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Snagglepuss

May 20, 2008 - 04:53 PM

QUOTE (NiCi @ May 20, 2008 - 04:45 PM)

Hey, you trying to play that gay card again?! How many times do you have to be told...

Well I was going to play the "gay-wrongfully terminated employee-father died of cancer-pissed off at Jackie's behavior-Work Out-viewer" card but all that couldn't possibly have happened to one person. So... Must be Jackie's sexuality, yeah that's really why I'm upset.

NiCi

May 20, 2008 - 04:55 PM

QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 20, 2008 - 05:53 PM)

Well I was going to play the "gay-wrongfully terminated employee-father died of cancer-pissed off at Jackie's behavior-Work Out-viewer" card but all that couldn't possibly have happened to one person. So... Must be Jackie's sexuality, yeah that's really why I'm upset.

OK then, thats better!

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 04:58 PM

I lost my Card, how do I get a replacement????

Do I go to the DMV and say, "I'm a f*G and I lost my Gay fn card".

QUOTE (NiCi @ May 20, 2008 - 04:45 PM)

Hey, you trying to play that gay card again?! How many times do you have to be told...

BooglieOoglie

May 20, 2008 - 05:01 PM

QUOTE (NiCi @ May 20, 2008 - 05:50 PM)

Yeah, whats up with that?! If he does not want to chat, I'd rather he just lurk as a "guest" instead!

Whatever!

He has a lot of reading to catch up since he was last here. A friend might have showed up at his house. His rice boiled over??????

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 05:07 PM

Doesn't Rice have allot of Carbs???

QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 20, 2008 - 05:01 PM)

He has a lot of reading to catch up since he was last here. A friend might have showed up at his house. His rice boiled over??????

BooglieOoglie

May 20, 2008 - 05:11 PM

QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 20, 2008 - 06:07 PM)

Doesn't Rice have allot of Carbs???

Wild rice?

Snagglepuss

May 20, 2008 - 05:14 PM

QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 20, 2008 - 04:58 PM)

I lost my Card, how do I get a replacement????

Do I go to the DMV and say, "I'm a [expletive deleted] and I lost my Gay fn card".

No need to wait in line at the DMV! Just go to Sky Sport & Spa and ask for one of the following people- Dacia, Truereality, Jack123 or Nama
They will have you walk through a big Gaydar machine- kinda like a metal detector at the airport and you can get a temporary replacement. They have one for cancer detection too. I just feel bad for the straight women- they get sent to the "Queen of the hive"- for a physical inspection!

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 05:25 PM

Is it really Wild??? Kind of like this show is it really real???

QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 20, 2008 - 05:11 PM)

Wild rice?

NiCi

May 20, 2008 - 05:28 PM

QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 20, 2008 - 06:14 PM)

No need to wait in line at the DMV! Just go to Sky Sport & Spa and ask for one of the following people- Dacia, Truereality, Jack123 or Nama
They will have you walk through a big Gaydar machine- kinda like a metal detector at the airport and you can get a temporary replacement. They have one for cancer detection too. I just feel bad for the straight women- they get sent to the "Queen of the hive"- for a physical inspection!

If the Gaydar machine beeps, do they then use wands?

!!!!!

swiss74

May 20, 2008 - 05:28 PM

I am sure you all remember the ads for the Awards Show with Kathy Griffith.

Some one mentioned that Project Runway wants to leave Bravo and move to another network.

So I am deducing that is the reason Heidi Klum (spelling) is not a part of that ad and that is the reason Ms. Jackie Warner is there.

Nama

May 20, 2008 - 05:32 PM

QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 20, 2008 - 02:42 PM)

I guess PEELER didn't want to chat with us????

Hey Guys- Look, I tried to read through some of the responses from a couple of days ago and I'm not sure if I saw everything but I'll say this, I didn't mean to offend you with my ladies statement. It's just something I say and that comes from my mother. So I apologize if you think I was trying to be a jerk. I wasn't. I also agree that the post I put up was long but I thought it had some valid points about Reality Television in general.
Look, you guys have your opinions of Jackie and that's cool. She's not perfect. If you have some sort of issue with what went down, then fine but don't for one second think that Peeler is some sort of victim. I can't get specific with you but I don't even think I need to. Peeler dropped out of high school in the 10th Grade. What I'm saying is that he's not the most informed of individuals. He is a compulsive liar and he uses people. Where I'm from, that kind of person is not called a survivor, he's called a thug or criminal. If Peeler was black, he would not be getting the kind of praise and defense he's getting, at least not from white folks. Attack me all you want on that but I've lived it. I don't want to make this a race thing but I don't know too many successful black 10th grade dropouts in the area of training or athletics. I also see a lot of ripping on Jackie's education. All I can say to that is check yourself and maybe Brian Peeler.

I'm just going to give you my last thoughts and then you won't have to deal with me again. Consider your source when defending Peeler. It's mostly been him. As I said, I can't get specific but I don't think I need to. He's said enough on camera and in print to support all of his lies and if you don't believe what I say and offer you, go find 'Kate.' She'll have plenty to say. As for Greg P., he barely knows Brian. Peeler wants to attach his wagon to Greg's star so he's been the perfect pup around him.

Brian is a master manipulator or maybe you guys just think that means righteous survivor? Either way, if you ask him something 3 times, he'll contradict himself 6 times.

The Charlotte Observer gives the basics:

Peeler grew up in Granite Quarry, just outside Salisbury, and dropped out of East Rowan High in 10th grade. An athlete and certified trainer, he tried working in construction, as a flight attendant and as a model, without much success.

So he sold his stuff and left for California in his beat-up Isuzu, with just enough gas money to get there. He spent his last $20 on a photo to help him get cast as a movie or TV extra, he said.

The casting calls led to few roles. But Peeler made friends, and one told him to capitalize on his trainer experience instead of pining for his dream role. Peeler got a job at a gym and was recruiting customers when he heard about tryouts for the Bravo show.

Peeler said he crashed the audition for kicks. He nailed the gig by being himself. Now he’s on TV, doing what he loves and hoping for his next big break.

“I came out here with nothing, and now my life is so great,” said Peeler, soon to be married.

This interview shows Peeler in his element. Take this and match it up to the recent one you guys posted. He also must have forgotten what he told The Charlotte Observer. I think we learn a great deal in the 11th and 12th Grades? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we should stop at Middle School?

Hello Work Out fans. Today I have the hottie..err, I mean the amazing trainer Brian Peeler of Bravos Work Out on the phone.

Brian Peeler: Hello.
Us: Hello Peeler.

Us: First off, congratulations on your recent nuptials.
BP: Thank you.

Us: So, do you read the Bravo boards?
BP: I have read the message boards. There are a lot of haters there. People are like he’s a douche, [expletive deleted], they are mean. Once, someone made a bad comment about Doug. I got so mad. I responded. They didn't post my reply though. I waited the 24 hours it takes to get it approved but it didn't make it I guess.
Us: People are brave at their keyboards.
BP: Right. If they got a problem with me, they know where I'm at. I'm at 35 Wilshire from 8am until 9pm.

