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Lorizh
QUOTE (ohiofarmgirl @ May 15, 2008 - 10:33 PM) *
OK...Chocolate chips in your batch!

Hey did anyone get any responses back from any other sposors? So far, I've received some cool replies from SoyJoy, Gatorade/Propell, and Olivia.

I have to admit that I honestly feel sorry for JW...all she had to do was stand up and be the professional she said she was and I bet this all could have been a lot easier on her...Bravo too.

Someone posted earlier that she was on the Today Show and looked a bit stressed, but didn't talk about any of this stuff. There's no way she couldn't have read a lot of what's being written in here...or at least heard about it from others...geeze, I would hate to be in her position right now...gotta be tough...especially since its about suffering the consequences for poor choices of behavior...what could she have been thinking when she signed the contracts to do a show that comes into her establishment with cameras knowing that everything she says and does for the duration of taping would be put under a microscope of someone else's viewpoint of what would make for 'Good TV'.

Geeze...it's good to be 'Average'. I won't ever have to worry about being put in her position...and I sincerely doubt I'll ever command the salary she received for all of this in my chosen profession, but if she were in here right now, one of the questions I would really want to ask her would be "Is a lot of money enough of a perk to allow yourself to be set up like this? Was it worth it?" ...and of course my last question to her would be "Do you want a cookie?"


Don't feel bad for Warner! She made her bed, now she can lie in it. She is going to be just fine, she just won't have her television show (if in fact Bravo wants to keep their viewers). She wasn't set up either, she was caught.

Can I hold off on that cookie, I'm really sick sad.gif
NiCi
QUOTE (ohiofarmgirl @ May 15, 2008 - 10:59 PM) *
Kindness ain't dead...it's just not worthy of reality TV :-)

Heaven forbid everyone tries to make at least one random act of kindness on a daily basis, or laugh at something really funny, or say Hi to a stranger walking past, or smile at someone at first glance-just because- no reason behind it - just a simple smile.

Thanks for the 'wise' adjective at me. I'm not sure if its deserved, but I am definitely 'simple'. I live a simple life, with simple beliefs about how to treat others. I stand behind my motives for being a part of this group - push for common decency and I betcha 'Human Rights' (what the folks on my side of the sexual preference scale are fighting for) will follow.

Oh, have to interject a political victory for other of my kind - We can get married in California now!!! (ok, not all of us at the same time, to each other, but you know what I mean)


Wise and witty, what a combo!
And, yes, wise is deserved. People think things are complicated, and try to make them so. But really things are quite simple. It is only the truly wise that can see it!
Lorizh
QUOTE (WONDER WOMAN @ May 15, 2008 - 10:08 PM) *
Or a Jackie Warner EGO bar. From the lesbian WILLIE WONKA herself



laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
WONDER WOMAN
QUOTE (pwb02 @ May 14, 2008 - 10:27 AM) *



Have you all had a chance to see this??? this was filmed by a guy that was pitching the idea of a reality show aboout a gym to bravo and networks..he made similar clips of other gyms...i understand that when they chose Sky sport for the job, that evenually was named WORKOUT, that Jackie bought JILLIAN MICHAELS out. boy I'll bet that Jillian is glad that she did... this was just recently posted on UTUBE about a month or so ago. ENJOY! notice Tiffani, and Erin... rolleyes.gif ..
NiCi
QUOTE (Lorizh @ May 15, 2008 - 11:02 PM) *
Okay is it possible I caught your flu? sad.gif I woke up this morning with chills, 103 fever and yup you guessed it, sick as a dog....I've slept most of the day thank goodness because my head feels like it's going to explode and I can't lift it from the pillow. I'm actually eating toast and drinking ginger ale right now, it's almost 11:00 PM here while I watch The Number 23 lol....

Make sure you keep drinking lots of liquids (dehydration is the worst! so really try, ginger ale is a great option!), and get some sleep! Have you seen your Dr.? Maybe you should with such a high temp. Feel better!
ohiofarmgirl
QUOTE (Lorizh @ May 15, 2008 - 08:06 PM) *
Don't feel bad for Warner! She made her bed, now she can lie in it. She is going to be just fine, she just won't have her television show (if in fact Bravo wants to keep their viewers). She wasn't set up either, she was caught.

Can I hold off on that cookie, I'm really sick sad.gif


Ruh Roh....Hey, there's an old remedy for feelin pukey that might help. If you have some Coke in the fridge, open one, let it go flat, then pour some over ice chips and sip at it. Works to calm the pukey feelin nasties of sickness.

Hope ya feel beter soon!
Lorizh
QUOTE (Dacia @ May 15, 2008 - 01:57 AM) *
Well I guess you guys better get fired up and ready! Flipping Out starts in June and that guy is a total as*hole, mean and degrading! I'm sure the morality police are preparing to have the show banned? Uh-huh. We'll see.



