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mommakelly
Liam, thank you, I had not thought of that. I like how you make me think outside the box. I really do hope that they do not renew the show. Sadly I don't think I can not watch it. It's like driving by an accident, you don't want to look, but you do. I don't actually watch it in real time (my husband is really not into to it at all!) but I do watch the recorded version later. I have to agree with you about the editing, the execs are probably trying to make her look better. Kind of like when they had her go to Jonathan Antin (from Blow Out) to get her hair done that time. They were probably trying to show him in a better light.

This is fun, it's the first time I've ever joined a board or met people over the internet! Thanks for making me feel welcome!
mommakelly
Kariana, you may be right. So many of us like to see the good in people and want to believe that everyone is wonderful. It's hard when you put someone on a pedestal and then find out that they have "clay feet". I really didn't even like Brian Peeler (and still think he has a lot of issues to deal with) but see that he's just a "good ole boy" (we have a lot of them here in the buckle of the bible belt) that wants to believe that he can save the world. I honestly hope that he deals with his demons and comes back as an awesome trainer with a fun show to watch.
I really just want to see entertainment when I watch television, not this crazy drama that sucks me in! Work Out used to be fun, entertaining and even inspirational and now I feel like a fool for putting so much energy and faith in Jackie.

My two cents!
swiss74
We were all drawn in by the first season, on a whole it was inspirational for those doing exercises. The second season was not as nice as the first. Remember how Jackie trashed Rebecca in the restaurant. Jackie's behaviour in the second season turned downward and never recovered. The third season has been a "let me see how horrible I can be and how long people will take it." Will Work Out recover? Will Jackie recover? Who can tell? I think the damage is irrepairable and Work Out will never or Jackie will never retreive the loyality. What she has lost? She has lost a loyal fan base, a group of people that really liked the show and enjoyed all the things that went on. For myself, now I watch what I can stomach and change the channel when I start to get sick. angry.gif
Alexrb
QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 24, 2008 - 01:10 AM) *
I was sooo gonna spring it on THEM, but then decided not worth it...


Liam, I don't know you but D seems to like you a lot, but please for the love of God and all that is holy, DO NOT use the Clay picture. I don't think he is gay, I think he is a tranny. He was on one of my flights and he cries A LOT!!! He just needs to get whatever done, done.
Alexrb
QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 24, 2008 - 10:53 AM) *
Come on JC. Alex is the non-lesbian girlfriend, of the the non-lesbian DrB, who are just right wingers. who only want to destroy all gay people,jobs,enterprises, causes, and just send them all to hell.

(I just thought I would save the Horsemen of the Apocalypse the trouble of saying that. It is nice and quiet without them here, isn't it??? )

Thanks for letting me know who I am. I sometimes forget. D tries to tell me we aren't really gay but some of the things we do, I'm not so sure...LOL! laugh.gif
Alexrb
QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 24, 2008 - 11:18 AM) *
Oh I remember... DrB! That was hysterical!


I think this was in reference to me ph34r.gif , but that is such a lie. She is the one that announces the impending doom. Maybe true for me every once in a while but of my god...I've bought stock in the company.
Snagglepuss
Nama, You have taught me so much,
for instance I'm really learning to "read between the lines". Thanks Buddy! blush.gif

Here is what you said on May 18th.
QUOTE (Nama @ May 18, 2008 - 10:43 PM) *
Fact: No one outside of Jackie Warner, Lisa, the production crew (1 or 2 individuals) and Rich know what was said in the office.
Fact: The event involving Jackie Warner, Brian Peeler and Jamie Eason took place last October. All parties involved have had a significant amount of time to deal with the issue, address it and move on.

I thought they were under a "Confidentiality/Non-disclosure Agreement", but what do I know?

QUOTE
Fact: Bravo and the producers of Work Out were in no way obligated to show the footage of this event. It could have easily been edited out of the show. As with most reality programming, they edited the show in a way they deemed to be as entertaining and as controversial as possible.

So why show it at all? Looks to me like Bravo knew exactly what they were doing.....

And then here is your post 2 days later...

QUOTE (Nama @ May 20, 2008 - 07:47 PM) *
Brian was cast on the show. Jackie would not have hired him. Did it ever occur to you that she had to get "permission" to fire him?

Thanks again, Appreciate it!
Qwacker
QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 24, 2008 - 04:30 PM) *
Nama, You have taught me so much,
for instance I'm really learning to "read between the lines". Thanks Buddy! blush.gif

Here is what you said on May 18th.

I thought they were under a "Confidentiality/Non-disclosure Agreement", but what do I know?


So why show it at all? Looks to me like Bravo knew exactly what they were doing.....

And then here is your post 2 days later...


Thanks again, Appreciate it!



Liam...does Nama work for the show? Alex said after she read some of the post she thought some of these people did work for the show or maybe even Sky Sport. I'm suppose to be checking on the kids but I thought I would send this first. The gardens look great by the way. Japanese whatever bushes are perfect. (I think)
Snagglepuss
Dacia
On May 20th you wrote:
QUOTE (Dacia @ May 20, 2008 - 10:10 PM) *
To gay viewers, you're playing into the devil's hand. These are the same people who protest gay marriage and wanted Ellen off the air! You believe they're not anti-gay? Think again! It took decades to get Gay and Lesbians on television and now you're fighting to have them taken off? Be careful what you wish for!