Us: Are you portrayed accurately on the show?
BP: Yeah, I think so. You don't get to see the nicer side of me.

Us: We got to see more of you this season. Do you think it was because of your friendship with Doug?
BP: Laura Alverez is the producer and let the audience see the real me. She wasn't like our producer from season 1. She liked to stir up drama and made me a meathead. I'm really easy going.

Us: Are you close with any of the other trainers?
BP: I was close with Doug. He was like family. We hung out. He was my girl-gurl. I am close with Andre, Jesse too I guess.
Us: Do you get fans coming up to you, recognizing you?
BP: Yeah, all the time. People do think they know me when they see me and that’s ok. I'm very personable and friendly. If it wasn't for the fans, I wouldn't be anybody, know what I mean? I'm very approachable. I also used to be a ladies man. I met my wife about a month before the show but before that, there were 3-4 women a week in my bed. There were no complaints though. They knew what they were getting into. I wasn't looking for a relationship.
Us: You both were consenting adults doing what you wanted to do, right?
BP: Right.

Us: What do you do other then training?
BP: I race cars and motorcycles professionally. I also do stunt driving. I fly planes and helicopters. I used to be a flight attendant for US airways.

Us: Wait a minute, a flight attendant?
BP: Yeah, they had a program where you didn't need a 4 year degree to get your flying time in. I also modeled in Miami. I decided Hollywood was where I needed to be. I have been here about 3 1/2 years now.
Us: You're very funny. We saw Zen try her hand at stand up. Have you ever thought of giving it a try?
BP: I am a comedian. I will have you pissing your pants. I should charge people for a work out when I get them laughing. That’s $135 an hour. But I'm not comfortable trying to be funny..I'm very competitive. I drive the fastest cars, fastest motorcycles. I can't be put on the spot and be funny. It doesn't work that way for me. Stand up comedy or theatre is not my thing.

Us: Is there anything about the show you would like to see changed?
BP: Less drama.
Us: Lesbian drama?
BP: Lol, Less drama.

Us: Speaking of lesbian drama, how real was the Rebecca/Jackie fling?
BP: It was real. Rebecca was like how can I get more face time and it was F^ck Jackie. So she did.
Us: So Jesse was right when he said that about Rebecca on the show?
BP: Yes.

Us: When will you be shooting season 3?
BP: We start shooting in Oct. But I'm not sure who will be there. I'm going to have to go Omorosa to stay and get more face time.

Us: Why wouldn't you be on the show?
BP: Jackie had trainer tryouts and she hired two trainers, Agostino and Chris (we couldn't find any information on the new guys) and we are not sure what they are going to focus on. We think the seasons focus will be on SkyLab.

Us: How did you hear about the show? Did you already work for Jackie?
BP: No, I was a trainer somewhere else. I had tried out for a documentary then six months later I get a call saying I had got the show for Bravo. I was like Bravo? What’s Bravo? I had never heard of it or watched it. So I was like Ok, Bravo, a predominately gay network, that’s fine. I'm no homophobe. Lol, Doug and I went to gay clubs, and Doug would be like " We are like gods, lol" It was amazing. You remember the house, where we had Doug’s birthday party at? That was Doug’s place. He lived with the creator of Desperate Housewives. It doesn't pay nothing though, being on Work Out.

Us: You don't get paid for being on the show?
BP: We get paid but it isn't much. For season 1, we got $350 per episode. For season 2, we got $500 per episode.
Us: That’s it!?!
BP: That’s it. That’s why reality shows are so popular. They are cheap to make. I'm a SAG actor and with the minimum pay per week, we should be getting $3000-6000 per week with the hours we put in. The shows budget was $1.96 million. That’s nothing.

Us: Wow, that’s terrible. Does the exposure help you get clients?
BP: Not really. I’ve not had a lot of extra people to train since the show. I charge $135 an hour. Jackie charges $400 per hour. People want Jackie. It’s a 70-30 split with Jackie and I pay a $15 gym fee. People want to see, not work out. I get more people from Myspace wanting to work out then I get from people who watched the show. I am a teacher and I care about my clients. If you don't plan on taking care of your body where do you plan on living for the rest of your life? I want to teach them to take care of themselves.

Us: I think I would ask for a pay raise.
BP: I am. If they don't want to then I'm going to try for my own show. Right now I'm locked in, no training anywhere else. Something I want to try to do is workout videos on the web. It will be $10 a month for six videos and four new ones added a month.

Us: That’s a great idea for people like me who can't get to you or your gym.
BP: Right. It would be basic stuff you can do at home.

Us: Tell me about Jesse.
BP: Jesse is Jackie’s puppet, Rebecca too. Jesse puts on a show, its who he is.

Us: Was Mimi as bad as she seemed on TV?
BP: There is a reason people are the way they are with Jackie. Mimi painted a picture of Kate and I kissing. I have that picture. She was all right. Jackie was edited to look better. Jackie has a lot of issues I think. She’s kind hearted but I think issues with her dad and other stuff have affected her. I’ve tried to get to know Jackie but she doesn't return calls. Jackie and I are competitive too. Jackie was like I can take any girl away from her. No, you can't.

Us: Do you watch any TV?
BP: Yeah, I like Prison Break, Greys Anatomy, House, Entourage. I was watching Real Housewives of Orange County before we got our show. I watch Kathy Griffin but I can only take her for a little bit.

Us: Do you have anything you would like to say to your fans?
BP: I'm gay.
Us: Well, your wife will be upset to hear this.

BP: Just kidding. No, I want to thank them and let them know to feel free to approach me. I was getting ice cream for my wife a few days ago and I could hear this girl going "is that the guy...?" and her friends were like go ask him but she wouldn't. Go ahead and ask me, I don't mind. I'm not psycho. I will not turn on you.

Us: Some people wouldn't want to be approached, that their "private life" was being imposed upon.
BP: My Private life is in private, at home. When I am in public, it’s not my private life. Also, don't forget to check out my website, http://www.brianpeeler.com/.

Us: Thanks for calling Peeler. Feel free to contact us if you ever have the anything you'd like to promote or to tell your fans.
BP: OK, will do. Maybe tell Bravo we need more then eight episodes.

US: Well, we started a petition at our Top Chef blog to get Ted Allen on TC full-time and it worked. Maybe we could do the same for you?
BP: Hell yeah, do a petition. Do a petition to get me my own show, lol.

Us: We will get that petition started Peeler, good luck

http://bravissimoblog2.blogspot.com/2007/0...ian-peeler.html

Here's one of my favorite comments from that blog which sums up everything that is Brian Peeler:

hottdog said:
I have a question.
he says that he didn't know what Bravo was, never had heard of it. Then,
how is that possible that he watched the real housewifes of orange county? A show by Bravo?!?

