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JCpalmsprings
QUOTE (NiCi @ May 28, 2008 - 06:05 PM) *
So glad you enjoyed the show JC!
You were missed here for sure!
Where is Cher barbie's place of honor now that she is home?


On top of the Bookcase with her latest program guide and ticket stub...
BooglieOoglie
QUOTE (chefdaddy123 @ May 28, 2008 - 05:12 PM) *
I think i would want plitt. I am a bodybuilder, and I like to try to hit heavy weights. He seems to be the best fit for me. plus, he seems really cool.



Good answer chefdaddy123.
I like Greg. He seems to be a really decent person. He is everywhere on tv and so many magazine fronts. He does quite a decent interview also. I like him for being his own person, and being able to support a group.

How long have you been a bodybuilder? Quite unusual for a chef.
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 28, 2008 - 07:15 PM) *
Good answer chefdaddy123.
I like Greg. He seems to be a really decent person. He is everywhere on tv and so many magazine fronts. He does quite a decent interview also. I like him for being his own person, and being able to support a group.

How long have you been a bodybuilder? Quite unusual for a chef.


oh! I wish I were a chef! I am the chef for the family! My wife hates to cook. I have been BB for 8 years. Not professionally, just lifting and building...heck, if I were a chef though...!! I love the show top chef, which is why I chose the moniker.
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 28, 2008 - 07:09 PM) *
I think most people fell in love with Doug.

I understand, one of my gay friends Todd, said that Jesse needs to be trained but not a trainer. He is too flaming to be a good trainer.
Being a lesbian, I have no idea, but I have heard that before. As I said before, I do not understand how he could graduate from Le Cordon Bleu, and give that up. Every chef or foodie I know, that is a passion in their blood.
It is sad that will all the loyality that he follows Jackie around with, that he will never even get close to the loyality that Jackie feels for all the female employees, even Rebecca, just because he is a guy. sad.gif


Jesse actually is a chef! He graduated from culinary school!
BooglieOoglie
QUOTE (chefdaddy123 @ May 28, 2008 - 07:18 PM) *
oh! I wish I were a chef! I am the chef for the family! My wife hates to cook. I have been BB for 8 years. Not professionally, just lifting and building...heck, if I were a chef though...!! I love the show top chef, which is why I chose the moniker.


I was wondering if you had an opinion about going to a wonderful chef's school like Le Cordon Bleu, and giving it up for anything?????
Oh, what is your favorite dish????
Alexrb
QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 28, 2008 - 05:43 PM) *
Hi,
Welcome to the boards! You will not get hate messages from me. I can see someone wanting Jackie. I like honest opinions without any hate.

Oh I really like your nick! smile.gif In a way we are all addicts.



I, too, welcome you to the boards, Addict!!! TV is the new crack for our society. We do welcome your opinion and look forward to respectful, honest dialogue.

I, too, would like to have had Jackie midway through last season but seeing her disrespect, in my opinion, her relationship and her position, I could not in good conscience work out with her. Remember the first season when she was so cozy with the client in the desert? I felt really uncomfortable but kept thinking maybe I was being too old fashion and it really didn't mean anything. I don't know what I think now... Anyway...welcome.
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 28, 2008 - 07:22 PM) *
I was wondering if you had an opinion about going to a wonderful chef's school like Le Cordon Bleu, and giving it up for anything?????
Oh, what is your favorite dish????


I know!! That is so funny. I have NO idea WHY anyone would do that. Strange, for sure! My favorite dish is Chicken Tetrazini. I love it and I love making it. I also love eggplant parmesan (homemade sauce, of course!) What is yours? I wonder what Jesse's is!
Alexrb
QUOTE (fgnelson @ May 28, 2008 - 05:38 PM) *
i'm gonna go way out on a limb here...DrB help me with this.....remember unity comes from understanding....as a straight, married mom...I have often wondered what I would do and how I would react if one of my children were born gay....I think I would feel heartbroken (stay with me here)because I know how vicious society can and will be when you don't fit the "norm". I did not not watch the episode last night, but I can imagine that a mother would feel (Cher) the need to shield her child from hurt. Again, I am looking for education here....... wub.gif