And on May 21 you wrote:
QUOTE (Dacia @ May 21, 2008 - 11:01 PM) *
Many of us believe that if you really are part of the community, you would be more concerned with petitions concerning our equal rights, our right to marriage, adoption and fight against discrimination. Unfortunately, there are anti-gay movements. They exist and are often difficult to detect.

The anti -gay movement has become very difficult to track. It used to be easy. They would put it right out there but now it's much more subversive and their work much more covert. Their boards are not public so it becomes more and more difficult.
Maybe you haven't heard, but we have some other issues that actually effect our lives.


I would like to Say "Thank You!"
Because of what you wrote I have endeavored to be a "Better Gay" and fight discrimination wherever I see it.
I encourage you Dacia to join the rest of us in fighting FOX News
and the Right Wing Christian Fundumentalist groups they support.
Have you read what they say about our community?
There rhetoric is deplorable. Go to FOXNews.com and put "Homosexual Agenda" into their search engine.
I guarantee you will be shocked and disgusted by what you see!
I am making every LGBT Group aware that we should boycott everything and everyone who has anything to do with this organization. And you should do the same!

Thanks, again Dacia. I owe you one! wub.gif
clarakotka
QUOTE (NiCi @ May 23, 2008 - 09:35 PM) *
It may take a while for him to discover it, especially if he has never been exposed to it before. You may want to put it near him when you see him, or put it near a place you know he frequents so that you make sure he notices it. My friend's put it right near her cat and the cat started rolling in it right away, but her cat had been exposed ot nip before. Anyway, I hope it works for you. Thats why I prefer dogs over cats - I have met many mean cats in my day - those that attack or claw you for no reason, or those who just don't give a hoot about you unless they know you are allergic, then they want to be your best friend, pests! biggrin.gif If I have a pet, I want it to think I am the best thing since sliced bread, not that I am "the slave unit that puts out the food and can be used as a scratching post"!


My Daisy loves me. I guess I picked the right daughter!

QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 23, 2008 - 10:35 PM) *
I'm trying to pick a look for the wedding this... ?


Yes, to this one.

QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 23, 2008 - 10:38 PM) *
or do you think JC would like this?


NOOOOOOO!!!!

QUOTE (greenskates @ May 24, 2008 - 05:28 AM) *
JC, Liam-etc...can a straight chick come to the wedding to represent the open minded side?


I'l be there! Straight people are welcome. wub.gif

QUOTE (Alexrb @ May 24, 2008 - 07:40 AM) *
This is to whomever posted the crap on 22nd about my wife, Drb. Send me a private PM. I have something to say to you.

Alex


Hurrah!!!! Its Alex!!! Right on, babe, right on.
clarakotka
Has anyone tried the Crunchless Abs dvds?
Any success with it?
I bought the first one and I think (after a very short time) I'm noticing something good going on. Regular crunches hurt my back (being 35 can suck!) and don't really do much except make my underribs sore.
loree lee
Oh wow. Now I understand everything!! I am aware that people are acting as mediums for other "logical" head games, but you would think the limelight wouldn't impede people's ability to think for themselves. Do these people on the Work Out show have no moral values, or are their brains so fried from being out in the Skye Sport Roof sun so long that they cannot see the forest for the trees. I think that an MRI may be necessaryfor Jaqueline, because Bee, those aren't her shoes, and she didn't get them from her husband either. She borrowed them and they sure do not look comfortable, because I would not want to walk a mile much less a few feet in those shoes. Is this lady over 30, because the spite and jealousy and pride I am seeing portreyed by Jaquie after the Brian Whine fiasco is really the biggest load of kindergarten drama ever witnessed. And it is all caught on camera on Work Out show!! These trainers are either strategically placed to try to sabotage an open and honest guy (People do make mistakes, you know) names Brian to have everyone consent to not even treat him like a human being after Jackee's little nervous breakdown.
Brian may be a little annoying and he may be a bit of a Southern Gentleman unaware of the lesbian and gay lifestyle of the big bad L.A. city, but at least he talks openly with the entire staff trustingly, leading them on fun excursions and not suspecting H.R. black mamba of coming in and waving her anaconda whip around for all to run into a corner scared of. Little Miss tattle Tail has succeeded in showing her true colours, too, and it won;t be long before Brian finds another job in Texas somewhere far far away from the glitz and immorality going on in the Skye Sport Laboratory of experimental fat gene research.
Go work your magic on some other unsuspecting victims, rather than use some chubby folks who are vulnerable to propel yourself and your borrowed shoes forward. Blocking these messages is a sure sign that you are GUILTY and CONTROLLING, and you need another therapist who will tell you as it is, instead of kissing your ass, Jaquie. When I am looking down at you from Heaven with Doug and all the rest of us, I will try to remember that you justified yourself as your daddy's suicide Jackie's dad) so that we could all feel sorry for you instead of giving you what life really needs to dish out, which is a thick dose of REALITY.

After you stop blaming your mom and your suicidal dad for everything, I cannot wait until you look in the mirror and are able to watch yourself and all the people who have sacrificed just so that you could be Lesbian Power Chick unable to use her own power for any good except to feed some fatties a bunch of lettuce and nuts.
Qwacker
QUOTE (clarakotka @ May 24, 2008 - 05:06 PM) *
Has anyone tried the Crunchless Abs dvds?
Any success with it?
I bought the first one and I think (after a very short time) I'm noticing something good going on. Regular crunches hurt my back (being 35 can suck!) and don't really do much except make my underribs sore.


