Hello

I haven't viewed al the boards yet but I did find an interesting tid bit. It's been on the board and I checked it out myself. Jamie Eason had a breast lump removed in 1998 that proved to be cancerous. She had a lumpectomy. I have had a lumpectomy and you can barely see the scar. My breasts still look the same as did Jamie's. Although sometimes a lumpectomy does cause enough damage to warrant some reconstruction. But, this was not the case with Jamie.

Jamie got the implants years later because she wanted to make more money modeling. Not because she needed reconstructive surgery. She talks about her procedure in a promo for her doctor. Here is the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSHIGNKznR0

Her is an article about her cancer and lumpectomy.

http://fatfightertv.com/blog/2008/03/24/fi...to-get-healthy/

So her boyfriend played the cancer card when he knew damn well her implants had nothing to do with the cancer. My mother has reoccurring ovarian cancer and in no way would she ever mislead anyone about her disease or the results of it. The comments were still wrong but the boyfriend chose to bring up Jamie's cancer to make them feel worse. I find this deplorable. I also find it deplorable that Peeler and Jamie who know the truth did not set the record straight on this one.

Jackie should still apologize but at the same time Jamie and her boyfriend should tell the truth as well.

You can post this if you like.

LAgirl15

I don't know how to get the page to update on its own but the smiley faces are in the toolbar above where you write your post. Fifth from the left.

I heard that the therapist was awful & just let people yell at one another. I went to a group after my mom died & you were never allowed to talk "AT" someone you had to say how you felt about something. I'm not saying that clearly, but you couldn't attack another person..

Will have to check out the website... If they don't show it again...

What could she really say???

Let's see... ...WOW Thanks! Now there is no stopping me. I will be a blogger (I don't think that's right?) guru too!

Now, Now, JC, remember we are supposed to hate them because um... oh, yeah, they have tatoos and, um... mohawks?

Really, how silly is that!

I posted a comment from her to one of her myspace friends to this comment. It is late, but will try to find it for you. give me a minute. Alot of pages to go thru 'sigh'

I'm not sure, I didn't watch, but she needed to be in control of the situation & it didn't sound like she was..."Deer in headlights".

I am sorry that was due to why she (JW) hasn't updated her Blog since the Episode

LAgirl15 here it was on page 39 whoo:This is a comment she gave to a person on myspace:

Hi D*****! You caught me online. I just had a lumpectomy. They were just atypical squameous cells at first. Then a few years later when I started exercising and got lean, it created a divot in my chest and doctors became suspicious again. I was considering an implant in the one side because of the large dimple and when I went in for the surgery, they found a new mass. It was never "graded" because they cut out most of my breast tissue at that point and added the implant. The did the same to the left side. I don't like having the implants but it's better than being lop-sided. I get asked often about chest exercises. I was advised not to do them. Is that what you recommend too?

XOX,
jamie

I work in television and yes they are all hired. The trainers and the clients. The skylab participants get to participate for free per their performance agreement. Yes, Deenie has been on other shows. So, has the African American woman, her name escapes me at the moment. She was on Deserving Design.

All Reality Shows are cast. The producers come in and they cast the show and they have the final word on who gets hired.

For those of you who think that Jackie has any say in how the show is edited think again. The producers have all the control. Jackie and the rest of the cast probably do not see the show until it is edited.

A producer would be crazy to give talent control over final cut. The show would never get done. I am sure Jackie could voice her opinion on something but it all depends if the producer is even listening.

As a therapist myself who runs grief groups, sports injury groups and sexual abuse recovery groups...there is a ton she could have done. Stopped the group, stated the rules of the group or kicked the two guys out for a break so they could fiqure out a better way to express their anger. I for the most part agree with what they were saying to Deenie. She is a groups nightmare but she still needs to be treated with respect and that does not included yelling or for that matter, being cussed at. That level of a group was way too deep for people who don't know each other and who will not be seeing each other much in the future.