HELL NO!! I love Jeff whatshisname, he's a trip to watch! lol

However, if he ever dares tells "a few bad jokes" regarding a breast cancer survivors breast, then I'll start writing the letters but thanks for the heads up smile.gif
WONDER WOMAN
QUOTE (ohiofarmgirl @ May 15, 2008 - 10:59 PM) *
Kindness ain't dead...it's just not worthy of reality TV :-)

Heaven forbid everyone tries to make at least one random act of kindness on a daily basis, or laugh at something really funny, or say Hi to a stranger walking past, or smile at someone at first glance-just because- no reason behind it - just a simple smile.

Thanks for the 'wise' adjective at me. I'm not sure if its deserved, but I am definitely 'simple'. I live a simple life, with simple beliefs about how to treat others. I stand behind my motives for being a part of this group - push for common decency and I betcha 'Human Rights' (what the folks on my side of the sexual preference scale are fighting for) will follow.

Oh, have to interject a political victory for others of my kind - We can get married in California now!!! (ok, not all of us at the same time, to each other, but you know what I mean)


I would definitely like to ehco NICI.....you are quite SIMPLY wise, and wise....OH! and let me add generous ( baking, and offering homade message board cookies)
and yes we can get married in california. my home state.... maybe if you help your girlfriend with that cat box cleaning she,ll take ya across the border and ......
ohiofarmgirl
QUOTE (WONDER WOMAN @ May 15, 2008 - 08:11 PM) *
Have you all had a chance to see this??? this was filmed by a guy that was pitching the idea of a reality show aboout a gym to bravo and networks..he made similar clips of other gyms...i understand that when they chose Sky sport for the job, that evenually was named WORKOUT, that Jackie bought JILLIAN MICHAELS out. boy I'll bet that Jillian is glad that she did... this was just recently posted on UTUBE about a month or so ago. ENJOY! notice Tiffani, and Erin... rolleyes.gif ..


Holy Moley! If you put the cast of the show into the perspective of the trainers depicted in the commercial...it really is as bad as they show it...WOW!!!! How long ago was this aired? My level of pity for JW just dropped a notch.
ohiofarmgirl
QUOTE (WONDER WOMAN @ May 15, 2008 - 08:20 PM) *
I would definitely like to ehco NICI.....you are quite SIMPLY wise, and wise....OH! and let me add generous ( baking, and offering homade message board cookies)
and yes we can get married in california. my home state.... maybe if you help your girlfriend with that cat box cleaning she,ll take ya across the border and ......


LOL... I LOVE you immensly too Wonder! Let's all git hitched! I can't promise I'll help more with the kitty litter pans, but I will promise not to squeeze the toothpaste tube from the middle. My significant something-or-other is yellin at me right now to quit playin on the computer. I just yelled back to pack up the anmibals in the U-HAUL. We're headin to Caleefornee to git hitched...and we're marryin WONDERWOMAN. I'll pack my shotgun so its official!!!! (Hey we're startin to look like mormons with this group marriage thing goin on. Ya think they'd let us join their commune?) (((Please, no offense intended to any Mormons out there. Just looking for ways to fit in with y'all)))
WONDER WOMAN
QUOTE (ohiofarmgirl @ May 15, 2008 - 11:30 PM) *
Holy Moley! If you put the cast of the show into the perspective of the trainers depicted in the commercial...it really is as bad as they show it...WOW!!!! How long ago was this aired? My level of pity for JW just dropped a notch.



My guess is 4 or so years ago... can you imagine those two ALPHA girls fighting for supremacy???????? I think Jillian is one HOT little number.....
Noel Rae
QUOTE (ohiofarmgirl @ May 15, 2008 - 08:36 PM) *
Everyone in here who believes in telekenesis and thinks that's a raw deal too - raise my hand!



I swear Ohio, everytime you are on here you bust me up. Man if I lived closer I'd look ya'll up & buy you a drink. You are too funny!
ohiofarmgirl
QUOTE (WONDER WOMAN @ May 15, 2008 - 08:44 PM) *
My guess is 4 or so years ago... can you imagine those two ALPHA girls fighting for supremacy???????? I think Jillian is one HOT little number.....


