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Qwacker
QUOTE (Dacia @ May 16, 2008 - 08:28 PM) *
OH! Thank you!

So I guess that means that the people here who think that TMZ is a credible source (sad sad sad for you, Jamie and Rich haven't spoken to anyone) and the people here who think they have ANY idea about what really happened, and the people who think that they "know" Brian Peeler is a good guy, are idiots?

Yep. Me too.


I have no idea what you just said. I think your anger angry.gif is getting the best of you. Are you saying that you also like Brian Peeler or are you saying I am an idiot? Just curious... cool.gif
over it
Dacia just needs some Love and Affection wub.gif
JCpalmsprings
[quote name='Dacia' date='May 16, 2008 - 08:28 PM' post='253409']
OH! Thank you!

So I guess that means that the people here who think that TMZ is a credible source (sad sad sad for you, Jamie and Rich haven't spoken to anyone) and the people here who think they have ANY idea about what really happened, and the people who think that they "know" Brian Peeler is a good guy, are idiots?

Yep. Me too.

Yep I am an IDIOT... As Cartman and Stan would say LMB.....
Snagglepuss
QUOTE (pwb02 @ May 16, 2008 - 08:37 PM) *
Dacia just needs some Love and Affection wub.gif


Send Lisa over to give her a hug.
over it
QUOTE (LiaminLB @ May 16, 2008 - 08:40 PM) *
Send Lisa over to give her a hug.

Lisa and Gregg biggrin.gif
JCpalmsprings
Someone is bitter, hateful and full of RAGE... Sorry you took this so personal...

Dacia needs a cookie
Qwacker
Hey Peeler...I loved how you let yourself be seen on the show when Doug was sick and how you aren't afraid to express your love for him. I've had some of my male clients watch the scene of you with the staff when you broke down when you were telling them how sick he was. I think it is important for men to see strong, buff guys expressing true grief and sorrow. Thanks for the vulnerabiliy. cool.gif
GracieFrop
QUOTE (LiaminLB @ May 16, 2008 - 07:57 PM) *
the flying monkeys are totally CREEPY!- which is probably why I love them too. HAHA!
blink.gif



I like the flying monkey music!
PEELER
QUOTE (Dacia @ May 16, 2008 - 08:28 PM) *
OH! Thank you!

So I guess that means that the people here who think that TMZ is a credible source (sad sad sad for you, Jamie and Rich haven't spoken to anyone) and the people here who think they have ANY idea about what really happened, and the people who think that they "know" Brian Peeler is a good guy, are idiots?

Yep. Me too.

So let me ask you this how do you know me. Another thing you know I thinks it funny that you are one of only lets say 10 or 11 people out there who think this way about what's going on. It is kind of like the old saying everyone has that ugly friend look at all you friends and find the ugly one if you can't find them you are the ugly one. What you are saying makes you a very mean and ugly person. I never wanted to see Jackie go down in flames all I ever wanted her to do is say I am sorry. I mean is it really so hard to do that. I am sorry if I have done something to upset you but I come from a good up bringing and we do not treat people like she did and you are doing now. It takes more energy to get angry than it does to get happy. If she would step up to the plate and say she was sorry and meant it. Well that would be very good for her.
WONDER WOMAN
QUOTE (Dacia @ May 16, 2008 - 09:09 PM) *
Great come back WW. I know you are but what am I. I'm rubber you're glue? You're smarter than that. I've read your posts. You're a notch up from most of the dolts who won't let go. You know Peeler is an idiot. You're right. I shouldn't be here but everytime I take a look, I'm just astounded by the lunacy that this thing has become and it doesn't matter what time I stop by, there are a few people who never leave! It's not right. I'm not proud of my rants but I've seen far worse things said about Jackie and her staff then anything I've said. I'd love to pick through everyone's life and see how perfect it is?

