acted less than happy to be there because she had been learning daily how major sponsors were dropping like flies. To all you Jackie backers, take a step out of your self and really look at her over all behavior. She gets way to personal with her employees, even dates them, plays favorites, endangers lives by really pushing some large obese people past their limits, plugs her products non stop on the show, and basically shows a complete lack of management know how. Think about it when was the last time any of you made out with your boss in front of other employees!

I have to agree. Not saying everybody else was perfect.. the could all use some common sense & people skills. But yeah, you nailed it.

Thank you for expressing what I have been unable. I've been a bit conflicted about this topic over the past few days. I feel a little gullible and guilty. The supposed comment/posting from Jamie has been declared a fake and removed by Bodybuilding.com. Jamie hasn't updated her Official (and there are several Jamie Eason sites there) or her Bodybuilding.com site in ages. Then the references to no actual media/press coverage. I had taken it forgranted and at face value when I read some of the things posted here but it's true that no news outlets have talked about this nor has someone like the Susan G. Komen Foundation. A major sponsor pulling its ad campaign would make basic AP wires but nothing. I looked and looked on the Gatorade Biz site and even sent a question regarding the matter. Nothing.

Those things along with the overall anger that has taken over really made me take a step back and think. If Jamie Eason and her boyfriend haven't gone public or made statements and if the Susan G. Komen Foundation hasn't said anything, then who exactly is driving this train? One thing I kept finding as I searched for information was the same thing and comments being put out there by Brian Peeler. He's everywhere saying the same thing and yet, not one official word from Jamie and not one news agency has picked it up. Nothing. Everything has come through Brian Peeler's interviews, blog and MySpace. Those statements have been repeated on all sorts of blogs and boards and well, I guess I just think that's dangerous.

I guess ultimately, I think I really should be a bigger person. Why would I judge Jackie Warner? Who am I to judge her? I've made so many mistakes in my own life. We really don't know what happened. We simply don't. We have been getting conflicting stories but without a clear and public statement from Rich (?), Jamie's boyfriend and without documented confirmations concerning the sponsor's reactions, we're simply guessing. So I've read the past few pages a few times and just sort of have a few more thoughts (totally not assuming you care... but anyway)

--think there is some truth in the things that have been said. Although, I'm anything but a bigot- it is true that there have been more offensive indiviuals on television and it didn't bother me and I would agree that George W. Bush is much more deplorable than anything on work out. That made me laugh out loud and it did put it in perspective for me.

--For me, life is much nicer when you focus on the positive and put the positive out there. I've never believed that being negative to someone who has been rotten to me is ever going to fix the situation nor will it ever change the other person. Change by force is rarely effective. So, I'm done with the negativity. Oh yeah, and Jackie Warner never actually did anything to me personally....

--Someone pointed out that we see very little and I think that's valid. I'm willing to bet that Jackie isn't the easiest person to be around but if she was the worst human on the planet, isn't that really for her peers, family and business partners to discuss with her? So far, I haven't ever heard anything negative from any SkyLabber except Deenie and so far, not one trainer on the show has excused Deenie's behavior. They were there. I was not.

--Oh! so the time thing..... there are roughly 8,765 hours in one year. How many hours of Work Out do we see in a year? I don't even know but let's say it's between 6 & 7 minus the commercials. That's not much. I can promise you that you could get a general idea of who I am in that amount of time, but you could also put together a nice block of some very hell-fire bitchie moments.


Ummmmm... this post is so long I don't even know where I'm going with it. Hmmmm... okay, I better just wrap it up. The fact is, I watch so little television and there's so little I actually enjoy that I'm just not willing to totally give up on Work Out. I like it. I don't put it on some pedestal and use it as a life guide nor do I agree with everything that transpires but it's fun. It's eye-candy and fluff and underneath all of that, I have to admit that there was something that drew me to the show in the first place. I never wanted to like Jackie Warner.

To me, she wasn't a real trainer, she was a celeb wanna-be, she didn't have the qualifications, etc but you know what? Those are my demons. In reality, with my past a competitive athlete and my connections should have lead me down a path of much greater success and accomplishment. I won't lie. I wish I had my own SkySport. Okay, I wouldn't really make it like SkySport but I wish I would have built something that would have allowed me to reach more people and do what I love but I'm a great big chicken! Ginormous huge chicken! I'm so hung up on making sure it's perfect and right (and totally care and worry about what people thing) that I let years of hard work and training slip of away.