One Hot number...AND simply wise enough to run towards something with more of a positive light...dang, who's the better business woman now?
WONDER WOMAN
QUOTE (ohiofarmgirl @ May 15, 2008 - 11:38 PM) *
LOL... I LOVE you immensly too Wonder! Let's all git hitched! I can't promise I'll help more with the kitty litter pans, but I will promise not to squeeze the toothpaste tube from the middle. My significant something-or-other is yellin at me right now to quit playin on the computer. I just yelled back to pack up the anmibals in the U-HAUL. We're headin to Caleefornee to git hitched...and we're marryin WONDERWOMAN. I'll pack my shotgun so its official!!!! (Hey we're startin to look like mormons with this group marriage thing goin on. Ya think they'd let us join their commune?) (((Please, no offense intended to any Mormons out there. Just looking for ways to fit in with y'all)))



Thanks baby, we can be friends ..........BUT....... I hear tell that my girl Jody Foster is single after 14 years.... ............
ohiofarmgirl
QUOTE (Noel Rae @ May 15, 2008 - 08:48 PM) *
I swear Ohio, everytime you are on here you bust me up. Man if I lived closer I'd look ya'll up & buy you a drink. You are too funny!


I currently reside in Arizona (land of dry heat) Take the 3rd dirt road past the 7th Saguaro (pronounce saw-war-oh) cactus with six arms, then turn left at the 1st cholla (pronounced choy-yah) you see growing up out of the arroyo (looks like it sounds), the house is about half-mile up the road (dirt track).

Kick yer shoes off. Beer's in the fridge. Cookies are on the counter. Set a spell, relax....welcome to here :-) Anytime sweetie.

Tried to give you phoenetics to keep you from sounding like a tourist. The locals pick on ya for that, but it's all in fun.
ohiofarmgirl
QUOTE (WONDER WOMAN @ May 15, 2008 - 08:55 PM) *
Thanks baby, we can be friends ..........BUT....... I hear tell that my girl Jody Foster is single after 14 years.... ............


~gasp!~ Dang...I'f I weren't already taken by the sweetest thing this side of the Mississippi, I'd be competing with you for that one!
WONDER WOMAN
QUOTE (ohiofarmgirl @ May 16, 2008 - 12:02 AM) *
~gasp!~ Dang...I'f I weren't already taken by the sweetest thing this side of the Mississippi, I'd be competing with you for that one!




ya know, Jody is gettin' divorced after 14 years because her girlfriend got sick of telling her to get the hell off that ole computer, and help her with that nasty smelly ole cat box........somethin' for you to think about rolleyes.gif
go to the after ellen site, and read BADMACHINE recap of Workout, from LAST WEEK> YOU KNOW, THE PEELER FIRING. LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.....( i laugh so hard at her recaps for 3 years now..Never fails tears come rolling down my cheeks, i literally laugh so hard my sides ache. LAUGHTER is a really good thing
truereality
QUOTE (dobey @ May 15, 2008 - 06:06 PM) *
I see a lot of people trying to spin what happen last week for diff reasons. Some just because Jackie is gay and they feel a unconditional loyalty to her, personally I find that really sad. Others are trying to makes us believe that what we have seen with our own 2 eyes isn't really what happen or it doesn't matter because the client in question had her breasts done only for cosmetic reasons.


No. People have come down on Jackie because she is a lesbian. They want her to submit to their demands. I have seen this movie plenty of times.

Lisa the one that made the comments apologized for them. The boyfriend of Jaime Eason rightfully intervened when he heard the comments. If he had the balls to intervene don't you think he would have also asked Jackie for an apology if he thought one was needed? The fact is the situation was settled. Brian Peeler wanted to start trouble like usual. Finally Jackie had enough of his insubordination and justly fired him.

Please support Work Out and Jackie Warner by signing this petition. Thank You.
http://www.petitiononline.com/adga2343/petition.html
Ali_G
QUOTE (truereality @ May 16, 2008 - 12:29 AM) *
No. People have come down on Jackie because she is a lesbian. They want her to submit to their demands. I have seen this movie plenty of times.

Lisa the one that made the comments apologized for them. The boyfriend of Jaime Eason rightfully intervened when he heard the comments. If he had the balls to intervene don't you think he would have also asked Jackie for an apology if he thought one was needed? The fact is the situation was settled. Brian Peeler wanted to start trouble like usual. Finally Jackie had enough of his insubordination and justly fired him.

Please support Work Out and Jackie Warner by signing this petition. Thank You.
http://www.petitiononline.com/adga2343/petition.html

The single most naive and paranoid comment I've read on the topic.

Coming down on Jackie has nothing to do with her being gay. It has to do with her being a hypocrite and a liar. She talks about others, like Peeler, needing to be respectful and professional, yet she does not display that behavior. She out and out lied about making comments about Jamie Eason and Lisa outed her on that. She won't own up to that and take any responsibility for that incident with Jamie Eason, or her role in escalating the discussion with Peeler into what it became.

There was nothing insubordinate about Peeler calmly going to Jackie privately and trying to find out why she disrespected his friend. Jackie Warner does not deserve support on this issue. She has made her bed and now she has to lie in it.