Hey, this is just the tip of the iceberg. I got it on the Jackie thing. You made me understand. I still don't agree with the boycott and I'll never agree with anything even remotely positive said about Brian Peeler. Sorry guys. I'm not here to offend but I did want to get my point across. There are always two sides to a story and in this case, a lot more to the story. Remember that when you watch tonight's show.

Peace - And I mean that Nici. I hope I got that right.

Snagglepuss

May 20, 2008 - 05:34 PM

QUOTE (swiss74 @ May 20, 2008 - 05:28 PM)

I am sure you all remember the ads for the Awards Show with Kathy Griffith.

Some one mentioned that Project Runway wants to leave Bravo and move to another network.

So I am deducing that is the reason Heidi Klum (spelling) is not a part of that ad and that is the reason Ms. Jackie Warner is there.

I'm sure that's why Heidi wasn't there. I thought Jackie was there because she would go to an opening of the proverbial envelope.

She takes the term "Media [expletive deleted]" to a whole new low.

Snagglepuss

May 20, 2008 - 05:39 PM

Wow, how long has that been saved up for......?

My trainer wants me to consume many small easily digestible meals per day.
I can't swallow such a big load of bologna in one sitting. Sorry!

Nama

May 20, 2008 - 05:46 PM

QUOTE (Nama @ May 20, 2008 - 03:32 PM)

Hey Guys- Look, I tried to read through some of the responses from a couple of days ago and I'm not sure if I saw everything but I'll say this, I didn't mean to offend you with my ladies statement. It's just something I say and that comes from my mother. So I apologize if you think I was trying to be a jerk. I wasn't. I also agree that the post I put up was long but I thought it had some valid points about Reality Television in general.
Look, you guys have your opinions of Jackie and that's cool. She's not perfect. If you have some sort of issue with what went down, then fine but don't for one second think that Peeler is some sort of victim. I can't get specific with you but I don't even think I need to. Peeler dropped out of high school in the 10th Grade. What I'm saying is that he's not the most informed of individuals. He is a compulsive liar and he uses people. Where I'm from, that kind of person is not called a survivor, he's called a thug or criminal. If Peeler was black, he would not be getting the kind of praise and defense he's getting, at least not from white folks. Attack me all you want on that but I've lived it. I don't want to make this a race thing but I don't know too many successful black 10th grade dropouts in the area of training or athletics. I also see a lot of ripping on Jackie's education. All I can say to that is check yourself and maybe Brian Peeler.

I'm just going to give you my last thoughts and then you won't have to deal with me again. Consider your source when defending Peeler. It's mostly been him. As I said, I can't get specific but I don't think I need to. He's said enough on camera and in print to support all of his lies and if you don't believe what I say and offer you, go find 'Kate.' She'll have plenty to say. As for Greg P., he barely knows Brian. Peeler wants to attach his wagon to Greg's star so he's been the perfect pup around him.

Brian is a master manipulator or maybe you guys just think that means righteous survivor? Either way, if you ask him something 3 times, he'll contradict himself 6 times.

The Charlotte Observer gives the basics:

Peeler grew up in Granite Quarry, just outside Salisbury, and dropped out of East Rowan High in 10th grade. An athlete and certified trainer, he tried working in construction, as a flight attendant and as a model, without much success.

So he sold his stuff and left for California in his beat-up Isuzu, with just enough gas money to get there. He spent his last $20 on a photo to help him get cast as a movie or TV extra, he said.

The casting calls led to few roles. But Peeler made friends, and one told him to capitalize on his trainer experience instead of pining for his dream role. Peeler got a job at a gym and was recruiting customers when he heard about tryouts for the Bravo show.

Peeler said he crashed the audition for kicks. He nailed the gig by being himself. Now he's on TV, doing what he loves and hoping for his next big break.

"I came out here with nothing, and now my life is so great," said Peeler, soon to be married.

This interview shows Peeler in his element. Take this and match it up to the recent one you guys posted. He also must have forgotten what he told The Charlotte Observer. I think we learn a great deal in the 11th and 12th Grades? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we should stop at Middle School?

Hello Work Out fans. Today I have the hottie..err, I mean the amazing trainer Brian Peeler of Bravos Work Out on the phone.

Brian Peeler: Hello.
Us: Hello Peeler.

Us: First off, congratulations on your recent nuptials.
BP: Thank you.

Us: So, do you read the Bravo boards?
BP: I have read the message boards. There are a lot of haters there. People are like he's a douche, [expletive deleted], they are mean. Once, someone made a bad comment about Doug. I got so mad. I responded. They didn't post my reply though. I waited the 24 hours it takes to get it approved but it didn't make it I guess.
Us: People are brave at their keyboards.
BP: Right. If they got a problem with me, they know where I'm at. I'm at 35 Wilshire from 8am until 9pm.

Us: Are you portrayed accurately on the show?
BP: Yeah, I think so. You don't get to see the nicer side of me.

Us: We got to see more of you this season. Do you think it was because of your friendship with Doug?
BP: Laura Alverez is the producer and let the audience see the real me. She wasn't like our producer from season 1. She liked to stir up drama and made me a meathead. I'm really easy going.

Us: Are you close with any of the other trainers?
BP: I was close with Doug. He was like family. We hung out. He was my girl-gurl. I am close with Andre, Jesse too I guess.
Us: Do you get fans coming up to you, recognizing you?
BP: Yeah, all the time. People do think they know me when they see me and that's ok. I'm very personable and friendly. If it wasn't for the fans, I wouldn't be anybody, know what I mean? I'm very approachable. I also used to be a ladies man. I met my wife about a month before the show but before that, there were 3-4 women a week in my bed. There were no complaints though. They knew what they were getting into. I wasn't looking for a relationship.
Us: You both were consenting adults doing what you wanted to do, right?
BP: Right.

Us: What do you do other then training?
BP: I race cars and motorcycles professionally. I also do stunt driving. I fly planes and helicopters. I used to be a flight attendant for US airways.

Us: Wait a minute, a flight attendant?
BP: Yeah, they had a program where you didn't need a 4 year degree to get your flying time in. I also modeled in Miami. I decided Hollywood was where I needed to be. I have been here about 3 1/2 years now.
Us: You're very funny. We saw Zen try her hand at stand up. Have you ever thought of giving it a try?
BP: I am a comedian. I will have you pissing your pants. I should charge people for a work out when I get them laughing. That's $135 an hour. But I'm not comfortable trying to be funny..I'm very competitive. I drive the fastest cars, fastest motorcycles. I can't be put on the spot and be funny. It doesn't work that way for me. Stand up comedy or theatre is not my thing.

Us: Is there anything about the show you would like to see changed?
BP: Less drama.
Us: Lesbian drama?
BP: Lol, Less drama.

Us: Speaking of lesbian drama, how real was the Rebecca/Jackie fling?
BP: It was real. Rebecca was like how can I get more face time and it was F^ck Jackie. So she did.
Us: So Jesse was right when he said that about Rebecca on the show?
BP: Yes.

