Nice try. I actually think the guy is quite attractive. Give it a rest. It was the point that you have these ideas about people but really you don't know.

Have I defended Jackie's actions? No I haven't. I just think this whole thing has turned into a lynch mob. People have their shortcomings. We all do. I would be careful if I was Brian for the simple reason that if you're going to go public about what a bad person someone is and just keep pounding away, you better watch it because people will discect every comment and every action you've ever made.

Should Jackie have apologized? Probably. I think I would have apologized to Jamie and Rich but if Peeler would have continued to follow me around and hammer away, I would have fired him too. Brian was cast on the show. Do I think Jackie could have worked around a difficult person like Peeler in a more professional manner? Yes. Neither party was correct in that relationship but here's the deal. It's Jackie's gym. If Brian thinks that he was unfairly terminated, then he should file a wrongful termination lawsuit. California has very liberal laws concerning such issues. Both Brian and Jackie have boundary issues. They are expressed in different ways but they exist.
Have any of you disliked someone so much that when you make a mistake in front of them, it becomes almost impossible to speak about it? It's something most of us should outgrow but for some, it remains. It's deep inside and no matter what, they're not going to admit wrong doing to someone who has badgered them, spoken ill of them to others and showed disrespect.
If this incident is the absolute worst thing that happens in these people's lives, then God Bless them because in the grand scheme of things, it ain't that big a deal. When you can't let go of something, it will begin to rot and cause other problems in your life. Sometimes, you won't get an apology. I never got one from the drunk driver who killed my sister. It sucked but I had to accept that I must find a way to forgive and move on. Have I done that? Still working on it. It's not easy to forgive without an apology but it is possible. I think the important thing is that you, Brian, need to let it go. You're not going to change Jackie. You can try to destroy her career and have the show taken off the air, you can destroy the opportunities for everyone involved if you want but where will that get you? Is that what will make you feel better? Will that make all of you feel better to see Jackie, the cast and all the crew lose their jobs? I'm actually worried about what you will do if she does make a public apology. How will you spend your time? Where will your passion go? Sometimes we don't know what to do when our enemy makes ammends. Sometimes that's not really want people want. They get so caught up in the game of hating and pontificating that an act of kindness and openess from the other person is totally confounding.

I just can't wrap my brain around most of this. The energy spent on this when there are so many sad issues that need addressing everyday is just shocking to me. That's where my anger came from. Unite for something that really matters. The list is long.

I'm sorry for becoming angry. I'm sorry for offending. I hope you will see that it doesn't get any of us anywhere and apply to the larger picture of life in a positive way.

PEELER

How are you able to speak so freely on here???

So far you are the only one that is speaking out...

You are right I dont want the show to be canceled. I just won't her to say she is sorry. For the record I have a large construction company and my fitness company. I also just finished the pilot for my show. So don't worry about me I have some very powerful and big names behind me that believe in me. I never ever said I was a perfect person and have never done wrong I have done lots of bad and wrong thing It is the person who can realize that they have done these things and ask for forgiveness that will be respected. I make mistakes every single day of my life. I am dork I trip I fall I am flawed like you wouldn't believe. But you know what that makes me human and that is what I try to show to you guys that I am no different than you. So don't hate me when you don't really know me because if you really did you would understand what I am try to do in life.

Oh he's not the only one from the show speaking out here, he's just the only one with balls to say it lol

I can only speak for myself. i am a Social Worker with 22 years of experience, and 6 years experience teaching at the college level.

My anger is about Jackie promoting Sky Sport as a safe, healthy place. Yet this is a woman who has no issue with commenting on people's physical condition. I have no outrage about the breast cancer. I'm sure that Jackie didn't know that. I am about 60 lbs. overweight. I want to connect to a gym, but I feel very self conscious about my size. The gym needs to be a safe place. It needs to be a place where I can feel confident that I am not being discussed. Clearly, these are my dysmorphic issues. However, I have watched this show since it began, and I have never been comfortable with how she treats clients. She is disappointed with someone's progress and how it impacts SkyLab so she rushes them, pushes them. It's their journey, but this is not well recognized in the episodes I have seen.