I don't think peeler is an idiot. Peeler is just Peeler, just tryin' to get thru life, and hoping to do

some right things along the way.....kind of like most of the folks on these boards. Trust me you have my word..I am not, nor will i try to change you....We are a pretty carring group here, and I feel that I can speek for most of us in saying that we support your well-being...Honey, if you know that you should not be here on these boards, because what you call lunacy, appears to offend you sense of order, we absolutely support you not coming here any more. Sounds to me that your serenity is compromised........I would offer you a cookie, but i don't want to reward bad behavior.( it's a personnel decision
Dacia
QUOTE (Lorizh @ May 16, 2008 - 06:30 PM) *
Umm...OMG, you are one spiteful, hateful person and you know nothing about any of those people you spoke about so stop pretending will you? Say what you want about Peeler and Doug's relationship, but you know squat about it because you don't know them, right? You just want to come on here and spew your hatred and you sound like a bitter douche doing it. I happen to like Peeler because he was the only one on the show that actually trained people and NEVER made fun of his clients and always maintained his class. OBTW, read Peeler's response, Jamie & Rich's lawyer are preparing a statement and Jamie IS a friend of Peeler so whoever you think you know is beyond me.

Hey Liamin, I think I fell asleep too during Dacia's (jackie, erika or whoever she wishes she was) boring douchey speech, lol. I'm sick as a dog right now and I can smell her fear from here!!!



Yeah, I'm spiteful and hateful. Uh-huh and I guess your on-going attacks are sweet and sticky? Great. I guess you also know everything that went on outside of your glimpse into the SkySport world? I guess you know Doug? I guess you'll be calling his pals to ask them why they didn't defend Brian? They thought Brian was pushy and out of line as well with the event but I guess you already know that or maybe one of them told you differently? Okay. Well, have fun with your imaginary cause.

By the way, Jamie Eason is a nice girl but she is by no means known to every person or trainer out there. Fitness modeling and competition isn't exactly held in a very high esteem with many trainers and athletes. It's like a pumped up version of a beauty pagent complete with fake tans, a scary ass hyper routine and a great deal of politics. Most trainers at SkySport wouldn't be caught dead near one of those events. Many bodybuilders are horrified by Fitness Competitions as well. So get over yourselves and your moral high horses. 99.9% of you didn't know who Jamie Eason was, that she didn't have a maesectomy, that her boyfriend is covered in tats and has a mohawk and you didn't have a clue what a fitness model or competition is. You're simply grasping for something more that just isn't there.
Everyone is human. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone has suffered pain and loss in their lives. YOU are the ones lacking in acceptance, compassion and the ability to move on or better yet, TURN THE CHANNEL!
Snagglepuss
Be careful posters- I hear there is a man out there with a mohawk and..... tattoos!
Sounds very scary! We should all hate him for this........


Ummmm (hopefully the sarcasm is duly noted).

I live in LA, you can't turn around without bumping into someone with a mohawk and/or tattoos. Oh my Gosh! Maybe I've bumped into Jamie's Beau!
Qwacker
QUOTE (Dacia @ May 16, 2008 - 08:46 PM) *
Yeah, I'm spiteful and hateful. Uh-huh and I guess your on-going attacks are sweet and sticky? Great. I guess you also know everything that went on outside of your glimpse into the SkySport world? I guess you know Doug? I guess you'll be calling his pals to ask them why they didn't defend Brian? They thought Brian was pushy and out of line as well with the event but I guess you already know that or maybe one of them told you differently? Okay. Well, have fun with your imaginary cause.

By the way, Jamie Eason is a nice girl but she is by no means known to every person or trainer out there. Fitness modeling and competition isn't exactly held in a very high esteem with many trainers and athletes. It's like a pumped up version of a beauty pagent complete with fake tans, a scary ass hyper routine and a great deal of politics. Most trainers at SkySport wouldn't be caught dead near one of those events. Many bodybuilders are horrified by Fitness Competitions as well. So get over yourselves and your moral high horses. 99.9% of you didn't know who Jamie Eason was, that she didn't have a maesectomy, that her boyfriend is covered in tats and has a mohawk and you didn't have a clue what a fitness model or competition is. You're simply grasping for something more that just isn't there.
Everyone is human. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone has suffered pain and loss in their lives. YOU are the ones lacking in acceptance, compassion and the ability to move on or better yet, TURN THE CHANNEL!


Dacia, Dacia, Dacia...I'm not sure is you are Jackie or if Jackie is just channeling through you but how hard would it be for someone to say,"I am sorry. I let my feelings for Brian cloud my judgement and allowed things to be said that I shouldn't have. My bad. Please forgive me."
V1Man
My thanks to those who earlier to corrected my mistaken belief that Jillian still retained an ownership position in Sky Sport. There went my attempt at a moderating position between the polarity apparent here.

