Little did she know... They want Spike!

If Jackie was a straight male I wouldn't need to defend Jackie because 98% of the audience would. Adam, a contestant on Big Brother 9, made some derogatory remarks about retarded children while he was in the house. Adam works with special needs children and is a straight male. The special needs population and their allies protested the remarks. Big Brother fans along with CBS rebuffed their concerns and supported Adam. He eventually won. The audience would say exactly what I have been saying i.e. Jackie didn't know Jaime Eason had breast cancer, Jaime got breast implants for cosmetic reasons, Brian was insubordinate, disrespectful, a hanger on, self-aborbed, delusional etc. And you can bet the house that they would call him a stud for attracting all those women.

"If they (women) succeed [in male-dominated occupations], their co-workers, both male and female, may unfairly see them as unsociable and difficult to work with." "The successful women were characterized as more selfish, manipulative and untrustworthy--your typical constellation of 'bitchy' characteristics."

http://www.apa.org/monitor/julaug04/women.html

"...when women are acknowledged to have been successful, they are less liked and more personally derogated than equivalently successful men; these negative reactions occur only when the success is in an arena that is distinctly male in character (which owning a gym is)"

http://psycnet.apa.org/index.cfm?fa=main.d...=2004-95165-003

Here are two more studies on women's in power and gender experession.

http://www.ucm.es/info/Psi/docs/journal/v1...2008/art55.pdff
http://www.sociology.fsu.edu/people/padavi...action_1991.pdf



As far as we know Brian didn't apologize to the organizers or auctioneer of the charity event. That is what really matters. Not coming on a message board to apologize to fans of Work Out.



I used Big Brother as an example.

Larceny, it didn't matter when Jackie fired Brian Peeler people were going to be angry. Look at last season's response to when he almost got fired.

Ah, a trekker.

Hmm..I wonder if she did give any actual $$$$$$ to the charity.

No, Gloria Allred would be on every talk show talking about it and forming a lawsuit. How many other hi profile women would come to the rescuse of Jaimie....a lot. Jackie is LUCKY she is a woman. Otherwise the fallout would be incredible.

My friend who watches Big Brother informed me that not only was there a huge backlash over Adam's comment, but he also got fired from his job because of it. Also, she said he's apologized over and over and over again; and offered to donate part of his winnings from the show.

That is how someone who has done something wrong reacts, they step up and take accountability for their actions. Jackie has done nothing. Nil. Nada.

None of this, NONE, would have blown up to such a proportion if Jackie had apologized for her role in the ridicule of Jamie. That's what the majority here have been saying over and over again. To be accountable for what you do and try to make a wrong, right.

You don't make that wrong, right, by then firing someone who was speaking up on behalf of the injured party. If she wanted to fire Peeler, then she should of done it when it was appropriate; not when it's tied into her entire participation in demeaning another person.

True,

I respectfully disagree with your opinion that people would defend the actions of a man that behaved as Jackie has. Jackie in the instance that has started this outrage, was the first to start swearing. Never really appropriate for the "boss" to do. She then baited him with, if you keep bringing this up I will fire you. Again not really professional. I think most people in the heat of the moment would respond then go ahead and fire me. I disagree with Brian for stopping to the same level and swearing back at her though.

Just thought I would add my two cents to the equation

Oh for crying out loud. Why would Brian apologize to the people at Doug's event? He didn't pee on stage!! He tried (unsuccessfully) to get people to bid more money. Enough already. I don't need a study to tell me why I've reacted to watching someone else's behavior on tv. I don't like Jackie's unprofessionalism. Period. She's rude, condescending and extremely arrogant (at least in my opinion). I accept Brian's apology for his behavior. Why? Because he's humble enough to reflect on his own behavior. Jackie feels she does no wrong. One other thing I didn't like with Jackie is her telling Greg P. that she's "punishing" him with her client Deenie. WTF?? Who talks about their own clients like this? I hope Brian gets his own show, it'd be great to see him work with his clients and see the end results. He's better off out of Lie Sport. Good luck to him.

WE have to wash them previous to the cybernetic implants...... remember?
Weren't you paying attention during Borg Indoctrination Day?

And Borg cookies are boring! They only come in one flavor, can you bring Klingon cookies next time? I know they're a little spicy but......

Well, at least YOU are drinking the Kool aid and not asking others to do so. As far as cookies, I am glad you took my advice. I hope you enjoyed the banana as well.