You still don't get it. The reason that Jackie's relationships with

employees is an issue is because she is allowing those former

sexual relationships affect what she does and how she treats

those same employees, and then rags on the former relationship

still employee as being the one at fault. Jackie has no awareness

of what she does and how it affects other people. Jackie does not

accept responsibility for her actions. Jackie rarely if ever faults herself.

If a person cannot see and accept their own human failings that same

person has no balance. This is what it appears is going on with Jackie

Warner. I liked Jackie so much and it took a lot for me to realize she

wasn't the person I thought she was in the first and second season.

Kari Ana

Good Night All and God Bless

Yea, what Kari said.

I'm hitting the hay too, Night all (I just can't stop the faces now!)

Do you think Jackie will ever appologize for what she said and for lying about it? Somewhere inside of me, I can't help but hope she will and then maybe this hell she has found herself in will subside somewhat.

You are not a downer. You are a Survivor.

I am so sorry you were treated in such a disgraceful manner. It is a reflection of them, not you. You fought and won. Congratulations on being clear of disease and doing what you have to do! I am happy you're alive!

This was my response to why she hasn't updated her blog since that episode... What can she really say...

Well. if that is true then why does she say differently on her doctor's website. She recorded a promo for him and all she talks about is how she is getting the implants for modeling purposes. Watch the video. She speaks about how she
can get better and more modeling jobs. She never mentions cancer or tissue removal.

Ultimately, I have better things to worry about. But, go to the video and tell me what you think.

Just remember that you can not use more than 10 smileys in a single post (part of that count must be the smileys that are in the quote you are responding to). Just a little known piece of trivia... !

. Deenie is an actress . Just last week or so she was sited on an mtv show. Peeler was hired through central casting, to play the role of a trainer. Greg Plitt is everywhere. JD was spotted in a bar in
LA...they thought he was cute, in good shape, and Voila

Ditto on That!!!!!!!

I have also had a lumpectomy, at age 19, that thank the Lord wasn't cancerous. It left that breast smaller than the other. Not enough to buy implants, which I've been advised against due to the possible recurrance of tumors. My scar is rather large but the placement helps camoflauge it. I'm an actor but have yet to do any nude scenes *blush* .

I hope you are doing well and staying healthy!

As for Jamie, I believe she had more than one incident but I could be wrong.

good night............ i missed farmgirl too

So let me get this straight your labeling Jamie and her boyfriend as the bad guys even though they are really the victims in all this. Someone makes a post refuting your nonsense argument and you cant take it into consideration even though all your arguments aren't based on facts but innuendo and your experience as a TV person, lol. I read your old posts and they read like the X-files no facts just innuendo all leading to the innocence of Jackie Warner, give me a break. For the life of me I cant under stand why you included clarakotka heartfelt post about her experience with cancer in your attack on Jamie. Since you have better things to worry about please do us a favor and go away. I hold you in regard the same as Ms Warner, worse then crap stuck to the bottom of my shoe.

My mother died of breast cancer and suffered with body image issues after she had her breast removed. Anyone who could even think of victimizing a cancer sufferer is crap in my book.

The video doesn't lie. Jaime Eason in this video clearly states she had breast implants because her breasts were too small. Nowhere does she say the breast augmentation was done because of breast cancer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSHIGNKznR0

I am not believing a message that claims to be Jaime Eason after some person posted a fake message at bodybuilding.com.

Am I writing to the same person with different usernames? Yesterday I said the overblown reaction was due to Jackie being a lesbian. Then everyone on here claimed to be gay or had a gay friend (typical). Just now someone questions the ethics of Jaime Eason's boyfriend of using the cancer card to falsely explain why she got breast implants. All of sudden everyone claims to have had cancer. Very strange.

I do to. I hope she will find herself and make this all right.

Kari Ana

I am really tired, but will comment on this last topic. You are right this was a promo for this plastic surgeon who specializes in breast augmentation. I know many of his clients and even one of his receptionist. I am in Houston where his practice is. I think it was a promo and therefore trying to show the positive. I have seen the video and many others done for his practice. They all paint a pretty picture of breast augmentation and never reveal any of the risks. Take it for what you will and I can't change people I can only give you some info.