Every story is different. My mom is heart broken because she believes I am going to hell and taking Alex with me. She has a parent, my Granddad, who is gay and tried to be out while in the Navy during WWII. But the chaplain he talked to told him not to ever tell anyone else what he felt and to marry the first woman he thought he might could be with for the rest of his life. Thus he married my Grandma. They both were sad for a very long time... It is hard in this world but I believe that we make our own way. If you had a child that was gay, I would hope that you would love and support your child and stand up for them whenever your voice might be needed.
JCpalmsprings
I wonder if Jesse was beat-up in cooking school, or did his flalling arms with knifes scare everyone???
I agree, "he needs a trainer and an acting coach to help him butch it up"....
Reality TV Addict
QUOTE (Alexrb @ May 28, 2008 - 06:25 PM) *
I, too, welcome you to the boards, Addict!!! TV is the new crack for our society. We do welcome your opinion and look forward to respectful, honest dialogue.

I, too, would like to have had Jackie midway through last season but seeing her disrespect, in my opinion, her relationship and her position, I could not in good conscience work out with her. Remember the first season when she was so cozy with the client in the desert? I felt really uncomfortable but kept thinking maybe I was being too old fashion and it really didn't mean anything. I don't know what I think now... Anyway...welcome.

thanx didn't mean to offend...
just edited it- again
JCpalmsprings
Jesse likes Tube Steak! All he can Eat (a big gay buffet)....
QUOTE (chefdaddy123 @ May 28, 2008 - 06:31 PM) *
I know!! That is so funny. I have NO idea WHY anyone would do that. Strange, for sure! My favorite dish is Chicken Tetrazini. I love it and I love making it. I also love eggplant parmesan (homemade sauce, of course!) What is yours? I wonder what Jesse's is!
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 28, 2008 - 07:32 PM) *
I wonder if Jesse was beat-up in cooking school, or did his flalling arms with knifes scare everyone???
I agrre he needs a trainer and an acting coach to help him butch it up....

He was probably smart and bargained "I will cook you up the BESTEST meal ever if you don't touch my pretty face". I am straight..but, he does have a pretty face!
Alexrb
QUOTE (chefdaddy123 @ May 28, 2008 - 06:06 PM) *
Alexrb:No problems at all, let's start over! wub.gif
Thank you...



Chefdaddy123...no hard feelings here...I just have had to fight FOREVER to get others to let me be OK with ME being gay and then to have those that say they are one of my fellow soldiers and bash me is almost mind blowing. It was something I wasn't expecting. But for us, no hard feelings. Still, why do you think Lisa was lying instead of Jackie? And what do you think of the other questions I have?
NiCi
QUOTE (Gypsyohara @ May 28, 2008 - 07:10 PM) *
unsure.gif OFF TOPIC!!
Has anyone seen Kari Anna?

Gypsy in FL


Not since this weekend. I hope she is OK!

And don't feel like you have to say "off topic" Gypsy, if you (or anyone else) reads the other boards and threads you can easily see that off topic conversations happen all the time! I post on multiple boards and it is the norm rather than the exception, even when there is a specific "off topic" thread!
Reality TV Addict
QUOTE (chefdaddy123 @ May 28, 2008 - 06:35 PM) *
He was probably smart and bargained "I will cook you up the BESTEST meal ever if you don't touch my pretty face". I am straight..but, he does have a pretty face!

But every now and then a PYT catches my eye too.
Anyone else here watch that Tila Tequila dating show?
Edited so as not to offend sad.gif btw people lot less thinskinned on the TC boards- sorry if that offends someone too
JCpalmsprings
Since we are on Season 2 Reunion! I am not sure there is a Topic... I believe its whatever you want to talk about... laugh.gif tongue.gif wink.gif rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (NiCi @ May 28, 2008 - 06:42 PM) *
Not since this weekend. I hope she is OK!

And don't feel like you have to say "off topic" Gypsy, if you (or anyone else) reads the other boards and threads you can easily see that off topic conversations happen all the time! I post on multiple boards and it is the norm rather than the exception, even when there is a specific "off topic" thread!
NiCi
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 28, 2008 - 07:34 PM) *
Jesse likes Tube Steak! All he can Eat (a big gay buffet)....