Us: When will you be shooting season 3?
BP: We start shooting in Oct. But I'm not sure who will be there. I'm going to have to go Omorosa to stay and get more face time.

Us: Why wouldn't you be on the show?
BP: Jackie had trainer tryouts and she hired two trainers, Agostino and Chris (we couldn't find any information on the new guys) and we are not sure what they are going to focus on. We think the seasons focus will be on SkyLab.

Us: How did you hear about the show? Did you already work for Jackie?
BP: No, I was a trainer somewhere else. I had tried out for a documentary then six months later I get a call saying I had got the show for Bravo. I was like Bravo? What's Bravo? I had never heard of it or watched it. So I was like Ok, Bravo, a predominately gay network, that's fine. I'm no homophobe. Lol, Doug and I went to gay clubs, and Doug would be like " We are like gods, lol" It was amazing. You remember the house, where we had Doug's birthday party at? That was Doug's place. He lived with the creator of Desperate Housewives. It doesn't pay nothing though, being on Work Out.

Us: You don't get paid for being on the show?
BP: We get paid but it isn't much. For season 1, we got $350 per episode. For season 2, we got $500 per episode.
Us: That's it!?!
BP: That's it. That's why reality shows are so popular. They are cheap to make. I'm a SAG actor and with the minimum pay per week, we should be getting $3000-6000 per week with the hours we put in. The shows budget was $1.96 million. That's nothing.

Us: Wow, that's terrible. Does the exposure help you get clients?
BP: Not really. I've not had a lot of extra people to train since the show. I charge $135 an hour. Jackie charges $400 per hour. People want Jackie. It's a 70-30 split with Jackie and I pay a $15 gym fee. People want to see, not work out. I get more people from Myspace wanting to work out then I get from people who watched the show. I am a teacher and I care about my clients. If you don't plan on taking care of your body where do you plan on living for the rest of your life? I want to teach them to take care of themselves.

Us: I think I would ask for a pay raise.
BP: I am. If they don't want to then I'm going to try for my own show. Right now I'm locked in, no training anywhere else. Something I want to try to do is workout videos on the web. It will be $10 a month for six videos and four new ones added a month.

Us: That's a great idea for people like me who can't get to you or your gym.
BP: Right. It would be basic stuff you can do at home.

Us: Tell me about Jesse.
BP: Jesse is Jackie's puppet, Rebecca too. Jesse puts on a show, its who he is.

Us: Was Mimi as bad as she seemed on TV?
BP: There is a reason people are the way they are with Jackie. Mimi painted a picture of Kate and I kissing. I have that picture. She was all right. Jackie was edited to look better. Jackie has a lot of issues I think. She's kind hearted but I think issues with her dad and other stuff have affected her. I've tried to get to know Jackie but she doesn't return calls. Jackie and I are competitive too. Jackie was like I can take any girl away from her. No, you can't.

Us: Do you watch any TV?
BP: Yeah, I like Prison Break, Greys Anatomy, House, Entourage. I was watching Real Housewives of Orange County before we got our show. I watch Kathy Griffin but I can only take her for a little bit.

Us: Do you have anything you would like to say to your fans?
BP: I'm gay.
Us: Well, your wife will be upset to hear this.

BP: Just kidding. No, I want to thank them and let them know to feel free to approach me. I was getting ice cream for my wife a few days ago and I could hear this girl going "is that the guy...?" and her friends were like go ask him but she wouldn't. Go ahead and ask me, I don't mind. I'm not psycho. I will not turn on you.

Us: Some people wouldn't want to be approached, that their "private life" was being imposed upon.
BP: My Private life is in private, at home. When I am in public, it's not my private life. Also, don't forget to check out my website, http://www.brianpeeler.com/.

Us: Thanks for calling Peeler. Feel free to contact us if you ever have the anything you'd like to promote or to tell your fans.
BP: OK, will do. Maybe tell Bravo we need more then eight episodes.

US: Well, we started a petition at our Top Chef blog to get Ted Allen on TC full-time and it worked. Maybe we could do the same for you?
BP: Hell yeah, do a petition. Do a petition to get me my own show, lol.

Us: We will get that petition started Peeler, good luck

http://bravissimoblog2.blogspot.com/2007/0...ian-peeler.html

Here's one of my favorite comments from that blog which sums up everything that is Brian Peeler:

hottdog said:
I have a question.
he says that he didn't know what Bravo was, never had heard of it. Then,
how is that possible that he watched the real housewifes of orange county? A show by Bravo?!?

Hey, this is just the tip of the iceberg. I got it on the Jackie thing. You made me understand. I still don't agree with the boycott and I'll never agree with anything even remotely positive said about Brian Peeler. Sorry guys. I'm not here to offend but I did want to get my point across. There are always two sides to a story and in this case, a lot more to the story. Remember that when you watch tonight's show.

Peace - And I mean that Nici. I hope I got that right.

I swear this is my last post but if it's not? Well hey, just call it a Peeler.

I just want to concede one thing here, Brian probably really didn't know what Bravo was. It is possible that he didn't watch Real Housewives until after Work Out. I can't even think of when Housewives premiered?

I think the other lies are obvious but regarding Mimi, you probably already know that she and Jackie are back together. Also, the online training bs Brian is talking about. That comes straight from Mimi. She was doing that about 4 years ago!
I don't understand why I got dumped into the Gaydar post? I read most of your posts. I hear where you're coming from. My main issue was that a boycott of the show effects a lot of people not just Jackie Warner and Peeler is not being straight with anyone.

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 05:46 PM

Go away Nama

I am not going to hate anyone... Who fn cares about his education...
Also trying to injectk race into this is a shame...

Once you started this hate/race banter you lost me and I am sure you lost everyone else on here...

Hate and Race= not going to read further....

Now have a cookie

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Snagglepuss

May 20, 2008 - 05:49 PM

BTW does anyone truly believe we are only here to defend Peeler?

I am here for the (too numerous to mention) reasons I have stated ad nauseam elsewhere on these boards.
Next time please try to address some of those questions instead of just attacking Peeler and our supposed love for the man.

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 05:50 PM

Nama

Get a new job and work for a better show... Maybe this time you will do something Positive with your talent...

Quality and Respect! Something Bravo's Workout has lost and something Ms. Warner has lost as well...

GracieFrop

May 20, 2008 - 05:51 PM

QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 20, 2008 - 05:35 PM)

Hey PEELER

Whats your advice on Sugar.
Refined is bad, I know.
Fruits and vegtables also have allot of sugar...

How many grams should a person eat???

no more then 40 g.

there is a bad storm coming with tornados in the area. if yall dont hear from me again, check your trees in the morning LOL

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 05:52 PM

No way read my previous post...

QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 20, 2008 - 05:49 PM)

BTW does anyone truly believe we are onlyhere to defend Peeler?

I am here for the (too numerous to mention) reasons I have stated ad nauseam elsewhere on these boards.
Next time please try to address some of those questions instead of just attacking Peeler and our supposed love for the man.