I also was totally shocked with her relationship with Rebecca, and was further disturbed this season when she can't understand why Rebecca is weird with her. She's patronizing, arrogant, and has no self awareness. Every week, women write to her about how they look up to her, and they have no idea how little she sees outside her own world.

That's my answer and I am sticking to it. I am also curious as to your intent. Are you interested in critical media or are you curious as an individual?

Sheila

You are right I dont want the show to be canceled. I just won't her to say she is sorry. For the record I have a large construction company and my fitness company. I also just finished the pilot for my show. So don't worry about me I have some very powerful and big names behind me that believe in me. I never ever said I was a perfect person and have never done wrong I have done lots of bad and wrong thing It is the person who can realize that they have done these things and ask for forgiveness that will be respected. I make mistakes every single day of my life. I am dork I trip I fall I am flawed like you wouldn't believe. But you know what that makes me human and that is what I try to show to you guys that I am no different than you. So don't hate me when you don't really know me because if you really did you would understand what I am try to do in life.

No just curious for myself. I tend to be VERY analytical and have been amazed by the firestorm this particular misstep that Jackie took has raised so much ire when her exploitation of the women in her employment seems to be overlooked or thought to be funny. I think it was Rebecca who said, "I guess it should be part of the Skysport application that you have to kiss Jackie." That just flies all over me, one as a lesbian and two as a boss and three as a counselor who deals with the shattered lives of people who have been trampled, used and discarded by the likes of Jackie Warner.

I don't think Jackie knew Jamie had cancer and hopefully she feels as bad as Lisa about the incident. But if her therapist hasn't addressed her sexual predatory tendencies, then Jackie needs a refund.

To be fair though, Boss/Employee relationships happen EVERYWHERE!
And usually guilty parties are married too! Thats one thing you gotta say about the Jackie/Rebecca situation. At least they werent married!

So GracieFrop, are you saying it is ok for employee/boss relationships to happen if they are both single?

You are right I dont want the show to be canceled. I just won't her to say she is sorry. For the record I have a large construction company and my fitness company. I also just finished the pilot for my show. So don't worry about me I have some very powerful and big names behind me that believe in me. I never ever said I was a perfect person and have never done wrong I have done lots of bad and wrong thing It is the person who can realize that they have done these things and ask for forgiveness that will be respected. I make mistakes every single day of my life. I am dork I trip I fall I am flawed like you wouldn't believe. But you know what that makes me human and that is what I try to show to you guys that I am no different than you. So don't hate me when you don't really know me because if you really did you would understand what I am try to do in life.

She has slept with her employees. Jackie dated Rebecca, a grown adult. They knew what the obstacles were beforehand. She has supported an employee of hers who was constantly late to train one of her clients, who did not call back her client, unlike the other trainers who went went the extra mile to support their assigned clients. Jackie does tend to give her trainers a long leash that's why it took two years to fire Brian Peeler. She called her client emotional, dismissing any of her comments. Deenie is a downer. Jackie was only stating the obvious. She ignored her client's doctor's orders(not suggestions, orders), and being a licenced professional, she is professionally responsible for advicing Deenie to do exercises that could cause her a life long disability. Deenie shows up to train and then complains when she does train.
Women may have more pain receptors, but women are built to handle pain better then men (childbirth) so that kills your argument about never hitting a woman. Then should men hit women in the birth canal? LOL It's just not fair for a man to hit a woman in most cases.

Don't you know True, that we're all just Jackie under cover! We can't possibly have our own opinions and think that these hateful people have taken this too far! I know.

I'm sorry but the issue isn't about Jackie's sexuality but I do have an issue with Brian's overall Homophobia and anyone who defends that idiot is most likely a total bigot. The initial reaction to this whole situation was not due to Jackie's sexuality, I agree. The effort to ruin Jackie's career is.

We are ashamed and appalled at how Jackie has used her sexuality to exploit and use other women (gay or straight) for her own egotistical need for power and domination. Please! These are grown adults you are talking about. They can think for themselves. Most of the women ask her out not the other way around. Jackie needs a lot of space emotionally and she expects the same in return. I think that is why she has had trouble finding lasting love.

Again, truereality, do not speak for any other gay or lesbian. I can speak for myself and do so very well. I do not speak for gay people.

