JCpalmsprings
May 16, 2008 - 03:55 PM
I need Muscle t's or do I show my true SC roots and just cut the sleeves off....
QUOTE (PEELER @ May 16, 2008 - 03:53 PM)

well go to www.peelerbuilt.com and buy one
JCpalmsprings
May 16, 2008 - 03:58 PM
Finally someone has noticed we are here... Thanks Brian...
over it
May 16, 2008 - 04:00 PM
QUOTE (PEELER @ May 16, 2008 - 03:16 PM)

Well guys I am off to train at my new gym www.bodyimage-la.com you will get to see it in next weeks episode. Till next time you guys keep up the support and I will talk to you soon.
Thanks for stoppin by, you don't want to be late like Gregg
WONDER WOMAN
May 16, 2008 - 04:00 PM
QUOTE (KariAna @ May 16, 2008 - 03:23 PM)

Thanks for asking. I am feeling about the same.
I hate how being sick messes with how people think.
Having awareness is such an important task and when
I get sick it is really difficult to be aware of stuff.
It takes me a lot longer to post things and still be
coherent.
As bizarre as this may sound, Jackie's ill fortune seems
to have begun some pretty cool frienships.
Kari Ana
Glad to hear that you're feeling better too, Kari Ana
iluvspongebob
May 16, 2008 - 04:13 PM
Sorry if this has already been answered, but I just saw a clip with Peeler & Greg Plitt saying they'll be doing their own show soon. Is this true? I'd love to watch. I'm a big fan of both.
JCpalmsprings
May 16, 2008 - 04:15 PM
Where did you see that clip????
QUOTE (missd88 @ May 16, 2008 - 04:13 PM)

Sorry if this has already been answered, but I just saw a clip with Peeler & Greg Plitt saying they'll be doing their own show soon. Is this true? I'd love to watch. I'm a big fan of both.
over it
May 16, 2008 - 04:19 PM
QUOTE (fgnelson @ May 16, 2008 - 03:42 PM)

Yikes! Just noticed that Soyjoy is on the Work Out page again...What's up with that?

They are still on Bravo's, but once you click to Work Out they are no longer sponsors. I have refreshed the page many times and don't see them on Work Out.
over it
May 16, 2008 - 04:21 PM
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 04:15 PM)

Where did you see that clip????

was not meant to be rude. much love and respect to JCpalmsprings
WONDER WOMAN
May 16, 2008 - 04:22 PM
pwb02..thanks a lot for the posting the comment from LA RAG MAG......You're the best.
It has been my great honor to to have been associated with such a wonderful group of people, working together for what we all felt, and feel is a moral, and just cause.....we have accomplished a lot.......I love you guys
Peeler stopping by was a big bonus. i will echo palmsprings in saying, it is nice that someone knows that we are here.
iluvspongebob
May 16, 2008 - 04:23 PM
It's at another site I go to called Jokersupdates.com. Check the forums & then the Workout forum.
WONDER WOMAN
May 16, 2008 - 04:28 PM
QUOTE (KatB @ May 16, 2008 - 04:51 PM)

I want one too.

MEE TOOOO...don't forget me
JCpalmsprings
May 16, 2008 - 04:29 PM
QUOTE (pwb02 @ May 16, 2008 - 04:21 PM)

fg
May 16, 2008 - 04:33 PM
QUOTE (pwb02 @ May 16, 2008 - 05:19 PM)

They are still on Bravo's, but once you click to Work Out they are no longer sponsors. I have refreshed the page many times and don't see them on Work Out.
No, it actually came up on this page...
over it
May 16, 2008 - 04:35 PM
QUOTE (fgnelson @ May 16, 2008 - 04:33 PM)

No, it actually came up on this page...

on that top banner?? I'll have to look for it. Thanks
I do see it, when you go to the work out boards it came up on the banner. Somebody must have forgotten to take it out of rotation.
NiCi
May 16, 2008 - 04:52 PM
QUOTE (Noel Rae @ May 16, 2008 - 04:25 PM)

OK, do we really believe this?? I want to, but I could call myself Peeler... I hope so, but don't know..
Click on the little picture of him and you will see!
IT IS HIM!!!
JCpalmsprings
May 16, 2008 - 04:55 PM
Ohiofarmgirl has missed everything today... Thats to bad... Hope to see her soon......
NiCi
May 16, 2008 - 04:55 PM
QUOTE (GracieFrop @ May 16, 2008 - 04:26 PM)

Oh yeah! Prove it!
I have Peeler as a friend on myspace. Send me a message and then I will believe you!

