I know this is going to sound exaggerated.... but I felt attacked last night, (I mean I actually felt physically assaulted- I was so angry I was shaking). I guess it was just the level of hatred emanating from my computer screen...
Maybe I shouldn't sit so close (damn failing eyesight...), and it really made me wonder if they ever read any posts (other than just to gather ammunition for their own personal agendas).

You really held your own. I am still shocked at the viciousness of those posts. I can't help but wonder if some of the viciousness is due to fear of lost income from investments.

You were attacked. If they can't use logic, they will insult you into submission.

Huge big huggggie.

Thats exactly why. After gatorade pulled the plug, the viciousness started up and certain people joined. The noise was too loud.

Hard to believe a simple viewer would react the way they do unless they have something truly at $take. A loss of revenue. A loss of 15 minutes of fame perhaps.

So they play the homophobia card to manipulate people into thinking this is an anti gay campaign in an attempt to rally support and get sponsors back.

I get hung up for awhile and nothing changes. Dacia is posting long posts about people not being real gay people. The wedding plans seem to be continuing. Other people are still name calling, and are very very angry.

Oh I would tell someone where I got my nick, which is a joke, if they were not talking about BBQ-ing the triplets.

I know this is going to sound exaggerated.... but I felt attacked last night, (I mean I actually felt physically assaulted- I was so angry I was shaking). I guess it was just the level of hatred emanating from my computer screen... Maybe I shouldn't sit so close (damn failing eyesight...), and it really made me wonder if they ever read any posts (other than just to gather ammunition for their own personal agendas).

I know this is going to sound exaggerated.... but I felt attacked last night, (I mean I actually felt physically assaulted- I was so angry I was shaking). I guess it was just the level of hatred emanating from my computer screen... Maybe I shouldn't sit so close (damn failing eyesight...), and it really made me wonder if they ever read any posts (other than just to gather ammunition for their own personal agendas).

Hey Swiss! How did the swig of Jack help them bones last night or did you try it? Did you tell Oprah I said hi?

It seems as if one is not one of the "hated" or one of "Us" , then one becomes a-wash in the nothingness of cyberspace. Yes, I'm speaking of myself (and my posts)
-Gypsy in FL

Yikes, what exactly happened after I left? I am too lazy to read it all. I think a few of the people who post here and support Jackie are afraid they will loose their job if Jackie is sent down the hard road.

Sorry about the goat thing...just trying to fiqure out how to get Spike and Greg P. to the wedding reception. I have this smoker and they both like to grill...thus the goats. We have a pig pull every 4th of July, maybe we could do that instead. LOL! I was the one who asked about your name. Great name by the way.

Well now that Booglie's kids are safe..... I have a fantastic recipe for soy ginger ca...... (smacks himself in the face for almost making a feline culinary delicacy reference).... but I think it was on the Top Chef website...

Well Swiss, here it is in a nut shell. There are those in this world who have issues that are far beyond the help this small forum can offer, thus their blood boils when someone attempts to have a discussion that even remotely resembles a mature, informed, intellectual debate about things beyond their ability to comprehend or control. As such, anger fuels the very thoughts of everything they say and they begin to resort to innuendoes and end up making no sense in the end. It is kind of like listening to a double talker. They say A TON but in actuality, say nothing at all. They ask for answers and then "beat" the one who gave the "wrong" answer. It really is an interesting view into the psyche of people. Oh, and we have a cat that hates me. That pretty much sums it up. Welcome back!

Gypsy I have read your posts, I haven't "chatted you up personally" because I just assume it's an open forum and anyone who wants to jump in, can.
I apologize if you felt ignored, I guess sometimes we get caught up in our own little online chatter about inane topics just to pass the time & for giggles.
But anytime you want to "bend my ear". I'll gladly listen. You obviously know that you have just as much right to be here as any of us.
I just always assume when I cheer someone on unsolicited.... they may not always appreciate the association with me & my opinion. Hope this makes sense, rambling.........

The absolute final straw for me was when they made a Clay Aiken reference regarding me. Call me a racist, homophobic, self-hating, misogynistic, uneducated, under-employed, bible-thumper with no life and or friends. But Clay Aiken?
Seriously people, have you no standards of decency!

It seems as if one is not one of the "hated" or one of "Us" , then one becomes a-wash in the nothingness of cyberspace. Yes, I'm speaking of myself (and my posts)
-Gypsy in FL

I liked your show ideas. I want to be the new therapist for Work Out. I think I could add some fun to the mix. How is Florida? Fires gone? I palyed golf at Disney on year and came off the course looking like I had the measles. I have never been biten so much in my life. And what is up with those llittle black gnats that seem to be mating all the time? Thought my golf ball turned black.

If it makes you feel better you are not the only one pretty much left

out of the loop. For some reasons some people just don't get responded

to.

Kari Ana

There is a pattern of behavior going on here but of course this is not news to any of you.
Just notice however that this pattern of behavior is PROVOKING.

I swear that the missing clue as to why no one from Bravo or anyone using the name Warner claiming to be Jackie (and proved to be Jackie) has come here to address our outrage.
Just as Jackie PROVOKED a reaction out of Brian Peeler so she could justify firing him,
she is trying to PROVOKE a reaction from us that will get us all shut down here in this forum.
Of course we all know we have other recourse where they can't watch us,
but what is the point to that?
They need to be able to see that this outrage especially since it is so clear that this entire incident was provoked. Who do you think is next to be fired on the show? She is clearly provoking others. Many of you may not believe this is all part of a plan to get rid of Jackie's Warner's least favorites.
The thing is, the only way this all makes sense is if Jackie Warner is provoking us.
Think about it, even if this just happened organically with no form of plan to fire a few trainers through provocation how do we explain those hot new trainers?
There is only so much air time why add so many new people?
If we fall in love with the new guys we won't be so angry about the old trainers.
Well, they were wrong about us. It was bad enough losing Doug last season.
Now Peeler, and we have had hints of more trainers being fired. Oh yeah, we lost Zen
before the new season even began. So who is next to fall from this show? Maybe Rebecca?
We don't know. I hope not.