Truereality, Please, you are trying to hard. One need not intend to sue or even contemplate there being a cause of action to consult an attorney. It is generally a sound idea to consult a professional when you are out of your depth. I'd encourage others to do so, too. I'm not a proponent of show cancellation because of the many good people involved in it. After reading what you have had to say today, I'll confess to thinking that cancelling you would not be all that objectionable a prospect. I have not reacted to anyone so strongly since the OJ trial or Richard Nixon's Presidency. Congent arguements and not needless invective give one credibility. Certainly, right or wrong, what you are writing is being read as something Jackie supports. Remaining advertisers can not be getting a warm fuzzy feeling and certainly their PR people are reading these threads.

Brian, a question for you, if I may. In episode one you were seen training Sarah Kozer (she says you were tough). I know she was a last minute replacement. Did she replace Johanna Krupa? And a comment... You and Diego Currier should be working together. He is training Perez Hilton -- I expect that is a challenge. Your styles seem complimentary. Whatever happens to Work Out, I hope you have your own successful entity soon. I hope some who post here have a pleasant weekend. I'll be in the editing bay until Monday, unfortunately.
Lorizh
QUOTE (Dacia @ May 16, 2008 - 09:28 PM) *
OH! Thank you!

So I guess that means that the people here who think that TMZ is a credible source (sad sad sad for you, Jamie and Rich haven't spoken to anyone) and the people here who think they have ANY idea about what really happened, and the people who think that they "know" Brian Peeler is a good guy, are idiots?

Yep. Me too.



Yup....I'm smelling fear...you're scared and you know it. If you didn't have so much to lose you wouldn't be so invested in what we have to say. Yes I do think Peeler's a good guy, however, I believe it's you who's an idiot. Hide behind your keyboard go ahead, at least he has the balls to put his name to his posts and the class to address yours in a non-negative manner. You're a waste of space.
hazelmom
Hi Peeler,

I've enjoyed watching you since the first season. You rock! Lisa said that the two of you are good now. Is that true?

Can you comment on that?

sheila
GracieFrop
I like Peelers tat. That must have been some horrible pain!

I got a lizard tattooed on my shoulder and it hurt like hell!
PEELER
QUOTE (LiaminLB @ May 16, 2008 - 08:52 PM) *
Be careful posters- I hear there is a man out there with a mohawk and..... tattoos!
Sounds very scary! We should all hate him for this........
Ummmm (hopefully the sarcasm is duly noted).

I live in LA, you can't turn around without bumping into someone with a mohawk and/or tattoos. Oh my Gosh! Maybe I've bumped into Jamie's Beau!

Ok Dacia is taking up to much energy people lets just let this go already. This can go on for ever with her. You cant get water from a rock.
JCpalmsprings
Bitter, bitter, bitter...

Yeah I guess tats define someone's character...

LOL

And you are the Voice of Moral Standards....



QUOTE (Dacia @ May 16, 2008 - 08:46 PM) *
Yeah, I'm spiteful and hateful. Uh-huh and I guess your on-going attacks are sweet and sticky? Great. I guess you also know everything that went on outside of your glimpse into the SkySport world? I guess you know Doug? I guess you'll be calling his pals to ask them why they didn't defend Brian? They thought Brian was pushy and out of line as well with the event but I guess you already know that or maybe one of them told you differently? Okay. Well, have fun with your imaginary cause.

By the way, Jamie Eason is a nice girl but she is by no means known to every person or trainer out there. Fitness modeling and competition isn't exactly held in a very high esteem with many trainers and athletes. It's like a pumped up version of a beauty pagent complete with fake tans, a scary ass hyper routine and a great deal of politics. Most trainers at SkySport wouldn't be caught dead near one of those events. Many bodybuilders are horrified by Fitness Competitions as well. So get over yourselves and your moral high horses. 99.9% of you didn't know who Jamie Eason was, that she didn't have a maesectomy, that her boyfriend is covered in tats and has a mohawk and you didn't have a clue what a fitness model or competition is. You're simply grasping for something more that just isn't there.
Everyone is human. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone has suffered pain and loss in their lives. YOU are the ones lacking in acceptance, compassion and the ability to move on or better yet, TURN THE CHANNEL!
iluvspongebob
Fitness model or not, Jamie Eason is beautiful to look at & has a very fit body. I've watched many of these competitions (as well as body building ones) & they all have fake tans. Kind of hypocritical to demean another sport don't you think. Clearly Jamie has worked hard at her career and has had success. Why try to take her down by comparing it to bodybuilding etc? They are both different sports. Looks like Jamie Eason is just better at it.
JCpalmsprings
I have roses on my arm! I got them when my grandmother passed... I always brought her Roses, they made a sick elderly woman happy...