Click on the little picture of him on the post you are quoting, he is holding a piece of paper that has today's date on it... look at the expression on his face... IT IS HIM!! Doubt no more, he visited us ! (Trust me, I was reading with doubts too, but a picture IS worth a thousand words!!!!)
JCpalmsprings
May 16, 2008 - 04:58 PM
Oh no something is coming!!! Look down...
Yet another dose of Reality.... Get it????
NiCi
May 16, 2008 - 05:02 PM
QUOTE (PEELER @ May 16, 2008 - 04:38 PM)

I listen I was very mad at her and I was just talking out of anger. I didn't really mean that and for that I am sorry. 1 I would never ever ever hit a woman. 2 we all say things we don't mean sometimes. The thing is to be able to realize that you have done wrong and be able to say you know what "I'm Sorry" and mean it not just say it and that I am. I didn't mean to offend anyone out there and if I did am am sorry to each and everyone of you. You guys are just now getting to see what I have had to deal with for the past few years. I snapped and I wish I could go back and compose myself a little better and do it again. But we can't change the past nor predict the future we can only live for today. So I am here to try to make this world a better place 1 person at a time.
Thanks for that. It is what we have been saying... we don't expect perfection, because we are all imperfect humans, we just expect people to try and be caring and decent to eachother and when they fail, to own up to it and say they are sorry.
You don't dissapoint, Peeler (we knew you wouldn't!)! Thanks for visiting us. Yep, we have been taking some hits lately, but (as you are well aware of!) that happens when you stand up for what is right!
JCpalmsprings
May 16, 2008 - 05:04 PM
OMG we got lucky!!! nothing True and no Reality...
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 04:58 PM)

Oh no something is coming!!! Look down...
Yet another dose of Reality.... Get it????
ctmum
May 16, 2008 - 05:11 PM
Go to post number 1198, click on the pix it's him.
How cute is he, look at his face.
d1gth1s
May 16, 2008 - 05:12 PM
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 05:04 PM)

OMG we got lucky!!! nothing True and no Reality...
truereality's probably franticly calling Jackie to tell her PEELER showed up...maybe Dacia and Jack123 will be back?
NiCi
May 16, 2008 - 05:15 PM
QUOTE (WONDER WOMAN @ May 16, 2008 - 05:22 PM)

pwb02..thanks a lot for the posting the comment from LA RAG MAG......You're the best.
It has been my great honor to to have been associated with such a wonderful group of people, working together for what we all felt, and feel is a moral, and just cause.....we have accomplished a lot.......I love you guys
Peeler stopping by was a big bonus. i will echo palmsprings in saying, it is nice that someone knows that we are here.
It was AWESOME!
And has been AWSEOME getting to know you all! Who knew that something that started like this would bring together such a neat group of people - so very different, but feeling strongly about what is right, which really makes us not so very different after all.
And isn't that what it is really all about - not what makes us different (although we can appreciate and celebrate our differences - would be pretty boring if we were all alike!) but what we share. No room for hate in this (and that is what our detractors can't seem to understand).
Anyway, lets celebrate with cookies for all!
JCpalmsprings
May 16, 2008 - 05:20 PM
Bring it!!! After PEELER'S visit I worked out... I am ready... although he is not on our TV anymore, he can still motivate....
QUOTE (d1gth1s @ May 16, 2008 - 05:12 PM)

truereality's probably franticly calling Jackie to tell her PEELER showed up...maybe Dacia and Jack123 will be back?
JCpalmsprings
May 16, 2008 - 05:24 PM
Breaking News......
Peeler has updated his Blog....
Check it out.....
NiCi
May 16, 2008 - 05:29 PM
QUOTE (LiaminLB @ May 16, 2008 - 03:14 PM)

