Okay, I feel another scene coming on... give me a minute! And a cookie!

Certainly not, but I never claimed it. You shouldn't have either.

I can only speak for myself on this one. I "used to be a fan" of Work Out. I am still here because I am an optimist. I had (and I suppose I still have) the hope that Bravo would step up and address it's longstanding fan's concerns. You see, Work Out is not the only Bravo show I have watched and there are others I am a fan of and watch now and some I had been planning on continuing to watch. I am still waiting for Bravo to address this, and what better place to wait than on the Bravo board for the show that is being addressed? I still hope that they do, and if they do, I will be here to hear about it. If they do not, well I have already stopped watching Work Out, I will probably stop watching all the shows I have been watching and had planned to continue watching on Bravo. That is why I am still here.

SCENE ONE

Enter CLARAKOTKA and KIASMAMA

KIASMAMA: Are you sure, Clara? Not even both ways?

CLARAKOTKA: Kia, you are wonderful! But I must be true to myself and my vagina.

KIASMAMA: Do what you have to do.

FADE

SCENE TWO

CLARAKOTKA sits alone, writing.

CLARAKOTKA: This poem is for a very special toaster...

You are typing in caps because they are hard of hearing? Go to bed, its past your bedtime, Jackie hater.

I am perfectly able to answer for myself, thank you. What arrogance, first you would tell me what I should be doing with my time, then you would answer a question for me? Whyd don't you open your mind and actually read the answer I wrote?!

damn I was hoping scene 2 had something to do with........self love if you get my drift

Read back in the posts and you will see that I did not claim it, wrong poster, dude!

Funny, I wrote "they" and you assumed I was answering for you.

That's ok, it all goes to the same place.

After the writing is complete, HE enters. Pan to the fire.

All you do is insult people. None of us Hate Jackie.

We despise her behavior. Rude behavior has not happened

on this board EXCEPT WHEN JACKIE SUPPORTERS BEGIN

VERBALLY ASSAULTING US. That is the difference between

those of us upset about Jackie's bully behavior towards

anyone who she claims is disrespectful to Jackie Warner.

The thing is, as viewers the only disrespectful person I

and others on here have seen is Jackie Warner. We wouldn't

be so upset had we not truly enjoyed this show the first season

and a big part of the second season. This sort of dismantles

all the pro Jackie's supporters arguments. If we were just the

way you say we would not have been watching the show for two

seasons and then decided to stop watching and begin complaining

about her behavior during the third season. This is what happens so

one more bit of proof that your claims are absurd.

Kari Ana

Anyone can infer whatever they would like about me and my intentions.

Call me crazy all you want but what do you call the person who belittles the "crazy person" for their own enjoyment?

I still haven't heard any real proof to explain Jackie's behavior on Work Out.
Just someone still beating the same tired drum about Peeler lovers & Jackie haters and this show being fiction.

I heard you...... (reaches his hand back "quick somebody hand me that banana"....)

I do not hate Jackie Warner, I am upset by her behavior.

Name calling....Bully behavior?!

The post you replied to was a reply to my post, therefore, the question was logically addressed to me.

Sorry, that does not work. You all posted your hate about Jackie. got some opposers, and that you find insulting. You tell me where I have insulted, when I was not insulted first. Sarcastic, maybe. But, hey, that is just plain fun. I don't know you from a can of paint, so don';t take it too personally. But, know that you will not bully me.

And, its just hard NOT to write something like " verbally assault you?" Its too easy.

I thought it was logically adressed to you too!

Jackie hater is name calling? Gee, my apologies, I didnt mean to insult.

Take the banana, please. I offered it to you earlier with the hopes it would entice you to eat it.
I don't think anyone called you crazy. Well, not on the posts anyway.