Jackie may not have my background but it doesn't matter. She succeeded, didn't give up and I did. So I'm owning it. I have no reason to judge Jackie. If Jamie Eason isn't going to talk about it, then why should I? And if Jackies' employees (not counting Brian) aren't going to talk about it or file a lawsuit, then why should I? They have all been there.... some for years. I've only seen Jackie Warner a few times on TV.

WHOA! Talk about some gut spillage! Sorry for that! You don't have to read, but I feel better....heh:))

I do wish we could just talk about the show that is aired and about the fluff. I like JD! He's so sweet! Jesse cracks me up! Erika is so pretty but such a mystery! See it's just supposed to be fun stuff. I don't know these people!

Should you manage through this stupidly long post, please don't tear it apart and argue my points. It's simply my opinion. I have not in anway said, You should this and you should that and you should think my way...It's just that all the negative stuff that's been flying around the past few days has made my head hurt. I have to go run now and it's freaking HOT! I don't know how the skylabbers do it. I'm fit. I run 6 days a week but if you pulled me out of bed at 5 am and put me on a beach, I would lay down in the sand.... no way... no moving.... those people are way tougher than I am. Same with the Biggest Loser people.. I've only seen it a couple of times but run around a horse track with weights on? Ummm, no.

EDIT!! Didn't proof and giving up on trying to edit. Please excuse any weird wording or typos...

I don't nessarily agree with everything you said. On the show Jackie admitted something was said & I think she should say sorry for whatever part she played, even if that's just allowing it to be said & acting like it wasn't a big deal. Also the Propell bottles are blocked out, we can't arguee that. However I love your thought out, not yelling, peaceful way of putting it. Thanks for your opion!

Well I still feel the way I did after watching last weeks episode with my own 2 eye's, pissed off. Jackie has been behaving badly for some time but hey it was TV and everyone on the show knew what they were getting into. If Jackie and her employee's wanted to sleep with each other hey that's their decision but it doesn't make it right. If you want to honer Jackie as a role model in the gay and lesbian community then you also have to bear the burden when she starts acting like crap.

I see a lot of people trying to spin what happen last week for diff reasons. Some just because Jackie is gay and they feel a unconditional loyalty to her, personally I find that really sad. Others are trying to makes us believe that what we have seen with our own 2 eyes isn't really what happen or it doesn't matter because the client in question had her breasts done only for cosmetic reasons.

Why aren't we reading about our outrage all over the news media, well simply put turns out a lot of people don't seem to watch the show or care. I have spoken to at least 30 diff people about the out rage I felt after last weeks show and they never even heard of the show. Although now they are aware of how Jackie and Bravo have been acting.

Judge for your self, use your own mind and remember what you have seen and herd with your own eyes and ears. Please join me in removing Bravo's channel from you cable box using parental controls. Workout is a crap show pushing trash and what would that say about me if i was to say I was fan.

I take it that you did not, as I did, phone the company directly? Since you need some additional help please feel free to contact them directly @ Gatorade

P.O. Box 049003

Chicago, IL 60604-9003


1.800.88.GATOR (1.800.884.2867)

Weekdays from 8:30 am to 4:30 pm CST

The CS rep for Gatorade I spoke with did not know anything at first, put me on hold, then came back and read a statement VERY similar to what is being published here.

I have been unable to reach someone from Olivia and the SoyJoy representative I spoke with on the phone (actually their parent company rep) stated only that the matter was under investigation.

Great post, thanks for sharing your thoughts - I think a lot of us (I know I do) share many of them.

My personal thoughts would be;

1. My thoughts on this issue have never been that I have expected anyone to be perfect (acknowledging that I am far from that myself) and that we are all human and so incapable of perfection or anything close to it. I do, however, think we are capable of decency and treating eachother well and at least owning up to it and trying to make it right when we fall short of treating eachother as we ought.

2. I am not saying this is what has happened but, if I were Jamie, I would not have done more than post the truth in my blog as she appears to have done. I would have been embarassed enough about the whole episode and would not have wanted to add to the embarassment by going to the press and having it published in the newspapers!

3. Everyone should do what they think is best in this matter and should not be harassed about thier decision. I do not ask anyone to do anything they do not want to do or that they are uncomfortable doing. If they want to watch the show, no harm, no foul, it is a free country, watch the show and enjoy it! I only ask that I be allowed the same consideration even if my choice differs from thiers.