OK, I know this is going to seem like a long diatribe but stick with me.
As someone who was FIRED from job after being "too out" (my boss's words) at work, I find people accusing me of being homophobic quite insulting. (I was official fired for "Poor Job Performance" after several employees refused to work with me.)
When I filed a complaint with the California Dept. of Fair Labor & Housing, my "case worker" asked "why did you tell them you were gay?"
I explained that someone at work inquired if I had a girlfriend. And I answered truthfully.
During subsequent conversations, he repeatedly asked why I said anything about being gay.
He then said "Well I don't talk about my sex life at work"!
To which I responded "Stating I am gay is not talking about my "sex life" any more than someone else mentioning their spouse or announcing a pregnancy is talking about sex".
He stated that I shouldn't have said anything if they couldn't "tell I was gay". Especially if they might be upset by my being gay.
I tried explaining to him that just because someone doesn't know I'm Jewish or Mexican etc., why should I hide these basic facts about myself? He then said "I have many cases I'm working on- I'll get back to you".
I later called him to inquire about my case (this was a year later). He stated that my case was closed- I stated that I hadn't heard back from them and he told me to hold on- he put the phone down- (not on hold) and I heard him open a file drawer- he picked up the phone and said "I have your file right here, I've been working on your case today".
Long story short- I received a letter stating that I had no proof and that my former employers claimed I made "inappropriate and offensive remarks at work". When I called my Case worker and asked "if I had made any inappropriate comments, why wasn't I fired for sexual harassment?" He said "Just saying you are gay, someone could find offensive".
I of course reported his comments to his supervisor who told me she found that surprising because he handles many gay & lesbian cases. To which I asked "how many has found in favor of?".
I reported this to every Gay & Lesbian Rights Organization I could find and if I received a response at all, it was "your case is too hard to prove and/or your case is not big enough".
So I finally gave up and moved on- but let me tell you, being fired is extremely stressful. Being fired due to outright bigotry and ignorance and then being told "there is nothing you can do" is devastating.
BTW I am a 40 year old gay man who has been out since I was 16. I have never felt that my sexual identity has hurt me or held me back in my professional life, until this incident.
I am so sorry to hear that this happened to you. Wrong is just wrong! I am glad that you followed up on it as you did, but sorry that the system treated you the way it did. We think that the system works as it should all the time, but unfortunately it does not some of the time (more often than we might think) and you got caught in one of those times. I hope what this has meant for you is that you have found a much better job with more wonderful coworkers who can appreciate you for who you are!
Lorizh
May 16, 2008 - 05:37 PM
QUOTE (pwb02 @ May 16, 2008 - 03:54 PM)

Lorizh I'll save you the trouble

Why thank you PWb!! Somehow, I still think they won't get it. I think they all related to the show and Jackie somehow because normal people could not watch that episode and get anything else out of it except that it was disgraceful.
BooglieOoglie
May 16, 2008 - 05:39 PM
Hi all.
After 48 hours of trying to get approved and on this board, here I am. I fought hard to get here. Then I had to search for an active board. Bravo not encouraging open discussion?
I was so disgusted with what happened with Jamie Eason(and thus Peeler). I believe Jackie Warner said those comments. I see no reason for her assistant, and for Eason's boyfriend to lie. I am also amazed at the weird editing in that episode. We have what is going on before, and after but not during. Where is that footage? Bravo is hiding it for later? Jackie ordered it erased? Perhaps Bravo just doesn't know what to do with it yet. What is with ignoring someone's doctor's orders, and taking up for late, rude trainers, who are not doing their jobs, because the large girl is emotional? I would be emotional if my 200 plus dollar an hour trainer was constantly late, and not available for my personal questions.
Yes, I signed that petion. If she is a lesbian icon, she is a negative one.
In that gym, Ms. Warner comes first, making money for her comes second, using her staff for her sexual amusement comes third, and truly helping people might get a side note.
NiCi
May 16, 2008 - 05:42 PM
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 05:55 PM)

Ohiofarmgirl has missed everything today... Thats to bad... Hope to see her soon......
I sent her a PM telling her Peeler had been here and to get her butt on the board! Maybe she is cleaning kitty pans, or maybe she is still in Californee gettin hitched!
BLAHvo
May 16, 2008 - 05:43 PM
Ack... darn I missed Peeler! Great to hear the real story coming out through proper channels (legally) it should put asside any further arguments from... (you know who.)
Speaking of which...
QUOTE (d1gth1s @ May 16, 2008 - 06:12 PM)