Ali
clarakotka
Finally! I've had some troubles getting onto the boards but have been keeping track of the activities! Hello all!

First let me state definitively that while no individual is perfect and we've all made comments we regret, the fact is we regret them and then act accordingly with apologies and modifications to our behavior. This is true regardless of sexual orientation or gender. This is where my disgust with Jackie really surges.

Wipe your mouth, Jackie, there's still a little b*llsh*t around the corners.

Second, I would completely support a Peeler show! wub.gif *le sigh*

Last, Deenie ... oh Deenie ... Greg treated her horribly and she was rightfully upset. She had legitimate complaints. However, there is something a little off-kilter about her. I don't know what went down on the latest episode, I was performing that evening but I doubt I would've watched. I feel strongly that this show needs to put to rest.
I just can't give up Top Chef, though. I'm addicted to the cheftestants. (Go Richard!)

Thank you, fellow viewer friends and feel better soon! There's flu going on over here, too.
d1gth1s
QUOTE (truereality @ May 16, 2008 - 12:29 AM) *
No. People have come down on Jackie because she is a lesbian. They want her to submit to their demands. I have seen this movie plenty of times.

Lisa the one that made the comments apologized for them. The boyfriend of Jaime Eason rightfully intervened when he heard the comments. If he had the balls to intervene don't you think he would have also asked Jackie for an apology if he thought one was needed? The fact is the situation was settled. Brian Peeler wanted to start trouble like usual. Finally Jackie had enough of his insubordination and justly fired him.


truereality...Please stop already. You're wasting your time here.

And I Quote Lisa:

"I apologized for the exact words I used immediately after her boyfriend walked out of the office. Her boyfriend was totally cool and understood, but wanted an apology from Jackie and not on behalf of her, as he overheard her making comments as well. I believe Jamie and Peeler wanted the same, which is why he confronted Jackie in her office"


Here's the link to Lisa's Bravo blog with this quote in case you think I plucked this idea from some magic, lesbian hating fairy land.

http://www.bravotv.com/Work_Out/season/3/b...lisa_304_images

Just out yourself already...which LieSnorter are you? Is that you Jesse? I wonder...

Now I guess you want to say Lisa is a LIAR and she is "come(ing) down on Jackie because she is a lesbian" and "They(Lisa) want(s) her to submit to their(Lisa's) demands".

Oh...did I put words in your mouth?

This lesbian hating line that truereality, Dacia, and Jack123 are preaching is just comedy. I can see these 3 CryForters ploting their talking points.

Lesbian hating...check
Jackie jealousy...check
Don't you losers have anything better to do...check
JCpalmsprings
Ditto

I am a Gay Man and have many Lesbian Friends here, In fact most of these lesbians have a valid point of a positive role model that Jackie has been Labeled with, Advocate, Out Magazine, Womens fitness....

If you were to see most of our chat today it was about Cookies and Illness...

I just stooped to a new low by responding to these few Pro-Lesbians and Gays crying everyones out to get us.
Cry me a river I am so Gay and Flaming! My smoke alarms going off....
QUOTE (d1gth1s @ May 16, 2008 - 12:51 AM) *
truereality...Please stop already. You're wasting your time here.

And I Quote Lisa:

"I apologized for the exact words I used immediately after her boyfriend walked out of the office. Her boyfriend was totally cool and understood, but wanted an apology from Jackie and not on behalf of her, as he overheard her making comments as well. I believe Jamie and Peeler wanted the same, which is why he confronted Jackie in her office"


Here's the link to Lisa's Bravo blog with this quote in case you think I plucked this idea from some magic, lesbian hating fairy land.

http://www.bravotv.com/Work_Out/season/3/b...lisa_304_images

Just out yourself already...which LieSnorter are you? Is that you Jesse? I wonder...

Now I guess you want to say Lisa is a LIAR and she is "come(ing) down on Jackie because she is a lesbian" and "They(Lisa) want(s) her to submit to their(Lisa's) demands".

Oh...did I put words in your mouth?

This lesbian hating line that truereality, Dacia, and Jack123 are preaching is just comedy. I can see these 3 CryForters ploting their talking points.

Lesbian hating...check
Jackie jealousy...check
Don't you losers have anything better to do...check
JCpalmsprings
Where is my cookie backing hot lesbo friend when I need her. ohiofarmgirl they are now turning on our own community and calling us names.
I love lesbians and i love my farmgirl....

Oh there are also some hot Gayboys on here that share my thoughts and the groups as well...

Take that JW and your Bravo Board Plants.....
JCpalmsprings
Last thing

I have met some heterosexual men and woman on here and they have been great. I WOULD CALL THEM FRIENDS ANYDAY.....
JCpalmsprings
Hell I would lop it off. become transgendered, take my toaster oven and become a lesbian for Jodi! She is one SMOKIN HOT WOMAN...