Hey Clara...thanks for the shout out to Alex. She got home this morning and got herself an account so she could verbally let Dacia know what she thought of her lovely little post.

I have no sympathy for you...35 WAAAA...but no, I have never tried the dvd. I try to avoid anything that I might suck at. The only ab work I do is trying to suck my gut in. LOL!!! No, I like the stand up bench where you put your arms on the pads and bring your knees up to your chest and also the ball. Ellen did it on her show the other day. Don't start out with it but once you get a good undercore of stable muscle then try the ball. Hugh results fairly quickly.
Jack123
QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 24, 2008 - 09:54 AM) *
So this is ALL about making money! Ahhh, well since you put it that way....
So tell me, do the Religious Right buy many Lesbian Trainer DVDs?
Is Jackie going to supply enough DVDs so that everyone at the next Anti-gay Rally gets one in their gift bag?

How stupid is that "Promotional Team" you mentioned above?
"Hey let's get those Religious Right Anti-Gay folks... that's a huge untapped market!" Brilliant!
WOW! You accused us of turning our back on Jackie.... well little girl, the next time you go looking for a "self-hating Gay/Lesbian (or Bi)" i suggest you start with your own bathroom mirror- you will find one!


Clay, you really think about me alot don't you? I'd say that's normal considering your namesake. tongue.gif

Fade in - up volume to max and quickly fade out- Kylie Minogue 'Can't Get You out of My Head'
Did I say you turned your back on Jackie? I don't remember saying you turned your back on Jackie. No, I definitely don't think you turned your back on Jackie. I think it's impossible to attack someone if you turn your back on them. I think you turned your back on your brothers and sisters.

Insert dance break and theme music: 'Chains of Love'

Oh who doesn't hate Fox News? I'm just not going to get my panties in a wad about a gay or lesbian appearing on a show or allowing themselves to be quoted in an article. Maybe more gays should flock to Fox News and smother them in gayness?

Cue Anastacia 'Who's Gonna Stop the Rain'
I'd like to take back my snarky comments and harpies of hate accusations to anyone who was willing to stand up against the harshly judgmental person-thing discussing ITS view on AIDS. Those generalized suggestions and assumptions that we're all a bunch of oversexed pervs who can't control ourselves and hit the stalls whenever the opportunity presents itself are the exact things many of us thought were being hidden under a false claim of being upset about "Jackie Warner" only. I'm not even going to touch Ms. IT's suggestion that anyone who has contracted the virus must be a completely irresponsible moron.

Cue Anastacia 'You'll Never be Alone'
Yes I know, repeating the same artist lacks creativity.

Many of us are battling for the same cause. We stand strong when being attacked and lend a hand to our struggling brothers or sisters in need. Jackie Warner may not appear to be in need to you but I think she is. I
think she's in need of a second chance. I think she's in need of the benefit of doubt before harsh judgment and I think she's in need of being allowed the right to choose her own way, mistakes and all.
Applause
Fade to Black


Lights up
Fade in 'Chains of Love' to Maximum Volume
Balloons, Steamers and Glitter fall
Dance Out
BooglieOoglie
Great GooglieBoogliessss Jack has found the color font button. Excuse me I have to go find my sunglasses.


Hi all!
Qwacker
QUOTE (loree lee @ May 24, 2008 - 05:14 PM) *
When I am looking down at you from Heaven with Doug and all the rest of us, I will try to remember that you justified yourself as your daddy's suicide Jackie's dad) so that we could all feel sorry for you instead of giving you what life really needs to dish out, which is a thick dose of REALITY.
I have no idea what you are saying here. Loree, don't use someones parents death to make a point. Jackie isn't responsible for her dad's suicide . She may be narcictic, power hungry, and inappropriate beyond all measure but lay off the dad rhetoric.
After you stop blaming your mom and your suicidal dad for everything, I cannot wait until you look in the mirror and are able to watch yourself and all the people who have sacrificed just so that you could be Lesbian Power Chick unable to use her own power for any good except to feed some fatties a bunch of lettuce and nuts. Make your point...I again, have no clue what you are trying to articulate. I am angry at Jackie but we have had enough childish names thrown around to last us all a life time. Try again so I can understand what you want to say.