4. This is my personal belief: If I see someone treated badly I should not have to wait until that person treats me badly to do something about it. Bullies will not stop, unless people say "no!" (or unless they "pick on someone thier own size", which they rarely do). If I have some power (for example, as a consumer) and I choose to use it to benefit those who are being victimized by a bully, I feel it my duty to do so. This is my personal belief, I do not ask others to do it, but also will not give up my power to do what I can just because others don't like it or don't want me to do it. We each must choose what we will or will not do, and allow others to make their own choices too.

5. Bravo Network looses integrity in my eyes increasingly the longer it goes without acknowledging this matter and addressing it openly. As with Miss (or Ms. if you prefer) Warner/Waddell had the matter been delt with openly and honestly from the beginning, there would have been no problem. Bravo faces the same choice in my opinion.

Things have turned nasty the past few days, but I would submit that at least 90% of it has NOT come from the people who have been posting about their concerns about the show (the posts are there for all to review and form their own opinion on). People have come and made all sorts of personal attacks and accusations and for the most part have been met with civility. It is my hope that the civility will continue, as well as the humor. Peace and cookies to all!

This is a GREAT POST

Thank you muchly! Cookie for you!

I have to second something dobey said.

"Why aren't we reading about our outrage all over the news media, well simply put turns out a lot of people don't seem to watch the show or care."

This show has a very small audience compared to other Bravo shows like Top Chef and Project Runway.

Dacia(Jackie) asked this earlier:

"If your little angry mob was so successful than why haven't any legit news outlets reported on it? Why not even a lesser Entertainment Show?"

Sorry to deflate that massive ego Dacia(Jackie), but they don't care HONEY! Your show is not even on their radar. They are full up with talking about people and shows their audience cares about.

Somehow I don't think the average CNN viewer is concerned with what happened on Workout last night and how the sponsors are running. Now if your name was Oprah, or Ellen or Sponge Bob for that matter, people might care.

On the other hand, Bravo is one of the few channels I watch and so I do care.

I want to say I really appreciate that you took the time to express your opinion without any hostility towards others who feel differently. I heard that Jamie had to sign a release to be on the show, we have no idea what was all in that contract agreement. I do imagine there probably was a "gag" clause. I have heard Peeler say that in his contract there are certain things he can not disclose. (These would be contracts with Bravo which is a sub of NBC. Jackie probably has also been gagged in some way, that is why she avoided the questions about this years Work Out when asked on NBC's Today Show. I have a feeling she in not allowed to go onto other shows on other networks and talk either because of contractual arrangements. I imagine the lawyers are having a field day with this one. This whole thing involves contracts with trainers and SkySport and Lab, contracts with trainers and Bravo, contracts with SkySport and Lab and Bravo, contracts with Jackie and Bravo. I imagine there are many between all of Jackie's product lines and Bravo. The contracts could also include NBC as they are Bravo's parent company. I am sure more contracts are out there that I have not even thought of too. I imagine there are so many contracts involved with this all they could fill up half of the National Archives.

My concerns are:
1. If Jamie is that important in the fitness world and had to sign a release contract to appear on the show, I do not understand why Jackie did not recognize her. (Releases are very common and always used to my knowledge.)
2. That Jackie would permit Lisa to talk poorly about Jamie's body in front of her is not professional.
3. I feel Jackie needed to discuss the situation with Peeler about Lisa and her conversation. (We know this is true because Lisa put it in her blog and apologized for making the remarks. She also stated that Jackie made some remarks also.) I feel to dismiss him the way she did was not professional.
4. In the next show she discussed in a non-professional manner what she considered pertinent about Peeler with a client. It would have been better served if she had just stated Peeler was no longer with SkySport and Lab, period nothing more.
5. I feel some of Jackie's behavior with her employees has been less that professional. I feel if Jackie had been a male, her employees would have had her in court for harrassment.

These are but a few points of my concern. I won't even touch on the Deenie with Gregg and the other SkyLab Clients debacles.

I will add that I do think Propel/Gaterade pulled their support because their product has been removed from the Work Out home page and smudged on the program tape last week. Other viewers have said other sponsors have removed their products from the Work Out home page and other places.

I feel some of the points you have made are valid and I will investigate for myself. As I said before, thank you for your imput.

To lazy to proof read too.

I might be wrong about this. We need to realize that Bravo is owned

by NBC. NBC is affliated with MSNBC news outlet. Former Court TV

now Tru TV is owned by NBC. I have seen how since about 1995

news outlets seem to take their lead from MSNBC. Except maybe FOX

and CNN but then we are in a contentious Primary season as well.

It doesn't take rocket science to see the media is now controllable.