Ah, here we go again. Well, at least there has been no bullying. So far.

PEGLAM - read up dipsh1t!

Hey Truereality,
Can I talk to you for a moment out in the hall? Thanks!
I hate for it to come to this..... and I don't want to come off as militant and all....
but I have to ask, Can I see some credentials?
I know you said you were a lesbian, so you must have gotten a card.
I just need to check the fine print. Because my Gay Card says nothing at all about preferential treatment.

Now if your card does in fact read: "The bearer of this document
is immune to the normal standards and/or laws of society due to their sexual identity".
I will humbly apologize to you and we can get back to the matter at hand.

Of course if you don't have a card, you won't have to leave,
but I will seriously start to question whether you are in fact a "lesbian".
And not a Right-Wing-Republican-PTL-Watching-Pat-Robertson-Loving-Plant (as you have accused so many others of being).
And that maybe your own personal agenda here is to make everyone
believe that all members of the LGBT community are hypocritical cry babies!

BTW-Just between us, where can I get one of those cards? Because I've been thinking about doing some pretty despicable things.... and I too want to be able to scream "you're just doing this because I'm gay" and then just get away without any repercussions and with complete immunity!
Does it look like one of those "Get Out of Jail Free" cards from monopoly?

Peeler is an ahole. He is SO NOT humble. He is a spoiled baby who ranted when he didn't get his own way. He is highly immature, acted like a freak at Dougs event. WHO does that at a friends event? No reason for that whacko behavior. Jackie is no angel, but let's not pretend Peeler is not an immature ass either. Good luck to him, for sure.

Are you being sardonic, or sarcastic? Or, both? Lesbians don't carry cards, they don't fit in our fanny packs.

Uh Oh! I think I have a stalker!

That's so romantic!

You are what? yes, I am the dragonslayer. Those of you that are going to bully others because they oppose your freakish views and your mob mentality will be dished out a nice cold plate of you are a dumbass. Here is your plate. Enjoy.

No, it's the postman. They come once a day. So, don't flatter yourself.

I just laughed so hard at your previous post that I spit my koolaid out all over my keyboard.... That was worth 10!

Acted like a freak? No he acted like a drunk. Unfortunately that night he was a man in pain, and had waaaayyyy too much to drink. Do I think it was appropriate behavior, no I do not. But he did apologize to us, the viewers, here on this board. Whether you choose to believe that it was a genuine apology or not is up to you.

By the way, if your card doesn't fit in your fanny pack, what are carrying in that thing? Or did you get one of the supersized game show check size cards???

I, er, We, 3 of 680, were thinking about cookies during Borg Indorctrination Day, we thought 1 of 680 or maybe 2 of 680 might be paying attention.

We hear that Romulan cookies are pretty good, not as spicy as Klingon cookies... and We will be sure to bring Our decloaker so that We can SEE what We are eating... Perhaps We need to Absorb a new Planet to get new flavored cookies or if We can locate Unit farmgirl, 4 of 680, we might rediscover flavor data lost with that Unit.

I was kidding about the fanny pack, sorry to joke over your head. He acted like a freakish drunk..does that make you happier. Semantics. He was a drunk lout. He never had to aplogize to "US". but, how nice that it makes you feel better. Thank you, I am glad that you are allowing me to choose as I believe, I sincerely appreciate that freedom. Now, go to sleep like a good little sheep.

Hey Peeler...just a quick question...at the Doug event...once things got heated with you and what's her name...did you try to confront her about what happened with Jamie? Just wondered if Bravo would allow that to air?

But MY Stalker is stalking everybody..... So....

I felt special for a moment.....

But if she has so much rage and hate pent up and has
no other outlet in her life to vent it than these boards, who am I to judge?

Better here than innocent drivers on the freeway...
or on her loved ones at home...
or anywhere else I guess...

Welcome Stalker, welcome..... all are welcome....

Well I guess I have gotten my welcome,

No your "joke" was not over my head. I was attempting to point out to you that I believe most of his behavior at the benefit was alcohol induced.

I also never said that the apology made me feel any better, or made up for his actions. But at least he acknowledged that he did something wrong.....

spartybrat the stalker comment wasn't in reference to you....... just that I was taught to never address my stalker directly- see the earlier posts - last nights are good.