And who is Bee?
Jack123
QUOTE (loree lee @ May 24, 2008 - 03:14 PM) *
Oh wow. Now I understand everything!! I am aware that people are acting as mediums for other "logical" head games, but you would think the limelight wouldn't impede people's ability to think for themselves. Do these people on the Work Out show have no moral values, or are their brains so fried from being out in the Skye Sport Roof sun so long that they cannot see the forest for the trees. I think that an MRI may be necessaryfor Jaqueline, because Bee, those aren't her shoes, and she didn't get them from her husband either. She borrowed them and they sure do not look comfortable, because I would not want to walk a mile much less a few feet in those shoes. Is this lady over 30, because the spite and jealousy and pride I am seeing portreyed by Jaquie after the Brian Whine fiasco is really the biggest load of kindergarten drama ever witnessed. And it is all caught on camera on Work Out show!! These trainers are either strategically placed to try to sabotage an open and honest guy (People do make mistakes, you know) names Brian to have everyone consent to not even treat him like a human being after Jackee's little nervous breakdown.
Brian may be a little annoying and he may be a bit of a Southern Gentleman unaware of the lesbian and gay lifestyle of the big bad L.A. city, but at least he talks openly with the entire staff trustingly, leading them on fun excursions and not suspecting H.R. black mamba of coming in and waving her anaconda whip around for all to run into a corner scared of. Little Miss tattle Tail has succeeded in showing her true colours, too, and it won;t be long before Brian finds another job in Texas somewhere far far away from the glitz and immorality going on in the Skye Sport Laboratory of experimental fat gene research.
Go work your magic on some other unsuspecting victims, rather than use some chubby folks who are vulnerable to propel yourself and your borrowed shoes forward. Blocking these messages is a sure sign that you are GUILTY and CONTROLLING, and you need another therapist who will tell you as it is, instead of kissing your ass, Jaquie. When I am looking down at you from Heaven with Doug and all the rest of us, I will try to remember that you justified yourself as your daddy's suicide Jackie's dad) so that we could all feel sorry for you instead of giving you what life really needs to dish out, which is a thick dose of REALITY.

After you stop blaming your mom and your suicidal dad for everything, I cannot wait until you look in the mirror and are able to watch yourself and all the people who have sacrificed just so that you could be Lesbian Power Chick unable to use her own power for any good except to feed some fatties a bunch of lettuce and nuts.


Now you are a harpy of hate for sure! Harpy Harpy Harpy! I could maybe accept your opinion of Jackie if you removed your need to cast judgement on someone you don't know AND if you didn't insist on defending a mildly retarded violent knuckle dragger while attacking Jackie. Brian better than Jackie? Only to a bigot. Most intelligent people here are upset with Jackie but accept that Brian the 10th Grade drop out, whose definition of honesty got lost somewhere in the 5th Grade, is a complete and total boob.

Honey, you won't be looking DOWN on anyone! You'll be burnin' and lookin UP!
wink.gif
BooglieOoglie
I am also upset that Jackie Warner would go on Fox News to promote herself.

Anyone who would not understand why it is strange for a "Lesbian Icon" to go to promote herself on Fox News, need only to go over to Media Matters and put in Fox News and gay, or lesbian, or GLAD, or anything like that.

I am not surprised that Jackie Warner sold out like that for the slight possibility of more money, it does spell out where her loyalties are.

I am still more disgusted by the other things I have mentioned in other posts.
Jack123
QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 24, 2008 - 03:26 PM) *
Great GooglieBoogliessss Jack has found the color font button. Excuse me I have to go find my sunglasses.


Hi all!


It's the flag of our nation BoogieWoog! I'll assume thta you have one flying off the back of that scooter of yours and that it looks wonderful when you're going down hill at a high speed. Beep beep!
I have decided that Lorree Lee must be Brian's latest Stripper girlfriend. I'm thinking maybe Kiasmama can rehabilitate her. unsure.gif
Qwacker
QUOTE (Jack123 @ May 24, 2008 - 05:41 PM) *
It's the flag of our nation BoogieWoog! I'll assume thta you have one flying off the back of that scooter of yours and that it looks wonderful when you're going down hill at a high speed. Beep beep!
I have decided that Lorree Lee must be Brian's latest Stripper girlfriend. I'm thinking maybe Kiasmama can rehabilitate her. unsure.gif


I was out watering the garden when Alex screamed for me to get in here and read this. Jack, why do you feel the need to be like Jackie and mock and belittle those who are handicapped or those who have suffered serious health issues? Do you get joy and satisfaction out of doing this? Do you know how come Booglie has to ride a scooter? Do you know how long and hard rehab has been for her? Please, I want to know, do you feel better? Do you feel proud? Are you the 'man' now because you can use type words to try and belittle other? You make me sad Jack. I now have to put you in the catergory of Dacia, Nama, peglam, Loralee and Jackie.

Go pick on someone else. Booglie can kick your ass with her one good leg even with having no arms.
Snagglepuss
QUOTE (Jack123 @ May 24, 2008 - 05:41 PM) *
It's the flag of our nation BoogieWoog! I'll assume thta you have one flying off the back of that scooter of yours and that it looks wonderful when you're going down hill at a high speed. Beep beep!
I have decided that Lorree Lee must be Brian's latest Stripper girlfriend. I'm thinking maybe Kiasmama can rehabilitate her. unsure.gif


Oh more hate & name calling...
Jack by your colorful post and the amount of time that must have taken I'd say we have a "mutual admiration" thing going on.

