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NiCi
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 12:53 PM) *
Something I found that is ammussing.... Enjoy

http://www.cleaninghunk.com/



ohmy.gif blink.gif blush.gif laugh.gif !!!!!
Where on earth did you find that?!!!
KariAna
OOPS just discovered Jackie does own the gym.

Nevermind. Don't hate you. Good thought. Too

bad Jackie owns the gym.

Kari Ana


QUOTE (V1Man @ May 16, 2008 - 10:15 AM) *
As a straight producer, I could not survive in the entertainment industry if I were not pro-gay/lesbian. It is our reality. That doesn't mean I sign up to support Jackie in any situation, however. I've met both Brian and Jackie socially and found them likable; I've known Rebecca since 2005 when I co-sponsored a charity event in which she participated. She is everything in real life that she is on-camera on Work Out.

I've thought some of Jackie's behavior during the past two seasons was odd -- perhaps even quirky -- but likely an editing choice for the resulting drama involved. When the show didn't appear on BRAVO in January as many of us in the trade expected, I suspected something was afoot. The May 6th episode convinced me that I was correct. Trainwreck television! I wonder if BRAVO and the produciton company tried to do damage control with sponsors before the season began? It doesn't appear they did, which is in bold print in "TV Production 101 for Dummies."

Now to my reaction, should anyone beside my mother care...

Jackie's blog denial stands in stark contrast to Jamie Eason and her boyfriend's account of events. Lisa's own blog differs as well. The preponderance of the evidence goes against Jackie. Our legal counsel says its not even a grey area, that Peeler, if not for his TV contract, would have an easy case against Sky Sport under Calif. labor law.

I'm not signing the petition because I believe it penalizes too many good people -- others in the cast and the production company who boldly gave us the video. Cancelling Work Out harms too many innocents and simply seems vindictive. Jackie, however, simply must go.

Let's bring the real owner of Sky Sport to the show -- Jillian Michaels, the wonderful trainer from "Bggest Loser." Anyone who watches that show and follows Jillian, knows she is a dedicated and caring professional. My guess is the first thing Jillian would do is to give Brian a hug.

I'm sure I'll now be hated by both sides... just like in high school wacko.gif
swiss74
That is what I thought. I imagine she locked in the program contractually. A different name night do the trick. Bravo has a problem on their hands.
NiCi
QUOTE (WONDER WOMAN @ May 16, 2008 - 12:58 PM) *
JILLIAN MICHAELS, has no financial intereset in Shy sport and Spa. it has probably been 3 0 or 4 years since Jackie bought her out....the cheese stands alone ( Jackie Warner)


And shes starting to get a little smelly! blink.gif

Sorry, I just couldn't pass that one up! biggrin.gif
swiss74
QUOTE (NiCi @ May 16, 2008 - 12:38 PM) *
And shes starting to get a little smelly! blink.gif

Sorry, I just couldn't pass that one up! biggrin.gif

I understand I could not stop myself either with the (spelling) Leiderkranz and Limberger remark. blush.gif
KariAna
Jackie would not be able to say a word other than to make them go

to a different gym if the contract is with the producers of the show

and not Jackie.

Kari Ana

QUOTE (swiss74 @ May 16, 2008 - 11:35 AM) *
I think somewhere I read that Jackie had bought Jackie's interest out of Sky Sport. I could be wrong.

I am sure we are stuck with Jackie if the program stays "Work Out" but a change of name and a few other adjustments might due the trick. I have a feeling that Jackie would not allow the trainers who work at Sky Sport to participate in a new program, they probably would have to quit and start up a new spa, which really is not such a bad idea.
truereality
QUOTE (Ali_G @ May 16, 2008 - 01:44 AM) *
There was nothing insubordinate about Peeler calmly going to Jackie privately and trying to find out why she disrespected his friend. Jackie Warner does not deserve support on this issue. She has made her bed and now she has to lie in it.


Brian did not go to Jackie calmly. He was seething with rage. Jackie said she was not going to discuss the breast implant comments with him. Brian continued to demand she talk about it with him. At which point she gave him an ultimatum, either leave or be fired. He stayed and was fired. This was the last time in two years of disrespect and insubordination of Jackie's authority. Just the day before he showed up to work without his uniform (a SkySport t-shirt). Gregg said "I was not surprised Peeler got fired. His confrontations with Jackie were getting more personal, less professional."

Here is the video of Brian Peeler getting fired.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnoDI2QsvmA

As I said before Jaime Eason's boyfriend confronted both Jackie and Lisa. If he wanted an apology he would have asked Jackie for one. Another thing, Brian and Jaime had no idea what was going on even though they were in the room next door until well after it happened so whatever conversation Jaime Eason's boyfriend had with them ended peacefully.

It's ironic that you say I'm paranoid when everyone on here says any poster that doesn't say Jackie is the devil is working for SkySport, Bravo or is Jackie herself. I have observed and studied anti-gay bigotry for many years so I know the extreme and oppressive reaction Jackie has received is due to her sexuality and being a women.

JCPalmsprings you are not a gay man. You have used that as a cover so you can spout your bigotry about gay people i.e. lesbo, gayboy, I am so Gay and Flaming! My smoke alarms going off etc. You obviously don't care about projecting a positive image of gay people instead you degrade gay people. And what is wrong with being pro-gay?