Kari Ana

I know this is going to sound exaggerated.... but I felt attacked last night, (I mean I actually felt physically assaulted- I was so angry I was shaking). I guess it was just the level of hatred emanating from my computer screen... Maybe I shouldn't sit so close (damn failing eyesight...), and it really made me wonder if they ever read any posts (other than just to gather ammunition for their own personal agendas).

Although I appreciate the offer (to bend your ear, as it were), I wasn't looking really to bend your ear, but I'm having one of those "High School" moments and I'm too old for that. It really does seem as though, (on this board, of late) if one is not "in the fight" or "in the IN group" (with the wedding planning etc.) One's reparte'(witty or otherwise) is INvisable.
That can feel quite ailienating. But since you said you've read my posts, what did you think about my "Fantasy Work/Out show" suggestions?

Gypsy in FL

Oh YEAH Babe, tell me about the new therapy course for the misfits, misenthropes and mis-assigned on Work Out!
Fires are bad in south FL , Orlando seems sort of unaffected at this time. It's hot, but we're about to get rain. Novemver and October are really pleasant times to visit Disney. Nice weather, few mosquitos and not as many crowds, gnats at a minimum.

Gypsy

Has anyone heard of the Crazy Ants that are taking over Houston? I hear the only thing they are good for is eating FIRE ANTS.

Hey there Gypsy, you are describing me. I feel that way sometimes too. But I never take anything personally, usually some "Jackie person" is out there waiting to jump on me for some statement I made. Tell me all my thoughts are anti-gay and I am evil. That cheers me up, that makes me laugh, because it is so far from the truth.

Well, first off each of the trainers would have to sign full disclosure forms. Then each of them would have to fill out a personality profile on another trainer. Rarely do we see ourselves clearly so it helps when someone else lets us "borrow" their eyes so we can see ourselves as others do. This ususally leads to lots of crying, then name calling, then 'well at least I don't do such and such' and hopefully if you have people who are willing to grow and mature, then you begin to deal with the real issues.

Has anyone heard of the Crazy Ants that are taking over Houston? I hear the only thing they are good for is eating FIRE ANTS.

Wow, that sounds like it could be very fruitful...or painful...depending. At least it sounds like it would be eye-opening for all participants. You would be a great counselor for the new show....You're hired....please sign this full-disclosure contract.....
-gypsy

It seems as if one is not one of the "hated" or one of "Us" , then one becomes a-wash in the nothingness of cyberspace. Yes, I'm speaking of myself (and my posts)
-Gypsy in FL

Gypsy in full disclosure, I usually seek out the people I know here..... and I said before we get caught up in our own little "whatevers"- and then someone comes in and starts spreading the seeds of division and I kinda lose track of who is aligned with who....
But I loved your "Once More with Feeling" reference awhile back! I've got a theory....
Listened to the sound track just yesterday....
and quite a few of my posts have landed like lead balloons.... George Michael & Fiona Apple anyone?..... crickets... crickets.... that must be why I sympathized so much with Peeler the other night.

I am really sorry that you feel this way. I am sure that no one meant to ignore you, or make you feel ignored. I went back and re-read your posts and they were familiar to me - I have read them all before.

I have not commented on the more recent ones as they have to do with what has happened on the recent episodes, which I have not watched as I am boycotting them (so felt I had nothing to add).

Forgive me for not responding to other of your posts - I have felt quite pressed by the increasingly agressive attacks occurring on the board and when those are not going on, I feel like I am just joking around with those I am most familar with trying to "recover" and prepare for the next attack. I also watch Top Chef and it was rather crazy over there last night and I have spent time today trying to get caught up on reading an obnoxious number of pages on that board too. (and will slip away at 10:00 to see SIUAD!) Anyway, I did not mean to ignore you and I hope you will accept my apology!

I did read your recent post on ideas for Work Out episodes - most of which I found quite clever and amusing - probably would have responded on any other day but after the attacks last night, was just too weary (sorry, my fault, no falut of yours or your post!)

Dear,
Dacia, Nama, Jack123, peglam et al

See guys, I don't know why it didn't sink in before but...
if left to our own devices, we talk about everything except for our outrage!
I'm on ADD overload just trying to keep up...
I'm just sorry that it took so long for it to sink in for you...

Hate to say I told you so..... just kidding, LOVE to say it.

Love ya, mean it.... you can sign me, Clay (harpy-on-duty)

PS Thanks again for keeping us focused. HA HA!

Is it wrong I that I thought Adam was totally hot? Even all soldier/demon/cyborg whatever thingy?
Also kinda had the hots for a demon on Angel....
I was going on and on about how cool he looked etc.
and my friends totally called me on it!
"You want to have sex with that big scary monster"... & of course I denied it... but I kinda did...

Is it wrong I that I thought Adam was totally hot? Even all soldier/demon/cyborg whatever thingy?
Also kinda had the hots for a demon on Angel....
I was going on and on about how cool he looked etc.
and my friends totally called me on it!
"You want to have sex with that big scary monster"... & of course I denied it... but I kinda did...

Is it wrong I that I thought Adam was totally hot? Even all soldier/demon/cyborg whatever thingy?
Also kinda had the hots for a demon on Angel....
I was going on and on about how cool he looked etc.
and my friends totally called me on it!
"You want to have sex with that big scary monster"... & of course I denied it... but I kinda did...

Does trojan make items in big scary monster size? I truly hope so, and that ky makes super strength items as well.