truereality's probably franticly calling Jackie to tell her PEELER showed up...maybe Dacia and Jack123 will be back?
Just check the dates and times they and any new posters join here with the same tone of their posts, attacks and tired old rhetoric grasping at straws. Its hardly a coincidence.
We have been here for over a week complaining over the events of that episode and only the past few days have "they" come to try and shut us up. Because sponsors are pulling out the show may be in jeopardy to the extent some people (read: not veiwers) have something considerable to loose now.
Between that and the content of certain posts, it hints its someone or a few on the show still and only reinforces more disgusting behavior. Their posts have been so nasty and malicious against us, the very veiwers of this show, for having an opinion and to Peeler sugesting his friendship with Doug wasnt genuine.
Every day I grow more disgusted with Jackie and that show. No redeeming qualities and still can just be a decent human being after the fact.
truereality
May 16, 2008 - 05:45 PM
LiaminLB, you are self-hating if your story is true. No self-respecting gay person would support a person that said "She wants to walk like a man and talk like a man, then she can get f*cking beat like a man." Lesbians have had similar things yelled at them for expressing their gender other than feminine. A socially aware gay person would know the risks they face in leading a business. I am also betting that you have been single most of your life.
Brian is a hanger on if username PEELER is actually Brian Peeler which I suspect it is. In next week's episode he once again confronts Jackie for the umteenth time. He wants a reunion show so he can further leach off Jackie's success.
I hope Greg Plitt goes with Brian. They are two peas in a pod; real life Butabi brothers. The show is bound to fail if it even makes it to air.
If Jaime Eason is really talking with attorneys than this thing has reached a whole new level of outrageousness. You can't sue someone or force them to apologize for talking about your breast implants.
Please support Work Out and Jackie Warner by signing this petition. Thank you.
http://www.petitiononline.com/adga2343/petition.html
Snagglepuss
May 16, 2008 - 05:51 PM
QUOTE (NiCi @ May 16, 2008 - 05:29 PM)

I am so sorry to hear that this happened to you. Wrong is just wrong! I am glad that you followed up on it as you did, but sorry that the system treated you the way it did. We think that the system works as it should all the time, but unfortunately it does not some of the time (more often than we might think) and you got caught in one of those times. I hope what this has meant for you is that you have found a much better job with more wonderful coworkers who can appreciate you for who you are!
Thanks for the kind words- I appreciate that. I DID have many wonderful friends at work. And most agreed to testify about my treatment from my boss (creating a hostile work environment), but I had only worked there 4 months and by the time it was investigated (1 year later) they were less than willing. Which I really can't blame them for. They needed to protect their own positions and families.
But I'm much better now- HA HA! Don't mean to sound bitter.
I guess Jackie's treatment of Peeler and his termination really hit home for me!
Just HATE when people call this Jackie backlash- gay bashing!
JCpalmsprings
May 16, 2008 - 05:52 PM
I new reality was coming and its all true... LOL
I know Liam! He is kind, considerate and genuine....
Now there is your Real dose of True Reality....
Noel Rae
May 16, 2008 - 05:58 PM
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 05:52 PM)

I new reality was coming and its all true... LOL
I know Liam! He is kind, considerate and genuine....
Now there is you Real dose of True Reality....
Yeah, but if you don't really have grounds to stand on & you just want to cause trouble, aperently you just lash out at people personally & try & bring them down. Aren't we all impressed with TR now?? ooo baby!
iluvspongebob
May 16, 2008 - 05:59 PM
I'm just one person who will be hanging on to watch any show with Brian Peeler or Greg Plitt. Heck, I may watch any show that any of the other trainers are on. All except for Jackie Warner. I'd rather watch a show of people actually working out & are treated with respect by the gym owners and trainers. I look forward to anything with Mr. Peeler. At least he admits his flaws & mistakes, owns them & apologizes for them. That kind of attitude can only bring positive things. I'll bet one thing, he won't make the mistake of thinking that his success was only because of him. Most successful people surround themselves with people that will lift them up, & will want them to become successful along with themselves. I wish Brian Peeler all the success in the world.
Noel Rae
May 16, 2008 - 06:03 PM
Sorry that was a little bit mean spirited,
Hey we have an anonymous viewer..my first one oh my!
Lorizh
May 16, 2008 - 06:05 PM
QUOTE (PEELER @ May 16, 2008 - 04:16 PM)