Maybe this story is being saved for a better moment, maybe it is waiting

for a MORE explosive bombshell to go off perhaps the hinted out

removal of a few other trainers who seem to be getting on Jackie's

nerves, her words not mine. This story is not as big news as some

might think. Susan B Komen may not be interested in this because

it is more fundraising for research. Once you become a big foundation

you have to pick your battles. This is about perception and perhaps

the people who run it just are ready to put their two cents out there.

I don't believe our anger is misplaced. We all know how badly it is

to be bullied and this is what Jackie has been doing. Bullying people.

I didn't start this reaction, I have just been a part of it. Is this the sort

of story that the media will jump on regardless of what else is going on

in the world? 50,000 People maybe died from an Earthquake in China.

As I said before, the Primarys. Isn't this story something that a wait

and see attitude might be the answer to WHY no media coverage?

There has been some coverage on some websites. Who Knows.

Should we stop what we are doing because the mainstream media hasn't

covered it yet? Do protestors go home just because the media ignores

them?

Kari Ana

AND ANOTHER THING!!

Since the "Trainers" Board is unavailable, I'll post this here. I hope you all don't mind.
On, I think it was the second episode of this season several of the trainers went to lunch. I remember Mr. Peeler, Mr. Brune (Jesse) Ms. Cardon (Rebecca), I think Ms. Jacobsen (Erika) (I think might have been others, but I only recall with clarity this one exchange). They were discussing Ms. Warner's realationship with "younger" Briana (I don't know her last name).
As they were winding up, Mr. Brune tells this joke (in fact, I think he told it twice during this one episode) "Why do women wear make-up and perfume?"
Answer: "Because they're ugly and they stink!". Ms. Cordon laughed ...sort of...Mr. Peeler offered his normal off color "What age was the boy that told you that one?".....I wondered if any other women were offended by that joke?
If he were straight and a massagonist, would that joke be funny or merely offensive.
If that is the case, then it's ok for Mr. Brune to make those remarks because he's into men?
It hit me wrong, and I've been sitting on it since.
Comments?
Gypsy in FL

Hi there Gypsy in FL.

Personally I just thought the joke was dumb. I did not consider it funny I thought it was stupid. I attached no specific importance to it. Because Jessie has never been one of my favorites on the show, I just called it a stupid Jessie Joke.

I have received an email from GLAAD and they assure me that the program Work Out is the nominee for two GLAAD Media Award not Jackie. It nominated the program because of its inclusion and portrayal of several gay and lesbian trainers and clients.

I know this question is based in last season but...

I think Doug was training a singer before she continued in the business, does anyone know how she is doing with her singing career?

I would like to get to the bottom of the supposed comment made by Jamie Eason on bodybuilding.com that was posted to the Bravo forums. It has been alleged that this was a fake post. Maybe.

If you go to Jamie's BodySpace page at bodybuilding.com:

http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/JamieEason/

Look on the left bar under the section where it says activity. You will see Last Forum Post May 9, 2008 10:10am...however when you click on that link the post has obviously been pulled and you get "Invalid Thread specified."

So obviously a post was made on her account and subsequently deleted. Very interesting.

I wish Jamie and Rich could speak openly about this issue, but apparently they must be under some kind of contract. So we basically have Peeler's word against Jackie's word. Jackie says she said nothing and Peeler said she said things about Jamie and himself. I guess it's up to each individual to decide who is more credible. BTW we also have Lisa's comment "Her boyfriend was totally cool and understood, but wanted an apology from Jackie and not on behalf of her, as he overheard her making comments as well."

Let's assume Jackie is telling the truth. To me it's almost as bad that she let her office manager say rude things about a client unchecked. In my opinion, it speaks volumes about how LieSport is run. If I was "Morbidly Obese" I would never want to go work out in such an environment. In reality, I don't think LieSport wants overweight people to work out there regularly, because it hurts their image too much. She should have repremanded Lisa and apologized to Rich and Jamie on behalf of her gym and employees. Instead she blows it off as no big deal.

One last thing. What kind of ego case does Jackie have to be to charge $400 per hour? Does anyone really pay that? All the other trainers cost around $100, with the Work Out show trainers listed as $110

Let's compare...So if I paid Jackie for training 3 hours per week for 1 year it would cost me $62,400....But if I paid Agostina(or any of the other regular trainers at LieSport) it would cost me $17,160 for the year at 3 workouts per week. Wow! You're telling me Jackie's training over the year is worth $45,240 more than Agostinas? Would my body be $45,240 better if Jackie trained me vs Agostina. What a joke.