How many times have we stated that the client having Cancer just

made it worse. It doesn't matter why the Client has implants. The

thing is, when someone goes to a gym to work out it doesn't matter

who it is or whether they have implants or not. What matters is

that the owner and office manager of a Gym was making fun of a

client. When the trainer tried to talk to the owner of the gym the

owner fired him without even letting him ask for the apology.

The replies so many of you Pro Jackie people don't seem to even

realize that the behavior is unacceptable because it is rude. Why

would anyone pay to go to a Gym just to be made fun of? How can

this behavior be okay with anyone? To make matters worse you

come to this forum and make this problem worse by trashing us and

making unfounded accusations against us. Maybe if you as well as

Jackie had a grasp on what it is to accept responsibility for your actions

all of this would go away because then Jackie might actually do the

right thing. Interesting concept because most likely it will never happen.

Kari Ana

Kari Ana

I never claimed to have cancer myself. I've lost many family members to it. I have had a tumor removed that thankfully was not cancerous.

I don't suffer fools gladly, truereality. Cancer is a serious disease. You'd do well not to be so flippant about it.

So what who is responsible for the editing??? I don't believe the

producers told Jackie what to say or how to behave. This incident

is on her. Jackie Warner chose to behave in the manner she behaved.

I have to wonder if perhaps the producer had this edited with the best

outcome which just might be a clear show of how bad that incident

might have been.

Kari Ana

PWB,
Thanks for taking the time to share the information. It is all one can do. People will think or believe what they want to, but if the information is out there at least there is the possibility of an informed decision being made!
Sleep Well!

Why wouldn't the doctor have a women that had her breast(s) removed to show that life can return to normal with breast augmentation? That would also show his expertise and kindness. I don't believe your explanation. Doctors try to show as many different types of patients as they can in advertising to get even more patients.

Normally in that type of situation what the therapist says is TIME OUT

EVERYBODY. People hear and shut up for a few moments.

Kari Ana

I came back to mention one more thing and saw your post. It kind of goes together. His receptionist has really bad rippling after her augmentation. I am positive when a new client comes in she doesn't say look this could happen to you. My ex had breast augmentation and she had to ask alot of her own questions and do her own research on it. They do have to disclaim the possibilities of thing that could happen, but have you ever heard how fast they go thru all of it. I think it is more of a don't ask, don't tell situation. I agree it would have been a better show of his skill, but they have a different view than us. Thanks for the discussion

I'm totally stunned to see people call this outrage over the Jamie Eason incident a "mob mentality". Has it not occurred that as human beings we are each individually totally upset and disgusted by all this? Others have also tried to somehow link this outrage to Jackie's sexual orientation, while at the same time posters have said over and over and over again it has nothing to do with that, it has to do with how we as individuals treat others.

A lot of people have body issues and go to the gym to try and help themselves improve their personal body image. There is no greater fear than to think trainers are making fun of you behind your back. This incident only confirmed that basic, primal fear.

The sad thing is that with such a long lapse of time, anything Bravo and/or Jackie does will fall on deaf ears and come across as desperate. Any caring person would of apologized profusely immediately after something like the Jamie incident occurred. I can't imagine anyone so cold that wouldn't of.

There is no defending what Jackie did or how she handled the situation during it and after. To think that people wouldn't react with outright anger over someone being so degraded publicly is beyond ignorant. The majority of people are good human beings with feelings. Since no one at Bravo or Jackie has exhibited any class in taking responsibility for what has happened, or shown any compassion over what has happened, will not only fuel the viewers' anger, but will be the downfall of them and the show. I've turned Work Out off and refuse to watch it again.

Too, too funny! As someone who cringed so badly that a body-cramp developed when the Cruise Blackjack scene unfolded, your one-liner revived my funny-bone.

Just wanted to thank you Fallzone for your contributions to this discussion. Your comments have been thought provoking. And afterall, isn't that critical to an honest discussion? Again, thanks!