Please support Work Out and Jackie Warner by signing this petition. Thanks.
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/adga2343/petition.html
swiss74
QUOTE (KariAna @ May 16, 2008 - 12:44 PM) *
Jackie would not be able to say a word other than to make them go

to a different gym if the contract is with the producers of the show

and not Jackie.

Kari Ana

True

and by the way, how are you feeling today?
JCpalmsprings
Thank you for the mention....



QUOTE (truereality @ May 16, 2008 - 12:45 PM) *
Brian did not go to Jackie calmly. He was seething with rage. Jackie said she was not going to discuss the breast implant comments with him. Brian continued to demand she talk about it with him. At which point she gave him an ultimatum, either leave or be fired. He stayed and was fired. This was the last time in two years of disrespect and insubordination of Jackie's authority. Just the day before he showed up to work without his uniform (a SkySport t-shirt). Gregg said "I was not surprised Peeler got fired. His confrontations with Jackie were getting more personal, less professional."

Here is the video of Brian Peeler getting fired.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnoDI2QsvmA

As I said before Jaime Eason's boyfriend confronted both Jackie and Lisa. If he wanted an apology he would have asked Jackie for one. Another thing, Brian and Jaime had no idea what was going on even though they were in the room next door until well after it happened so whatever conversation Jaime Eason's boyfriend had with them ended peacefully.

It's ironic that you say I'm paranoid when everyone on here says any poster that doesn't say Jackie is the devil is working for SkySport, Bravo or is Jackie herself. I have observed and studied anti-gay bigotry for many years so I know the extreme and oppressive reaction Jackie has received is due to her sexuality and being a women.

JCPalmsprings you are not a gay man. You have used that as a cover so you can spout your bigotry about gay people i.e. lesbo, gayboy, I am so Gay and Flaming! My smoke alarms going off etc. You obviously don't care about projecting a positive image of gay people instead you degrade gay people. And what is wrong with being pro-gay?

Please support Work Out and Jackie Warner by signing this petition. Thanks.
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/adga2343/petition.html
swiss74
QUOTE (truereality @ May 16, 2008 - 12:45 PM) *
Brian did not go to Jackie calmly. He was seething with rage. Jackie said she was not going to discuss the breast implant comments with him. Brian continued to demand she talk about it with him. At which point she gave him an ultimatum, either leave or be fired. He stayed and was fired. This was the last time in two years of disrespect and insubordination of Jackie's authority. Just the day before he showed up to work without his uniform (a SkySport t-shirt). Gregg said "I was not surprised Peeler got fired. His confrontations with Jackie were getting more personal, less professional."

Here is the video of Brian Peeler getting fired.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnoDI2QsvmA

As I said before Jaime Eason's boyfriend confronted both Jackie and Lisa. If he wanted an apology he would have asked Jackie for one. Another thing, Brian and Jaime had no idea what was going on even though they were in the room next door until well after it happened so whatever conversation Jaime Eason's boyfriend had with them ended peacefully.

It's ironic that you say I'm paranoid when everyone on here says any poster that doesn't say Jackie is the devil is working for SkySport, Bravo or is Jackie herself. I have observed and studied anti-gay bigotry for many years so I know the extreme and oppressive reaction Jackie has received is due to her sexuality and being a women.

JCPalmsprings you are not a gay man. You have used that as a cover so you can spout your bigotry about gay people i.e. lesbo, gayboy, I am so Gay and Flaming! My smoke alarms going off etc. You obviously don't care about projecting a positive image of gay people instead you degrade gay people. And what is wrong with being pro-gay?

Please support Work Out and Jackie Warner by signing this petition. Thanks.
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/adga2343/petition.html


I do not think in any of my posts I have said you were paranoid. I do not think I have ever referred to Jackie's sexual preference in my posts in a derogatory manner either. I have spoken to her unprofessional behavior in regards to the Jamie Eason incident including the confrontation with Peeler. Going along with her unprofessional behavior I expressed my opinion about her telling a client about her problems with Peeler in the last episode. She should have only said that Peeler was no longer at SKy Sport. I also expressed my dissaproval of dating employees. In my days of running offices and laboratories I always found that if I respected my employees they would respect me. If I treated them fairly they would treat me fairly also.

I have expressed my suport for Peeler.
Snagglepuss
From Truereality: "I have observed and studied anti-gay bigotry for many years so I know the extreme and oppressive reaction Jackie has received is due to her sexuality and being a women."

Yes, Olivia Cruises is just full of bigoted, homophobic, misogynistic folks. HA HA!!

And read the recaps on afterellen.com -guess those LESBIANS also hate Jackie for "her sexuality and being a woman".
ctmum
For what ever it's worth I'm going to throw in my two cents here.

I don't think it's fair to make accusations about other posters lifestyles and wheather they are telling the truth or not. If you read most of the posts from the people who are upset they have obviously been watching Workout and most of the other Bravo shows for years. Now I have to say if some is truely a bigoted person and hates gays I don't think they are watching the Bravo lineup. I certainly don't think it's a consiracy to watch for years in the hope of ruining the life of a gay or lesbian celebrity.

As far as bringing up Jackie's sexuality, she has embraced her role as a role model in that communtiy, and for better or worse when you accept the title of role model you are going to be held up to a higher standard by those who look up to you. That is why I cringe when I hear anyone beit Miley Cyrus or Britney Spears saying they want to be a role model for young girls. Instead look to a friend, family member, teacher or preacher or anyone you know personally and admire how they live their lives.