But Jack123, I forgot to ask.... How was the Race? Was it Amazing?
Alexrb
QUOTE (Jack123 @ May 24, 2008 - 05:41 PM) *
It's the flag of our nation BoogieWoog! I'll assume thta you have one flying off the back of that scooter of yours and that it looks wonderful when you're going down hill at a high speed. Beep beep!
I have decided that Lorree Lee must be Brian's latest Stripper girlfriend. I'm thinking maybe Kiasmama can rehabilitate her. unsure.gif

Yeah, what DrB just said. You really are a very sad little man. D's the one for trying to see the good in others. I just see what's put out there and call it what it is. You must really hate yourself since you feel the need to belittle those less fortunate than others. Maybe you and that Dorka person can date or something.
BooglieOoglie
QUOTE (Jack123 @ May 24, 2008 - 06:41 PM) *
It's the flag of our nation BoogieWoog! I'll assume thta you have one flying off the back of that scooter of yours and that it looks wonderful when you're going down hill at a high speed. Beep beep!
I have decided that Lorree Lee must be Brian's latest Stripper girlfriend. I'm thinking maybe Kiasmama can rehabilitate her. unsure.gif

Jack123 I really look forward to you showing up.
You have almost singlehanded helped push "the cause" forward, by showing up just at the right times to stir people up again.
I for one would like to thank you for your self-sacrificing devotion, and your help, without which, I am sure quite a few people would have lost interest.
BooglieOoglie
Hey, I got back!

Baby got back!!!!
Jack123
QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 24, 2008 - 02:58 PM) *
Dacia
On May 20th you wrote:

And on May 21 you wrote:


I would like to Say "Thank You!"
Because of what you wrote I have endeavored to be a "Better Gay" and fight discrimination wherever I see it.
I encourage you Dacia to join the rest of us in fighting FOX News
and the Right Wing Christian Fundumentalist groups they support.
Have you read what they say about our community?
There rhetoric is deplorable. Go to FOXNews.com and put "Homosexual Agenda" into their search engine.
I guarantee you will be shocked and disgusted by what you see!
I am making every LGBT Group aware that we should boycott everything and everyone who has anything to do with this organization. And you should do the same!

Thanks, again Dacia. I owe you one! wub.gif


Ouch! Look who's being the snarkbitch now! I think we know there are some Republican Gays who watch Fox. I'm willing to bet that Senator Toe Tappin' Craig still watches Fox News. I also willing to bet that Dacia and True are well versed in the politics of Fox.

Clay dear, why aren't you all over Shepard Smith? What's worse? A couple seconds of nothing or dedicating your life to the bigoted outlet which includes attempting to hide your well-known homosexuality to a world of homophobes watching you speak EVERYDAY on Fox News? Clay, you really should be able to speak to this better than most.

DrB and Alexrb, yep uh-huh very sweet. Have you heard of IM? AIM? Texting??? Anything ringing a bell here? Just asking.
Qwacker
QUOTE (Jack123 @ May 24, 2008 - 05:41 PM) *
It's the flag of our nation


Just like you chickenturd to write and run. I have a question? Does Jackie pay you enough? And also, how much does one make who attacks others for the sake of "one up's manship" and then runs away? I invite you back to stay for awhile and have a honest to goodness debate. No name calling, no using suedo-fact that can't be proven, no using "well I heard such and such". Just plain, good ol' fashion deabte. You game? My guess is no but I'll wait for your reply.
Jack123
QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 24, 2008 - 04:01 PM) *
Oh more hate & name calling...
Jack by your colorful post and the amount of time that must have taken I'd say we have a "mutual admiration" thing going on.

But Jack123, I forgot to ask.... How was the Race? Was it Amazing?



WHO am I hating on? Boogie? When I think of Boogie, I only think sweet things! Boogie, I am sorry. My scooter reference was not meant to be demeaning. My gran has a scooter. (please do not take that wrong either. I'm not saying you're a gran) I love her. No no no. Boogie, I was not making fun.

Snarky toward Lorree Lee and Kiasmama? Yep. Sure. Absolutely.

Wait. Clay, how are you and Alexrb not belittling me? It's okay to call me self-hating? Just asking.
Snagglepuss
QUOTE (Alexrb @ May 24, 2008 - 03:55 PM) *
Liam, I don't know you but Dena seems to like you a lot, but please for the love of God and all that is holy, DO NOT use the Clay picture. I don't think he is gay, I think he is a tranny. He was on one of my flights and he cries A LOT!!! He just needs to get whatever done, done.


Don't worry Alex that was purely for giggles... tongue.gif
Jack123
QUOTE (DrB @ May 24, 2008 - 04:14 PM) *
Just like you chickenturd to write and run. I have a question? Does Jackie pay you enough? And also, how much does one make who attacks others for the sake of "one up's manship" and then runs away? I invite you back to stay for awhile and have a honest to goodness debate. No name calling, no using suedo-fact that can't be proven, no using "well I heard such and such". Just plain, good ol' fashion deabte. You game? My guess is no but I'll wait for your reply.


Tryin to make nice and look at you gettin all ugly on me. No name calling? Okay, I'll take Chickenturd as a term of endearment then. I wear that badge with honor but didn't feel a need to discuss it here.

I took back what I said before (to some of you). Did you read my first post today? Probably not.
Always stereotyping and making generalized judgments against the Chickenturds. You should really try to get to know one before formulating your opinion. We have a heart underneath our snarky sarcasm but I guess you think you know ALL Chickenturds. Sure, there are some bad Chickenturds but they're just tryin' to find their way. I don't work for Jackie. Chickenturds are taught to stand tall in the face adversity. That's all I'm doing.