QUOTE (WONDER WOMAN @ May 15, 2008 - 10:55 PM) *
Thanks baby, we can be friends ..........BUT....... I hear tell that my girl Jody Foster is single after 14 years.... ............
tpsommelier
QUOTE (truereality @ May 16, 2008 - 12:29 AM) *
No. People have come down on Jackie because she is a lesbian. They want her to submit to their demands. I have seen this movie plenty of times.


laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

People have come down on Jackie because she's a lying, self-absorbed, passive aggresive [expletive deleted]. Not because she's a lesbian.

Now I don't know if you're Jackie, one of her trainers, some production monkey at Bravo, or just delusional, but please sod off.
NiCi
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 02:47 AM) *
Last thing

I have met some heterosexual men and woman on here and they have been great. I WOULD CALL THEM FRIENDS ANYDAY.....


JC

So sorry we were not here with you when the nastiness came and you had to face it all alone, and without cookies! We were all tired (or sick) and sleeping away (and I think farmgirl was packing for a road trip to California to get hitched or something?) and thought there would be no more visitors for the night (silly us)! Next time we will leave a nice big plate of cookies out for you... You can have lots yourself (and feed some to the visitors, sometimes that makes them feel better and they are not so grouchy). You want some milk with those cookies?

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fg
QUOTE (truereality @ May 15, 2008 - 10:41 AM) *
I can not stand the anti-gay bigotry, self-righteousness and downright lying I have seen in the last week because of this episode any longer. This situation has been blown out of proportion because Jackie is a strong lesbian. There has been a pattern by anti-gay bigots to bully lesbians into submission when they do something they "do not like." Remember back in 1998 when they went after Ellen after she came out? They lobbied the sponsors of her show to abandon it in an effort to force her off the air. Anti-gay bigots have continued to use that tactic ever since.

Jackie represents herself. One gay person does NOT represent all gay people. I have been hearing a lot of people saying Jackie is an embarrassment to the gay community. No, no, no. Straight people place all THEIR ideas about gay people into ONE gay person and then say they represent all gay people. It's a bigoted mindset. That's why I know this campaign is an indirect attack on gay people.

Jackie dates women. Anti-gay bigots have gone around accusing Jackie of being a predator (which is an anti-gay stereotype). All the women Jackie has dated are GROWN ADULTS. They are old enough to make decisions on their own.

Jaime Eason got breast implants for cosmetic reasons not because of cancer as the show implies. http://tinyurl.com/685spw

The hand ringing that Jackie attacked a women who lost her breasts to cancer (which Jamie Eason did not) in pure nonsense. Jackie didn't say anything about her breasts and the one that did apologized for it.

gypsyohara and fallzone, don't think your calling Jackie Ms. Warner has gone unnoticed. Anti-gay bigots use Ms. (last name) in a derogatory manner against lesbians especially older lesbians to emphasis their sexuality and martial status.

The people that say they will watch a show by Brian Peeler are liars. These are the same people that said they would watch The View when Rosie left. Yeah right!!!! The ratings have collapsed since she left.



Just in case any of you guys missed this rant yesterday...here it is in all its glory...just so no one takes Truereality too seriously...

PS...For the love of God...don't call anyone Ms.
fg
QUOTE (truereality @ May 16, 2008 - 01:29 AM) *
No. People have come down on Jackie because she is a lesbian. They want her to submit to their demands. I have seen this movie plenty of times.

Lisa the one that made the comments apologized for them. The boyfriend of Jaime Eason rightfully intervened when he heard the comments. If he had the balls to intervene don't you think he would have also asked Jackie for an apology if he thought one was needed? The fact is the situation was settled. Brian Peeler wanted to start trouble like usual. Finally Jackie had enough of his insubordination and justly fired him.

Please support Work Out and Jackie Warner by signing this petition. Thank You.
http://www.petitiononline.com/adga2343/petition.html


Well, I just checked out the petition in support of Jackie...4 signatures and climbing...Wow.
NiCi
QUOTE (fgnelson @ May 16, 2008 - 09:24 AM) *
Well, I just checked out the petition in support of Jackie...4 signatures and climbing...Wow.


Thnks for the update! biggrin.gif
over it
biggrin.gif 662 and still counting. Spread the word!

PETITION LOCATION: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/643731154
NiCi
QUOTE (pwb02 @ May 16, 2008 - 09:31 AM) *
biggrin.gif 662 and still counting. Spread the word!

