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fg
QUOTE (PanOnAHarley @ May 30, 2008 - 09:56 PM) *
Unfortunately there are too many people in this world, who think of ALL gays, as being "just like Jackie when she is at her worst"...

With people on this board sharing their opinions, their lives, their struggles, their personalities, their laughter, etc...this board has become a powerful means of proving how all gays are not like her.

I personally am thrilled to see others post here about their lives, whether it be the struggles and prejudice they face for being gay, for hardships due to physical handicaps or illnesses, for saying hi to their partner, for telling of taking care of their mother or for light hearted things such as talking about their goat-cat/cat-goat or handing out cookies ..
Those are just a few examples of what makes this board such a great board and helps others see "whether gay or straight", we all have alot in common...

Maybe one persons story on here can touch the "common ground" of a bigot and change that bigots attitude towards gays. Or just being able to witness the love between two gay people as Dr B and Alex have shared with us could do wonders to show gay bashers, that love is love regardless..... Whether straight or gay, we all want the same things from love...such as companionship, happiness, joy, freedom to express it and acceptance of loving who we want to...

Being straight I welcome any help educating other straights into accepting gays. It is not an easy task to change a bigot, but this board has the potential to help tremendously.

To me, it would be an insult to be stereo-typed as...."just like her"....
Ms. Warner putting herself in the public eye in such a negative light, and not holding herself accountable for the bad publicity, is the very reason countless people. whether straight or gay, will not stop talking about it...So instead of bashing those who are still talking about it, I am in total agreement to continue to call out , the one who failed to talk about it....Jackie herself.

Having ran my own business for 20 years, I will never keep my voice quiet to her indifference to "gossiping about her clients", regardless if they had cancer or not, it is totally unacceptable.. Yeah, we have all stuck our foot in our mouths before, but a persons true character is shown when they make a choice to either remove their foot from their mouth using accountability or if they cram the foot down even further , by ignorance and indifference.

Since I am cancer victim myself, I want to remind Ms. Warner the very subject of cancer she disrespected (and could have used to her benefit instead), might just be the very thing that becomes her downfall... For cancer, is not a bigot. ...Only people are.


Thanks Pan! I agree that this (for the most part) has been a positive blend of folks from all walks of life rolleyes.gif
Fallzone
QUOTE (PanOnAHarley @ May 30, 2008 - 09:56 PM) *
To me, it would be an insult to be stereo-typed as...."just like her"....
Ms. Warner putting herself in the public eye in such a negative light, and not holding herself accountable for the bad publicity, is the very reason countless people. whether straight or gay, will not stop talking about it...So instead of bashing those who are still talking about it, I am in total agreement to continue to call out , the one who failed to talk about it....Jackie herself.


Your entire post was right on target, but I particularly liked this paragraph.
Larceny
Very beautifully put. I wish I could have vocalized it near as well as you have. Thank you.


QUOTE (PanOnAHarley @ May 30, 2008 - 09:56 PM) *
Unfortunately there are too many people in this world, who think of ALL gays, as being "just like Jackie when she is at her worst"...

With people on this board sharing their opinions, their lives, their struggles, their personalities, their laughter, etc...this board has become a powerful means of proving how all gays are not like her.

I personally am thrilled to see others post here about their lives, whether it be the struggles and prejudice they face for being gay, for hardships due to physical handicaps or illnesses, for saying hi to their partner, for telling of taking care of their mother or for light hearted things such as talking about their goat-cat/cat-goat or handing out cookies ..
Those are just a few examples of what makes this board such a great board and helps others see "whether gay or straight", we all have alot in common...

Maybe one persons story on here can touch the "common ground" of a bigot and change that bigots attitude towards gays. Or just being able to witness the love between two gay people as Dr B and Alex have shared with us could do wonders to show gay bashers, that love is love regardless..... Whether straight or gay, we all want the same things from love...such as companionship, happiness, joy, freedom to express it and acceptance of loving who we want to...

Being straight I welcome any help educating other straights into accepting gays. It is not an easy task to change a bigot, but this board has the potential to help tremendously.

To me, it would be an insult to be stereo-typed as...."just like her"....
Ms. Warner putting herself in the public eye in such a negative light, and not holding herself accountable for the bad publicity, is the very reason countless people. whether straight or gay, will not stop talking about it...So instead of bashing those who are still talking about it, I am in total agreement to continue to call out , the one who failed to talk about it....Jackie herself.