QUOTE (GracieFrop @ May 16, 2008 - 08:55 PM) *
I like Peelers tat. That must have been some horrible pain!

I got a lizard tattooed on my shoulder and it hurt like hell!
PEELER
QUOTE (hazelmom @ May 16, 2008 - 08:54 PM) *
Hi Peeler,

I've enjoyed watching you since the first season. You rock! Lisa said that the two of you are good now. Is that true?

Can you comment on that?

sheila

Yes I am good with her she really does have a good heart she knew that she messed up and she went and said she was in the wrong and sorry. She asked for forgiveness for Jackie and Rich said no he wanted to her it from her and she said no way. Lisa was only chiming in on what was said someone else was doing all the talking.
WONDER WOMAN
QUOTE (pwb02 @ May 16, 2008 - 03:44 PM) *
May 16th, 2008 at 8:53 am karen says:

Who deserves happiness more than Ellen…..NOBODY…what that poor girl went through when she came out on her show…All of my gay brothers and sisters, were in pain for her….I remember gathering with about 10 or so people(most of whom have since died of aids related illness) at a friends house in San Francisco, to watch the episode of Ellen's character coming out..Such a dangerous .and courageous thing to do. Soooooo not safe at that time. Ellen knew that it was not a safe thing for her to do.

She did it for ALL of us, and we loved her for it…… and she was crucified for it………
If it were not for ELLEN, Jackie Warner would not have had the opportunity to have the show " workout…".a show about the life of an out, lesbian could not have happened in those days. Gay sand lesbians could only long for , and dream about it. Jackie Warner is Standing on the backs of all those who took to the streets in the 70's in protest of Anita Bryant……it was a HUGE risk , and a very big deal.
We did it so that some day accepted visIbility could happen for gay people..we did it for
gay rights and freedom…..
I am broken hearted that Jackie Warner did not take the gift that she was given, and be a positive , ethical role model for the gay community……I am a 61 year old lesbian….I remember how it was to be ou t and on the front lines for gay rights………Shame on you Jackie.
THANK YOU ELLEN…..WE LOVE YOU BE HAPPY!!!!!!!



This post speaks volumns.
JCpalmsprings
Oh by the way, where is ohiofarmgirl????
JCpalmsprings
She would be wetting herself if she knew PEELER was here....

QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 09:00 PM) *
Oh by the way, where is ohiofarmgirl????
clarakotka
QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 16, 2008 - 02:39 PM) *
Hi all.
After 48 hours of trying to get approved and on this board, here I am. I fought hard to get here. Then I had to search for an active board. Bravo not encouraging open discussion?
I was so disgusted with what happened with Jamie Eason(and thus Peeler). I believe Jackie Warner said those comments. I see no reason for her assistant, and for Eason's boyfriend to lie. I am also amazed at the weird editing in that episode. We have what is going on before, and after but not during. Where is that footage? Bravo is hiding it for later? Jackie ordered it erased? Perhaps Bravo just doesn't know what to do with it yet. What is with ignoring someone's doctor's orders, and taking up for late, rude trainers, who are not doing their jobs, because the large girl is emotional? I would be emotional if my 200 plus dollar an hour trainer was constantly late, and not available for my personal questions.
Yes, I signed that petion. If she is a lesbian icon, she is a negative one.
In that gym, Ms. Warner comes first, making money for her comes second, using her staff for her sexual amusement comes third, and truly helping people might get a side note.


The same thing happened to me when I tried to register! Oy vey! ph34r.gif


QUOTE (Dacia @ May 16, 2008 - 04:57 PM) *
Of course he has signed it. Multiple times no doubt! He's basically unemployed, has no friends so this is the only thing going for him. Why don't online tardo petitions work? Because all you need is a new proxy and you can sign it a billion times. Your petition is also coming from a tiny group of disgruntled people who have shown everyone here at this forum just what they're made of! Yes! YOU and this forum and turned the issue into a joke! Congratulations and thank you!