Well that's and three cents will get you a nickle.
Reality_Jen
Listen I don't know if the reactions to Jackie is anti-gay. I can tell you that my reaction has nothing to do w/her sexuality. Well, perhaps that is not completely true. I think it's disgraceful that she hooks up with multiple employees. Gay or straight it shouldn't matter. I think that people understand if a boss dates an employee (even if that makes people feel like someone is playing favorites). But to have a boss make out with multiple employees? Didn't one of the employees say that it's almost a rite of passage/requirement if you are a woman working for Jackie?

So, while her sexual preference doesn't make a difference to me, I think it's shows a lack of professionalism and is just plain tacky to hook up with your employees. So I suppose her sexuality has something to do with it.

That said, it's frustrating that you talk about the reaction to the show as a whole. Like, anyone who disagrees with Jackie's attitude and activity is therefore a homophobe. That is really generalizing. The same way that generalizations shouldn't be made of all gay people, they shouldn't be made of straight people.

Finally, I don't think that this is a cut and dry issue. Peeler clearly tried to push her buttons many times. B

But over the seasons, I have seen Peeler grow and show some improved maturity. While Jackie has had a real downhill battle with how she treats people, her management skills, and her overall ego.
PEELER
Hello everyone who would like to see a season 3 reunion show I know I sure would. I believe the real truth would come out! If you would like to see it you should write in ad express how you feel. I would sure love to do one! I want to thank all of you out there for standing up for me. I know there are a few of you out there that don't like me and think I am in the wrong but thats ok. You don't know the whole truth and how this woman really is in real life. I am not her to bash her I am only here to say thank you to all my loyal fans and to let you know don't worry I am just about to pitch my own show!
ctmum
QUOTE (PEELER @ May 16, 2008 - 02:36 PM) *
Hello everyone who would like to see a season 3 reunion show I know I sure would. I believe the real truth would come out! If you would like to see it you should write in ad express how you feel. I would sure love to do one! I want to thank all of you out there for standing up for me. I know there are a few of you out there that don't like me and think I am in the wrong but thats ok. You don't know the whole truth and how this woman really is in real life. I am not her to bash her I am only here to say thank you to all my loyal fans and to let you know don't worry I am just about to pitch my own show!



I would love to see a reunion show, I sort of took it for granted that there would be one. I know alot of posters who are not watching the show now said they would indeed tune in for that show alone. I think Bravo would have a very highly rated show.
swiss74
QUOTE (PEELER @ May 16, 2008 - 01:36 PM) *
Hello everyone who would like to see a season 3 reunion show I know I sure would. I believe the real truth would come out! If you would like to see it you should write in ad express how you feel. I would sure love to do one! I want to thank all of you out there for standing up for me. I know there are a few of you out there that don't like me and think I am in the wrong but thats ok. You don't know the whole truth and how this woman really is in real life. I am not her to bash her I am only here to say thank you to all my loyal fans and to let you know don't worry I am just about to pitch my own show!

Hi Peeler,

I am glad that you stopped by to say hi to all of us. Good Luck with your show. rolleyes.gif

I too support a Reunion Show.
over it
I think a reunion show would be great if they didn't edit during certain parts of the show and we all know what parts.
Reality_Jen
QUOTE (PEELER @ May 16, 2008 - 02:36 PM) *
Hello everyone who would like to see a season 3 reunion show I know I sure would. I believe the real truth would come out! If you would like to see it you should write in ad express how you feel. I would sure love to do one! I want to thank all of you out there for standing up for me. I know there are a few of you out there that don't like me and think I am in the wrong but thats ok. You don't know the whole truth and how this woman really is in real life. I am not her to bash her I am only here to say thank you to all my loyal fans and to let you know don't worry I am just about to pitch my own show!


Well they had better have a reunion show. And I think it would even help Jackie too if she can be completely honest and open.

Thanks for checking in. We miss you Brian.
JCpalmsprings
Check out Brian Peelers my space page and look in his added comments and friends! Deenie left an interesting comment. Click on her pick it will take you to her homepage......
swiss74
QUOTE (pwb02 @ May 16, 2008 - 01:52 PM) *
I think a reunion show would be great if they didn't edit during certain parts of the show and we all know what parts.

I agree, they could make it a two hour show and just put it all out there for us to judge for ourselves. I just can not imagine that Bravo would not want to cut parts out, seems like that is their mode of operation. How about doing it live for the first viewing and tape the program during that viewing for future showings.
Lorizh
QUOTE (truereality @ May 16, 2008 - 01:29 AM) *
No. People have come down on Jackie because she is a lesbian. They want her to submit to their demands. I have seen this movie plenty of times.

Lisa the one that made the comments apologized for them. The boyfriend of Jaime Eason rightfully intervened when he heard the comments. If he had the balls to intervene don't you think he would have also asked Jackie for an apology if he thought one was needed? The fact is the situation was settled. Brian Peeler wanted to start trouble like usual. Finally Jackie had enough of his insubordination and justly fired him.

Please support Work Out and Jackie Warner by signing this petition. Thank You.
http://www.petitiononline.com/adga2343/petition.html


LOL you've got 6 signatures you better slow down there!

PS, don't try and spin this because she is a lesbian, nice try for the love of....no one here EVER said it was because she was a lesbian, YOU are desperate and are trying to hang on to something...it's not working too bad too sad for you.