FYI: Chickenturds do not run away from anything. That's a myth that has been promoted by the anti-CT movement and people like YOU! We're just very busy defending the downtrodden and our super fast metabolisms make it necessary to eat more often than others. So I have to go now but it has NOTHING to do with me being a chickenturd!!
Alexrb
QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 24, 2008 - 06:20 PM) *
Don't worry Alex that was purely for giggles... tongue.gif


Oh good. We have to go take the kids to CiCi's for pizza. Sorry if I messed up the board by posting to D. It was the only way to get a hold of her without her phone. I don't know what AIM is. Used to be a toothpaste brand years ago.
I think D is ready to rumble with jackbenimble. She won debate at the state level when she was in highschool. I don't envy him. I never win a arguement at home.
Snagglepuss
QUOTE (Jack123 @ May 24, 2008 - 06:15 PM) *
WHO am I hating on? Boogie? When I think of Boogie, I only think sweet things! Boogie, I am sorry. My scooter reference was not meant to be demeaning. My gran has a scooter. (please do not take that wrong either. I'm not saying you're a gran) I love her. No no no. Boogie, I was not making fun.

Snarky toward Lorree Lee and Kiasmama? Yep. Sure. Absolutely.

Wait. Clay, how are you and Alexrb not belittling me? It's okay to call me self-hating? Just asking.


If my comments were offensive to you, then I really truly mean't them- you have done nothing but come onto these boards and belittle people.

I was referring to the fact you have aligned yourself with a Boss, Mentor, "Friend" etc. who has sold her soul to the Right Wing Zealots for some extra cash. I hope she is a generous gift giver or at the very least pays really well.

And I would wash some of that money before I rolled around in it if I were you. It's covered in the blood of your brothers and sisters in the "community".
BooglieOoglie
Liam,
If I forgot to tell you. I really like the Snagglepuss! Cute, Pink, inquisitive, helpful, suits you.

Ok, everyone can continue the fight.
Snagglepuss
And remember guys try to keep it clean and don't let the HATE piss you off too much!

They are attempting to provoke a reaction that will get these boards shut down!
Qwacker
QUOTE (Jack123 @ May 24, 2008 - 06:27 PM) *
Tryin to make nice and look at you gettin all ugly on me. No name calling? Okay, I'll take Chickenturd as a term of endearment then. I wear that badge with honor but didn't feel a need to discuss it here.

I took back what I said before (to some of yo). Did you read my first post today? Probably not.
Always stereotyping and making generalized judgments against the Chickenturds. You should really try to get to know one before formulating your opinion. We have a heart underneath our snarky sarcasm but I guess you think you know ALL Chickenturds. Sure, there are some bad Chickenturds but they're just tryin' to find their way. I don't work for Jackie. Chickenturds are taught to stand tall in the face adversity. That's all I'm doing.

No, Jack, I did not read your first post today. I usually get to the 2nd or 3rd line and then roll my eyes and think to myself, there he goes again. If you don't want name calling then don't do it. Liam is not Clay. I was remiss in calling you a chickenturd. I wanted to call you something else but my niece can read. But my apologies for hurting your sensibilities and your feelings. If you had read Al's earliest post you would have seen the reason for the postings today. I was at the Colonial without my phone and it is long distance to Dallas from Ft. Worth. Therefore when I had a chance, I used the computer to check this site and saw her message. Sorry if that bothered you for some reason.

Now...we are off to CiCi's pizza.
KariAna
I have come to the conclusion to give these negative people up

to poetic justice and hoping for the best. In a perfect world not

only will it happen, but they will also be splashed on the Television

News for all of us to see the poetic justice happening to them.

Kari Ana


QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 24, 2008 - 06:29 PM) *
If my comments were offensive to you, then I really truly mean't them- you have done nothing but come onto these boards and belittle people.

I was referring to the fact you have aligned yourself with a Boss, Mentor, "Friend" etc. who has sold her soul to the Right Wing Zealots for some extra cash. I hope she is a generous gift giver or at the very least pays really well.

And I would wash some of that money before I rolled around in it if I were you. It's covered in the blood of your brothers and sisters in the "community".
Snagglepuss
QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 24, 2008 - 06:38 PM) *
Liam,
If I forgot to tell you. I really like the Snagglepuss! Cute, Pink, inquisitive, helpful, suits you.

Ok, everyone can continue the fight.

Thanks! He was my first gay role model growing up wink.gif
Snagglepuss
QUOTE (KariAna @ May 24, 2008 - 06:39 PM) *
I have come to the conclusion to give these negative people up

to poetic justice and hoping for the best. In a perfect world not

only will it happen, but they will also be splashed on the Television

News for all of us to see the poetic justice happening to them.

Kari Ana

I totally agree.
Some people have very public careers and this information could potentially
have a negative effect on their future earnings.
If the way they behaved here (on these boards) was exposed it could be detrimental to their career aspirations (as well as their current product endorsements).