Ummm, "tardo"? You are full of various slurs, aren't you?

Take the advice I left for Jackie: Wipe your mouth, honey, there's a little b*llsh*t left in the corners.
over it
Rich and Jamie are nicer than you could ever imagine
GracieFrop
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 09:58 PM) *
I have roses on my arm! I got them when my grandmother passed... I always brought her Roses, they made a sick elderly woman happy...



That was sweet of you!

I have a frog tattooed on each ankle too! they didnt hurt anywhere as bad as my back tat did LOL
JCpalmsprings
She be a fan since day one yep (farmgirl talk)


QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 09:01 PM) *
She would be wetting herself if she knew PEELER was here....
Qwacker
My first post was the other day and I mainly posted because I was appalled by the whole sexual problem Jackie seems to have but as a counselor I have been very intrigued by the level of peoples fury over the Brian Peeler firing. Can someone tell me why the deep level of anger? Is it for Jamie and the comments or is it because Brian was fired in such an unprofessional way or is it because Jackie lied? Why this level of anger? Anyone...
PEELER
QUOTE (missd88 @ May 16, 2008 - 08:56 PM) *
Fitness model or not, Jamie Eason is beautiful to look at & has a very fit body. I've watched many of these competitions (as well as body building ones) & they all have fake tans. Kind of hypocritical to demean another sport don't you think. Clearly Jamie has worked hard at her career and has had success. Why try to take her down by comparing it to bodybuilding etc? They are both different sports. Looks like Jamie Eason is just better at it.

You are right she is very beautiful and has a heart of gold. She has been through a lot and stood out in the big world of fitness. She is a roll model to many woman across this earth. If I have a daughter one day I would love her to follow in her foot steps! Her boy friend rich is an amazing guy he is funny as hell to. Yes we are not all the closest of friend but we all stay in touch with each other. That is what friends are all about we may not be there all the time but we are there and do the right thing when you need us.
clarakotka
Does anyone else hear a southern accent in their heads while they read Peeler's posts?

*le sigh*

wub.gif
JCpalmsprings
Wow does everyone else feel like they need high blood pressure meds after all of that...

I had to go outside...
JCpalmsprings
It was like some fly on meth.. didn't hurt just annoying...

QUOTE (GracieFrop @ May 16, 2008 - 09:02 PM) *
That was sweet of you!

I have a frog tattooed on each ankle too! they didnt hurt anywhere as bad as my back tat did LOL
fg
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 10:10 PM) *
It was like some fly on meth.. didn't hurt just annoying...



I just had a cocktail tongue.gif
JCpalmsprings
I need one now, but PEELER says, "You will have to work twice as hard at the GYM". After all of that I don't have the energy....

QUOTE (fgnelson @ May 16, 2008 - 09:12 PM) *
I just had a cocktail tongue.gif
fg
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 16, 2008 - 10:15 PM) *
I need one now, but PEELER says, "You will have to work twice as hard at the GYM". After all of that I don't have the energy....

Early day tomorrow...sure did miss farmgirl...good night all. rolleyes.gif
JCpalmsprings
And they are both HOT as hell...

Okay sometimes I am Shallow...

QUOTE (pwb02 @ May 16, 2008 - 09:01 PM) *
Rich and Jamie are nicer than you could ever imagine
Lorizh
QUOTE (Dacia @ May 16, 2008 - 09:46 PM) *
Yeah, I'm spiteful and hateful. Uh-huh and I guess your on-going attacks are sweet and sticky? Great. I guess you also know everything that went on outside of your glimpse into the SkySport world? I guess you know Doug? I guess you'll be calling his pals to ask them why they didn't defend Brian? They thought Brian was pushy and out of line as well with the event but I guess you already know that or maybe one of them told you differently? Okay. Well, have fun with your imaginary cause.