Having ran my own business for 20 years, I will never keep my voice quiet to her indifference to "gossiping about her clients", regardless if they had cancer or not, it is totally unacceptable.. Yeah, we have all stuck our foot in our mouths before, but a persons true character is shown when they make a choice to either remove their foot from their mouth using accountability or if they cram the foot down even further , by ignorance and indifference.

Since I am cancer victim myself, I want to remind Ms. Warner the very subject of cancer she disrespected (and could have used to her benefit instead), might just be the very thing that becomes her downfall... For cancer, is not a bigot. ...Only people are.
ILoveGoldenRetrievers
QUOTE (PanOnAHarley @ May 30, 2008 - 09:56 PM) *
Unfortunately there are too many people in this world, who think of ALL gays, as being "just like Jackie when she is at her worst"...

With people on this board sharing their opinions, their lives, their struggles, their personalities, their laughter, etc...this board has become a powerful means of proving how all gays are not like her.

I personally am thrilled to see others post here about their lives, whether it be the struggles and prejudice they face for being gay, for hardships due to physical handicaps or illnesses, for saying hi to their partner, for telling of taking care of their mother or for light hearted things such as talking about their goat-cat/cat-goat or handing out cookies ..
Those are just a few examples of what makes this board such a great board and helps others see "whether gay or straight", we all have alot in common...

Maybe one persons story on here can touch the "common ground" of a bigot and change that bigots attitude towards gays. Or just being able to witness the love between two gay people as Dr B and Alex have shared with us could do wonders to show gay bashers, that love is love regardless..... Whether straight or gay, we all want the same things from love...such as companionship, happiness, joy, freedom to express it and acceptance of loving who we want to...

Being straight I welcome any help educating other straights into accepting gays. It is not an easy task to change a bigot, but this board has the potential to help tremendously.

To me, it would be an insult to be stereo-typed as...."just like her"....
Ms. Warner putting herself in the public eye in such a negative light, and not holding herself accountable for the bad publicity, is the very reason countless people. whether straight or gay, will not stop talking about it...So instead of bashing those who are still talking about it, I am in total agreement to continue to call out , the one who failed to talk about it....Jackie herself.

Having ran my own business for 20 years, I will never keep my voice quiet to her indifference to "gossiping about her clients", regardless if they had cancer or not, it is totally unacceptable.. Yeah, we have all stuck our foot in our mouths before, but a persons true character is shown when they make a choice to either remove their foot from their mouth using accountability or if they cram the foot down even further , by ignorance and indifference.

Since I am cancer victim myself, I want to remind Ms. Warner the very subject of cancer she disrespected (and could have used to her benefit instead), might just be the very thing that becomes her downfall... For cancer, is not a bigot. ...Only people are.


If I weren't a lesbian and I had never met a gay person and I came on this board I would think that all gay people are [expletive deleted] crazy. And, then I would have to agree with all of those narrow minded religious freaks and say that gay people shouldn't get married. Thankfully I am gay so I know that not all gay people are crazy. Woo-hoo we can marry in the state of California in June..

So does anybody want to talk about WORKOUT?????????????
clarakotka
QUOTE (Kiasmama @ May 30, 2008 - 06:47 PM) *
it's one reason I decided to study neuroscience and neurochemistry. It's really quite fascinating. Frankly I"m more surprised everything works as well as it does..lol.


LOL!!! I feel the same way sometimes! Amazed that I'm still above ground but you can't keep a good woman down I guess! I channel a lot into my writing and often joke that I've had my hardships so one day I can use them onstage. Gotta keep a positive attutide and work on the things we do have control over. Keep on, my dear!!!

I find all aspects of the brain fascinating! With all the knowledge out there, there are still things we don't fully understand. I admire your work.
clarakotka
QUOTE (Larceny @ May 30, 2008 - 07:02 PM) *
Very beautifully put. I wish I could have vocalized it near as well as you have. Thank you.


Pan rocks!
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (ILoveGoldenRetrievers @ May 30, 2008 - 10:04 PM) *
If I weren't a lesbian and I had never met a gay person and I came on this board I would think that all gay people are [expletive deleted] crazy. And, then I would have to agree with all of those narrow minded religious freaks and say that gay people shouldn't get married. Thankfully I am gay so I know that not all gay people are crazy. Woo-hoo we can marry in the state of California in June..

So does anybody want to talk about WORKOUT?????????????