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 05:54 PM

Thank you for the Sugar tip...

That last part was not funny! We love you like Family... Hurry girl, "run and hide"

.....

QUOTE (GracieFrop @ May 20, 2008 - 05:51 PM)

no more then 40 g.

there is a bad storm coming with tornados in the area. if yall dont hear from me again, check your trees in the morning LOL

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 05:56 PM

Sorry I was MAD! I am also not going to edit the poor spelling...

QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 20, 2008 - 05:46 PM)

Go away Nama

I am not going to hate anyone... Who fn cares about his education...
Also trying to injectk race into this is a shame...

Once you started this hate/race banter you lost me and I am sure you lost everyone else on here...

Hate and Race= not going to read further....

Now have a cookie

Nama

May 20, 2008 - 05:59 PM

QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 20, 2008 - 03:46 PM)

Go away Nama

I am not going to hate anyone... Who fn cares about his education...
Also trying to injectk race into this is a shame...

Once you started this hate/race banter you lost me and I am sure you lost everyone else on here...

Hate and Race= not going to read further....

Now have a cookie

Hey I didn't say anything about hate. Yeah, I'm a black man. No I don't think this has anything to do with race. I did just want to point out the high school dropout thing. In my world, it's a big deal. I fight hard to keep kids in school and away from violence so yeah, education means something to me. I graduated from college so I could be an example. Now none of that matters except I hear a lot about Jackie being a poor example. That may be true and I think I just said that after reading your comments, I came to understand why many of you were upset with Jackie and the show.
As for Brian, I didn't post hate. I posted his own interviews and if you want to attack me on that, I don't know what to say. I'm just trying to be decent and give you some information and you're just showing me a lot of contempt.

I'll admit, I thought you were completely wrong to attack the entire show but I read your posts. I made a considerations based on what you were saying and how it effected you. I gave you that respect. Jackie being wrong doesn't make Brian right.

NiCi

May 20, 2008 - 06:04 PM

QUOTE (Nama @ May 20, 2008 - 06:32 PM)

Hey Guys- Look, I tried to read through some of the responses from a couple of days ago and I'm not sure if I saw everything but I'll say this, I didn't mean to offend you with my ladies statement. It's just something I say and that comes from my mother. So I apologize if you think I was trying to be a jerk. I wasn't. I also agree that the post I put up was long but I thought it had some valid points about Reality Television in general.
Look, you guys have your opinions of Jackie and that's cool. She's not perfect. If you have some sort of issue with what went down, then fine but don't for one second think that Peeler is some sort of victim. I can't get specific with you but I don't even think I need to. Peeler dropped out of high school in the 10th Grade. What I'm saying is that he's not the most informed of individuals. He is a compulsive liar and he uses people. Where I'm from, that kind of person is not called a survivor, he's called a thug or criminal. If Peeler was black, he would not be getting the kind of praise and defense he's getting, at least not from white folks. Attack me all you want on that but I've lived it. I don't want to make this a race thing but I don't know too many successful black 10th grade dropouts in the area of training or athletics. I also see a lot of ripping on Jackie's education. All I can say to that is check yourself and maybe Brian Peeler.

I'm just going to give you my last thoughts and then you won't have to deal with me again. Consider your source when defending Peeler. It's mostly been him. As I said, I can't get specific but I don't think I need to. He's said enough on camera and in print to support all of his lies and if you don't believe what I say and offer you, go find 'Kate.' She'll have plenty to say. As for Greg P., he barely knows Brian. Peeler wants to attach his wagon to Greg's star so he's been the perfect pup around him.

Brian is a master manipulator or maybe you guys just think that means righteous survivor? Either way, if you ask him something 3 times, he'll contradict himself 6 times.

The Charlotte Observer gives the basics:

Peeler grew up in Granite Quarry, just outside Salisbury, and dropped out of East Rowan High in 10th grade. An athlete and certified trainer, he tried working in construction, as a flight attendant and as a model, without much success.

So he sold his stuff and left for California in his beat-up Isuzu, with just enough gas money to get there. He spent his last $20 on a photo to help him get cast as a movie or TV extra, he said.

The casting calls led to few roles. But Peeler made friends, and one told him to capitalize on his trainer experience instead of pining for his dream role. Peeler got a job at a gym and was recruiting customers when he heard about tryouts for the Bravo show.

Peeler said he crashed the audition for kicks. He nailed the gig by being himself. Now he's on TV, doing what he loves and hoping for his next big break.

"I came out here with nothing, and now my life is so great," said Peeler, soon to be married.

This interview shows Peeler in his element. Take this and match it up to the recent one you guys posted. He also must have forgotten what he told The Charlotte Observer. I think we learn a great deal in the 11th and 12th Grades? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we should stop at Middle School?

Hello Work Out fans. Today I have the hottie..err, I mean the amazing trainer Brian Peeler of Bravos Work Out on the phone.

Brian Peeler: Hello.
Us: Hello Peeler.

Us: First off, congratulations on your recent nuptials.
BP: Thank you.

Us: So, do you read the Bravo boards?
BP: I have read the message boards. There are a lot of haters there. People are like he's a douche, [expletive deleted], they are mean. Once, someone made a bad comment about Doug. I got so mad. I responded. They didn't post my reply though. I waited the 24 hours it takes to get it approved but it didn't make it I guess.
Us: People are brave at their keyboards.
BP: Right. If they got a problem with me, they know where I'm at. I'm at 35 Wilshire from 8am until 9pm.

Us: Are you portrayed accurately on the show?
BP: Yeah, I think so. You don't get to see the nicer side of me.

Us: We got to see more of you this season. Do you think it was because of your friendship with Doug?
BP: Laura Alverez is the producer and let the audience see the real me. She wasn't like our producer from season 1. She liked to stir up drama and made me a meathead. I'm really easy going.

Us: Are you close with any of the other trainers?
BP: I was close with Doug. He was like family. We hung out. He was my girl-gurl. I am close with Andre, Jesse too I guess.
Us: Do you get fans coming up to you, recognizing you?
BP: Yeah, all the time. People do think they know me when they see me and that's ok. I'm very personable and friendly. If it wasn't for the fans, I wouldn't be anybody, know what I mean? I'm very approachable. I also used to be a ladies man. I met my wife about a month before the show but before that, there were 3-4 women a week in my bed. There were no complaints though. They knew what they were getting into. I wasn't looking for a relationship.
Us: You both were consenting adults doing what you wanted to do, right?
BP: Right.

Us: What do you do other then training?
BP: I race cars and motorcycles professionally. I also do stunt driving. I fly planes and helicopters. I used to be a flight attendant for US airways.