By the way, Jamie Eason is a nice girl but she is by no means known to every person or trainer out there. Fitness modeling and competition isn't exactly held in a very high esteem with many trainers and athletes. It's like a pumped up version of a beauty pagent complete with fake tans, a scary ass hyper routine and a great deal of politics. Most trainers at SkySport wouldn't be caught dead near one of those events. Many bodybuilders are horrified by Fitness Competitions as well. So get over yourselves and your moral high horses. 99.9% of you didn't know who Jamie Eason was, that she didn't have a maesectomy, that her boyfriend is covered in tats and has a mohawk and you didn't have a clue what a fitness model or competition is. You're simply grasping for something more that just isn't there.
Everyone is human. Everyone makes mistakes. Everyone has suffered pain and loss in their lives. YOU are the ones lacking in acceptance, compassion and the ability to move on or better yet, TURN THE CHANNEL!


Look I've never claimed to know anyone personally but you've alluded to it then denied it so make up your mind. How the hell do you know what went on that night because as far as we know it was just Peeler, Eason, Rich, Warner and Lisa along with a camera operator and crew members, so I highly doubt any of the crew would know Peeler the way you seem to say you know him and Doug's friends...so it's the process of elimination either that or you know as much as we do. I highly doubt Peeler would put himself out there like this if it wasn't the truth and I believe him because Jackie's answer to all this was "so a few bad jokes were made" and then she FIRED Peeler and if that's not guilt then I don't know what is.

You keep saying "not one of Doug's friends have come to Peeler's defense" well I haven't seen ONE of anyone's friends who have come to Jackie's defense, but I have seen Greg Plit and Renessa come to Peeler's. Where are all Doug's friends, why aren't they coming to Jackie's defense? Can you answer that? See how silly you sound? You are asking questions about Peeler but there are masses who believe that he was right to ask for an apology and masses who believe that Jamie deserved one from Jackie. Why do you also keep trying to demean Jamie's breast cancer btw? You're a sick sick person to do that and yet you still hide behind a keyboard. So what if we didn't know her beforehand, Jackie should have and I would bet she did, but her hatred for Peeler (which according to her Pet Jesse was due to him not getting over the death of his best friend Doug fast enough...just sick if you ask me) got in her way. Extremely unprofessional. Another thing, if you have a problem with the sponsors pulling out, give them a call yourself they made the decision not us, we just told them we weren't going to buy their products again, it's our rights as American's to do so.

I stand by the fact that you are the nastiest of them all here by far, you claim to be an insider but you're nothing but a coward...put your name up or shut up.
Dacia
QUOTE (LiaminLB @ May 16, 2008 - 06:52 PM) *
Be careful posters- I hear there is a man out there with a mohawk and..... tattoos!
Sounds very scary! We should all hate him for this........


Ummmm (hopefully the sarcasm is duly noted).

I live in LA, you can't turn around without bumping into someone with a mohawk and/or tattoos. Oh my Gosh! Maybe I've bumped into Jamie's Beau!



Nice try. I actually think the guy is quite attractive. Give it a rest. It was the point that you have these ideas about people but really you don't know.

Have I defended Jackie's actions? No I haven't. I just think this whole thing has turned into a lynch mob. People have their shortcomings. We all do. I would be careful if I was Brian for the simple reason that if you're going to go public about what a bad person someone is and just keep pounding away, you better watch it because people will discect every comment and every action you've ever made.

Should Jackie have apologized? Probably. I think I would have apologized to Jamie and Rich but if Peeler would have continued to follow me around and hammer away, I would have fired him too. Brian was cast on the show. Do I think Jackie could have worked around a difficult person like Peeler in a more professional manner? Yes. Neither party was correct in that relationship but here's the deal. It's Jackie's gym. If Brian thinks that he was unfairly terminated, then he should file a wrongful termination lawsuit. California has very liberal laws concerning such issues. Both Brian and Jackie have boundary issues. They are expressed in different ways but they exist.
Have any of you disliked someone so much that when you make a mistake in front of them, it becomes almost impossible to speak about it? It's something most of us should outgrow but for some, it remains. It's deep inside and no matter what, they're not going to admit wrong doing to someone who has badgered them, spoken ill of them to others and showed disrespect.
If this incident is the absolute worst thing that happens in these people's lives, then God Bless them because in the grand scheme of things, it ain't that big a deal. When you can't let go of something, it will begin to rot and cause other problems in your life. Sometimes, you won't get an apology. I never got one from the drunk driver who killed my sister. It sucked but I had to accept that I must find a way to forgive and move on. Have I done that? Still working on it. It's not easy to forgive without an apology but it is possible. I think the important thing is that you, Brian, need to let it go. You're not going to change Jackie. You can try to destroy her career and have the show taken off the air, you can destroy the opportunities for everyone involved if you want but where will that get you? Is that what will make you feel better? Will that make all of you feel better to see Jackie, the cast and all the crew lose their jobs? I'm actually worried about what you will do if she does make a public apology. How will you spend your time? Where will your passion go? Sometimes we don't know what to do when our enemy makes ammends. Sometimes that's not really want people want. They get so caught up in the game of hating and pontificating that an act of kindness and openess from the other person is totally confounding.