My first post was the other day and I mainly posted because I was appalled by the whole sexual problem Jackie seems to have but as a counselor I have been very intrigued by the level of peoples fury over the Brian Peeler firing. Can someone tell me why the deep level of anger? Is it for Jamie and the comments or is it because Brian was fired in such an unprofessional way or is it because Jackie lied? Why this level of anger? Anyone...

No just curious for myself. I tend to be VERY analytical and have been amazed by the firestorm this particular misstep that Jackie took has raised so much ire when her exploitation of the women in her employment seems to be overlooked or thought to be funny. I think it was Rebecca who said, "I guess it should be part of the Skysport application that you have to kiss Jackie." That just flies all over me, one as a lesbian and two as a boss and three as a counselor who deals with the shattered lives of people who have been trampled, used and discarded by the likes of Jackie Warner.

I don't think Jackie knew Jamie had cancer and hopefully she feels as bad as Lisa about the incident. But if her therapist hasn't addressed her sexual predatory tendencies, then Jackie needs a refund.

I've said before (Sorry brian, don't read this!) that there were a hundred times she could have fired him & I wouldn't have batted an eye. He steped over the line A LOT(so did she with him) But fireing him for standing up for his client was WRONG! She came across as just trying to make him be quite so she didn't look bad...oops missed that boat.

JC, we haven't heard from phantomraven today. Hope they got their power turned back on.

Agree with True. No need to continue judging Jackie for her relationships. They are all adults and if an employee has an issue with her, they can easily file suit.
There are predators out there right now harming women, children and men as well. Focus on them. Turn your anger and hate toward something that counts.

Do you guys really think that obesity is a disability and that obese people are discriminated against? You seem to have some idea that everyone hates fat people and that Jackie has some secret agenda. Deenie could have spoken up at any time about her Doctors' orders at anytime but she's fat so she must have been stifled by the fit people mafia? Is that it? Discrimination. You really think Peeler has always been a warm and fuzzy guy who is open to all kinds, shape, color and gender? Sorry to rain on your parade of delusion but the guy is an uneducated shallow tool. Do you not find it interesting that no one beyond the saps who visit his MySpace page and the people here defend him? Don't you find that odd? No one affiliated with the show, no one affiliated with Doug have had Brian's back and have been willing to step forward for him? Think about it. Maybe some sense will seep in.

I think the important thing is that you, Brian, need to let it go. You're not going to change Jackie. You can try to destroy her career and have the show taken off the air, you can destroy the opportunities for everyone involved if you want but where will that get you? Is that what will make you feel better? Will that make all of you feel better to see Jackie, the cast and all the crew lose their jobs? I'm actually worried about what you will do if she does make a public apology. How will you spend your time? Where will your passion go? Sometimes we don't know what to do when our enemy makes ammends. Sometimes that's not really want people want. They get so caught up in the game of hating and pontificating that an act of kindness and openess from the other person is totally confounding.

I just can't wrap my brain around most of this. The energy spent on this when there are so many sad issues that need addressing everyday is just shocking to me. That's where my anger came from. Unite for something that really matters. The list is long.

I'm sorry for becoming angry. I'm sorry for offending. I hope you will see that it doesn't get any of us anywhere and apply to the larger picture of life in a positive way.

So I'm still fairly new to this stuff. What's with the squeegily line under the names sometimes? &why would someone be "anonymous"?Aren't we all fairly anonymus, we can make up whatever name we want.

squig means they are typing a post.
anon is a registered viewer who is signed in and doesn't want us to know that they are signed in. You could also log off and view as a guest without showing as anon

If you would of come on here talking in that tone(for lack of a better word) people might have listened to you more, but you came on attacking people personally & calling names. Now I figure that's where your coming from & I don't even want to listen to you.

Brian Peeler makes threats and then claims innocence. He came on here today threatening to expose Jackie and wanted forum members help so he could have a national platform to do it (a reunion show). Later on he said he only wants Jackie to apologize to Jaime Eason. Give me a break! This is his M.O. for gaining public sympathy and stoking hatred for Jackie.