Oh, JC, I didn't realize that you were on the TC board for the tube steak discussion, somehow that was what was being discussed when I first started posting on there blush.gif - what a riot! You crack me up!!! biggrin.gif
JCpalmsprings
PYT,,,, Are you channeling Michael Jackson???

Hope you are not lying to your wife or putting your family at risk???


QUOTE (Reality TV Addict @ May 28, 2008 - 06:45 PM) *
as you can prob. guess i'm kinda on the DL
straight in the streets and bi in the sheets- every now and than a PYT catches my eye too.
JCpalmsprings
I sometimes just lurk way back in the Pantry... wink.gif

QUOTE (NiCi @ May 28, 2008 - 06:48 PM) *
Oh, JC, I didn't realize that you were on the TC board for the tube steak discussion, somehow that was what was being discussed when I first started posting on there blush.gif - what a riot! You crack me up!!! biggrin.gif
Reality TV Addict
move along nothing to see here....
BooglieOoglie
QUOTE (chefdaddy123 @ May 28, 2008 - 07:31 PM) *
I know!! That is so funny. I have NO idea WHY anyone would do that. Strange, for sure! My favorite dish is Chicken Tetrazini. I love it and I love making it. I also love eggplant parmesan (homemade sauce, of course!) What is yours? I wonder what Jesse's is!

I am quite fond of Steak Diane. I know it is not trendy now, but I think it is classic, and I love it. Salad's, salad's and more salads. I have a really nice leaf lettuce garden.
From what I have seen of Jesse, I am sure it is elegant. He seems quite sensitive, and I am not saying that because he is gay. His clothes, behavior, and the way he likes to observe. I am sure whatever it is, it has very fresh ingredients, well made, and not over-cooked. He would probably go crazy in my garden, and my herb garden.
JCpalmsprings
NICI

If I ever go missing you will know where to find me! I will be on the second shelf behind the Sugar (powdered and brown). I cant go back in the closet....
fg
QUOTE (Alexrb @ May 28, 2008 - 07:31 PM) *
Every story is different. My mom is heart broken because she believes I am going to hell and taking Alex with me. She has a parent, my Granddad, who is gay and tried to be out while in the Navy during WWII. But the chaplain he talked to told him not to ever tell anyone else what he felt and to marry the first woman he thought he might could be with for the rest of his life. Thus he married my Grandma. They both were sad for a very long time... It is hard in this world but I believe that we make our own way. If you had a child that was gay, I would hope that you would love and support your child and stand up for them whenever your voice might be needed.


DrB...that goes without saying...my very early posts tell the story of my best friend since 5th grade who happens to be a wonderful gay man. I, yes, that's right, me, was beaten up for protecting him from teasing when we were little. So my point is, since we have this "chance" encounter with so many of us from so many walks of life, why not open an honest discussion of what we do not understand about each other? I'm just sayin....might go along way toward acceptance and rolleyes.gif understanding of each other.
Reality TV Addict
hey I probably sound stupid, somebody know how to do spellcheck here?
my responses are rushed
(edited because oops did I say that... wink.gif
BooglieOoglie
QUOTE (Reality TV Addict @ May 28, 2008 - 08:02 PM) *
hey I prob sound stupid, some body know how to do spell check here?

my responses are rushed an can't be bothered to correct each 1

any body?

Hello my new little friend.(fake foreign accent here)

yes when you type a message, just check up in the second line and you will see a check mark. It will prompt you to download a program. Don't be afraid of it, and then you can spell check all your posts.

tongue.gif
Reality TV Addict
QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 28, 2008 - 07:10 PM) *
Hello my new little friend.(fake foreign accent here)

yes when you type a message, just check up in the second line and you will see a check mark. It will prompt you to download a program. Don't be afraid of it, and then you can spell check all your posts.

tongue.gif

ahh thanx

I do not want to sound like a jerk... that JC guy sent me a message that I was insensitive because I said -----.... " no offense bro! Settle down!
I thought you could tell I was joking
So not everybody can be out, ok? I didn't expect to get yelled at and so many PMs -I deleted it ok? Guess I'm used to chatting with the scifi geeks at AICN not as judgmental and you are allowed to swear!
yeesh!

aahhh this is better with the spell checker!
Alexrb
QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 28, 2008 - 07:10 PM) *
Hello my new little friend.(fake foreign accent here)

yes when you type a message, just check up in the second line and you will see a check mark. It will prompt you to download a program. Don't be afraid of it, and then you can spell check all your posts.

tongue.gif


If you have a google tool bar you can spell check with that without down loading another thing onto your computer.
BooglieOoglie
QUOTE (Reality TV Addict @ May 28, 2008 - 07:54 PM) *
I aint married. got a girl but.. what she don't know...