Warner DID make comments and NEVER apologized to Jamie's boyfriend, get your story straight before you start spewing allegations that are just hateful. You're making the situation worse, you're going to rile people up which is going to hurt your cause. You're trying to save the show, we're trying to get rid of it let the best people win. It has nothing to do with her sexuality if anything it works for her instead of against her.
JCpalmsprings
Peeler if that is really you, when is Peelerbuilt.com going to be up and running?

Also, do you want to have a Bromance????

If they can block out Jackie's face and do voice over I would love to see a Reunion... Just kidding..... Would love to see everyone's response as long as it is truthful.....
PEELER
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 01:58 PM) *
Check out Brian Peelers my space page and look in his added comments and friends! Deenie left an interesting comment. Click on her pick it will take you to her homepage......

That is correct I am now training Deeine and I have been doing so for a while now. I was even training her after I got fired from the show during the season. The producers didn't even know until the last day of the show at the reveal. She is an amazing girl and needed to find the right trainer to push her and lead her and show her how to push herself without quitting.
dobey
QUOTE (truereality @ May 16, 2008 - 01:45 PM) *
As I said before Jaime Eason's boyfriend confronted both Jackie and Lisa. If he wanted an apology he would have asked Jackie for one. Another thing, Brian and Jaime had no idea what was going on even though they were in the room next door until well after it happened so whatever conversation Jaime Eason's boyfriend had with them ended peacefully.

It's ironic that you say I'm paranoid when everyone on here says any poster that doesn't say Jackie is the devil is working for SkySport, Bravo or is Jackie herself. I have observed and studied anti-gay bigotry for many years so I know the extreme and oppressive reaction Jackie has received is due to her sexuality and being a women.

JCPalmsprings you are not a gay man. You have used that as a cover so you can spout your bigotry about gay people i.e. lesbo, gayboy, I am so Gay and Flaming! My smoke alarms going off etc. You obviously don't care about projecting a positive image of gay people instead you degrade gay people. And what is wrong with being pro-gay?


Ms Truereality I couldn't disagree with you more. How do you know how Jamie Easons boyfriend felt or acted after hearing Jackie and Lisa making fun of his girlfriend? Bravo only left us with a shot of Jakie's face looking like she just stepped in crap big time, then they cut to Jackie and Lisa's confessionals with their side of the story. Jamie Eason's boyfriend was still upset enough to tell Brian and his girlfriend something that would obviously upset them. Doesn't sound to peaceful to me.

Brian had every right to confront Ms Warner in her office and even be a little pissed off about it. Not only was what Jackie and Lisa were joking about disgusting and unprofessional but Brian leases space in Jackie's gym as a subcontractor according to him. Brian was owed a explanation Big time hunny.

I have to agree with you on one point Ms Truereality you are not paranoid you are a Bigot. You are the one who accuses anyone who doesn't agree with your militant view of pro homosexuality of being anti-gay. Who are you to question JCPalmsprings sexuality? Just because he is comfortably enough to state his sexuality and joke a little about it, he's a bigot in your eyes. Ms Truereality you are the one who is not projecting a positive image of gay people instead you degrade anyone who doesn't practice your form of militant gay pride, straight and gay alike. Ms Warner and Ms Truereality your actions and comments are doing nothing to help advance gay pride , trust me.

For the record I'm a straight man , married with one son. I hope I haven't offended anyone besides Ms Truereality or Ms Warner. I have friends who come from all walks of life and sexual preferences but Ms Truereality realy gets my old testosterone pumping, a bigot is a bigot.
Snagglepuss
OK, I know this is going to seem like a long diatribe but stick with me.
As someone who was FIRED from job after being "too out" (my boss's words) at work, I find people accusing me of being homophobic quite insulting. (I was official fired for "Poor Job Performance" after several employees refused to work with me.)

When I filed a complaint with the California Dept. of Fair Labor & Housing, my "case worker" asked "why did you tell them you were gay?"
I explained that someone at work inquired if I had a girlfriend. And I answered truthfully.
During subsequent conversations, he repeatedly asked why I said anything about being gay.
He then said "Well I don't talk about my sex life at work"!
To which I responded "Stating I am gay is not talking about my "sex life" any more than someone else mentioning their spouse or announcing a pregnancy is talking about sex".

He stated that I shouldn't have said anything if they couldn't "tell I was gay". Especially if they might be upset by my being gay.
I tried explaining to him that just because someone doesn't know I'm Jewish or Mexican etc., why should I hide these basic facts about myself? He then said "I have many cases I'm working on- I'll get back to you".

I later called him to inquire about my case (this was a year later). He stated that my case was closed- I stated that I hadn't heard back from them and he told me to hold on- he put the phone down- (not on hold) and I heard him open a file drawer- he picked up the phone and said "I have your file right here, I've been working on your case today".

Long story short- I received a letter stating that I had no proof and that my former employers claimed I made "inappropriate and offensive remarks at work". When I called my Case worker and asked "if I had made any inappropriate comments, why wasn't I fired for sexual harassment?" He said "Just saying you are gay, someone could find offensive".
I of course reported his comments to his supervisor who told me she found that surprising because he handles many gay & lesbian cases. To which I asked "how many has found in favor of?".

I reported this to every Gay & Lesbian Rights Organization I could find and if I received a response at all, it was "your case is too hard to prove and/or your case is not big enough".
So I finally gave up and moved on- but let me tell you, being fired is extremely stressful. Being fired due to outright bigotry and ignorance and then being told "there is nothing you can do" is devastating.