Us: Wait a minute, a flight attendant?
BP: Yeah, they had a program where you didn't need a 4 year degree to get your flying time in. I also modeled in Miami. I decided Hollywood was where I needed to be. I have been here about 3 1/2 years now.
Us: You're very funny. We saw Zen try her hand at stand up. Have you ever thought of giving it a try?
BP: I am a comedian. I will have you pissing your pants. I should charge people for a work out when I get them laughing. That's $135 an hour. But I'm not comfortable trying to be funny..I'm very competitive. I drive the fastest cars, fastest motorcycles. I can't be put on the spot and be funny. It doesn't work that way for me. Stand up comedy or theatre is not my thing.

Us: Is there anything about the show you would like to see changed?
BP: Less drama.
Us: Lesbian drama?
BP: Lol, Less drama.

Us: Speaking of lesbian drama, how real was the Rebecca/Jackie fling?
BP: It was real. Rebecca was like how can I get more face time and it was F^ck Jackie. So she did.
Us: So Jesse was right when he said that about Rebecca on the show?
BP: Yes.

Us: When will you be shooting season 3?
BP: We start shooting in Oct. But I'm not sure who will be there. I'm going to have to go Omorosa to stay and get more face time.

Us: Why wouldn't you be on the show?
BP: Jackie had trainer tryouts and she hired two trainers, Agostino and Chris (we couldn't find any information on the new guys) and we are not sure what they are going to focus on. We think the seasons focus will be on SkyLab.

Us: How did you hear about the show? Did you already work for Jackie?
BP: No, I was a trainer somewhere else. I had tried out for a documentary then six months later I get a call saying I had got the show for Bravo. I was like Bravo? What's Bravo? I had never heard of it or watched it. So I was like Ok, Bravo, a predominately gay network, that's fine. I'm no homophobe. Lol, Doug and I went to gay clubs, and Doug would be like " We are like gods, lol" It was amazing. You remember the house, where we had Doug's birthday party at? That was Doug's place. He lived with the creator of Desperate Housewives. It doesn't pay nothing though, being on Work Out.

Us: You don't get paid for being on the show?
BP: We get paid but it isn't much. For season 1, we got $350 per episode. For season 2, we got $500 per episode.
Us: That's it!?!
BP: That's it. That's why reality shows are so popular. They are cheap to make. I'm a SAG actor and with the minimum pay per week, we should be getting $3000-6000 per week with the hours we put in. The shows budget was $1.96 million. That's nothing.

Us: Wow, that's terrible. Does the exposure help you get clients?
BP: Not really. I've not had a lot of extra people to train since the show. I charge $135 an hour. Jackie charges $400 per hour. People want Jackie. It's a 70-30 split with Jackie and I pay a $15 gym fee. People want to see, not work out. I get more people from Myspace wanting to work out then I get from people who watched the show. I am a teacher and I care about my clients. If you don't plan on taking care of your body where do you plan on living for the rest of your life? I want to teach them to take care of themselves.

Us: I think I would ask for a pay raise.
BP: I am. If they don't want to then I'm going to try for my own show. Right now I'm locked in, no training anywhere else. Something I want to try to do is workout videos on the web. It will be $10 a month for six videos and four new ones added a month.

Us: That's a great idea for people like me who can't get to you or your gym.
BP: Right. It would be basic stuff you can do at home.

Us: Tell me about Jesse.
BP: Jesse is Jackie's puppet, Rebecca too. Jesse puts on a show, its who he is.

Us: Was Mimi as bad as she seemed on TV?
BP: There is a reason people are the way they are with Jackie. Mimi painted a picture of Kate and I kissing. I have that picture. She was all right. Jackie was edited to look better. Jackie has a lot of issues I think. She's kind hearted but I think issues with her dad and other stuff have affected her. I've tried to get to know Jackie but she doesn't return calls. Jackie and I are competitive too. Jackie was like I can take any girl away from her. No, you can't.

Us: Do you watch any TV?
BP: Yeah, I like Prison Break, Greys Anatomy, House, Entourage. I was watching Real Housewives of Orange County before we got our show. I watch Kathy Griffin but I can only take her for a little bit.

Us: Do you have anything you would like to say to your fans?
BP: I'm gay.
Us: Well, your wife will be upset to hear this.

BP: Just kidding. No, I want to thank them and let them know to feel free to approach me. I was getting ice cream for my wife a few days ago and I could hear this girl going "is that the guy...?" and her friends were like go ask him but she wouldn't. Go ahead and ask me, I don't mind. I'm not psycho. I will not turn on you.

Us: Some people wouldn't want to be approached, that their "private life" was being imposed upon.
BP: My Private life is in private, at home. When I am in public, it's not my private life. Also, don't forget to check out my website, http://www.brianpeeler.com/.

Us: Thanks for calling Peeler. Feel free to contact us if you ever have the anything you'd like to promote or to tell your fans.
BP: OK, will do. Maybe tell Bravo we need more then eight episodes.

US: Well, we started a petition at our Top Chef blog to get Ted Allen on TC full-time and it worked. Maybe we could do the same for you?
BP: Hell yeah, do a petition. Do a petition to get me my own show, lol.

Us: We will get that petition started Peeler, good luck

http://bravissimoblog2.blogspot.com/2007/0...ian-peeler.html

Here's one of my favorite comments from that blog which sums up everything that is Brian Peeler:

hottdog said:
I have a question.
he says that he didn't know what Bravo was, never had heard of it. Then,
how is that possible that he watched the real housewifes of orange county? A show by Bravo?!?

Hey, this is just the tip of the iceberg. I got it on the Jackie thing. You made me understand. I still don't agree with the boycott and I'll never agree with anything even remotely positive said about Brian Peeler. Sorry guys. I'm not here to offend but I did want to get my point across. There are always two sides to a story and in this case, a lot more to the story. Remember that when you watch tonight's show.

Peace - And I mean that Nici. I hope I got that right.

Nama
This may surprise you, but I read your entire post. You are right, there are two sides to every story. The two sides may never agree, but if they are willing to listen to each other, something valuable has been gained. (We, perhaps, will have to agree to disagree on the issue at hand) I am glad that we are moving past disrespect and I do believe that you mean Peace this time and so I also wish you Peace.

Snagglepuss

May 20, 2008 - 06:05 PM

We were all just called racists as well!

Because Brian Peeler is white! WOW!
I am learning some much about myself and my personal beliefs.
Thanks for pointing all that out!
So now it's no longer "it's because Jackie is a lesbian" it's "because Peeler is white"!
Wow, sounds like someone really likes to group people based solely on gender, sexual identity & now race. hmmm... Good job defending your Hero- with friend's like you, she should walk away from this relatively unscathed.

Fallzone

May 20, 2008 - 06:06 PM

QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 20, 2008 - 06:56 PM)

Sorry I was MAD! I am also not going to edit the poor spelling...

I thought it gave you street cred.

These visitors are so stuck in the mud their splatter is everywhere. Just because it was a kick to have Peeler post when other principals wouldn't doesn't mean he gets a gold star for deportment.

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 06:07 PM

I can no longer comment on nama's post! Now all of a sudden Education=Character.

We kind of heard that the other day regarding tattoo's.....