Well guys I am off to train at my new gym www.bodyimage-la.com you will get to see it in next weeks episode. Till next time you guys keep up the support and I will talk to you soon.
Peeler we love and support you 100%

we're behind you getting your own show and cannot wait to see a real workout show without the bs and watch real trainers care about their clients and not degrade them.
In regards to Jamie and her lawyer's making statements good for her for taking not only the high road but the correct route in all this. The both of you have so much class and thanks for the email and for stopping by to keep us updated incase I didn't mention it...You're the bomb diggity!!
d1gth1s
May 16, 2008 - 06:09 PM
QUOTE (truereality @ May 16, 2008 - 05:45 PM)

If Jaime Eason is really talking with attorneys than this thing has reached a whole new level of outrageousness. You can't sue someone or force them to apologize for talking about your breast implants.
I don't know why I bother with you truereality. I might as well go talk to a post.
true...You're not too smart if you think Jamie is going to sue or try and force an apology. This is the USA, you don't get sued for making derogatory comments about other people. None of Jackie's comments made it to air so Jamie can't sue for slander either.
All I took from PEELER's comments is that Jamie is working with her lawyers to make sure that what she says publicly does not put her in any legal trouble. I'm sure the contract she signed to appear on Bravo had some stipulations regarding what you could disclose about the show and the taping.
So truereality(Jackie?), you can tell Jackie(your alter ego) that at least she doesn't have to worry about that. I'm wondering if that's why the comments were buried and not aired. Maybe Jamie would have a case for slander if they had been.
Hmmm....I wonder if I hit the nail on the head?
KatB
May 16, 2008 - 06:13 PM
QUOTE (truereality @ May 16, 2008 - 05:45 PM)

LiaminLB, you are self-hating if your story is true. No self-respecting gay person would support a person that said "She wants to walk like a man and talk like a man, then she can get f*cking beat like a man." Lesbians have had similar things yelled at them for expressing their gender other than feminine. A socially aware gay person would know the risks they face in leading a business. I am also betting that you have been single most of your life.
Brian is a hanger on if username PEELER is actually Brian Peeler which I suspect it is. In next week's episode he once again confronts Jackie for the umteenth time. He wants a reunion show so he can further leach off Jackie's success.
I hope Greg Plitt goes with Brian. They are two peas in a pod; real life Butabi brothers. The show is bound to fail if it even makes it to air.
If Jaime Eason is really talking with attorneys than this thing has reached a whole new level of outrageousness. You can't sue someone or force them to apologize for talking about your breast implants.
Please support Work Out and Jackie Warner by signing this petition. Thank you.
http://www.petitiononline.com/adga2343/petition.htmlOMG Is that you Jackie ? You have a whole 6 signautres on your petition nice work! I would pay to see that beat down!
BooglieOoglie
May 16, 2008 - 06:15 PM
Greetings LiaminLB,
Nice to see you over from IMDB. I have read LiaminLB's post's with interest. I don't see how someone could call someone selfhating without personally knowing them. I am a lesbian, and I think Jackie was so wrong in that situation. She is at the very least responsible for what is said in her gym, especially about paying clients. She did not handle Peeler in any professional way. As the trainer of a client who had done nothing to deserve such sexual comments being said about them, he had the responsibility to ask what had actually happened. He stood up for his breast cancer survivor client, who is extremely famous in the fitness world. If Jackie did not know who she was, then she is very ill informed about her own field. She had been on most major fitness magazines, and in quite a few articles. Since this woman being unhappy could have negatively affected Peeler's future, the gym's future, and how they are all percieved in the fitness world, he had a duty to ask, but I think he did it out of human decency.
As for LiaminLB, I find their comments, well thought out, well phrased, and even tempered.(Spelling is quite exceptional also.)
Just a foot note, lesbians and gays are unique as any other group, and insulting each other, and typing each other because you don't like what someone feels, is what I thought we were trying to get away from.
Snagglepuss
May 16, 2008 - 06:21 PM
QUOTE (truereality @ May 16, 2008 - 05:45 PM)