Okay, so I have finally been provoked into posting my thoughts on here. I have watched Workout sporadically over the previous seasons and found myself drawn to watching this season. I have spent a good long time reading the unbelievable number of posts regarding the whole Jackie controversy. I am left with the following observation: Many people want to justify and/or defend the posts on this board using a myriad of reasons/excuses/ prejudices, etc. The personalities and lifestyles and various issues regarding both Jackie and Peeler really dont have the slightest thing to do with the heartfelt reaction of many fans regarding what they feel is unacceptable behavior for anyone in a business setting. I am a manager of a service industry staff. The catty remarks directed at a customer are unacceptable, whether the customer is a cancer survivor or the biggest pain in the ass ever. They are your customer, show respect. Same thing goes for an employee, there are ways to deal with employees and ways not to.

That Jackie and Bravo have chosen not to validate their viewer's reaction is really the reason this has continued. Regardless of whether or not this is reality or just a show that's scripted; the only real reality is that the viewers, the fans, are Bravo's and Workout's "customer". Without us, they can't exist. Its obvious from these boards that a large number of their "customers" have felt let down, and unhappy with the content of the show. Instead of responding to that we have gotten pretty much a "hey if you dont like it, tough [expletive deleted]" attitude. It's not so surprising therefore that behavior like Jackie's seems to be Bravo's idea of entertainment.

Do any of you realize that just by being on this board, by clicking, by posting, you are supporting Bravo and Work Out? You know that, right?

Well put. Very valid points. But, really..people just have to NOT watch the show. turn the channel. There are not really customers, because there is no real need or real transaction. I mean, just turn the channel.

Would you please provide the number of the post where is stated that I hate Jackie?
You will find me writing that her behavior was disgusting in the Breast incident and toward Peeler when he tried to talk to her about the situation. But hate?

I find it alarming the way Jackie has been acting out, i.e. drinking, workplace inappropriate behavior, Brianna. It makes me wonder if she's really doing okay or if she's going down a bad spiral. Which would be a shame, she has things to offer and its disappointing to see her possibly falling apart. I wonder what her therapist thinks if she even watches the show.

Here's the biggest problem with that argument. The people stirring up this little storm of outrage don't come close to the number of people still tuning in. You see, numbers like that get reported in AdWeek and Advertising Age and the mainstream press in general. So far, the number of people who are "outraged" is small. What you're doing is trying to be a great big party pooper over a show you DO NOT HAVE TO WATCH! Most people watching the show are totally unaware of this controversy. They're not reading Bravo Boards and AfterEllen. No one is paying attention. I have a problem with a small group of people trying to dictate what I watch! I want to watch the show! You don't have to watch! You're not a fan! I don't believe it anymore. I really think many of you are bent on getting this (in your head) immoral perverse show taken off the air because liberal open-minded people wouldn't care but most importantly, fair, open-minded individuals understand the value in the First Amendment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To gay viewers, you're playing into the devil's hand. These are the same people who protest gay marriage and wanted Ellen off the air! You believe they're not anti-gay? Think again! It took decades to get Gay and Lesbians on television and now you're fighting to have them taken off? Be careful what you wish for!

I don't bully anyone. I stand up against those who BULLY. This is why

I stand up against Jackie Warner.

Kari Ana

The same way a retail establishment or a restaurant can say, "hey just go somewhere else, dont come here" Not good business! That is the point I'm trying to make here. Yes we can not watch, but why alienate so many people when a simple statement or just an acknowledgement would make a difference. Also by locking these boards and not allowing the discussion a few days ago, it was a pretty definitive non-answer. Along with the fact that these fans when pushed can rally to affect sponsorship, it seems very arrogant of Bravo to ignore the issue. I'm not saying the show should even be taken off the air, or that Jackie "has to go". I'm just amazed by the way this has all played out.

Dacia, I've lost 5. That's nothing to be sarcastic about.

I'm sure envirnmental factors do play a part. I think in the case of my clan genetics plays a bigger part. Which is scary.

You let me know when you're ready for some poetic confections. The latest issue of the online zine wicked alice is excellent (and I'm in it).

As far as being on here, I'm a frequenter of the Top Chef and Step It Up boards, too. I've stated before, I'm not giving up my Top Chef. Spike ... yummy!

That was really good point about how just being on these boards supports bravo through ad revenue.

I have been a long term viewer, I have posted on numerous Bravo boards and blogs. I've spoken to Andy Cohen on the phone during some of the online post shows. I have been doing this since 2005.