PETITION LOCATION: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/643731154


Thanks for the update! biggrin.gif
V1Man
QUOTE (NiCi @ May 16, 2008 - 09:32 AM) *
Thanks for the update! biggrin.gif


As a straight producer, I could not survive in the entertainment industry if I were not pro-gay/lesbian. It is our reality. That doesn't mean I sign up to support Jackie in any situation, however. I've met both Brian and Jackie socially and found them likable; I've known Rebecca since 2005 when I co-sponsored a charity event in which she participated. She is everything in real life that she is on-camera on Work Out.

I've thought some of Jackie's behavior during the past two seasons was odd -- perhaps even quirky -- but likely an editing choice for the resulting drama involved. When the show didn't appear on BRAVO in January as many of us in the trade expected, I suspected something was afoot. The May 6th episode convinced me that I was correct. Trainwreck television! I wonder if BRAVO and the produciton company tried to do damage control with sponsors before the season began? It doesn't appear they did, which is in bold print in "TV Production 101 for Dummies."

Now to my reaction, should anyone beside my mother care...

Jackie's blog denial stands in stark contrast to Jamie Eason and her boyfriend's account of events. Lisa's own blog differs as well. The preponderance of the evidence goes against Jackie. Our legal counsel says its not even a grey area, that Peeler, if not for his TV contract, would have an easy case against Sky Sport under Calif. labor law.

I'm not signing the petition because I believe it penalizes too many good people -- others in the cast and the production company who boldly gave us the video. Cancelling Work Out harms too many innocents and simply seems vindictive. Jackie, however, simply must go.

Let's bring the real owner of Sky Sport to the show -- Jillian Michaels, the wonderful trainer from "Bggest Loser." Anyone who watches that show and follows Jillian, knows she is a dedicated and caring professional. My guess is the first thing Jillian would do is to give Brian a hug.

I'm sure I'll now be hated by both sides... just like in high school wacko.gif
fg
QUOTE (V1Man @ May 16, 2008 - 11:15 AM) *
As a straight producer, I could not survive in the entertainment industry if I were not pro-gay/lesbian. It is our reality. That doesn't mean I sign up to support Jackie in any situation, however. I've met both Brian and Jackie socially and found them likable; I've known Rebecca since 2005 when I co-sponsored a charity event in which she participated. She is everything in real life that she is on-camera on Work Out.

I've thought some of Jackie's behavior during the past two seasons was odd -- perhaps even quirky -- but likely an editing choice for the resulting drama involved. When the show didn't appear on BRAVO in January as many of us in the trade expected, I suspected something was afoot. The May 6th episode convinced me that I was correct. Trainwreck television! I wonder if BRAVO and the produciton company tried to do damage control with sponsors before the season began? It doesn't appear they did, which is in bold print in "TV Production 101 for Dummies."

Now to my reaction, should anyone beside my mother care...

Jackie's blog denial stands in stark contrast to Jamie Eason and her boyfriend's account of events. Lisa's own blog differs as well. The preponderance of the evidence goes against Jackie. Our legal counsel says its not even a grey area, that Peeler, if not for his TV contract, would have an easy case against Sky Sport under Calif. labor law.

I'm not signing the petition because I believe it penalizes too many good people -- others in the cast and the production company who boldly gave us the video. Cancelling Work Out harms too many innocents and simply seems vindictive. Jackie, however, simply must go.

Let's bring the real owner of Sky Sport to the show -- Jillian Michaels, the wonderful trainer from "Bggest Loser." Anyone who watches that show and follows Jillian, knows she is a dedicated and caring professional. My guess is the first thing Jillian would do is to give Brian a hug.

I'm sure I'll now be hated by both sides... just like in high school wacko.gif



I agree with you on most points. I am truly amazed that BravoTv has totally ignored this scandal by not responding to viewers in any way.

I'm all for continuing to watch Work Out as long as Jackie and Lisa are not a part of it. Ms. Warner has just become a monster. She's uncomfortable to watch.

Bring on Jillian and Brian. tongue.gif rolleyes.gif wink.gif
Noel Rae
QUOTE (V1Man @ May 16, 2008 - 10:15 AM) *
...Let's bring the real owner of Sky Sport to the show -- Jillian Michaels, the wonderful trainer from "Bggest Loser." Anyone who watches that show and follows Jillian, knows she is a dedicated and caring professional. My guess is the first thing Jillian would do is to give Brian a hug.

I'm sure I'll now be hated by both sides... just like in high school wacko.gif


Are you kidding? I, & I think a lot of other people, would LOVE that idea!! Someone should of thought of that earlier. GREAT IDEA!
fg
Oh, and BTW, If Bravo does finally take a stand and at the very least remove Jackie Warner and Lisa from the show, I will happily rewrite every single sponsor requesting that they reinstate their sponsorship.
Noel Rae
QUOTE (fgnelson @ May 16, 2008 - 10:39 AM) *
Oh, and BTW, If Bravo does finally take a stand and at the very least remove Jackie Warner and Lisa from the show, I will happily rewrite every single sponsor requesting that they reinstate their sponsorship.