LiaminLB, you are self-hating if your story is true. No self-respecting gay person would support a person that said "She wants to walk like a man and talk like a man, then she can get f*cking beat like a man." Lesbians have had similar things yelled at them for expressing their gender other than feminine. A socially aware gay person would know the risks they face in leading a business. I am also betting that you have been single most of your life.
Brian is a hanger on if username PEELER is actually Brian Peeler which I suspect it is. In next week's episode he once again confronts Jackie for the umteenth time. He wants a reunion show so he can further leach off Jackie's success.
I hope Greg Plitt goes with Brian. They are two peas in a pod; real life Butabi brothers. The show is bound to fail if it even makes it to air.
If Jaime Eason is really talking with attorneys than this thing has reached a whole new level of outrageousness. You can't sue someone or force them to apologize for talking about your breast implants.
Please support Work Out and Jackie Warner by signing this petition. Thank you.
http://www.petitiononline.com/adga2343/petition.htmlI don't condone violence against anyone, man or woman. The point I was trying to make was regarding the hypocrisy of people saying "She's a WOMAN!" "A man can't say that to a WOMAN!"
Peeler apologized, He was PISSED!
I know from very real experience how angry you can become at a boss who is unwilling to hear your point of view, dismisses you condescendingly and fires you without any real cause!
Pay attention to movies, TV etc.
Look how many times a WOMAN slaps (physical violence) a MAN for making a (verbal) comment! Now show a MAN threaten to hit a woman and people are up in arms.
But as an openly gay man (who probably loves himself a little TOO much by the way- thank you for asking), who was raised by a mother and 5 sisters.
I think I have a pretty liberal, feminist attitude.
I'm just not one to say "if you're not part of the community - you can't say certain things". I believe if it's OK for 1 person to say something it's OK for everyone (how's that for liberal?). Peeler has proven to be a friend of the community and I would give him an award (much like GLAAD did to Kathy Griffin)-(it hurts, doesn't it Jackie)- (I guess GLAAD is homophobic too) long before I would give one to Jackie!
Lorizh
May 16, 2008 - 06:22 PM
QUOTE (NiCi @ May 16, 2008 - 06:42 PM)

I sent her a PM telling her Peeler had been here and to get her butt on the board! Maybe she is cleaning kitty pans, or maybe she is still in Californee gettin hitched!
She's making cookies remember?!! Darn, I'm sure he'll be back...he'll be back..
Lorizh
May 16, 2008 - 06:27 PM
QUOTE (truereality @ May 16, 2008 - 06:45 PM)

LiaminLB, you are self-hating if your story is true. No self-respecting gay person would support a person that said "She wants to walk like a man and talk like a man, then she can get f*cking beat like a man." Lesbians have had similar things yelled at them for expressing their gender other than feminine. A socially aware gay person would know the risks they face in leading a business. I am also betting that you have been single most of your life.
Brian is a hanger on if username PEELER is actually Brian Peeler which I suspect it is. In next week's episode he once again confronts Jackie for the umteenth time. He wants a reunion show so he can further leach off Jackie's success.
I hope Greg Plitt goes with Brian. They are two peas in a pod; real life Butabi brothers. The show is bound to fail if it even makes it to air.
If Jaime Eason is really talking with attorneys than this thing has reached a whole new level of outrageousness. You can't sue someone or force them to apologize for talking about your breast implants.
Please support Work Out and Jackie Warner by signing this petition. Thank you.
http://www.petitiononline.com/adga2343/petition.htmlSHUT UP! How DARE you attack Liamin?!! He's a DECENT human being, why do you have to drag his sexuality into this you low life?! You are definitely one of Jackie's friends and I'm going for Jesse or JD and you should watch your smart mouth. There are so many great people here on this board and we did what we believed was right without insulting YOU personally. You came here to start with us and to spew your hate speech well guess what honey, we're not going to take it.
PS NICE PETITION 6 and still (NOT) counting! lol
Now be gone before someone drops a house on you too!
Lorizh
May 16, 2008 - 06:31 PM
QUOTE (LiaminLB @ May 16, 2008 - 07:21 PM)