BTW I am a 40 year old gay man who has been out since I was 16. I have never felt that my sexual identity has hurt me or held me back in my professional life, until this incident.
d1gth1s
A visit from PEELER hehe....Well if Bravo won't do a reunion show, we can just have our own here in the forums.

Jackie's already been here(Dacia and Jack123), so if we can just get her to use her real name...

PEELER, one quick question if I may...Are you, Jamie and Rich under contract where you can't talk about what was said by Jackie? Supposedly Jamie posted on bodybuilding.com saying that Jackie was doing the talking with Lisa just chiming in, but it was removed so we don't know if that was for real.
JCpalmsprings
dobey

Two words! THANK YOU....

QUOTE (dobey @ May 16, 2008 - 02:12 PM) *
Ms Truereality I couldn't disagree with you more. How do you know how Jamie Easons boyfriend felt or acted after hearing Jackie and Lisa making fun of his girlfriend? Bravo only left us with a shot of Jakie's face looking like she just stepped in crap big time, then they cut to Jackie and Lisa's confessionals with their side of the story. Jamie Eason's boyfriend was still upset enough to tell Brian and his girlfriend something that would obviously upset them. Doesn't sound to peaceful to me.

Brian had every right to confront Ms Warner in her office and even be a little pissed off about it. Not only was what Jackie and Lisa were joking about disgusting and unprofessional but Brian leases space in Jackie's gym as a subcontractor according to him. Brian was owed a explanation Big time hunny.

I have to agree with you on one point Ms Truereality you are not paranoid you are a Bigot. You are the one who accuses anyone who doesn't agree with your militant view of pro homosexuality of being anti-gay. Who are you to question JCPalmsprings sexuality? Just because he is comfortably enough to state his sexuality and joke a little about it, he's a bigot in your eyes. Ms Truereality you are the one who is not projecting a positive image of gay people instead you degrade anyone who doesn't practice your form of militant gay pride, straight and gay alike. Ms Warner and Ms Truereality your actions and comments are doing nothing to help advance gay pride , trust me.

For the record I'm a straight man , married with one son. I hope I haven't offended anyone besides Ms Truereality or Ms Warner. I have friends who come from all walks of life and sexual preferences but Ms Truereality realy gets my old testosterone pumping, a bigot is a bigot.
KariAna
Thanks for asking. I am feeling about the same.

I hate how being sick messes with how people think.

Having awareness is such an important task and when

I get sick it is really difficult to be aware of stuff. smile.gif

It takes me a lot longer to post things and still be

coherent. smile.gifsmile.gif

As bizarre as this may sound, Jackie's ill fortune seems

to have begun some pretty cool frienships. smile.gifsmile.gif

Kari Ana


QUOTE (swiss74 @ May 16, 2008 - 12:48 PM) *
True

and by the way, how are you feeling today?
Lorizh
QUOTE (PEELER @ May 16, 2008 - 02:36 PM) *
Hello everyone who would like to see a season 3 reunion show I know I sure would. I believe the real truth would come out! If you would like to see it you should write in ad express how you feel. I would sure love to do one! I want to thank all of you out there for standing up for me. I know there are a few of you out there that don't like me and think I am in the wrong but thats ok. You don't know the whole truth and how this woman really is in real life. I am not her to bash her I am only here to say thank you to all my loyal fans and to let you know don't worry I am just about to pitch my own show!



PEELER!!! Thank you so much for finally stopping by and having the GUTS to put your name to your post unlike some others we know of hmmm... rolleyes.gif

I will definitely write for the reunion show and I've also written for PeelerBuilt too tongue.gif ...As you can see here, your fans outweigh the couple of people (ahem..Jackie, Jesse and a few others) who are here to blame us for all of Jackie's bad behavior. She's lost sponsors due to our letter writing, so that's our fault? We weren't the ones who made the "couple of bad jokes" as Jackie puts it regarding Jamie Eason so if anyone lost their jobs it was all due to her and her employee Lisa she is so quick to protect but Lisa threw Jackie under the bus...oh well.

Keeping my fingers crossed on that show, but please if I can make a suggestion, NO Gregg (2g's) but Greg Plitt is AOKAY in my book wink.gif

PS, did you see Kari started a yahoo group ProPeelerBuilt ??
ctmum
QUOTE (d1gth1s @ May 16, 2008 - 03:18 PM) *
A visit from PEELER hehe....We'll if Bravo won't do a reunion show, we can just have our own here in the forums.

Jackie's already been here(Dacia and Jack123), so if we can just get her to use her real name...

PEELER, one quick question if I may...Are you, Jamie and Rich under contract where you can't talk about what was said by Jackie? Supposedly Jamie posted on bodybuilding.com saying that Jackie was doing the talking with Lisa just chiming in, but it was removed so we don't know if that was for real.


I was wondering that as well, a point was made a couple of days ago to those of us who were asking the sponsors (sucessfully) to pull ads, that Jamie and her boyfriend haven't gone on the record with their story. Essentially blasting all of us and telling us to get a life. Pretty much saying it wasn't a big enough deal for them to comment why are we so upset by it.
Lorizh
QUOTE (truereality @ May 16, 2008 - 01:45 PM) *
Brian did not go to Jackie calmly. He was seething with rage. Jackie said she was not going to discuss the breast implant comments with him. Brian continued to demand she talk about it with him. At which point she gave him an ultimatum, either leave or be fired. He stayed and was fired. This was the last time in two years of disrespect and insubordination of Jackie's authority. Just the day before he showed up to work without his uniform (a SkySport t-shirt). Gregg said "I was not surprised Peeler got fired. His confrontations with Jackie were getting more personal, less professional."