There truly is no such thing as 100% anonymity on the web. Someone somewhere can always find out who you are....
iluvspongebob
Ok, so I've been reading the anti-fox news comments for a few days & truly debated as to whether I'd post. I am a regular viewer of fox news (& cnn & msnbc) & I haven't seen the anchors or commentators speak negatively about the GLT community (I have seen the opposite). For me, when I see the crazies who come on & speak their hate, it gives me an opportunity to speak to my kids & family friends etc & show them that these people do exist & how to stand up to them & fight for everyone's rights. I never see these wackos on other stations & just to see their hatred, really opens up dialogue. I've had many conversations with my kids about these people & it's helped them when they're confronted with this type of crap in their schools, jobs etc. Now, I see my kids stand up for people who are teased or made fun of or called names. Please don't get angry, I really wanted to open the discussion so I could see where everyone is coming from.
mommakelly
QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 24, 2008 - 06:40 PM) *
Thanks! He was my first gay role model growing up wink.gif



I loved him, he was so classy!!
mommakelly
QUOTE (DrB @ May 24, 2008 - 06:39 PM) *
No, Jack, I did not read your first post today. I usually get to the 2nd or 3rd line and then roll my eyes and think to myself, there he goes again. If you don't want name calling then don't do it. Liam is not Clay. I was remiss in calling you a chickenturd. I wanted to call you something else but my niece can read. But my apologies for hurting your sensibilities and your feelings. If you had read Al's earliest post you would have seen the reason for the postings today. I was at the Colonial without my phone and it is long distance to Dallas from Ft. Worth. Therefore when I had a chance, I used the computer to check this site and saw her message. Sorry if that bothered you for some reason.

Now...we are off to CiCi's pizza.


I always liked their pizza much more than Chuck E Cheese!
Jack123
QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 24, 2008 - 04:29 PM) *
If my comments were offensive to you, then I really truly mean't them- you have done nothing but come onto these boards and belittle people.

I was referring to the fact you have aligned yourself with a Boss, Mentor, "Friend" etc. who has sold her soul to the Right Wing Zealots for some extra cash. I hope she is a generous gift giver or at the very least pays really well.

And I would wash some of that money before I rolled around in it if I were you. It's covered in the blood of your brothers and sisters in the "community".


Mmmmhmmmm. Still haven't answered my question about Shepard Smith. Gay Fox News Anchor??? Heard of him? Not defending Fox dear just looking for an explanation regarding the double standards. Help me understand Obi-Wan.

Haven't been mean to anyone here today except those who were clearly full of disdain and judgment about more than just Jackie.

I see how you are. Ignoring my first post today, instantly attacking me before trying to see who I AM! Well Clay, I'm rubber and you're glue! tongue.gif

You all are startin' to look more and more like Jackie! That is, giant corn cobs stuck way up your bums. I always thought Jackie had a giant stick stuck up there and that she took herself way too seriously but it never meant I wanted to boycott the show or launch an attack on her. If that was the case, I'd be very busy writing sponsors about all the snotty, stick-in butt people on TV. As would you!

Now I must go but check your own snark before attacking this believer.
BooglieOoglie
QUOTE (Alexrb @ May 24, 2008 - 07:28 PM) *
Oh good. We have to go take the kids to CiCi's for pizza. Sorry if I messed up the board by posting to D. It was the only way to get a hold of her without her phone. I don't know what AIM is. Used to be a toothpaste brand years ago.

Alex, I for one thought it was cute, endearing, and quite informative of your private life. laugh.gif
At that point, Jack123 was trying to find anything to attack with. He/she thought he could use that to insult you with. First, (I am going to tell you what to do here) don't you dare let him/her make you feel bad about talking to your wife on here! It made the board a bit more human(cough, lesbian family, cough), and being human is something some people need to be reminded of. I am sure your lesser half there will teach you how to read your private messages, and how to send them. Second, you keep posting on here, as much as you want to. I am looking forward to all those embarrassing stories about DrB.
KariAna
FACT-Fox News license is for Entertainment television.

Follow the money to see which organizations are supported

by Fox News before dismissing the veracity of the claims

made here. Claims without hate, with information verified.

Kari Ana



QUOTE (missd88 @ May 24, 2008 - 06:43 PM) *
Ok, so I've been reading the anti-fox news comments for a few days & truly debated as to whether I'd post. I am a regular viewer of fox news (& cnn & msnbc) & I haven't seen the anchors or commentators speak negatively about the GLT community (I have seen the opposite). For me, when I see the crazies who come on & speak their hate, it gives me an opportunity to speak to my kids & family friends etc & show them that these people do exist & how to stand up to them & fight for everyone's rights. I never see these wackos on other stations & just to see their hatred, really opens up dialogue. I've had many conversations with my kids about these people & it's helped them when they're confronted with this type of crap in their schools, jobs etc. Now, I see my kids stand up for people who are teased or made fun of or called names. Please don't get angry, I really wanted to open the discussion so I could see where everyone is coming from.
mommakelly
I used to watch Fox Morning News, but it became such a circus. It seems like they just hang out and talk about their families and not the news.
Anyway, I really don't know about them being Anti Gay, I guess I've not had to be vigiliant about stuff like that.
I do know about mean, rude people and it just proves my point every time Jack or Dacia come on here. They sit on their high horse and mock everyone that has negative feelings and comments about Jackie. And then they get off on a completely different rant to change the focus of this board. Jackie was rude and she lied. That's why we come here to discuss the show and say what we think.
Snagglepuss
QUOTE (missd88 @ May 24, 2008 - 06:43 PM) *
Ok, so I've been reading the anti-fox news comments for a few days & truly debated as to whether I'd post. I am a regular viewer of fox news (& cnn & msnbc) & I haven't seen the anchors or commentators speak negatively about the GLT community (I have seen the opposite). For me, when I see the crazies who come on & speak their hate, it gives me an opportunity to speak to my kids & family friends etc & show them that these people do exist & how to stand up to them & fight for everyone's rights. I never see these wackos on other stations & just to see their hatred, really opens up dialogue. I've had many conversations with my kids about these people & it's helped them when they're confronted with this type of crap in their schools, jobs etc. Now, I see my kids stand up for people who are teased or made fun of or called names. Please don't get angry, I really wanted to open the discussion so I could see where everyone is coming from.

