Actually, the house landed on the Good Witch of the East.
The Wicked Witch of the West melted.

Sorry Lori
I couldn;t help it either.....

I love the flying Monkeys.....

True, however....it was said to the wicked witch of the west before she was melted and the wicked witch of the east had just had a house dropped on her

So....it wouldn't bother me if she were melted, house dropped or fell into a bottomless pit as long as he/she be gone...

lol, maybe we should start a 12 step program...I think we both have about 11 steps left right? lmao

the flying monkeys are totally CREEPY!- which is probably why I love them too. HAHA!

That is good news. She deserves someone that will actually see her on time, care about her health, and support her.
If I was a lawyer with free time, I would be hunting down Deenie and ask her if she wanted some money. Pain, suffering at the hands of a "professional" who ignored another "professional's"(MD, Doctor) advice, possibly causing permanent damage. Not to mention emotional distress caused by the unasked for group session. If there is any money left.
I know Deenie needs to lose weight(and has hidden behind complaints) but she did have an honest injury. (At least 250 lbs on a fractured leg, with tendon damage, A 95lb person would be in pain)I have no idea why the huge, state of the art gym, does not have water aerobics?!? She cannot be the only client in need of low impact exercise because of an injury.

Howdy Lorizh, thanks for the welcome.

check this out

Jackie Warner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Brian was fired for his two years of disrespect and insubordination. As Jackie pointed out on the beach saying it was not because of his training skills, it was for his insubordination (he wanted to train the client in a parking lot).

Women and men are built differently. Women have twice the nerve receptors as men so they feel pain more than men. It is unfair to hit a women in almost any situation. Only on extremely rare occasions (like threatening the life of a child) would it be justified.

LiaminLB, I did not say gay people can say one thing while straight people can say another which you implied I did. I want consistancy. The reaction to this episode has not been consistant with that of similiar incidents. It's been extreme.



I came here to defend Jackie against the extreme attacks leveled against her mainly because of her sexuality. Most will deny that's the case though.

Thanks for the heads up regarding LyingDramaMama- I mean truereality.....

I shall indeed learn to ignore him/her/it.

OK forgive me guys, I couldn't resist (I need to pace myself, build up my resistence slowly- like you folks have....)

From Spy Snort & Lie :"The reaction to this episode has not been consistant with that of similiar incidents. It's been extreme."

I would like to paraphrase "fan favorite" Peeler for a moment. "it's like a pot boiling over, eventually it's gonna explode".

Well Jackie, YOU turned up the heat.... the pot boiled over..... & YOU got burned!!!!!!

OMG! MS. True, Please take a dose of REALITY! No Body cares about Jackie's freakin sexual preference...For the love of God...you are embarrassing yourself...Stop.

Well, I guess the theory that it can't be true because there is no media coverage of it has just been blown out of the water! We knew this, but it is nice to have confirmation...

JC, where is farmgirl? We need Farmgirl.

I don't know, I hope her GF didn't make her clean the kitty litter. Thats not her Job and maybe she's stuck in there... hmmm

Yes I just read Deenie's blog and she talks about what happened at the retreat and all and how she felt attacked even though she was trying and they didn't show that part. It's funny you should mention the pool at the gym because Deenie said she LOVED the pool workout with Greg. I have 4 herniated discs in my spine (waiting on back surgery ) but I can do the treadmill, pilates, light weights and POOL and my gym has it all and believe me I only pay 150 a MONTH not an HOUR and from what I hear Warner charges 400 an hour. I'm sorry no trainer is worth that unless you can lie down in bed have them do the workout and you get the results I know some state of the art gym that this woman boasts about building with her own hands...please..the only thing special about it was Peeler and Plit (a few other choice trainers too, 3 no longer there) imo.

Greg Plitt is NOT listed at Sky Sport & Spa as a trainer. Everyone else from the show is (even Andre -remember him?). Oh wait JD is not listed either.

I don't remember ever seeing Plitt listed as one of HER trainers. So looks like she truly has no good trainers there.

OH SNAP! lol umm..she's a woman beater too huh? Her exgirlfriend said she put her in the hospital twice?! Wow, she needs some serious help. I guess if she can beat another woman, why can't she be beat?

Try a little harder! They are not listed on the scroll but if you click on the trainers, they are both listed...