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 06:11 PM

Yeah, I also saw allot of that and once again this poster, "Knows each and every one of us personally"

Things must be rough surrounding Ms. Warner's people???

QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 20, 2008 - 06:05 PM)

We were all just called racists as well!

Because Brian Peeler is white! WOW!
I am learning some much about myself and my personal beliefs.
Thanks for pointing all that out!
So now it's no longer "it's because Jackie is a lesbian" it's "because Peeler is white"!
Wow, sounds like someone really likes to group people based solely on gender, sexual identity & now race. hmmm... Good job defending your Hero- with friend's like you, she should walk away from this relatively unscathed.

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 06:14 PM

Get Ready! That hour is upon us...

Snagglepuss

May 20, 2008 - 06:16 PM

I was also going to come out of the "educational background" closet as well.
But I have way too many cards as it is. I can't accept another. They just won't fit. I feel like George Costanza with the big fat wallet!

peglam

May 20, 2008 - 06:17 PM

Peeler is a HUGE liar. Remember when he first met Plitt on the show, and Plitt said he was in the military, and Peeler said "oh, I was a navy seal..." LIAR. He is VERY insecure and HATES any kind of authority. He was a HUGE bully in 9th grade. He is not with his wife because he cheated on her time and time again. Please...don't stick up for this guy. Huge opportunist.

Also funny is.............. everyone here is like, ganging up on people that opposed Peeler. Its laughable. Some posters actually say"we" when referring to other posters. Group think. Watch the shows, and watch Peeler..he aint so great. Dont let him fool you. Watch, you will see. Print this out, and refer back to it. I kid you not.

Snagglepuss

May 20, 2008 - 06:20 PM

QUOTE (peglam @ May 20, 2008 - 06:17 PM)

Peeler is a HUGE liar. Remember when he first met Plitt on the show, and Plitt said he was in the military, and Peeler said "oh, I was a navy seal..." LIAR. He is VERY insecure and HATES any kind of authority. He was a HUGE bully in 9th grade. He is not with his wife because he cheated on her time and time again. Please...don't stick up for this guy. Huge opportunist.

Also funny is.............. everyone here is like, ganging up on people that opposed Peeler. Its laughable. Some posters actually say"we" when referring to other posters. Group think. Watch the shows, and watch Peeler..he aint so great. Dont let him fool you. Watch, you will see. Print this out, and refer back to it. I kid you not.

I'm here because of Jackie's overall behavior NOT to because of Peeler. Please don't lump us all together.

merriberries

May 20, 2008 - 06:24 PM

I saw the episode w/ the comment on peelers client and Lisa the receptionist should of been reprimanded or fired. if Jackie was a professiional in her business she should of cut lisa off and said not in here or wait till later and dicussed the boobs then. so i think lisa should be the one in trouble!!!! like shut up girl I think peeler is a little lessie -phobic but i don't think he should of been fired but in the end it is jackie business but lisa ssh the rude comments........

Kiasmama

May 20, 2008 - 06:24 PM

QUOTE (Nama @ May 20, 2008 - 05:32 PM)

I can't get specific with you but I don't even think I need to. Peeler dropped out of high school in the 10th Grade. What I'm saying is that he's not the most informed of individuals. He is a compulsive liar and he uses people.

How do you know Peeler? Did you grow up with him? You are making alot of assumptions about level of education and one's ability to be "informed". One could say the same about Ms. Warner, but I guess you would say...."at least she finished high school"

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 06:26 PM

I didn't put PEELER on a Pedestal. You should go back and read EVERY post....

You need to show further proof of your reference of PEELERS background to have any Credibility with me....

Rumors and hear-say are not going to work...

As far as opportunist. So what we use what we have to get ahead...

Look at Ms. Warner????????

QUOTE (peglam @ May 20, 2008 - 06:17 PM)

Peeler is a HUGE liar. Remember when he first met Plitt on the show, and Plitt said he was in the military, and Peeler said "oh, I was a navy seal..." LIAR. He is VERY insecure and HATES any kind of authority. He was a HUGE bully in 9th grade. He is not with his wife because he cheated on her time and time again. Please...don't stick up for this guy. Huge opportunist.

Also funny is.............. everyone here is like, ganging up on people that opposed Peeler. Its laughable. Some posters actually say"we" when referring to other posters. Group think. Watch the shows, and watch Peeler..he aint so great. Dont let him fool you. Watch, you will see. Print this out, and refer back to it. I kid you not.

NiCi

May 20, 2008 - 06:27 PM

QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 20, 2008 - 07:05 PM)

We were all just called racists as well!

Because Brian Peeler is white! WOW!
I am learning some much about myself and my personal beliefs.
Thanks for pointing all that out!
So now it's no longer "it's because Jackie is a lesbian" it's "because Peeler is white"!
Wow, sounds like someone really likes to group people based solely on gender, sexual identity & now race. hmmm... Good job defending your Hero- with friend's like you, she should walk away from this relatively unscathed.

I'm getting so used to being called stuff on this board that it does not even scathe me any more. Maybe I am just weary.

It is the same old argument, guys (try and make it about Peeler, sexual orientation, gender... it was only a matter of time before it became about race) anything but what it is REALLY about - how a certain person is treating other people indecently, and we are standing up against this(and that we would be standing up against if that person was straight, male, highly educated etc.)!

Remember when we were supposed to drop it because the breasts in question were not augmented due to the cancer? Remember when we were supposed to hate the owner of the breasts in question and her boyfriend because he had tatoos and a mohawk? Remember when we were supposed to drop it because Deenie was an actress, and smoked and was a bit of a pain in the tooshie anyway? Remember when we were supposed to drop it because it was none of our business, there were better causes, all the players were adults, no one has been sued, no on is perfect ..... And don't forget our favorites, we are not really gay/love people who are gay, have not really had cancer/lost loved ones to cancer!

So the new twist is, we are to hate Peeler because he is not perfect and he did not graduate highschool.

We still find a certain person's behavior indecent and we are standing up for decency in how people are treated. That is our bottom line, has been our bottom line, and will continue to be our bottom line. We have never hidden this, we have stated it loudly and repeatedly and no matter what comes, we will continue to state it (at least I will). So, Bring it on! I am weary, but I will take it.

NEXT!

barb29

May 20, 2008 - 06:28 PM

I'm not here to support Peeler either. The issue is not about him.

NiCi

May 20, 2008 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 20, 2008 - 07:16 PM)

I was also going to come out of the "educational background" closet as well.
But I have way too many cards as it is. I can't accept another. They just won't fit. I feel like George Costanza with the big fat wallet!

You know they make one of these things circle things that holds a bunch of cards and you just have to hold the circle thing. Maybe you all could get these as wedding favors!

NiCi

May 20, 2008 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE (barb29 @ May 20, 2008 - 07:28 PM)

I'm not here to support Peeler either. The issue is not about him.

Never was!