I serious hope this is a He-man joke. There are a lot of women on here(who would be highly offended), that might think you were serious, instead of er, how to put this, just showing your manhood.
I have a cousin that is always saying he is fooling around on his wife, but we all know he is as faithful as a preacher. I have a gay friend(who I will not name) who thinks it is his job to sleep with as many men as possible, but he is very honest with them about it. I don't care what people do in private, but putting people in danger by hiding stuff, is never cool.
Alexrb
Chefdaddy123...you still haven't answered my questions about the show. What do you think? Why do you think Lisa (is that REALLY Greg with dreds sister or was he kidding) is lying or is Jackie and why? More questions but we'll do one at a time.
NiCi
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 28, 2008 - 07:59 PM) *
NICI

If I ever go missing you will know where to find me! I will be on the second shelf behind the Sugar (powdered and brown). I cant go back in the closet....


I will come looking for you, never fear! And munch on some of that sugar to keep your strength up till I get there!
Alexrb
QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 28, 2008 - 07:24 PM) *
I serious hope this is a He-man joke. There are a lot of women on here(who would be highly offended), that might think you were serious, instead of er, how to put this, just showing your manhood.
I have a cousin that is always saying he is fooling around on his wife, but we all know he is as faithful as a preacher. I have a gay friend(who I will not name) who thinks it is his job to sleep with as many men as possible, but he is very honest with them about it. I don't care what people do in private, but putting people in danger by hiding stuff, is never cool.


What does PYT mean?
Reality TV Addict
QUOTE (Alexrb @ May 28, 2008 - 07:23 PM) *
If you have a google tool bar you can spell check with that without down loading another thing onto your computer.

thanx
guess i learned somethin new smile.gif

New here and I post on couple other blogs AICN etc. but I do like reality tv so...

I just thought -that is I cant be out so thought-see my earlier post yeesh!

thanx for spell check guess i shoulda paid more attention in school wink.gif
And now I will mind my Ps&Qs or whateva
NiCi
QUOTE (fgnelson @ May 28, 2008 - 08:02 PM) *
DrB...that goes without saying...my very early posts tell the story of my best friend since 5th grade who happens to be a wonderful gay man. I, yes, that's right, me, was beaten up for protecting him from teasing when we were little. So my point is, since we have this "chance" encounter with so many of us from so many walks of life, why not open an honest discussion of what we do not understand about each other? I'm just sayin....might go along way toward acceptance and rolleyes.gif understanding of each other.


FG, you are wonderful!!!! wub.gif
Alexrb
QUOTE (NiCi @ May 28, 2008 - 07:27 PM) *
I will come looking for you, never fear! And munch on some of that sugar to keep your strength up till I get there!



JC...were you ever in the closet? All I found when I was in there was an old tampon and two mis-matched shoes...where were you? Did you even tell Cher I asked about her?
NiCi
QUOTE (Alexrb @ May 28, 2008 - 08:28 PM) *
What does PYT mean?


Pretty Young Thing, if I am not mistaken.
BooglieOoglie
QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 28, 2008 - 08:24 PM) *
I serious hope this is a He-man joke. There are a lot of women on here(who would be highly offended), that might think you were serious, instead of er, how to put this, just showing your manhood.
I have a cousin that is always saying he is fooling around on his wife, but we all know he is as faithful as a preacher. I have a gay friend(who I will not name) who thinks it is his job to sleep with as many men as possible, but he is very honest with them about it. I don't care what people do in private, but putting people in danger by hiding stuff, is never cool.