OUCH!!!! 4 herniated discs....Poor baby... i will do some distance Reiki healing on it tonighT for now, have a cookie.
Deenie said in her last weeks, blog that a specialist, that she saw about the ankle injury, told her to stay off the ankle for 6 weeks ( no weight bearing at all) she then talked to Jackie about it. Jackie said that they would work around it......I don't get it......you do not do a boot campthen.period'
In my email to dolphinbay resort, i asked them if they saw the episode shot at their resort. i asked if they were not worried about injury lawsuits....i have not received a reply from them, but i simply do not inderstand what in the WORLD Deenie was doing there, at all , given what her doctor told her about her injury..... is any body else wondering about that?? Has any body heard from the resort???????????????

[quote name='truereality' date='May 16, 2008 - 07:05 PM' post='253311']
Brian was fired for his two years of disrespect and insubordination. As Jackie pointed out on the beach saying it was not because of his training skills, it was for his insubordination (he wanted to train the client in a parking lot).

Women and men are built differently. Women have twice the nerve receptors as men so they feel pain more than men. It is unfair to hit a women in almost any situation. Only on extremely rare occasions (like threatening the life of a child) would it be justified." unquote

I have never up to this point mentioned my sexuality on a message board. I consider it a private thing. I also find kissing(passionate kissing) in public in poor taste in most situations because I think that is personal also. I respect and support anyone who wants to shout it from the rooftops, but it is just not for me. I did that to make the point I was not upset at her behavior because she is a lesbian, but because of her behavior. She has slept with her employees. She has supported an employee of hers who was constantly late to train one of her clients, who did not call back her client, unlike the other trainers who went went the extra mile to support their assigned clients. She called her client emotional, dismissing any of her comments. She ignored her client's doctor's orders(not suggestions, orders), and being a licenced professional, she is professionally responsible for advicing Deenie to do exercises that could cause her a life long disability. She put her at risk for a DVT, stroke, death, or worse being in a coma for the rest of her life. She did not instruct her trainer to do low impact workout with Deenie. Weight training for her upper body, stretches, yoga, water aerobics, all could have been safely done, and would have helped her, and her self esteem. Instead she puts an obese woman, out of shape, with a severe leg injury in sand, stressing out the injury even more.
Women may have more pain receptors, but women are built to handle pain better then men (childbirth) so that kills your argument about never hitting a woman. No one should hit anyone in anger. I find it sexist to think it is better to hit a man than a woman.
Sorry for the book.

thought i would post it again... I wonder if PEELER signed it.....

I find it hard to blieve that jackie did that..... Jackie's a BOTTOM ( from what i hear) Helium Heels.

The last time I was on a treadmill, it shot me out the back and I would have hit the wall if the tech had not been there. It was on the lowest setting. Those things scare me!!! More power to ya.

Sorry about the pain, I hope all goes well with the surgery.

Anonymous viewing

Andy is that you????

Don't you know True, that we're all just Jackie under cover! We can't possibly have our own opinions and think that these hateful people have taken this too far! No one will answer your questions about why they don't write letters and spend day after day and hour after hour spewing hate about straight men and women on television who degrade. They'll just change the subject and say that Jackie shouldn't treat employees that way. Like it's any of their f*cking business! It's not!

I'm sorry but the issue isn't about Jackie's sexuality but I do have an issue with Brian's overall Homophobia and anyone who defends that idiot is most likely a total bigot. Doug B. only befriended Brian on the show! Doug had so many close friends and yet the only who exploited and used him for publicity was Brian Peeler! Doug grew up in LA, graduated from USC and you morons believe that somehow Brian was really "close" to Doug? It was insulting to the people who spent years by Doug's side and knew him on a very intimate level.
Once again Jamie Eason and her boyfriend Rich have yet to make a comment or statement. You know why? I do. They think Brian Peeler is a dumbsh1t cling-on who is also using them. Rich isn't friends with Brian. He barely knew him. Do you f*cktards even know who Rich is? Well, I'm not going to help you but I will tell you that he's a successful musician in an up and coming popular band who has toured with some big names and spends most of his time in New York. He doesn't want to spend his time or draw attention to the Brian Peeler "I'm so f*cking desperate" show! Jamie and Rich are trying to distance themselves from this and from Peeler but you no-lifers just keep riding the Peeler train who posts here and signs your petition. HE HAS NOTHING GOING ON! HE ALIENATES HIMSELF FROM ALL WHO HAVE KNOWN, MET OR BEEN NEAR HIM!
Deenie? Ooooh Brian's training Deenie! That's impressive! Sorry, but Deenie is a morbidly obese young woman who blames her situation on everyone and everything else. When my sister died in my arms, I didn't eat my way through a hundred Krispy Kremes stores or start smoking 2 cartons of cigs a day. How would me being an excuse maker victim honor her? Give me a break. The only people defending Deenie are obese people who wish to justify who they are and claim to be victims of society. PAHLEASE! Get off your asses! I'm sorry her mother died and that is very sad but using her as an excuse is pathetic. Victims! Just a bunch of whiney victims!