Of course he has signed it. Multiple times no doubt! He's basically unemployed, has no friends so this is the only thing going for him. Why don't online tardo petitions work? Because all you need is a new proxy and you can sign it a billion times. Your petition is also coming from a tiny group of disgruntled people who have shown everyone here at this forum just what they're made of! Yes! YOU and this forum and turned the issue into a joke! Congratulations and thank you!

I can't seem to remember Peeler saying in any interview or any where else he wanted to change Jackie, destroy her career, or destroy the opportunities for everyone involved.

Yes, our posts have shown everyone here at this forum just what we are made of, so have yours - and all are welcome to go back an re-read them at their leisure and make thier own judgments on what that is.

Wow to read Truereality and Dacia's post I feel like I'm watching Work Out. Are you sure you 2 aren't from the show?

I just wanted to point out to you 2 that Brian has nothing to do with my boy-cot of Work Out. I was personally disgusted watching how Jackie was acting. The Jamie thing was just the the straw that broke the camel's back. Do I think Brian was fired unfairly, Yes I do. To be honest though that is Jackie's right as a employer. Although after acting as disgustingly as she had she owed Brian and the viewers a explanation. Sorry the one sided confessional didn't cut it. Why didn't Bravo show us what what said? Why was Brian cut off? Whats Jackie hiding?

I was so upset that I felt the need to contact Bravo and explain my displeasure. What I found was I'm not alone. More and more people started posting about their outrage for the show. This movement is a direct representation of how Work Out viewers feel about the show in its purest form.

Please everyone don't get distracted by all this drama. Remember what you have seen and felt for your selves. We all watched the same show , we know what has gone on. Feels like plants are just trying to get us into the show again. Join me in Boycotting Work Out, even better remove Bravo from your cable box using parental controls till they make things right.

Brian Peeler makes threats and then claims innocence. He came on here today threatening to expose Jackie and wanted forum members help so he could have a national platform to do it (a reunion show). Later on he said he only wants Jackie to apologize to Jaime Eason. Give me a break! This is his M.O. for gaining public sympathy and stoking hatred for Jackie.

JC did you see that. It went fro 7 guest and 1 anon to 8 guest and 0 anon. I taught them a better way to spy. lol

Agenda, national platform my arse......

My first post was the other day and I mainly posted because I was appalled by the whole sexual problem Jackie seems to have but as a counselor I have been very intrigued by the level of peoples fury over the Brian Peeler firing. Can someone tell me why the deep level of anger? Is it for Jamie and the comments or is it because Brian was fired in such an unprofessional way or is it because Jackie lied? Why this level of anger? Anyone...

I can't seem to remember Peeler saying in any interview or any where else he wanted to change Jackie, destroy her career, or destroy the opportunities for everyone involved. I have heard him say, over and over again that that he only wanted her to apologize. He did not ask for Olivia Cruises, SoyJoy, Propel, Maybeline, and others to pull their support from Workout. The people who watch the show, who were disgusted with Jackie's behavior complained. The advertisers decided they did not want to be associated for various reasons with what Jackie Warner represents. Not unless you believe all these people are the message board are Peeler, and all the signatures on the petion are also Peeler. Peeler's interview made it clear that he had moved on, and working on other things. As for the fans some of them are actually trying to stand up for what they believe is right. Now you might think this a waste of their time but please don't belittle them because you don't think it is worthy. I work at the local food bank. I work with the diabetes association. I have a business. Somehow I believe that people who are concerned with this, are a lot like me. They have other things, but they will take a bit of time to stand up for what they believe is right.

OK Guru pwb02, since I now know that no one is talking, how do I get my screen to just show me new messages without hitting refresh? Also how can I put those cute smily faces in my post?

OK Guru pwb02, since I now know that no one is talking, how do I get my screen to just show me new messages without hitting refresh? Also how can I put those cute smily faces in my post?

My first post was the other day and I mainly posted because I was appalled by the whole sexual problem Jackie seems to have but as a counselor I have been very intrigued by the level of peoples fury over the Brian Peeler firing. Can someone tell me why the deep level of anger? Is it for Jamie and the comments or is it because Brian was fired in such an unprofessional way or is it because Jackie lied? Why this level of anger? Anyone...