Here is the video of Brian Peeler getting fired.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnoDI2QsvmA

As I said before Jaime Eason's boyfriend confronted both Jackie and Lisa. If he wanted an apology he would have asked Jackie for one. Another thing, Brian and Jaime had no idea what was going on even though they were in the room next door until well after it happened so whatever conversation Jaime Eason's boyfriend had with them ended peacefully.

It's ironic that you say I'm paranoid when everyone on here says any poster that doesn't say Jackie is the devil is working for SkySport, Bravo or is Jackie herself. I have observed and studied anti-gay bigotry for many years so I know the extreme and oppressive reaction Jackie has received is due to her sexuality and being a women.

JCPalmsprings you are not a gay man. You have used that as a cover so you can spout your bigotry about gay people i.e. lesbo, gayboy, I am so Gay and Flaming! My smoke alarms going off etc. You obviously don't care about projecting a positive image of gay people instead you degrade gay people. And what is wrong with being pro-gay?

Please support Work Out and Jackie Warner by signing this petition. Thanks.
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/adga2343/petition.html


Thanks for the link Jackie, but Peeler had the balls to put on his own site and put his name to his post. You're in deep shiate and you are doing anything you can to save your job with Bravo. Peeler was not enraged at all, Jackie (or you) was the one who was condesending and ridiculed Peeler along with Jamie Eason AND her boyfriend! Get your story straight or get your eyes and ears checked because you can't see or hear anything anyone else says unless they're gay.
JCpalmsprings
PEELER

I know a hot Massage Therapist that would love to be on your show.....
Lorizh
QUOTE (KariAna @ May 16, 2008 - 03:23 PM) *
Thanks for asking. I am feeling about the same.

I hate how being sick messes with how people think.

Having awareness is such an important task and when

I get sick it is really difficult to be aware of stuff. smile.gif

It takes me a lot longer to post things and still be

coherent. smile.gif smile.gif

As bizarre as this may sound, Jackie's ill fortune seems

to have begun some pretty cool frienships. smile.gif smile.gif

Kari Ana



Hey Kari Ana, glad to hear your feeling better, I'm feeling better today too but not 100% sad.gif

I've begun some pretty cool friendships here too. smile.gif
Lorizh
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 03:31 PM) *
PEELER

I know a hot Massage Therapist that would love to be on your show.....



lol would that hot MT be you??? wink.gif
WONDER WOMAN
Hi guys, i need your help.......A big favor. Can someone go over to LA RAG MAG sitefor me ? There is a comment from KAREN. It is under ELLEN's GETTING MARRIED. Can you post it on this site for us to read ( i do not know how to do that...) You will see why...Thanks Guys you're the best. wub.gif jc palmsprings, got your message honey rolleyes.gif
over it
QUOTE (WONDER WOMAN @ May 16, 2008 - 02:40 PM) *
Hi guys, i need your help.......A big favor. Can someone go over to LA RAG MAG sitefor me ? There is a comment from KAREN. It is under ELLEN's GETTING MARRIED. Can you post it on this site for us to read ( i do not know how to do that...) You will see why...Thanks Guys you're the best. wub.gif jc palmsprings, got your message honey rolleyes.gif


May 16th, 2008 at 8:53 am karen says:

Who deserves happiness more than Ellen…..NOBODY…what that poor girl went through when she came out on her show…All of my gay brothers and sisters, were in pain for her….I remember gathering with about 10 or so people(most of whom have since died of aids related illness) at a friends house in San Francisco, to watch the episode of Ellen’s character coming out..Such a dangerous .and courageous thing to do. Soooooo not safe at that time. Ellen knew that it was not a safe thing for her to do.

She did it for ALL of us, and we loved her for it…… and she was crucified for it………
If it were not for ELLEN, Jackie Warner would not have had the opportunity to have the show ” workout…”.a show about the life of an out, lesbian could not have happened in those days. Gay sand lesbians could only long for , and dream about it. Jackie Warner is Standing on the backs of all those who took to the streets in the 70’s in protest of Anita Bryant……it was a HUGE risk , and a very big deal.
We did it so that some day accepted visIbility could happen for gay people..we did it for
gay rights and freedom…..
I am broken hearted that Jackie Warner did not take the gift that she was given, and be a positive , ethical role model for the gay community……I am a 61 year old lesbian….I remember how it was to be ou t and on the front lines for gay rights………Shame on you Jackie.
THANK YOU ELLEN…..WE LOVE YOU BE HAPPY!!!!!!!
JCpalmsprings
No that would be another Hot Stud on this site. I want the Job of Office Manager....

Thanks for the Wink... tongue.gif

QUOTE (Lorizh @ May 16, 2008 - 02:39 PM) *
lol would that hot MT be you??? wink.gif
clarakotka
QUOTE (PEELER @ May 16, 2008 - 10:36 AM) *
Hello everyone who would like to see a season 3 reunion show I know I sure would. I believe the real truth would come out! If you would like to see it you should write in ad express how you feel. I would sure love to do one! I want to thank all of you out there for standing up for me. I know there are a few of you out there that don't like me and think I am in the wrong but thats ok. You don't know the whole truth and how this woman really is in real life. I am not her to bash her I am only here to say thank you to all my loyal fans and to let you know don't worry I am just about to pitch my own show!


Awesome! Viva Peelerbuilt! wub.gif
When will there be women's t-shirts? Those babies would SELL.