I just can't wrap my brain around most of this. The energy spent on this when there are so many sad issues that need addressing everyday is just shocking to me. That's where my anger came from. Unite for something that really matters. The list is long.

I'm sorry for becoming angry. I'm sorry for offending. I hope you will see that it doesn't get any of us anywhere and apply to the larger picture of life in a positive way.
JCpalmsprings
Yeah me 2 brings a little tear... have a good night....
QUOTE (fgnelson @ May 16, 2008 - 09:18 PM) *
Early day tomorrow...sure did miss farmgirl...good night all. rolleyes.gif
fg
QUOTE (fgnelson @ May 16, 2008 - 10:18 PM) *
Early day tomorrow...sure did miss farmgirl...good night all. rolleyes.gif



I'm on the East Coast.....
mikepence
QUOTE (GracieFrop @ May 16, 2008 - 04:41 PM) *
Peeler is a typical Southern guy with a Southern temper. Just cause they say something when they are mad, doesn't mean they are gonna do it.


LOL! That is painting with a pretty broad brush, honey!

Peeler, great to see you here, love you and Jamie Eason. I think you should be the bigger man than Jackie and apologize profusely on your blog on Bravo for threatening her with violence, though, if you have not already.

I was happy to be able to bring Jamie's words from bodybuilding.com to light in this forum. It is time for Work Out's last reps! I signed that petition too, to show my support.

I also contacted Salon.com's awesome TV writer. I hope she picks up on this.
hazelmom
QUOTE (DrB @ May 16, 2008 - 09:03 PM) *
My first post was the other day and I mainly posted because I was appalled by the whole sexual problem Jackie seems to have but as a counselor I have been very intrigued by the level of peoples fury over the Brian Peeler firing. Can someone tell me why the deep level of anger? Is it for Jamie and the comments or is it because Brian was fired in such an unprofessional way or is it because Jackie lied? Why this level of anger? Anyone...


I can only speak for myself. i am a Social Worker with 22 years of experience, and 6 years experience teaching at the college level.

My anger is about Jackie promoting Sky Sport as a safe, healthy place. Yet this is a woman who has no issue with commenting on people's physical condition. I have no outrage about the breast cancer. I'm sure that Jackie didn't know that. I am about 60 lbs. overweight. I want to connect to a gym, but I feel very self conscious about my size. The gym needs to be a safe place. It needs to be a place where I can feel confident that I am not being discussed. Clearly, these are my dysmorphic issues. However, I have watched this show since it began, and I have never been comfortable with how she treats clients. She is disappointed with someone's progress and how it impacts SkyLab so she rushes them, pushes them. It's their journey, but this is not well recognized in the episodes I have seen.

I also was totally shocked with her relationship with Rebecca, and was further disturbed this season when she can't understand why Rebecca is weird with her. She's patronizing, arrogant, and has no self awareness. Every week, women write to her about how they look up to her, and they have no idea how little she sees outside her own world.

That's my answer and I am sticking to it. I am also curious as to your intent. Are you interested in critical media or are you curious as an individual?

Sheila
Qwacker
Peeler...are you a Duke fan or a North Carolina fan?
JCpalmsprings
PEELER

How are you able to speak so freely on here???

So far you are the only one that is speaking out...
WONDER WOMAN
QUOTE (Dacia @ May 16, 2008 - 10:18 PM) *
Nice try. I actually think the guy is quite attractive. Give it a rest. It was the point that you have these ideas about people but really you don't know.