Only a few here are certifiable. You got Liam/larceny, JC (who is one nasty Mfer), and maybe two more. The rest are ok...but, be warned, laiaceniam is one nasty sob and so is JC. Whew. Real nasty little animals.
ILoveGoldenRetrievers
QUOTE (chefdaddy123 @ May 30, 2008 - 10:09 PM) *
Only a few here are certifiable. You got Liam/larceny, JC (who is one nasty Mfer), and maybe two more. The rest are ok...but, be warned, laiaceniam is one nasty sob and so is JC. Whew. Real nasty little animals.



Yeah you're right!!! You can't even equate them to animals. Animals are too cute ; ). How about monsters....
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (ILoveGoldenRetrievers @ May 30, 2008 - 10:13 PM) *
Yeah you're right!!! You can't even equate them to animals. Animals are too cute ; ). How about monsters....


Yeah, that is more fitting, they are just nasty creatures, how about that??
ILoveGoldenRetrievers
QUOTE (chefdaddy123 @ May 30, 2008 - 10:14 PM) *
Yeah, that is more fitting, they are just nasty creatures, how about that??



What do you think of the rest of the cast? I like that new guy JD. He seems to have a kind soul. I didn't see this last Workout episode. I'm going to watch it tomorrow afternoon. Anything good happen? I hope she didn't hire Peeler back.
ILoveGoldenRetrievers
QUOTE (chefdaddy123 @ May 30, 2008 - 10:14 PM) *
Yeah, that is more fitting, they are just nasty creatures, how about that??



That is right on the mark...
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (ILoveGoldenRetrievers @ May 30, 2008 - 10:19 PM) *
What do you think of the rest of the cast? I like that new guy JD. He seems to have a kind soul. I didn't see this last Workout episode. I'm going to watch it tomorrow afternoon. Anything good happen? I hope she didn't hire Peeler back.



I like JD too, he is pretty cool. He seems to be really nice. Not vicious or anything...Man, I missed the last episode too!!! I don't know if he is back, but I doubt it.
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (ILoveGoldenRetrievers @ May 30, 2008 - 10:20 PM) *
That is right on the mark...
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (ILoveGoldenRetrievers @ May 30, 2008 - 10:20 PM) *
That is right on the mark...



I can't wait to see Jackie with her mom. I missed that whole episode. I have to find out when its on again. I am not crazy about her mom at all.
ILoveGoldenRetrievers
QUOTE (chefdaddy123 @ May 30, 2008 - 10:24 PM) *
I can't wait to see Jackie with her mom. I missed that whole episode. I have to find out when its on again. I am not crazy about her mom at all.


Yeah, I'm not sure about that mother either. Very selfish and narrow minded. I would disown my mother if she acted that way. Thankfully, she is very accepting.
fg
Larceny, I didn't know you were in Jacksonville....I'm in Port St Lucie rolleyes.gif
clarakotka
I don't care for Renessa. I'm not sure why, exactly, but something about her rings false.
ILoveGoldenRetrievers
QUOTE (ILoveGoldenRetrievers @ May 30, 2008 - 10:29 PM) *
Yeah, I'm not sure about that mother either. Very selfish and narrow minded. I would disown my mother if she acted that way. Thankfully, she is very accepting.


Hey you know what I just realized. We're the only ones here now. Whew! All of the bullies had to go to sleep so they can have the mental energy to bully again tomorrow.
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (ILoveGoldenRetrievers @ May 30, 2008 - 10:29 PM) *
Yeah, I'm not sure about that mother either. Very selfish and narrow minded. I would disown my mother if she acted that way. Thankfully, she is very accepting.



Yeah, my mom was very accepting of my sister. I can't believe a parent would be so cruel as to shun their own child for being gay. Its plain sick and sorry. I don't blame kids for disowning their parents. I am surprised Jackie has not yet!!
clarakotka
QUOTE (ILoveGoldenRetrievers @ May 30, 2008 - 07:31 PM) *
Hey you know what I just realized. We're the only ones here now. Whew! All of the bullies had to go to sleep so they can have the mental energy to bully again tomorrow.


I just posted. And I'm not a bully.
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (ILoveGoldenRetrievers @ May 30, 2008 - 10:31 PM) *
Hey you know what I just realized. We're the only ones here now. Whew! All of the bullies had to go to sleep so they can have the mental energy to bully again tomorrow.


No such luck, my friend. They are lurking and playing looky loo (look at the bottom). Dont be afraid. Just don't look at them straight in the eye ( I am referring to liam/larceny, JC, and fgnelson..whew. Mean ol' sobs, my friend. The others are ok, they play nice...
fg
QUOTE (clarakotka @ May 30, 2008 - 10:32 PM) *
I just posted.