I'm right there with you on that one! I don't hate the show, I hate what it has become. Redemption is always possiable!
swiss74
QUOTE (Noel Rae @ May 16, 2008 - 10:43 AM) *
I'm right there with you on that one! I don't hate the show, I hate what it has become. Redemption is always possiable!


Me to.
NiCi
QUOTE (V1Man @ May 16, 2008 - 11:15 AM) *
As a straight producer, I could not survive in the entertainment industry if I were not pro-gay/lesbian. It is our reality. That doesn't mean I sign up to support Jackie in any situation, however. I've met both Brian and Jackie socially and found them likable; I've known Rebecca since 2005 when I co-sponsored a charity event in which she participated. She is everything in real life that she is on-camera on Work Out.

I've thought some of Jackie's behavior during the past two seasons was odd -- perhaps even quirky -- but likely an editing choice for the resulting drama involved. When the show didn't appear on BRAVO in January as many of us in the trade expected, I suspected something was afoot. The May 6th episode convinced me that I was correct. Trainwreck television! I wonder if BRAVO and the produciton company tried to do damage control with sponsors before the season began? It doesn't appear they did, which is in bold print in "TV Production 101 for Dummies."

Now to my reaction, should anyone beside my mother care...

Jackie's blog denial stands in stark contrast to Jamie Eason and her boyfriend's account of events. Lisa's own blog differs as well. The preponderance of the evidence goes against Jackie. Our legal counsel says its not even a grey area, that Peeler, if not for his TV contract, would have an easy case against Sky Sport under Calif. labor law.

I'm not signing the petition because I believe it penalizes too many good people -- others in the cast and the production company who boldly gave us the video. Cancelling Work Out harms too many innocents and simply seems vindictive. Jackie, however, simply must go.

Let's bring the real owner of Sky Sport to the show -- Jillian Michaels, the wonderful trainer from "Bggest Loser." Anyone who watches that show and follows Jillian, knows she is a dedicated and caring professional. My guess is the first thing Jillian would do is to give Brian a hug.

I'm sure I'll now be hated by both sides... just like in high school wacko.gif


V1MAN, thank you for deciding to post and share your insight on this issue. You are not at all hated (or disliked even a little bit!) by me or my part in "my side" at least! This was a great, informative post and very thoughtful and fair. I especially like how it is written honestly and thoughtfully without blame, assumptions or judgements about either side. Quite refreshing actually! Thanks for adding your valuable insight to this matter, I am truly glad that you decided to post! biggrin.gif
swiss74
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 01:47 AM) *
Last thing

I have met some heterosexual men and woman on here and they have been great. I WOULD CALL THEM FRIENDS ANYDAY.....


I hope you consider me a friend.
swiss74
QUOTE (V1Man @ May 16, 2008 - 10:15 AM) *
As a straight producer, I could not survive in the entertainment industry if I were not pro-gay/lesbian. It is our reality. That doesn't mean I sign up to support Jackie in any situation, however. I've met both Brian and Jackie socially and found them likable; I've known Rebecca since 2005 when I co-sponsored a charity event in which she participated. She is everything in real life that she is on-camera on Work Out.

I've thought some of Jackie's behavior during the past two seasons was odd -- perhaps even quirky -- but likely an editing choice for the resulting drama involved. When the show didn't appear on BRAVO in January as many of us in the trade expected, I suspected something was afoot. The May 6th episode convinced me that I was correct. Trainwreck television! I wonder if BRAVO and the produciton company tried to do damage control with sponsors before the season began? It doesn't appear they did, which is in bold print in "TV Production 101 for Dummies."

Now to my reaction, should anyone beside my mother care...

Jackie's blog denial stands in stark contrast to Jamie Eason and her boyfriend's account of events. Lisa's own blog differs as well. The preponderance of the evidence goes against Jackie. Our legal counsel says its not even a grey area, that Peeler, if not for his TV contract, would have an easy case against Sky Sport under Calif. labor law.

I'm not signing the petition because I believe it penalizes too many good people -- others in the cast and the production company who boldly gave us the video. Cancelling Work Out harms too many innocents and simply seems vindictive. Jackie, however, simply must go.

Let's bring the real owner of Sky Sport to the show -- Jillian Michaels, the wonderful trainer from "Bggest Loser." Anyone who watches that show and follows Jillian, knows she is a dedicated and caring professional. My guess is the first thing Jillian would do is to give Brian a hug.

I'm sure I'll now be hated by both sides... just like in high school wacko.gif


I sure DO NOT hate you, I appreciate your opinion and the way you expressed yourself. Take care,

swiss74
swiss74
QUOTE (Noel Rae @ May 16, 2008 - 10:37 AM) *
Are you kidding? I, & I think a lot of other people, would LOVE that idea!! Someone should of thought of that earlier. GREAT IDEA!