Ok I thought so, I will withdraw this comment, kinda.
Reality TV Addict
sorry bout that
Kiasmama
QUOTE (Gypsyohara @ May 28, 2008 - 04:44 PM) *
Something ON TOPIC--Sort of...
For those of us have seen last night's episode, I'm just chatting up and offering my own warped perspective.
I was sort of STUNNED ...and then...sort of not blush.gif about Jackie Warner picking up her mother at the airport and then "springing it on her mother" that Briana's mother and sister were coming to stay as well.
Part of me was thinking "What kind of person does this kind of thing to their own mother." But the answer was there all the time.... it does seem kind of consistent with Jw's behaviour (definately in this season, and probably inklings in other seasons).
JW said that her mother has issues with her being gay and seems to attribute all of her mother's rediscence to that mind-set. However, during the inserts where JW's mother was talking by herself, she said she didn't know Briana and was concerned for Jackie because she just came out of a difficult relationship. Although I realize that Jackie's mother could have an issue with JW being gay AND be concerned about her getting into a live-in relationship so quickly. It seemed to me as though JW's mother is making an effort at refocusing and trying to express her concern for her daughter in an acceptable manner.
For someone seeking "understanding" from her mother, I thought JW's reaction to her mother's lack of social interaction on the first night of her stay was--well lacking in understanding.
Mom said she had a terrible headache, and she had this "family gathering" thing sprung on her, and then she has to endure her daughters censure that she "needs to be social"....hmmfff....
Have more, but will put it in another post so this doesn't become the LONG LINGERING POST!

Gypsy in FL

I was actually very impressed with the way her mother handled everything. My mom doesn't like that I'm gay. I used to think she would rather me be a homeless crack [expletive deleted] with three kids....at least I'd be straight. I don't get it, but....

Anyway, I give jackies mom a hand for visiting and being willing to engage in the relationship. I think jackie is asking a lot of her. She seems to want the relationship to be something it's not. It is the way it is. Both sides have to give a little and I think jackie's mom has given.

It's a tough situation though. I actually feel for jackie in that sense.
Alexrb
QUOTE (Kiasmama @ May 28, 2008 - 07:48 PM) *
I was actually very impressed with the way her mother handled everything. My mom doesn't like that I'm gay. I used to think she would rather me be a homeless crack [expletive deleted] with three kids....at least I'd be straight. I don't get it, but....

Anyway, I give jackies mom a hand for visiting and being willing to engage in the relationship. I think jackie is asking a lot of her. She seems to want the relationship to be something it's not. It is the way it is. Both sides have to give a little and I think jackie's mom has given.

It's a tough situation though. I actually feel for jackie in that sense.


Let me just say...I was WRONG in how I treated my mom. I didn't tell her stuff so that I didn't have to deal with her. Integrity on my part now is tell her whatever and letting her deal with it however she choses to. Sometimes that is in a way I like and most times it is in a way I don't. She did not come to mine and Alex's renewal ceremony in March and I cried for a few days because I had hoped she would just be happy for us but she is where she is and I have to let it go. We have to let people be where they are and keep hoping they will change or at least bend.
Kiasmama
QUOTE (BooglieOoglie @ May 28, 2008 - 05:56 PM) *
Hello Kiasmama,
I would like to welcome you to the has had stuff slung at them from Jack123 club. What Jack123 doesn't seem to understand trying to insult someone about something they have no reason to be ashamed of, only hurts the accuser.

I for one am thankful that you are doing this research. I was also appalled at the "sugar" tear that Jackie Warner is on. In another post on another workout board, which I will post below, I was wondering if things have changed since I was told this.
"I agree sugar is one major enemy and easy to abuse, but she totally left out empty carbs, which is the main problem. I hear her discussing how much sugar but never mentions the glycemic index of a food. A food with a high glycemic value will act just like pure sugar, and is just as dangerous for your body. If you tell someone to cut out sugar, they will substitute with high glycemic foods, exactly like a smoker cutting back to lower nicotine cigarettes will just inhale deeper and longer, getting the same nicotine from the cig, without even knowing it.
The best advice is quite simple, watch your carbs, all of them. Try not to get above 45-65 carbs per meal(harder than you might think), keep your fiber intake above 35 grams, and keep your water/liquid intake up.
White bread is high on the glycemic index where as whole wheat is lower. Here is a nice free website if you want to check on how quickly foods break down.
http://www.glycemicindex.com/
Best advice, go have an honest talk to your doctor, who can hook you up with a dietitian/nutritionist who knows what they are talking about(everyone should see one, once, just like you want to know what octane gas for your car). What I said is a suggestion, but you need what works for you. You have one body, don't just trust sound bites from someone who is not an expert on a subject."