The little bit that I saw of Renessa, she was alright...pretty girl...but I would have rather that Erika hook up with Greg rolleyes.gif
ILoveGoldenRetrievers
QUOTE (clarakotka @ May 30, 2008 - 10:32 PM) *
I just posted. And I'm not a bully.


I'm sorry! If you're not a bully then I'm not referring to you.
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (clarakotka @ May 30, 2008 - 10:30 PM) *
I don't care for Renessa. I'm not sure why, exactly, but something about her rings false.



She is kind of like rebecca, in that she wants to be a star, imo. I think she has a child too.. she seems somewhat unstable...
clarakotka
QUOTE (fgnelson @ May 30, 2008 - 07:35 PM) *
The little bit that I saw of Renessa, she was alright...pretty girl...but I would have rather that Erika hook up with Greg rolleyes.gif


Greg was good for Erika's self-esteem. I liked them as a potential couple. Renessa ... I can't put my finger on it. mellow.gif
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (ILoveGoldenRetrievers @ May 30, 2008 - 10:36 PM) *
I'm sorry! If you're not a bully then I'm not referring to you.



No, she is one of the good ones, for sure!
clarakotka
QUOTE (chefdaddy123 @ May 30, 2008 - 07:36 PM) *
She is kind of like rebecca, in that she wants to be a star, imo. I think she has a child too.. she seems somewhat unstable...


Yeah, I heard about her child! Maybe that's what I'm sensing in her, a similarity to Rebecca in that regard. But I like Rebecca. She's more open about her need for attention. Renessa kinda pretends she doesn't want it but ... yeahno!
ILoveGoldenRetrievers
QUOTE (chefdaddy123 @ May 30, 2008 - 10:34 PM) *
No such luck, my friend. They are lurking and playing looky loo (look at the bottom). Dont be afraid. Just don't look at them straight in the eye ( I am referring to liam/larceny, JC, and fgnelson..whew. Mean ol' sobs, my friend. The others are ok, they play nice...


Well, it's been fun. Maybe I'll talk to you again on the board tomorrow. Now it's time for me to go give my little golden retriever pup some attention.

Stay strong.
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (clarakotka @ May 30, 2008 - 10:39 PM) *
Yeah, I heard about her child! Maybe that's what I'm sensing in her, a similarity to Rebecca in that regard. But I like Rebecca. She's more open about her need for attention. Renessa kinda pretends she doesn't want it but ... yeahno!



Very true! She doesn't try to hide it , so , its almost endearing. But, Renessa..not too sure. She is kind of off kilter...
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (ILoveGoldenRetrievers @ May 30, 2008 - 10:39 PM) *
Well, it's been fun. Maybe I'll talk to you again on the board tomorrow. Now it's time for me to go give my little golden retriever pup some attention.

Stay strong.



Good night!!! Strong is my middle name!!
Larceny
QUOTE (fgnelson @ May 30, 2008 - 10:29 PM) *
Larceny, I didn't know you were in Jacksonville....I'm in Port St Lucie rolleyes.gif


Yes, and I absolutely love it here. We get all four seasons, just without the snow. The weather is phenomenal and I only live a few miles from the ocean. Couldn't ask for anything better.
clarakotka
QUOTE (chefdaddy123 @ May 30, 2008 - 07:40 PM) *
Very true! She doesn't try to hide it , so , its almost endearing. But, Renessa..not too sure. She is kind of off kilter...


Is her child old enough to see the show? That kid must be mortified!
*green for NiCi*
fg
QUOTE (Larceny @ May 30, 2008 - 10:41 PM) *
Yes, and I absolutely love it here. We get all four seasons, just without the snow. The weather is phenomenal and I only live a few miles from the ocean. Couldn't ask for anything better.






Did ya'll have any of the fires?
chefdaddy123
QUOTE (clarakotka @ May 30, 2008 - 10:43 PM) *
Is her child old enough to see the show? That kid must be mortified!
*green for NiCi*


No, not yet! Boy, I don't know if I would want them to see the show! They are only three years old and 1 year old!
NiCi
QUOTE (clarakotka @ May 30, 2008 - 09:43 PM) *
I dressed him up as a gladiator!!!!!!!!! I shall call him Titus Pullo.


I dresed him up as a constuctuion worker. I shall call him Bulldozer!
clarakotka
QUOTE (Larceny @ May 30, 2008 - 07:41 PM) *
Yes, and I absolutely love it here. We get all four seasons, just without the snow. The weather is phenomenal and I only live a few miles from the ocean. Couldn't ask for anything better.