Kiasmama

May 20, 2008 - 06:31 PM

QUOTE (peglam @ May 20, 2008 - 06:17 PM)

Peeler is a HUGE liar. Remember when he first met Plitt on the show, and Plitt said he was in the military, and Peeler said "oh, I was a navy seal..." LIAR.

Am I the only one that knew Peeler said that in jest? Army Ranger-Navy Seal.....Army vs Navy.....get it. I dunno, I thought it was very clear he was being sarcastic.

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 06:31 PM

Some one needs to re-post every link to every sponsor and we need to all re-write them...

Where is that Petition again...

Kiasmama

May 20, 2008 - 06:32 PM

QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 20, 2008 - 06:20 PM)

I'm here because of Jackie's overall behavior NOT to because of Peeler. Please don't lump us all together.

I agree..I'm not sure I said I love Peeler or was defending him or anything like that. I think my posts are about jackie's behavior. I could be wrong though....been taking Tylenol 3 lately..so...

peglam

May 20, 2008 - 06:33 PM

QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 20, 2008 - 07:20 PM)

I'm here because of Jackie's overall behavior NOT to because of Peeler. Please don't lump us all together.

Uh, have you READ your own posts?????? "Please don't lump US all together"???????????????????? Exactly. You didn't write "please don't lump me in with everyone else". Funny stuff.

BooglieOoglie

May 20, 2008 - 06:33 PM

QUOTE (Nama @ May 20, 2008 - 06:46 PM)

I swear this is my last post but if it's not? Well hey, just call it a Peeler.

I just want to concede one thing here, Brian probably really didn't know what Bravo was. It is possible that he didn't watch Real Housewives until after Work Out. I can't even think of when Housewives premiered?

Nama I have said many times that there were numerous times during the years before that Warner was justified in firing Peeler. This was a really bad time for her to do it. I think she should have talked to him about a horrible comment directed to their client. He is a subcontractor so it was both of their clients. He deserved an answer. If she would have given him a couple of days, she probably would have had another reason that did not make her look so much like a heartless unprofessional gym owner who has no respect for their clients. As it is, he was standing up for his client who survived breast cancer.
My problem is with how she allowed an employee talk about a client in her gym. My problem is with how she bad mouth Olivia Cruises when she got back from the cruise, telling her gf that it was one bad meal after another, and cramped quarters. (Olivia not only pulled their support but banned all Workout employees)My problem is how she kisses her employees, and sleeps with others. My problem is encouraging her employees to get drunk. (drinking is fine, drunk is dangerous) I could go on but I will leave off the list at that.
If it was only a couple of those, I would not be this upset but crap keeps getting piled on. This show was marketed to the gay community as a strong professional businesswoman who happens to be gay, running a premier gym. This is not a reality like so many others, where people lie cheat and steal to win a million dollars, or a date, or a modeling gig. Warner has made quite a bit of money because she shared her life on camera, she should not be surprised that bad behavior will also cost her money, clients, support, and advertisers. It is a two edged sword.

peglam

May 20, 2008 - 06:34 PM

QUOTE (Kiasmama @ May 20, 2008 - 07:32 PM)

I agree..I'm not sure I said I love Peeler or was defending him or anything like that. I think my posts are about jackie's behavior. I could be wrong though....been taking Tylenol 3 lately..so...

A great deal of these posts are about Peeler,and how he has been victimized by Jackie.

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 06:35 PM

My girl Hillary is not looking like she will win the White House (I worked on her campaign for 3 months here in Cali) Looks like I will have to work for Obama for the White House....

Call me whatever you want, "at least I get involved"

Snagglepuss

May 20, 2008 - 06:36 PM

QUOTE (Kiasmama @ May 20, 2008 - 06:24 PM)

How do you know Peeler? Did you grow up with him? You are making alot of assumptions about level of education and one's ability to be "informed". One could say the same about Ms. Warner, but I guess you would say...."at least she finished high school"

I agree Kiasmama,
Why do all of the Jackie supporters quote "unnamed sources" and "inside intel". Without any proof.
Whenever I have posted something Jackie has said
(or someone else has said regarding her), I've tried to include my source material (it's what a good reporter does right NICI?

).

If you have no proof (I don't know like say a videotape from Jackie's office, that's what I want to see....) to back up your posts, maybe you should consider leaving that information out? All of this "Cloak & Dagger" and "you will see"...... stuff. It just makes you look less than credible.

Nama

May 20, 2008 - 06:36 PM

QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 20, 2008 - 04:11 PM)

Yeah, I also saw allot of that and once again this poster. "Knows each and every one of us personally"

Things must be rough surrounding Ms. Warner's people???

I didn't call you or anyone a racist. I simply shared my view and experience as a black man. I have read your posts as well as LiamINLongBeach's posts. I think I can safely say that all three of us have had challenges and faced discrimination at one point or another. Now I doubt it's been the same but we know in this world, it's always a possibility.
As far as education equaling character, I tell you that my mother raised her family alone and no, she never graduated from high school. She was and continues to be a woman of outstanding character and courage but c'mon, that's irrelevant. Brian Peeler's lack of character has nothing to do with his education. Plus, you know I brought it up because of the posts questioning Jackie Warner's education. I was trying to make a point.
I just deleted the rest of my post because I don't think it matters. As I said, I was angry about the calls for cancellation and I'll own my kneejerk response to that. Everything else, I've said.

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 06:38 PM

OK and the rest are ???? Whats your point??? PEELER can answer for himself.....

QUOTE (peglam @ May 20, 2008 - 06:34 PM)

A great deal of these posts are about Peeler,and how he has been victimized by Jackie.

Kiasmama

May 20, 2008 - 06:39 PM

QUOTE (peglam @ May 20, 2008 - 06:34 PM)

A great deal of these posts are about Peeler,and how he has been victimized by Jackie.

I cant' recall many people standing up for Peeler per se. They might not have agreed that the firing was proper....in the sense that there were other opportunities to fire him for more egregious things-but I can't recall anyone saying he was victimized. Jackie hasnt' treated anyone very well this season, that includes Peeler.

JCpalmsprings

May 20, 2008 - 06:40 PM

You deleted it because it was, "irrelevent"......

QUOTE (Nama @ May 20, 2008 - 06:36 PM)

I didn't call you or anyone a racist. I simply shared my view and experience as a black man. I have read your posts as well as LiamINLongBeach's posts. I think I can safely say that all three of us have had challenges and faced discrimination at one point or another. Now I doubt it's been the same but we know in this world, it's always a possibility.
As far as education equaling character, I tell you that my mother raised her family alone and no, she never graduated from high school. She was and continues to be a woman of outstanding character and courage but c'mon, that's irrelevant. Brian Peeler's lack of character has nothing to do with his education. Plus, you know I brought it up because of the posts questioning Jackie Warner's education. I was trying to make a point.
I just deleted the rest of my post because I don't think it matters. As I said, I was angry about the calls for cancellation and I'll own my kneejerk response to that. Everything else, I've said.