There is some good info there. That is part of the problem. Jackie says sugar as a broad thing. You can't look at it that way. You also have to figure in your metabolic rates (which a dietician can help you with) and refer to glycemic index as you've stated. It's not just a simple "sugar is the devil" thing.

My main area of research is natural rewards...which is very interesting. You can't say drugs are more addicting, or sugar is more addicting, becasue as you've inferred, everyone is different. Just because we are all human, doesn't mean our bodies work the same way.

So why is one person a sugar addict and one isn't? It does have to do with brain chemistry, but it's not simply not eating sugar and breaking the addiction. It's all about the payoff. If you get more of a payoff from doing exercise than eating a candy bar....you will do the exercise. If you get more of a payoff from doing cocaine than eating a candy bar...you'll do the coke.

But what is that payoff and how do we rank it mentally? That's the million dollar question. There are some very interesting things going on with brain plasticity (teaching and old dog new tricks). It has to do more with how you think about the candy bar, than the candy bar itself. Breaking any addicition, whether food, drugs, whatever takes a change in thinking and 8 times out of 10 that change can't be made without some outside cognitive therapy and support.

I'm getting too long winded...lmao!
BooglieOoglie
QUOTE (Kiasmama @ May 28, 2008 - 08:48 PM) *
I was actually very impressed with the way her mother handled everything. My mom doesn't like that I'm gay. I used to think she would rather me be a homeless crack [expletive deleted] with three kids....at least I'd be straight. I don't get it, but....

Anyway, I give jackies mom a hand for visiting and being willing to engage in the relationship. I think jackie is asking a lot of her. She seems to want the relationship to be something it's not. It is the way it is. Both sides have to give a little and I think jackie's mom has given.

It's a tough situation though. I actually feel for jackie in that sense.

To begin with, my Mother had a hard time with it also. She was worried about me being different, pain, heartache, and if it would be ok. She finally got it, and that it was not a choice. Still (for me , in my life, and how I think) would never have put my Mother in that situation. Shoving her into a situation with strangers and a new girlfriend. How is that going to ease her fears for her daughter? It is only going to put more distance and distrust between them.
Still, it is Jackie's life, and that is how she choses to deal with her mother, and their relationship. I feel for both of them. Sometimes the hardest thing is to sit down and just talk. Honestly talk, about love, life desires, etc. Right now I can say my Mother is my best friend. We got there through trust and talking. We all make mistakes and we should learn from them. I think most people never ever, actually sit down and talk about how they feel about things, and each other. They just assume everything. How wrong is that?
Alexrb
QUOTE (Reality TV Addict @ May 28, 2008 - 07:28 PM) *
thanx
guess i learned somethin new smile.gif

new here and I post on couple other blogs AICN etc. but I do like reality tv so...

just that it is I cant be out so thought i could admit that hear and well
I guess i shoulda just stuck to admitting liking one sex
thought it would ok here at bravo-to say that- i watch it and my buds laugh at me. but whateva

thanx for spell check guess i shoulda paid more attention in school wink.gif



OK...call me an idiot...I don't know what AICN means...Somebody help me!!!
BooglieOoglie
QUOTE (Kiasmama @ May 28, 2008 - 09:04 PM) *
There is some good info there. That is part of the problem. Jackie says sugar as a broad thing. You can't look at it that way. You also have to figure in your metabolic rates (which a dietician can help you with) and refer to glycemic index as you've stated. It's not just a simple "sugar is the devil" thing.

My main area of research is natural rewards...which is very interesting. You can't say drugs are more addicting, or sugar is more addicting, becasue as you've inferred, everyone is different. Just because we are all human, doesn't mean our bodies work the same way.

So why is one person a sugar addict and one isn't? It does have to do with brain chemistry, but it's not simply not eating sugar and breaking the addiction. It's all about the payoff. If you get more of a payoff from doing exercise than eating a candy bar....you will do the exercise. If you get more of a payoff from doing cocaine than eating a candy bar...you'll do the coke.