As for truereality, it actually IS POSSIBLE for someone to be a lesbian and be an ass at the same time.

Lorizh
QUOTE (ctmum @ May 16, 2008 - 03:27 PM) *
I was wondering that as well, a point was made a couple of days ago to those of us who were asking the sponsors (sucessfully) to pull ads, that Jamie and her boyfriend haven't gone on the record with their story. Essentially blasting all of us and telling us to get a life. Pretty much saying it wasn't a big enough deal for them to comment why are we so upset by it.



Well what most of these geniuses don't know is that although we wrote the letters, it was the sponsor's decision to pull their ads and sponsorships due to watching the episode themselves! I have the emails myself if anyone would like to see them I would be more than happy to forward them to you! They all say "after reviewing the episode we have notified Bravo not to run our advertisements during Workout and we have pulled our sponsorship" so there ya go, they too thought Jackie's behavior was OUT OF LINE and how anyone can argue that well the all the power to them!

PS, HEY PEELER, SIGN THE PETITION smile.gif
Lorizh
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 03:44 PM) *
No that would be another Hot Stud on this site. I want the Job of Office Manager....

Thanks for the Wink... tongue.gif



Okay you can be the office manager but NO making fun of people's boobs especially if Peeler is going to train me because I don't have any, lol....

n/p on the wink, you're so sweet smile.gif
Snagglepuss
I decided to "be my own boss" and work for myself. Also really enjoy making people feel better/helping people. blush.gif

BTW hope my earlier post didn't sound too whiny- just wanted to explain that it pisses me off when people pull the "homophobia" card- when this situation has nothing to do with bigotry and everything to do with Jackie's "Bullish" behavior. mad.gif

Prejudice is when you prejudge someone- Jackie is being "judged" by her BEHAVIOR.
swiss74
QUOTE (LiaminLB @ May 16, 2008 - 02:14 PM) *
OK, I know this is going to seem like a long diatribe but stick with me.
As someone who was FIRED from job after being "too out" (my boss's words) at work, I find people accusing me of being homophobic quite insulting. (I was official fired for "Poor Job Performance" after several employees refused to work with me.)

When I filed a complaint with the California Dept. of Fair Labor & Housing, my "case worker" asked "why did you tell them you were gay?"
I explained that someone at work inquired if I had a girlfriend. And I answered truthfully.
During subsequent conversations, he repeatedly asked why I said anything about being gay.
He then said "Well I don't talk about my sex life at work"!
To which I responded "Stating I am gay is not talking about my "sex life" any more than someone else mentioning their spouse or announcing a pregnancy is talking about sex".

He stated that I shouldn't have said anything if they couldn't "tell I was gay". Especially if they might be upset by my being gay.
I tried explaining to him that just because someone doesn't know I'm Jewish or Mexican etc., why should I hide these basic facts about myself? He then said "I have many cases I'm working on- I'll get back to you".

I later called him to inquire about my case (this was a year later). He stated that my case was closed- I stated that I hadn't heard back from them and he told me to hold on- he put the phone down- (not on hold) and I heard him open a file drawer- he picked up the phone and said "I have your file right here, I've been working on your case today".

Long story short- I received a letter stating that I had no proof and that my former employers claimed I made "inappropriate and offensive remarks at work". When I called my Case worker and asked "if I had made any inappropriate comments, why wasn't I fired for sexual harassment?" He said "Just saying you are gay, someone could find offensive".
I of course reported his comments to his supervisor who told me she found that surprising because he handles many gay & lesbian cases. To which I asked "how many has found in favor of?".

I reported this to every Gay & Lesbian Rights Organization I could find and if I received a response at all, it was "your case is too hard to prove and/or your case is not big enough".
So I finally gave up and moved on- but let me tell you, being fired is extremely stressful. Being fired due to outright bigotry and ignorance and then being told "there is nothing you can do" is devastating.

BTW I am a 40 year old gay man who has been out since I was 16. I have never felt that my sexual identity has hurt me or held me back in my professional life, until this incident.


I am sorry this happened to you. All I can say is when I was a supervisor sexual orientation never was ever a concern. I do not remember any employee expressing disapproval either. We did not care about that all we cared about is that you did your job. None of us discussed our experiences at work period. The work place is not the place to do that. Sure some of the employees did not like some of the other employees (had nothing to do with sexual preferences) it had to do with work habits, being late for appointments, etc. My motto was always, "You don't have to like someone in order to work with them, you just need to be civil." "Yes it is nicer to like your work partner but sometimes that just is not possible." It was really funny it ended up all were friendly on different levels.

Keep your chin up you will find the right place to work.
Lorizh
QUOTE (pwb02 @ May 16, 2008 - 03:44 PM) *
May 16th, 2008 at 8:53 am karen says:

Who deserves happiness more than Ellen…..NOBODY…what that poor girl went through when she came out on her show…All of my gay brothers and sisters, were in pain for her….I remember gathering with about 10 or so people(most of whom have since died of aids related illness) at a friends house in San Francisco, to watch the episode of Ellen's character coming out..Such a dangerous .and courageous thing to do. Soooooo not safe at that time. Ellen knew that it was not a safe thing for her to do.