I think somewhere I read that Jackie had bought Jackie's interest out of Sky Sport. I could be wrong.

I am sure we are stuck with Jackie if the program stays "Work Out" but a change of name and a few other adjustments might due the trick. I have a feeling that Jackie would not allow the trainers who work at Sky Sport to participate in a new program, they probably would have to quit and start up a new spa, which really is not such a bad idea.
fg
QUOTE (swiss74 @ May 16, 2008 - 12:35 PM) *
I think somewhere I read that Jackie had bought Jackie's interest out of Sky Sport. I could be wrong.

I am sure we are stuck with Jackie if the program stays "Work Out" but a change of name and a few other adjustments might due the trick. I have a feeling that Jackie would not allow the trainers who work at Sky Sport to participate in a new program, they probably would have to quit and start up a new spa, which really is not such a bad idea.


Yeah, I'm not sure what can be done at this point...I would just like for Bravo to acknowledge its viewers distress over this matter.
JCpalmsprings
Something I found that is ammussing.... Enjoy

http://www.cleaninghunk.com/
swiss74
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 11:53 AM) *
Something I found that is ammussing.... Enjoy

http://www.cleaninghunk.com/


Now that was interesting, funny, and I wonder what that was all about.

Brian? not Greg?
fg
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 12:53 PM) *
Something I found that is ammussing.... Enjoy

http://www.cleaninghunk.com/


Where do you find this stuff JC? laugh.gif
WONDER WOMAN
QUOTE (V1Man @ May 16, 2008 - 11:15 AM) *
As a straight producer, I could not survive in the entertainment industry if I were not pro-gay/lesbian. It is our reality. That doesn't mean I sign up to support Jackie in any situation, however. I've met both Brian and Jackie socially and found them likable; I've known Rebecca since 2005 when I co-sponsored a charity event in which she participated. She is everything in real life that she is on-camera on Work Out.

I've thought some of Jackie's behavior during the past two seasons was odd -- perhaps even quirky -- but likely an editing choice for the resulting drama involved. When the show didn't appear on BRAVO in January as many of us in the trade expected, I suspected something was afoot. The May 6th episode convinced me that I was correct. Trainwreck television! I wonder if BRAVO and the produciton company tried to do damage control with sponsors before the season began? It doesn't appear they did, which is in bold print in "TV Production 101 for Dummies."

Now to my reaction, should anyone beside my mother care...

Jackie's blog denial stands in stark contrast to Jamie Eason and her boyfriend's account of events. Lisa's own blog differs as well. The preponderance of the evidence goes against Jackie. Our legal counsel says its not even a grey area, that Peeler, if not for his TV contract, would have an easy case against Sky Sport under Calif. labor law.

I'm not signing the petition because I believe it penalizes too many good people -- others in the cast and the production company who boldly gave us the video. Cancelling Work Out harms too many innocents and simply seems vindictive. Jackie, however, simply must go.

Let's bring the real owner of Sky Sport to the show -- Jillian Michaels, the wonderful trainer from "Bggest Loser." Anyone who watches that show and follows Jillian, knows she is a dedicated and caring professional. My guess is the first thing Jillian would do is to give Brian a hug.

I'm sure I'll now be hated by both sides... just like in high school wacko.gif



JILLIAN MICHAELS, has no financial intereset in Shy sport and Spa. it has probably been 3 0 or 4 years since Jackie bought her out....the cheese stands alone ( Jackie Warner)
JCpalmsprings
Greg (if thats his real name) is a model and actor... That was a promotional link last year on XTRA pine cleaner....

QUOTE (swiss74 @ May 16, 2008 - 11:56 AM) *
Now that was interesting, funny, and I wonder what that was all about.

Brian? not Greg?
swiss74
QUOTE (WONDER WOMAN @ May 16, 2008 - 11:58 AM) *
JILLIAN MICHAELS, has no financial intereset in Shy sport and Spa. it has probably been 3 0 or 4 years since Jackie bought her out....the cheese stands alone ( Jackie Warner)

I know this is really tacky and forgive the spelling,

Is that Leiderkranz or Limberger cheese?
WONDER WOMAN
QUOTE (WONDER WOMAN @ May 16, 2008 - 12:58 PM) *
JILLIAN MICHAELS, has no financial intereset in Shy sport and Spa. it has probably been 3 0 or 4 years since Jackie bought her out....the cheese stands alone ( Jackie Warner) "Workout", is a tv show about Jackie Warner, and her Sky Sport Trainers.......... soooooooo No jackie warner= no show... Simple as that......
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