I don't condone violence against anyone, man or woman. The point I was trying to make was regarding the hypocrisy of people saying "She's a WOMAN!" "A man can't say that to a WOMAN!"
Peeler apologized, He was PISSED!
I know from very real experience how angry you can become at a boss who is unwilling to hear your point of view, dismisses you condescendingly and fires you without any real cause!
Pay attention to movies, TV etc.
Look how many times a WOMAN slaps (physical violence) a MAN for making a (verbal) comment! Now show a MAN threaten to hit a woman and people are up in arms.
But as an openly gay man (who probably loves himself a little TOO much by the way- thank you for asking), who was raised by a mother and 5 sisters.
I think I have a pretty liberal, feminist attitude.
I'm just not one to say "if you're not part of the community - you can't say certain things". I believe if it's OK for 1 person to say something it's OK for everyone (how's that for liberal). Peeler has proven to be a friend of the community and I would give him an award (much like GLAAD did to Kathy Griffin)-(it hurts doesn't Jackie)- (I guess GLAAD is homophobic too) long before I would give one to Jackie!
Liam, don't even give True (un)reality the time of day, they're bitter and evil and don't know how to play nice. Oh and did I mention DESPERATE for their job??
Peeler is a stand up guy and I could careless what he said about Jackie, she deserved every word of it and more. He would never hit her, but she sure deserved it. She fired the guy for doing the right thing and if True unRealistic doesn't get that...then oh well, they have no scrupples. So don't defend yourself against a bully, they're not worth your time.
Besides, you're going to be the new hot Massage Therapist on our own reality show here on the board! lol
Lorizh
May 16, 2008 - 06:33 PM
QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 16, 2008 - 07:15 PM)

Greetings LiaminLB,
Nice to see you over from IMDB. I have read LiaminLB's post's with interest. I don't see how someone could call someone selfhating without personally knowing them. I am a lesbian, and I think Jackie was so wrong in that situation. She is at the very least responsible for what is said in her gym, especially about paying clients. She did not handle Peeler in any professional way. As the trainer of a client who had done nothing to deserve such sexual comments being said about them, he had the responsibility to ask what had actually happened. He stood up for his breast cancer survivor client, who is extremely famous in the fitness world. If Jackie did not know who she was, then she is very ill informed about her own field. She had been on most major fitness magazines, and in quite a few articles. Since this woman being unhappy could have negatively affected Peeler's future, the gym's future, and how they are all percieved in the fitness world, he had a duty to ask, but I think he did it out of human decency.
As for LiaminLB, I find their comments, well thought out, well phrased, and even tempered.(Spelling is quite exceptional also.)
Just a foot note, lesbians and gays are unique as any other group, and insulting each other, and typing each other because you don't like what someone feels, is what I thought we were trying to get away from.
Hi, I'm Lazacka over on the IMDB board

Welcome!
JCpalmsprings
May 16, 2008 - 06:35 PM
Oh I believe everything she has to say! LOL After all she is in her own True Reality...
Best responce...
Thank you for the mention...
NiCi
May 16, 2008 - 06:36 PM
QUOTE (Lorizh @ May 16, 2008 - 07:22 PM)

She's making cookies remember?!! Darn, I'm sure he'll be back...he'll be back..
I told her to get over here and that we would make the cookies to celebrate... I guess I had better get baking!!!
Lorizh
May 16, 2008 - 06:40 PM
Deenie's working out with Peeler now!!! Go look at his myspace, she's on there!
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...32-f571ce2a93bd
JCpalmsprings
May 16, 2008 - 06:45 PM
True is sitting in her office at Skylab! She lost all of her clients and trainer and has nothing to do...
Please feel sorry for her and ignore her...
She will go away...
Snagglepuss
May 16, 2008 - 06:47 PM
Hey peeps, thanks for the love! But for the record I don't know if it's justified yet (I can be a "right bloody bastard"-to quote my Irish grandmother-at times). So i will endeavor to live up to the high ideal.
I wasn't going to ever post anything about my sexual identity. But then I started reading the posts claiming everyone here was homophobic!
I felt the need to share my tale.
I felt that coming on these boards and proclaiming "I'm GAY" and that's why my opinion should count more, would seem disingenuous. Much like Jackie's "I have cancer in my family" apology-by-way-of-explanation.
I am not here complaining about Jackie BECAUSE I am GAY.
I am not here complaining about Jackie BECAUSE she is a LESBIAN.
I am here because Jackie Warner has repeatedly acted in the most irresponsible and outrageous manner I have ever seen! I felt compelled to write to Bravo and complain- long before ever posting online.
It is really cool by the way to find this community of like minded individuals and share our opinions and ideas.
And we all have the right to our opinions, even poor misunderstood (in her estimation) Ms. Warner, we just don't have to line her pockets with our money by sponsoring her horrible actions.
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