But what is that payoff and how do we rank it mentally? That's the million dollar question. There are some very interesting things going on with brain plasticity (teaching and old dog new tricks). It has to do more with how you think about the candy bar, than the candy bar itself. Breaking any addicition, whether food, drugs, whatever takes a change in thinking and 8 times out of 10 that change can't be made without some outside cognitive therapy and support.

I'm getting too long winded...lmao!


Kiasmama thank you so much, for your insight.
I believe that if you want a candy bar, or a puddin pop, that it is ok if you work it in with your "diet" and plan for it(Not too much, too much of anything, even water is bad for you). That way you don't feel like you are not being deprived, and you still enjoy things you want. That way your diet will work, but that is how I get by, and still feel great about watching what I eat.
Gypsyohara
QUOTE (Kiasmama @ May 28, 2008 - 08:48 PM) *
I was actually very impressed with the way her mother handled everything. My mom doesn't like that I'm gay. I used to think she would rather me be a homeless crack [expletive deleted] with three kids....at least I'd be straight. I don't get it, but....

Anyway, I give jackies mom a hand for visiting and being willing to engage in the relationship. I think jackie is asking a lot of her. She seems to want the relationship to be something it's not. It is the way it is. Both sides have to give a little and I think jackie's mom has given.

It's a tough situation though. I actually feel for jackie in that sense.

Wow...Kiasmama, thank you for sharing a very real part of your life. It helps me to see things from your perspective.

Gypsy in FL
Gypsyohara
QUOTE (Alexrb @ May 28, 2008 - 08:55 PM) *
Let me just say...I was WRONG in how I treated my mom. I didn't tell her stuff so that I didn't have to deal with her. Integrity on my part now is tell her whatever and letting her deal with it however she choses to. Sometimes that is in a way I like and most times it is in a way I don't. She did not come to mine and Alex's renewal ceremony in March and I cried for a few days because I had hoped she would just be happy for us but she is where she is and I have to let it go. We have to let people be where they are and keep hoping they will change or at least bend.


Alexrb,
Reading this makes me think (feel?) that you are learning some very hard and painful lessons associated with your pursuit and experience of being loved in your life. You are most courageous to face those lessons and deal with yourself in an honest and forthright manner.
Gypsy in FL
Kiasmama
So anyway....WHY was jackie looking thru Brianna's cell phone? (previews for next week)
Reality TV Addict
To all I offended truly sorry, I didn't know these boards were just one big lovefest- guess I might try back later after reading a bit more about the general tenure/mood here- thought I could be real- but you are all of you right- you are not my "buds" and I'm not in high school so.... I got it ok! If I post here anymore- I'll try and treat people like they are intelligent and not "talk down to anyone". jeesh I thought everybody used cuz an wuz- now I know...
I tried erasing all my posts. This board won't allow it so i guess it stands...
BooglieOoglie
QUOTE (Jack123 @ May 28, 2008 - 12:06 PM) *
You must be trying to rationalize your poor eating habits. Why am I not surprised. A woman who claims to be a lesbian and then spews hatred about those with AIDS is a sad case in every way.

Anyway here you go you grown woman living with your mother seeking message boards for friendship, this article is old but you can do your own research harpy. Here's ONE article from the Society of Neuroscience. Can you read? Maybe you should write them letters? You have all day don't you?

Jack123, when I see your nick, I know you will refocus and energize people. I really want to thank you for your devotion, and how much you have encouraged people to write letters, and make extra efforts.
You were the sole encouragement for people to write SoyJoy and informing them of the slip up in their appearance of still supporting Workout. (They were really nice in their response to me, and of the other responses my friends have received.)
I believe we owe you a huge debt, and I do want to thank you again. Keep it up, and I will see if we can get together and collect the money so you can get one of the trainers for a session. You are earning it! Have a very good day, and I look forward to seeing you again. Hopefully soon!
clarakotka
QUOTE (NiCi @ May 28, 2008 - 05:32 PM) *
Pretty Young Thing, if I am not mistaken.



Talking about me when I'm not here??? tongue.gif
clarakotka
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