Liam, I never thought that you were referring to me. I was also referring my post to "she who should not be named"

Its letter carrier. And if you have an afternoon express,they may just come twice!



did everyone enjoy rebeccas impression of jackie LOL

I figure that if I am being lumped in with the "rest of the sheep" I must be doing something right

Appropriate! !

And then there is the UPS man, er.. person!

well once MY Stalker has started stalking you....
I guess you can use the same moniker to discuss her....

I won't be jealous I swear... OK maybe a little jealous...

Thanks NiCi, I thought it fit too

MMM UPS MMMMM... I mean, has anyone seen my betrothed, because I need cash... I mean love!
I need some of his hunka hunka burning love... with the small visa logo on it.

I think UPS did it ALL right... Hunky, and dress them in Chocolate colored clothes! Who doesn't love hunks and chocolate?!! Put hunks in chocolate, even better!!!!

Just wanted to clarify, my post ended with "welcome... Stalker"
And yours began with "I guess I got my welcome"
So I was like no!!!!! Not you!

But do you think we "slayed" the dragon slayer?
Or like the hydra every time you cut off one of it's heads,
seven more grow in it's place?

the UPS person doesnt come to everyones house, every day!

Oh they'll be back, with seven more heads...maybe that's why they keep repeating themselves...the new head doesn't know what the old head said. Hmmmmm....

No, mores the pity, wouldn't it be nice if s/he did?!

Amen to that. Everything is better with chocolate.....

After last nights episode nothing changed my mind any. It was never specifically about Peeler.

Jackie Warner is still a horrible person.

Horrible to have an atmosphere of staff making fun of clients behind their backs. At a gym where people are vulnerable no less.

Horrible because if they had not been caught they wouldnt have been sorry any.

Horrible to pretend she had no idea who Jamie was when she's been known in fittness. Had to sign a release. And only uses that as an excuse to say she didnt know she was a cancer survivor.

Horrible to know cameras are rolling and still have the nerve to act like that as if it could be edited out if not for the escalated situation.

Horrible in handling a situation unprofesionally and used it as an excuse to fire someone she never liked. Had Peeler been training Gregs client, Jackie would have been on the client's side and fired Peeler over that.

And all the board trolls are equally horrible. Whether they are Jackie, some of the trainers or viewers that may somehow deluded themselves into thinking these people they see on their tvs are "their friends" enough to make sickening statements in their defense. Nama speaking for a dead person, to say Doug's friendship with Peeler wasnt real. Horrible. Dacia and the others for their equally insulting and condecending posts like they are getting anywhere. Horrible. Creating multiple accounts to post and support themselves and attack others when you can see the times they post dont leave much time to read their entire lengthy tirades and compose their replies unless they had it all sorted out ahead of time and clicked submit in different browsers. Horrible. Pretending this is an anti gay issue when workout and bravo always had a huge gay following and gay audience and there are plenty of gay websites and blogs full of equally disgusted gay people not too happy with Jackie Warner. But keep it up. It only reinforces why Jackie, this show and its few supporters are nothing but nasty irate sociopaths who have a hard time understanding wrong from right and only add fire to the obvious problem of bad behaviour that started all this while trying to cry the victim of a "homophobic mob mentality" they contrived in their heads to make themselves feel justified and right.

There's that WE again, lonely soul. Have you tried Match.com? You might ask for a "desperate discount" for seniors. Nope, can't cut off this Hydra's head, only grows back to tell you how very sad you are. Tsk tsk.

Thanks! Do you have a monitor cleaning cloth?
Mine is covered in Kool-Aid spray!

Aww, come on. Are you a board troll too, or just the opposers?

That's not "Kool aid spray " (clever) its drool. Wipe up and don't worry about it.

Nobody said UPS. Read again. Postman. Not necessarily UPS, ding dong (that is a reference, which one? is the UPS man ringing your bell, or did I just call you a name?)

I don't think that is a cure for loneliness. Remember, they leave.

SSHHH ..... did you hear that?

Oh, just the wind. Good, for a minute there
I thought I heard someone outside, creeping around in my bushes!
Now I'm afraid I will have to sleep with my curtains drawn

Yes, you are my outlet. I have SO much pent up rage. GRRRRRR......hey, don't you have someone to bully, or am I the only opposer here?? Uh oh...me scared. I need some Kool aid spray.

I am overwhelmed with Peeglams oh so pleasant contributions.