Check out the article on today's BBC site!

Work Out's numbers haven't declined. The people watching and enjoying the show just aren't spending their days and nights trying to make sad online friends via a faux hate filled cause that no one of substance has even acknowledged!

Article: Obese blamed for the world's ills

Obese people are contributing to the world food crisis and climate change, experts say.

The London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine calculated the obese consume 18% more calories than average.

They are also responsible for using more fuel, which has an environmental impact and drives up food prices as transport and agriculture both use oil.

The result is that the poor struggle to afford food and greenhouse gas emissions rise, the Lancet reported.

It comes as the World Health Organization predicts the obese population will double by 2015 to 700m.

Transport and food policy and the importance of sustainable transport must not be overlooked
Dr Phil Edwards, report co-author

In the UK, nearly a quarter of adults are classed obese, twice as many as there were in the 1980s.

The team found that obese people require 1,680 daily calories to sustain normal energy and another 1,280 to maintain daily activities - a fifth more than normal.

The higher consumption of food has a two-fold effect, researchers said.

First of all the increasing demand for food, drives up production.

This means that agricultural processes are using more oil to meet demand, which contributes to the rising cost of fuel.

The cost of fuel is then passed on in the cost of food, making it more difficult for poorer areas to afford it.

Prices

What is more, the researchers said obese people are likely to rely on transport more and put more strain on that transport because of their mass, which again drives up prices and usage.

But the researchers said there was a solution.

Phil Edwards, who co-authored the article, said: "Urban transport policies that promote walking and cycling would reduce food prices by reducing the global demand for oil and promotion of a normal weight.

And they added: "Decreased car use would reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

"Transport and food policy and the importance of sustainable transport must not be overlooked."

But Dr David Haslam, of the National Obesity Forum, said it was "stretching it a bit" to blame the obese in the way that the study appeared to do. "Really, it is discriminatory towards obese people. They are an easy target at the moment, but I think the causes of climate change and rising food prices is much more complex."

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/health/7404268.stm

Published: 2008/05/16 09:59:04 GMT

Oops, you are right, guess I was being lazy just looking at scroll & not clicking on the menu.

Of course he has signed it. Multiple times no doubt! He's basically unemployed, has no friends so this is the only thing going for him. Why don't online tardo petitions work? Because all you need is a new proxy and you can sign it a billion times. Your petition is also coming from a tiny group of disgruntled people who have shown everyone here at this forum just what they're made of! Yes! YOU and this forum and turned the issue into a joke! Congratulations and thank you!

Thank you for the mention...

This just in...Mabelline New York is reviewing their sponsorship of Work Out.

Who would know better than you about time on their hands..Hell, it must be like lookin' in a mirror...........

Put your helmet on PEELER...it gets rough in here at night

Wow you know so much about so little. I saddens me that you think you know what you are talking about.

Great come back WW. I know you are but what am I. I'm rubber you're glue? You're smarter than that. I've read your posts. You're a notch up from most of the dolts who won't let go. You know Peeler is an idiot. You're right. I shouldn't be here but everytime I take a look, I'm just astounded by the lunacy that this thing has become and it doesn't matter what time I stop by, there are a few people who never leave! It's not right. I'm not proud of my rants but I've seen far worse things said about Jackie and her staff then anything I've said. I'd love to pick through everyone's life and see how perfect it is?

YAWN! I'm sorry -where was I?- I was reading a post by Diarrhea- I think that was the name (they were just going on & on.....) & I must have fallen asleep.....

Any who, just wanted to say, Great job with getting all of the sponsors like Olivia Cruises, Propel, Soyjoy etc. to listen to our homophobic self-hating gay/straight lifeless bloated-sack-of-protoplasm petition. Keep up the good work!