He was training Jody Watley

Not really on topic, there is a psychic in the San Francisco Area who

charges 750.00 dollars an hour with a two year waiting period for an

appointment.

Kari Ana

Thanks

WOW!!!, gee thes pages are starting to resemble the DEAD SEA SCROLLS....(ha ha ..just kidding) Just came from Andy cohen's blog. it says. If you watched WORKOUT last night ," Please leave a comment below."...get over there guys...You know what to do..Give the man what he asked for......COMMENTS. Lots of people , telling him sorry i am boycotting, and these are the reasons why.etc etc

Well Dang! That kinda sucks! I pay $750.00 to hear what happened to me during the two years I waited for the appointment?

Everyone in here who believes in telekenesis and thinks that's a raw deal too - raise my hand!


Hey, I'm making homemade oatmeal cookies with butterscotch chips in em this weekend. I'll squeeze the calories out through cheesecloth befor baking.

Send any grumpy folks my way and I'll put a smile on their faces.

Ya know, that post earlier about the comment from GLAAD kinda bugs me. I include gays and lesbians in all kinds of things and never get nominated...and I make a darned fine oatmeal cookie!!! Where's the justice!

I make outmeal cookies with Cranberries. Yummy.

I am catching the flu so I might be dingy and few and

far between posts. I wander to bed, and then wander

back to the computer back to bed.

Don't forget the new group ProPeelerBuilt@yahoogroups.com for

all of us to keep our discussions going.

Kari Ana

Kari! Buubela! You want I should send you some chicken soup! Take care sweetie...got to bed and get some rest!!!!!

Or a Jackie Warner EGO bar.

Can I talk you into putting chocolate chips in those cookies instead of butterscotch? See, its not that I have anything against butterscotch or anything, its just that it has been a "gosh I kinda need me some chocolate" kind of week! Pretty Please?

Gack!

Or a Jackie Warner EGO bar. From the lesbian WILLIE WONKA herself

OK...Chocolate chips in your batch!

Hey did anyone get any responses back from any other sposors? So far, I've received some cool replies from SoyJoy, Gatorade/Propell, and Olivia.

I have to admit that I honestly feel sorry for JW...all she had to do was stand up and be the professional she said she was and I bet this all could have been a lot easier on her...Bravo too.

Someone posted earlier that she was on the Today Show and looked a bit stressed, but didn't talk about any of this stuff. There's no way she couldn't have read a lot of what's being written in here...or at least heard about it from others...geeze, I would hate to be in her position right now...gotta be tough...especially since its about suffering the consequences for poor choices of behavior...what could she have been thinking when she signed the contracts to do a show that comes into her establishment with cameras knowing that everything she says and does for the duration of taping would be put under a microscope of someone else's viewpoint of what would make for 'Good TV'.

Geeze...it's good to be 'Average'. I won't ever have to worry about being put in her position...and I sincerely doubt I'll ever command the salary she received for all of this in my chosen profession, but if she were in here right now, one of the questions I would really want to ask her would be "Is a lot of money enough of a perk to allow yourself to be set up like this? Was it worth it?" ...and of course my last question to her would be "Do you want a cookie?"

You are a wise woman. Wouldn't the world be a better place if we all were just kind enough to offer eachother a cookie? There is not much basic kindness happening in the world today, what a shame. Was there really more when we were kids, or is my memory just growing more sentimental with time?

Kindness ain't dead...it's just not worthy of reality TV :-)

Heaven forbid everyone tries to make at least one random act of kindness on a daily basis, or laugh at something really funny, or say Hi to a stranger walking past, or smile at someone at first glance-just because- no reason behind it - just a simple smile.

Thanks for the 'wise' adjective at me. I'm not sure if its deserved, but I am definitely 'simple'. I live a simple life, with simple beliefs about how to treat others. I stand behind my motives for being a part of this group - push for common decency and I betcha 'Human Rights' (what the folks on my side of the sexual preference scale are fighting for) will follow.

Oh, have to interject a political victory for others of my kind - We can get married in California now!!! (ok, not all of us at the same time, to each other, but you know what I mean)

Okay is it possible I caught your flu? I woke up this morning with chills, 103 fever and yup you guessed it, sick as a dog....I've slept most of the day thank goodness because my head feels like it's going to explode and I can't lift it from the pillow. I'm actually eating toast and drinking ginger ale right now, it's almost 11:00 PM here while I watch The Number 23 lol....