Did you go to the website and search for Homosexual Agenda?
If you did you will see all of the PRO-Hate propaganda- if you don't see it....
I can't convince you. Many are written as "religious freedom" articles. Most of them read like this "As a Christian I don't hate Homosexuals.... I just think they shouldn't teach our children or talk about it in public or have Special Privileges passed to protect them. But as a good Christian I am only doing what my Bible tells me to..."
Jack123
QUOTE (DrB @ May 24, 2008 - 04:39 PM) *
No, Jack, I did not read your first post today. I usually get to the 2nd or 3rd line and then roll my eyes and think to myself, there he goes again. If you don't want name calling then don't do it. Liam is not Clay. I was remiss in calling you a chickenturd. I wanted to call you something else but my niece can read. But my apologies for hurting your sensibilities and your feelings. If you had read Al's earliest post you would have seen the reason for the postings today. I was at the Colonial without my phone and it is long distance to Dallas from Ft. Worth. Therefore when I had a chance, I used the computer to check this site and saw her message. Sorry if that bothered you for some reason.

Now...we are off to CiCi's pizza.



I was only teasing you.


huff, sniff, pout

I KNOW Liam is not really CLAY! Of course he's not. If he was Clay, he'd be too busy cruising sites better suited to his needs. Clay wouldn't waste his time here talking to women!

So sad.

I open my hands with a tiny dove perched on a delicate olive branch only to have you crush its wings and break the stick!
KariAna
As if it is special to be allowed to have a job or get married to the

person you are in love with. How dare anyone say this is not

acceptable. It makes me feel so angry that anyone supports these

guys then life hits me in the nose because I like some of the shows

on FOX. It is all Rupert Murdoch. How does this man have some of

the most progressive shows of the entire shows available to the viewing

public and yet be so narrow minded and right wing type causes? It

is amazing to me to not just see me being unture to myself but this

man who owns so much television produce these shows with every type

of character on the planet yet he is so right wing it is appalling. Smoke

screen I suppose. How does one not watch shows like House? I am

blanking on some of the others. It is embarrassing enough that I only

don't watch FOX NEWS. I watch FOX. television.

Kari Ana

Kari Ana


QUOTE (LiaminLongBeach @ May 24, 2008 - 06:56 PM) *
Did you go to the website and search for Homosexual Agenda?
If you did you will see all of the PRO-Hate propaganda- if you don't see it....
I can't convince you. Many are written as "religious freedom" articles. Most of them read like this "As a Christian I don't hate Homosexuals.... I just think they shouldn't teach our children or talk about it in public or have Special Privileges passed to protect them. But as a good Christian I am only doing what my Bible tells me to..."
iluvspongebob
Yes, I know about Fox's license & where the money goes on all of the news channels. For the record, I didn't dismiss anyone's claims, just stated what my experience was. That's why I opened the discussion, not to anger anyone. Sorry for thinking this was an open board. I've seen a lot of open & honest discussion & a lot of hate here. I was hoping to avoid the latter. Sorry for the post. I enjoy open debate & I like to hear all people's opinions & thought I could see & appreciate everyone's viewpoints here. I won't make that mistake again. Sorry to anger anyone here.
Snagglepuss
QUOTE (Jack123 @ May 24, 2008 - 06:47 PM) *
Mmmmhmmmm. Still haven't answered my question about Shepard Smith. Gay Fox News Anchor??? Heard of him? Not defending Fox dear just looking for an explanation regarding the double standards. Help me understand Obi-Wan.

Haven't been mean to anyone here today except those who were clearly full of disdain and judgment about more than just Jackie.

I see how you are. Ignoring my first post today, instantly attacking me before trying to see who I AM! Well Clay, I'm rubber and you're glue! tongue.gif

You all are startin' to look more and more like Jackie! That is, giant corn cobs stuck way up your bums. I always thought Jackie had a giant stick stuck up there and that she took herself way too seriously but it never meant I wanted to boycott the show or launch an attack on her. If that was the case, I'd be very busy writing sponsors about all the snotty, stick-in butt people on TV. As would you!

Now I must go but check your own snark before attacking this believer.

Thank you for pointing out Shepard Smith to me..... but my plate is kinda full right now. I'm very focused on Jackie Warner.
But feel free to go and start a boycott about any and all other gays on FOX News.
You have my full support and I will join your cause as soon as I am finished here.
Thanks again!
KariAna
This is an open forum. I simply replied to what was said. It isn't

negative to give information.

Kari Ana

QUOTE (missd88 @ May 24, 2008 - 07:01 PM) *
Yes, I know about Fox's license & where the money goes on all of the news channels. For the record, I didn't dismiss anyone's claims, just stated what my experience was. That's why I opened the discussion, not to anger anyone. Sorry for thinking this was an open board. I've seen a lot of open & honest discussion & a lot of hate here. I was hoping to avoid the latter. Sorry for the post. I enjoy open debate & I like to hear all people's opinions & thought I could see & appreciate everyone's viewpoints here. I won't make that mistake again. Sorry to anger anyone here.
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