Thanks for your post! Its so nice to read someone express, in their own feelings, what we have been feeling too. That is how this all got started, a group of good, normal human beings feeling the same outrage, not any of the rediculous (sp?) accusations that have been made about us!

Maybe it is the eternal optimist in me, but I still think there is time for Jackie and Bravo to do the right thing. Yes, the more time that goes by, the harder it is and the more people will question the integrity of it (that is why it needs to be done sooner rather than later!). But I still feel that acknowledging it and taking responsibility for it could redeem things, especially for Jackie. That is my hope anyway.

Discussion and debate keep the synapses firing, but I generally fall back when too many vitriolic tangents change the shape of the argument. I've just taken close to an hour to read from page 65 and was interested to see the change in tone from the day I first posted. I think a reunion show would be too much fire and brimstone and not very satisfying because of the time lag. If this were real time and events fresh it could be productive.

I was thinking how much I would enjoy watching a panel of Bravo producers honestly discuss how they make editing decisions, promote story-lines and generally move a story forward. I cannot believe those involved in Season 3 of Work Out have never tossed a big old rock into a pond.

I'm not in favor of a reunion...too little, too late. I believe BravoTV and Jackie Warner have missed the opportunity to redeem themselves by making a timely and honest response to their viewers. I do not feel that Ms. Warner (ooops! hope that wasn't a hate crime) deserves any more positive attention.

I, too, need a break from things when too much anger and hate starts getting thrown around. I also carefully consider which posts I will respond to and how (need to check myself and take the time to edit MY emotions as much as possible). Sometimes I realize that nothing I say will make a difference, so I keep silent. The silly, joking around has been a nice way to get to know the other posters and take a break from the intensity of the debate and talk about something else for a time (and laughter is always good medicine!).

Your idea about an option to a reunion show is an awesome one - I wish it could happen! Oh, the questions we could ask! (and your analogy about tossing a big ole rock into a pond...I picture a bunch of guys in business suits standing on the edge of a pond dripping wet and sputtering with surprised looks on thier faces! )

I also am conflicted about watching a reunion show... I don't really want to rehash all of this and watch Bravo try to do a coverup job about it. Since they have not even acknowledged it so far, I have little hope that they would actually honestly and openly discuss the issue or that any resolution would occur.

Also, I wonder if BravoTv has taken notice of the fact that so many people who have been just your run of the mill, loyal viewers, who have never posted comments or blogs...suddenly felt compelled to voice their disgust at the behavior demonstrated by Ms. Warner this season? Take a peek at how many people joined just after this incident. None of us know each other, the only thing we have in common is our desire to voice our concern regarding this situation. The fact that we come from all walks of life, gay, straight, male, female, married, single only speaks to the universal disgust of the incident.

Wow, great post - summarizes it up so nicely!

You know, I think they are taking notice, in a way. They shut down two threads on us (early on), but have not shut this one down even though they know we are posting on it. I think they are listening (and learning a lot by our responses to the posters who have come to disagree with (I'm being polite about what they have been doing!) us. These posters have misjudged who and what we are and our responses have revealed that (and so much more about who we really are). Bravo is listening but I think they don't really know what to do with us. (although we keep telling them to just acknowledge the situation and address it - not really complicated at all!).

Me too, Kari. I truly do.

Those guys in business suits probably stand far enough back from the splash they have created, but they haven't given a thought to those ripples that will shortly ruin their Maglis.

I think Bravo has taken some notice, at least. They have not put the "X" to this topic. Let's hope they take notice of the direction we're trying to give.

Maglis... ! thats the second chuckle you have given me this morning, Fallzone (the first, being the big ole rock in the pond!), thanks, I needed it!!

And I love how you get right to the point! I get a bit verbose...you wouldn't believe the editing I do when composing my posts (not all editing is bad!!!! )!

Hope you all have a happy Saturday. I will be popping in and out. Today is my son's 15th birthday party. Yikes...a bunch of teenagers in my pool...ughh...so hot in South Florida...not even noon yet and already 90 degrees....maybe I should take my laptop outside and just post from the pool...anyway...have a great day!