I'm jealous!!! I don't remember the last time we saw all 4 seasons! I'm starting to think 4 of them is a myth! Ohhh, I love the ocean! *le sigh*
fg
Yeah, I don't get seasons here either, but I do have the beach rolleyes.gif
clarakotka
QUOTE (chefdaddy123 @ May 30, 2008 - 07:44 PM) *
No, not yet! Boy, I don't know if I would want them to see the show! They are only three years old and 1 year old!


Oy. I'd rather have my kids reading a book or doing artwork than watching television. Especially if I were being a drunken [expletive deleted] tongue.gif !

QUOTE (NiCi @ May 30, 2008 - 07:44 PM) *
I dresed him up as a constuctuion worker. I shall call him bulldozer!


AhhhhhYeahhhh!!! Be sure to get a look at his crane! rolleyes.gif
Larceny
QUOTE (fgnelson)
Did ya'll have any of the fires?


No, none. That was much further west of us. We've had a fair amount of rain this year so I'm hoping that things won't be quite as dry.
fg
Okay guys...gotta go relax for awile and get ready for bed....gonna go see Sex And The City tomorrow...I'm way excited. rolleyes.gif Good Night to all.
clarakotka
QUOTE (fgnelson @ May 30, 2008 - 07:47 PM) *
Yeah, I don't get seasons here either, but I do have the beach rolleyes.gif


Beach!!! I live the valley. I have smog. Hurrah! I'm jealous of your beach!
clarakotka
QUOTE (clarakotka @ May 30, 2008 - 07:48 PM) *
Oy. I'd rather have my kids reading a book or doing artwork than watching television. Especially if I were being a drunken [expletive deleted] tongue.gif !



AhhhhhYeahhhh!!! Be sure to get a look at his crane! rolleyes.gif


Okay, "hoe" then.
They deleted my non-expletive! ph34r.gif
clarakotka
QUOTE (fgnelson @ May 30, 2008 - 07:49 PM) *
Okay guys...gotta go relax for awile and get ready for bed....gonna go see Sex And The City tomorrow...I'm way excited. rolleyes.gif Good Night to all.


Let me know if its any good!!! Sweet dreams honey!
Qwacker
QUOTE (JCpalmsprings @ May 30, 2008 - 07:31 PM) *
Hey everyone

Lets all take a road trip this weekend!

We can stay at the Dolphin Bay Resort and Spa, Party in the bar with the trainers, Make-out and have sex late at night in the pool, Wakeup to a tasty Jackie shake and then puke at the beach laugh.gif

What do you think????


I'll come but I have to check with my probation officer. I've been trying on clothes and I think if I dyed my hair darker, orange just might look OK on me. wink.gif
Larceny
QUOTE (clarakotka)
I'm jealous!!! I don't remember the last time we saw all 4 seasons! I'm starting to think 4 of them is a myth! Ohhh, I love the ocean! *le sigh*


The winter can get cold here, down in the mid-30's, but the ground always stays warm so any rain never freezes. When I first came down to look at Jacksonville, I was so surprised at how green it was. While we do have palm trees, they are not native to here. Tall evergreens are. Palm Trees are actually planted. It almost appears like Wisconsin with the amount of evergreens actually. The summers are very hot and humid, while the Fall thru Spring are very nice and mild. There's always an ocean breeze.
Jack123
QUOTE (Kiasmama @ May 30, 2008 - 06:14 PM) *
but some of us DEAL with those so called demons. Even though I have depression, which you've so clearly pointed out, I make a decision, a choice on how I want to deal with that depression. I can sit around and use it as an excuse for snapping at people, or and excuse to sit on my butt and collect a check, but I don't.

I've been living with depression for about 15 years now. It was a struggle at first, but a great therapist, medication and the desire to change, got me where I am today (which is a lot better off than a lot of "so called" healthy people) I made the CHOICE to change my behavior. I DID what needed to be done. Frankly I think that puts me in a better spot to give an opinion on jackie's lack of change. I've DONE it. I walked what I am talking about. Jackie hasn't. She's using her poor decision making as a blame game.


EXACTLY what I said! In my post about knowing people like you. Hate to break out a cliche but "been there and done that."

Done it all. Used to say allll the same things:

"If I can survive, they can or he can or she can." "I've had it tough, that ain't nothin' that person needs to get off his or her a&S." Kia, we are more soul sistas than you realize. I was the same way but I ALSO took action and I learned a very important lesson. I cannot EVER impose my standards or values on another person. Especially when it comes to psychological issues. If that person isn't invading my world or violating a law, it's not my business. The only thing I can do is live my life in the light and set a good example. I can listen and I can open my heart.