It seems we have also turned the lesbians at LOGO to our cause- wow! We are powerful!!!

I would bet a million bucks they knew nothing of Deenie's injury and Warner never said anything either because she wanted her perks of staying in a swanky resort along with the Deenie drama for her show. I don't expect to hear from the resort at all, but I'm sure they won't be attaching their name to Warner's in the future.

Yeah my discs suck, two of my fingers are completely numb and I'm in constant pain that is why I have to do some type of excersise to help me keep going.

Okay I'll have a cookie, I'm feeling a little bit better than yesterday no tossing the cookies today at all

Yep. Just keep telling yourself that.

gosh Lorizh,i still am thinkn' bout those 4 herniated discs of your...i will get a few other reiki practioner friends of mine to send you distance healing...............for now, have another cookie

So tell me what you think you know so I can set you straight with the real facts.

Like I said...put your pads on...this is a contact sport

fgnelson don't worry there is always someone out there who thinks they have a clue but they have no idea.

Do you guys really think that obesity is a disability and that obese people are discriminated against? You seem to have some idea that everyone hates fat people and that Jackie has some secret agenda. Deenie could have spoken up at any time about her Doctors' orders at anytime but she's fat so she must have been stifled by the fit people mafia? Is that it? Discrimination. You really think Peeler has always been a warm and fuzzy guy who is open to all kinds, shape, color and gender? Sorry to rain on your parade of delusion but the guy is an uneducated shallow tool. Do you not find it interesting that no one beyond the saps who visit his MySpace page and the people here defend him? Don't you find that odd? No one affiliated with the show, no one affiliated with Doug have had Brian's back and have been willing to step forward for him? Think about it. Maybe some sense will seep in.

Truereality: For the love of God and all that is Holy, please shut up!! I am a lesbian and have been in a relationship with my girlfriend for 20 years. We are ashamed and appalled at how Jackie has used her sexuality to exploit and use other women (gay or straight) for her own egotistical need for power and domination. She is not a role model nor does she represent the majority of lesbians that strive to love others, accept differences and live with integrity. Jackie lives like she has a revolving door on her pussy and she has the right to have anyone she wants to swing through that door, usually at their expense.

As for the person who said Jamie Eason and her boyfriend did not respond to the situation, you are mistaken. TMZ spoke with her and you can read her quote on askalesbian.blogspot.com. Jackie did talk about Jamie and laughed whole heartly when Lisa made the comment about rocks on Jamie's chest.

Again, truereality, do not speak for any other gay or lesbian. I can speak for myself and do so very well. As for this lesbian, Work Out done wore me out.

OH! Thank you!

So I guess that means that the people here who think that TMZ is a credible source (sad sad sad for you, Jamie and Rich haven't spoken to anyone) and the people here who think they have ANY idea about what really happened, and the people who think that they "know" Brian Peeler is a good guy, are idiots?

Yep. Me too.

Whats going on at LOGO???


WHEN BITTER ENTERS,I LEAVE (all 4 of them)... I am not playing their game.... I try to surround myself with positive energy and people...

Umm...OMG, you are one spiteful, hateful person and you know nothing about any of those people you spoke about so stop pretending will you? Say what you want about Peeler and Doug's relationship, but you know squat about it because you don't know them, right? You just want to come on here and spew your hatred and you sound like a bitter douche doing it. I happen to like Peeler because he was the only one on the show that actually trained people and NEVER made fun of his clients and always maintained his class. OBTW, read Peeler's response, Jamie & Rich's lawyer are preparing a statement and Jamie IS a friend of Peeler so whoever you think you know is beyond me.

Hey Liamin, I think I fell asleep too during Dacia's (jackie, erika or whoever she wishes she was) boring douchey speech, lol. I'm sick as a dog right now and I can smell her fear from here!!!

I just wanted to say....
I'm not here for my love of Peeler (no offense man, you seem really cool- but I don't KNOW you).

I am here because of my absolute loathing of "Jackie Warner: Star of Bravo's Work Out" as she is portrayed by the "real life" Jackie Warner (who I also don't know).

The character "Jackie Warner" (created by Bravo editors and other "powers-that-be"- out of "really positive footage" so I hear...HA HA!) as shown on Bravo's Work Out is a disgrace and deserves all the hatred directed at her.

He (PEELER) is positive and gives off good energy or you wouldn't be shouting....