Have I defended Jackie's actions? No I haven't. I just think this whole thing has turned into a lynch mob. People have their shortcomings. We all do. I would be careful if I was Brian for the simple reason that if you're going to go public about what a bad person someone is and just keep pounding away, you better watch it because people will discect every comment and every action you've ever made.

Should Jackie have apologized? Probably. I think I would have apologized to Jamie and Rich but if Peeler would have continued to follow me around and hammer away, I would have fired him too. Brian was cast on the show. Do I think Jackie could have worked around a difficult person like Peeler in a more professional manner? Yes. Neither party was correct in that relationship but here's the deal. It's Jackie's gym. If Brian thinks that he was unfairly terminated, then he should file a wrongful termination lawsuit. California has very liberal laws concerning such issues. Both Brian and Jackie have boundary issues. They are expressed in different ways but they exist.
Have any of you disliked someone so much that when you make a mistake in front of them, it becomes almost impossible to speak about it? It's something most of us should outgrow but for some, it remains. It's deep inside and no matter what, they're not going to admit wrong doing to someone who has badgered them, spoken ill of them to others and showed disrespect.
If this incident is the absolute worst thing that happens in these people's lives, then God Bless them because in the grand scheme of things, it ain't that big a deal. When you can't let go of something, it will begin to rot and cause other problems in your life. Sometimes, you won't get an apology. I never got one from the drunk driver who killed my sister. It sucked but I had to accept that I must find a way to forgive and move on. Have I done that? Still working on it. It's not easy to forgive without an apology but it is possible. I think the important thing is that you, Brian, need to let it go. You're not going to change Jackie. You can try to destroy her career and have the show taken off the air, you can destroy the opportunities for everyone involved if you want but where will that get you? Is that what will make you feel better? Will that make all of you feel better to see Jackie, the cast and all the crew lose their jobs? I'm actually worried about what you will do if she does make a public apology. How will you spend your time? Where will your passion go? Sometimes we don't know what to do when our enemy makes ammends. Sometimes that's not really want people want. They get so caught up in the game of hating and pontificating that an act of kindness and openess from the other person is totally confounding.

I just can't wrap my brain around most of this. The energy spent on this when there are so many sad issues that need addressing everyday is just shocking to me. That's where my anger came from. Unite for something that really matters. The list is long.

I'm sorry for becoming angry. I'm sorry for offending. I hope you will see that it doesn't get any of us anywhere and apply to the larger picture of life in a positive way.


Gee honey, didn't you get my post??? You totally have our support of you not coming here any more. no presure. good bye, and good luck
Lorizh
QUOTE (mikepence @ May 16, 2008 - 10:24 PM) *
LOL! That is painting with a pretty broad brush, honey!

Peeler, great to see you here, love you and Jamie Eason. I think you should be the bigger man than Jackie and apologize profusely on your blog on Bravo for threatening her with violence, though, if you have not already.

I was happy to be able to bring Jamie's words from bodybuilding.com to light in this forum. It is time for Work Out's last reps! I signed that petition too, to show my support.

I also contacted Salon.com's awesome TV writer. I hope she picks up on this.


Go back a few pages he did apologize, however, he NEVER threatened Jackie with violence to her face so there is a HUGE difference. He was pissed off when he said it and he said he was sorry and he would NEVER hit a woman he even said it on national tv. So I think Peeler is good. Jackie on the otherhand still refuses to acknowledge what she said and refuses to apologize. She just sends her little pets here to insult us and try to make us feel bad for the grips that are no longer going to be working on the show. rolleyes.gif Like Jackie would ever care about them.
GracieFrop
QUOTE (hazelmom @ May 16, 2008 - 10:28 PM) *
I also was totally shocked with her relationship with Rebecca, and was further disturbed this season when she can't understand why Rebecca is weird with her. She's patronizing, arrogant, and has no self awareness. Every week, women write to her about how they look up to her, and they have no idea how little she sees outside her own world.


To be fair though, Boss/Employee relationships happen EVERYWHERE!
And usually guilty parties are married too! Thats one thing you gotta say about the Jackie/Rebecca situation. At least they werent married!
JCpalmsprings
WW. Play Nice... Don't want to stoop....
QUOTE (WONDER WOMAN @ May 16, 2008 - 09:31 PM) *
Gee honey, didn't you get my post??? You totally have our support of you not coming here any more. no presure. good bye, and good luck
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