She did it for ALL of us, and we loved her for it…… and she was crucified for it………
If it were not for ELLEN, Jackie Warner would not have had the opportunity to have the show " workout…".a show about the life of an out, lesbian could not have happened in those days. Gay sand lesbians could only long for , and dream about it. Jackie Warner is Standing on the backs of all those who took to the streets in the 70's in protest of Anita Bryant……it was a HUGE risk , and a very big deal.
We did it so that some day accepted visIbility could happen for gay people..we did it for
gay rights and freedom…..
I am broken hearted that Jackie Warner did not take the gift that she was given, and be a positive , ethical role model for the gay community……I am a 61 year old lesbian….I remember how it was to be ou t and on the front lines for gay rights………Shame on you Jackie.
THANK YOU ELLEN…..WE LOVE YOU BE HAPPY!!!!!!!



OMG Ellen coming out show was the BOMB!!! I LOVED the part where Melissa Ethridge gave her the toaster, lol....okay now spill does that really happen?? j/k laugh.gif I love Ellen she's deserves all the success in the world wub.gif
over it
QUOTE (pwb02 @ May 15, 2008 - 09:52 AM) *
*Gatorade pulled their sponsorship after reviewing episode 4, they waited to make their own conclusion and did not want to be associated with such a show.

We have watched the episode in question, and we too were surprised and saddened to see the conversations unfold between these trainers. Since this episode aired, we have heard from many viewers of The Workout who are also consumers of our product, and we understand and relate to your disappointment in what occurred.

We have notified Bravo we no longer wish to be associated with The Workout and will be pulling our commercials. Furthermore, we will not renew our sponsorship of this program in subsequent seasons. Please note, because this season's episodes, and past seasons' episodes, have already been filmed and edited, moving forward you may still continue to see Propel used in the show.

We take very seriously the concerns you have shared, and we understand why there is discomfort for our consumers with an association of Propel and The Workout, given the unfortunate events that unfolded during this week's episode. We hope our immediate actions send a clear message to the community that we greatly value what you have to say, agree with your sentiments, and appreciate you taking the time to share your concerns with us.

Gerri
Gatorade Consumer Response

*SOYJOY pulled ads until they could review episode 4, took until yesterday after they had viewed the episode to fully pull their sponsorship of Work Out.

We have asked Bravo not to air our SOYJOY commercials on Workout until we have had the opportunity to view the episode in question. As an advertiser, we select networks which appeal to a varying group of people but do not have the opportunity to view individual TV episodes prior to their airdates. We have requested a copy of the episode from Bravo and will review it this week.

After Review:

We viewed the clip and we will not be running commercials on Workout or the Workout section of the Bravo website.

Sincerely,
Wellness Advisor
Pharmavite, LLC
WA:268636-08


* Olivia - The Premier Travel and Entertainment Company for Lesbians pulled their sponsoship after they were poorly represented on the show, even though Bravo told them they would be portrayed in a positive way.

We have contacted Bravo regarding some of the content of Workout. We cannot control the final edit of the show, however, we were assured that the content relative to Olivia would be positive. We are not at all pleased with the final episode and will not allow Workout to be on any of our properties in the future

They all pulled sponsorship, but only after viewing the episodes for themselves.


Lorizh I'll save you the trouble biggrin.gif
Lorizh
QUOTE (PEELER @ May 16, 2008 - 02:36 PM) *
Hello everyone who would like to see a season 3 reunion show I know I sure would. I believe the real truth would come out! If you would like to see it you should write in ad express how you feel. I would sure love to do one! I want to thank all of you out there for standing up for me. I know there are a few of you out there that don't like me and think I am in the wrong but thats ok. You don't know the whole truth and how this woman really is in real life. I am not her to bash her I am only here to say thank you to all my loyal fans and to let you know don't worry I am just about to pitch my own show!



For those of you who didn't see it.
PEELER
QUOTE (d1gth1s @ May 16, 2008 - 02:18 PM) *
A visit from PEELER hehe....Well if Bravo won't do a reunion show, we can just have our own here in the forums.

Jackie's already been here(Dacia and Jack123), so if we can just get her to use her real name...

PEELER, one quick question if I may...Are you, Jamie and Rich under contract where you can't talk about what was said by Jackie? Supposedly Jamie posted on bodybuilding.com saying that Jackie was doing the talking with Lisa just chiming in, but it was removed so we don't know if that was for real.

Jamies Lawyers are getting ready to release a statement that is going to explain every last thing that was said. So don't you worry the truth will be set free very soon. They are just taking the right steps so no one get in an legal trouble. As for me I am going to let them handle it.
JCpalmsprings
Peeler ROCKS...

I went through the danger zone.... Top Gun


QUOTE (PEELER @ May 16, 2008 - 02:59 PM) *
Jamies Lawyers are getting ready to release a statement that is going to explain every last thing that was said. So don't you worry the truth will be set free very soon. They are just taking the right steps so no one get in an legal trouble. As for me I am going to let them handle it.
fg
QUOTE (PEELER @ May 16, 2008 - 03:59 PM) *
Jamies Lawyers are getting ready to release a statement that is going to explain every last thing that was said. So don't you worry the truth will be set free very soon. They are just taking the right steps so no one get in an legal trouble. As for me I am going to let them handle it.



We love you Peeler, we are doing this for you and every one else that Ms. Warner has bullied! And we're not going away, in case Bravo didn't notice. wub.gif
JCpalmsprings
PEELER

I need a Peelerbuilt Muscle'T in a medium too wear to the Gym can you work on that and get your Website Up.....
swiss74
Peeler,

Did you rent a space at Sky Sport from Jackie or did you work for her directly?
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