Everyone is different. Everyone faces their pain in their own way and in their own time. Compassion is accepting that someone hasn't had the strength to face those issues yet. You should know that telling someone they need help rarely works. The only time someone can truly step in is if someone is psychotic and about to hurt themselves or someone else.

There is a great deal of self-deprication in the homosexual community. When you spoke (you Kia) of barebacking in bathrooms not only was I offended by the generalization but I was offended by the lack of understanding. First, it's not a "common" practice in ALL clubs. Second, for the men who engage in such risky behavior, there is typically some serious psychological issues going on there. Do I encourage a different approach to life? Absolutely. Do I judge them and tell them they're wrong? It wouldn't get me anywhere. If you push someone into the corner, pointing an accusational finger, they'll simply push back, claw and fight their way out.

Expecting everyone to be like you and judging them for not being that way is unfair and as I said before, leads to a life of isolation as you will eventually push everyone away for not adhering to your strict standards. If you truly believe in your conviction, then be a leader not an accuser.

One last story of seriousness. I turned my back on the Catholic Church and God when I was young. How could I respect or believe in something that thought I was wrong? How could my birth be a mistake? What kind of religion would be so cruel? I had and still do to this day a friend who is a devout Catholic. He remained my friend when others turned their back. He has always been there for me. One day during a very angry dark period in my life, I attacked him for his faith. I said, "How can you believe in something so cruel! So awful and hateful!" His response, "Forget the rhetoric. Listen. Only God has the power to judge. Not me. Not anyone else." He went on to tell me that there were many messages in the Bible and that he believed that too often people liked to use these messages as weapons against others. However, he believes and lives his life with these words (note: I am not a religious person and I'm butchering what it took hours for him to explain to me) anyway, he recited these words from Matthew: "Judge not, that you be not judged. "For with what judgement you judge, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you." He went on and I respected him by listening even though at the time, I thought it was all crap. The three things that stuck with me and probably saved my life were his repeating of Matthew 7: 1-6, The Fruit of the Holy Spirit which is Love, Joy, Peace, Longsuffering, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, Self-Control, Modesty, Continence, Chastity and The Chief Corporal Works of Mercy which are to feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, shelter the homeless, clothe the naked, visit those in prison, visit the sick, bury the dead.

NOW, lemme just say that I still have SOME MAJOR issues with the Catholic Church (and no, I was never abused by a Priest). BUT, in all my years of being raised as a Catholic, I couldn't recall ever hearing those words in such a compassionate and loving way and that was powerful to me. CLEARLY, I am flawed! I don't pretend otherwise. laugh.gif But for the first time, I realized that maybe I wasn't so lost. Maybe I wasn't going to hell. Maybe all those people saying otherwise were misguided and wounded or just scared. All I could do was open my heart. Am I still a b1tch? Of course I am. I let the b1tch flag fly on this board for sure. I saw someone being attacked and it seemed completely stupid to me. Maybe I am more protective of LGBT community than I am anyone else. Perhaps it's a shortcoming of mine. I suppose I have a few. I just wanted to point out that it really is just a show and if you really want to take it seriously then first accept those involved on a very basic human level first. I pass judgement on the people on the show. That's the best part but it's not real. It only became real when you started contacting sponsors and freaking out on anyone who likes the show. It was all clear to me.

Oh L0rd! It's so much more fun being a smarta$$. This is way too heavy for me. It's Friday night and I think I'm going to go to bed now. You've worn me out.

JC, I'm going to dance this one out for you:

Cue: Gypsies tramps and thieves----

spinning

out



clarakotka
DrB, you need to post a pix of the goat-cat! I wanna see this beast!
Jack123
QUOTE (clarakotka @ May 30, 2008 - 07:30 PM) *
I don't care for Renessa. I'm not sure why, exactly, but something about her rings false.


Thank you! The girl grates on my nerves like there's no tomorrow. Did you read her blog? Now tell me who's b1tchie! tongue.gif
Unwritten
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clarakotka
QUOTE (Jack123 @ May 30, 2008 - 08:02 PM) *
Thank you! The girl grates on my nerves like there's no tomorrow. Did you read her blog? Now tell me who's b1tchie! tongue.gif


You know, I've never read any of her blogs! tongue.gif I'll go check it out, though. She bothers me! I feel she has an innocent act going on and I'm not buying it.
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