I hadn't thought that I do have proof that I am a long term Bravo viewer! That all of my posts and emails and conversations are right here on this site!!!

That should carry some weight, that me, a long term Bravo viewer with proof to back it up, is unhappy! I can prove I'm not somebody who is pretending to watch the show.

I am writing to the president of Bravo immediately with proof of my long term Bravo loyalty. Thanks Dacia!

Bump

Well said Tessie, welcome- I can't offer you Kool-Aid (as one of the posters implied) but how about a cookie and a hug?

Oh, Clara, Spike ... really? With all his ratty hats and his squash soup and his sexy salad, and bathing with the kiwi and the "wheres the 'maters?"...That Spike? Bleh! Only one worse is Lisa!

Hurray for cookies and hugs!!!

Absolutely! I second that!

Well, that episode puts the -30- to my viewership. Eight minutes of quality sandwiched between soft porn and absurdly inappropriate behavior. I have no idea what demographic Bravo is trying to reach, but I cannot be on the list. I'm going the old-fashioned way with my criticism this time ... stationery and a stamp. I'll exercise that right and then change channels.

Welcome???? Do you own the board? Odd. Very odd. I didn't imply it, I actually wrote the Kool aid thing. I thought it was fitting.

Okay, my little brainchild, you do realize the show is heavily edited. It's about 6 hours of footage. How many hours in a whole year? You do the math. I think the therapist is pretty aware that the show is very much taken out of context, pieced together for entertainment and that unless you were there, you have NO idea what actually happened.

I think you need to study up on MLK. The quote and the man stand in complete opposition to your trivial so-called cause. It's insulting. Jackie Warner is on an entertainment show. Everyone involved is a consenting adult. No one is a victim.

Martin Luther King gave his life fighting for the civil rights of African Americans!!!!! We're talking about extreme racism, segregation, lynching, KKK!!! It's really sick that you would even suggest that you are speaking out on a "cause" by putting his quote on your posts.

You are severely misinformed and bordering on complete ignorance. Defending Brian Peeler? Catty comments? Consenting adults? Not anywhere near the same category as not having basic civil rights. I think I’m seeing red right now.

So, you wasted an hour of your life. Um, should not have even tuned in.

Thank You for your post After reading all of the other pages, I was glad to see something that was on topic and without the bashing of other viewers.

Yeah!!! and, while you are at it, why don't you ask them to remove you from the board too? Yeah, write to the President of Bravo, I am sure she will write back pronto. Careful, she may hate Kool aid.

I'm so laughing right now. Thanks!

Hardly wasted. If I had not "tuned in", I would be woefully uninformed about what floats your boat.

I love his hats!!! And his Vanilla Love soup!
But I think Richard will win, I hope he does, even over Spike (yum). I don't care for Lisa either. Everytime she comes on I make an involuntary ewww-face.

No, you really don't.

Gee, all these folks coming onto the boards posting messages about how stupid it is to post on a message board.........

What I say doesn't matter, so I am going to keep saying it.
What I think doesn't matter, so I am going to keep thinking for myself.
What I do doesn't matter, so I am going to keep doing it, won't hurt anybody.... since it doesn't matter!

If what I am doing here is an exercise in futility, then what is your insistence that I stop? Sounds like another exercise in futility......

Come on everybody time to exercise!

I skipped a lot of the post to get to the end to see what people were saying about tonight's show, so I maybe resaying what someone else has said. I was very mad at Jackie 2 weeks ago, but on tonight's show she handled herself well. First round Peeler, second round Jackie. He was understandable upset, but he really made himself look like a jerk. Sorry Dude!

You really are just an uneducated child aren't you? You really have no idea. You're just a little girl with a crush on Peeler and a crush on Spike. Probably have posters on your wall. Yeah, the lonely girls in my high school always belonged to the drama club and wrote poetry. I should have recognized the clues. Sorry about that.

You don't know enough about MLK to understand his quotes, where they came from and in what context. Going to a quote webpage doesn't count.

Advice: give up the poetry and drama and crack some text books.