You obviously did not watch the show or read any threads. Jamie's boyfriend(Rich) overheard everything and walked in on Jackie and Lisa and said that Jamie was his girlfriend and was a breast cancer survivor. Lisa just took the fall for Jackie. Rich and a production person for Bravo heard the whole thing. That is why Jackie fired Peeler so that this would not get out. She was the actual person who started the conversation. Even to this date Jackie will not admit it and if you read Lisa's blog you will understand more. She was the escape goat for Jackie. TOO BAD IT FAILED!!

LOL. When did I ever say I'd pull out my eyelashes because of differing opinions?

Just illustrating how the act of pulling my eyelashes out one by one would be more enjoyable than watching a show that starred Brian Peeler, the trainer so full of himself yet can't even run a mile.

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No, I watched the show and saw the part about Jamie's boyfriend overhearing them but was stunned to see such a different take on things when I decided to check out the Bravo boards today. Haven't read any blogs either but I'll check out Lisa's blog, thanks for the tip!

go over to the LARAGMAG SITE AND LEAVE COMMENTS ABOUT bRAVO CLOSING SEASON THREE BOARDS. FILL ANDY COHENS BLOG WITH COMMENTS..........

Like I said earlier, whatever floats your boat.

Seems kinda weird though that its more enjoyable to watch a trainer that is so full of herself that she has to lie to you so blatantly for you to blindly accept her...oh wait a minute, you don't have any eyelashes to shield your eyes from the crap flying your way. Ok now I understand your disability to see what's really going on around you.

Haha. For someone who says we'll just have to agree to disagree, you sure are snide and patronizing. That seems kinda weird to me.

Let it go, shadeling will read more threads and come to an informed opinion. NO MORE back lash against other viewers of the show. If they state their opinion let it be.

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Thank you! It's nice to see maturity on these boards.

Oops, sorry for your hurt feelings. Hope it gets better soon (said in a sincere and non-patronizing, snide way). Yep, we'll have to just agree to disagree.

Ok, I am probably going to get a backlash for this so here it goes. I watched the episode last week and was appalled like everyone else. I thought bad behavior was on both sides of the fence. But, I watched the show as a TV producer and so I tend to see things with a different eye. So here it goes..

First off I few words about last season and the relationship between Jackie and Rebecca. In the reunion show we learn that Rebecca had a boyfriend during her relationship with Jackie. In his blog Jesse states that he and other members of the cast were no allowed to discuss this on camera. What does this tell you? It tells you that the producers of the show sought to cast that relationship in a certain light. As a filmmaker it tells me that these producers can and will lie to you. So keep this in mind.

First off as I am sure you know these shows are cast. The people portrayed are performers. Also, for the record I have never met any of the WorkOut Cast.

So, let's go to the incident in question. Unfortunately, we only see a portion of it. Because of this everyone assumes what must be on it. I have read every blog on here and the innuendo and rumors started astound me. Stuff like a Bravo employee made the remarks, quotes that mysteriously disappear from web sites etc and endless gossiping. The only thing we can do is look at we we have been allowed to see.

There is a huge clue in the footage that I think everyone missed. Complaints abound about Rebecca and Erika lying about the altercation with Peeler. Because what they say does not match what you see. Did anyone here ever stop to think that Rebecca and Erika were NOT LYING. Could they actually be reporting back to everyone what they actually heard? Could it be possible that the edited version seen on TV is not a true representation of what actually transpired? The answer to these questions can be yes. I think and I could be wrong that the incident in Jackie's office was shortened for dramatic effect.

Everyone points to Lisa's blog. That she is telling the truth and Jackie must be lying. Lisa who can't mind her own business, who manipulates people and spies on them. The only reason I believe that she inserted herself into the fight with Greg and Deanie was to get camera time. If anyone is not to be trusted it is her and yet her word is taken for granted. Just something to think about.

Now to the breast plant incident itself. I think it was childish and sophmorish. So why did it happen? It happened because at that moment Lisa knew Jackie was riled up about Peeler and she played the moment to bond with her boss.

After all Lisa had just informed her not long ago about Brian's phone call to Don Scott. Brian had gone behind Jackie's back. Did no one find this phone call suspicious and set up. I certainly did. Peeler chooses to make this call in front of Lisa on the speaker phone. Certainly if Brian Peeler had no agenda then he would have made the call on his cell phone to ensure a private conversation. Instead he chooses to make the call so Jackie will find out. He is rattling her cage. The stage is set.

Let's face it if this girl had not had cancer but was just some model looking to take her size C to a DD not many viewers would have had the reaction they did. No matter what it was wrong. As I have stated before most of this footage is not in the show and this does present a problem. So you have to decide who is telling you the truth. Personally, I would like to see the footage. I would also like to see the raw footage of the Jackie and Peeler incident.

All I am trying to say is TV can manipulate you into seeing something you thought was real. I think Jackie's "apology" was a reaction to her differing view of events due to the fact that possibly a 5 minute altercation was cut down to 30 seconds. So let's see how and if Bravo reacts to this on Monday.

By the way, I do think Jackie is a bit full of herself this season. Oh and by the way Jackie should have apologized to Jamie and her boyfriend on behalf of the gym.

That's all I have to say for now.

Oh Pulleeze...knock it off.

Knock what off? It's true. And obviously, maturity is something you sorely lack.

And you didn't hurt my feelings. Sorry.

VERY interesting take on things. Thanks for having the guts to post this because some on this board do not take different opinions all that well.

I also agree with you that Jackie does seem full of herself this season and that she should have apologized on behalf of the gym, regardless of what happened, being the owner it was her obligation.

If Bravo wanted to clear up the controversy they would show the footage of the incident(unedited) on Tues. I know they will not and try to shut us up as they have been. I believe to take the side of Jamie, Rich, and Peeler until I see proof other wise(seems not to be available or it would have been shown). I respect all those who have different views and hope as more evidence comes to pass, one of us will be proved right or wrong. I still believe that no matter what the show should be cancelled for its lack of substance and motivation for fitness(WORKOUT?)

Really cool points here, but I have to ask:

Regardless of the altercation between Peeler and Warner, do you think folks are more upset at the total lack of respect for the clients?

There were a couple of instances brought into play where clients are talked about derogatorily behind their backs (the skylab client for one and Jamie Eason for another). This show's storyline has an over-indulgent tendancy to talk and act differently to people they are supposedly working for behind their backs (some cast members more than others). I'm sure this is a way for tv producers to induce drama and make the audience a part of the show, but there have been too many lines of common decency crossed and I honestly think that a lot of the viewers are fed up with it all.

Why can't TV become an art form that lifts humanity and the human spirit. Maybe the timing of the crap being shoveled at us is poor with this Country in its current state of financial, moral, political, religious flux.

Maybe we are all crying out to be able to see the good in real-life situations?

Maybe we're tired of the same old crap that keeps getting thrown at us?

Maybe we're tired of the sophemoric situations the producers/writers/directors believe the public will watch and enjoy?

You're a producer. I dare you to come up with better ideas for programs that might be able to educate as well as entertain. Take it to the next level. Give the audience some credit for having a little more intelligence by offering shows that enrich, enlighten, entertain, educate...

Going to the gym is hard especially if you are overweight. I happen to be one of those people. You just don't want to look dumb in front of everyone. I was recently in a yoga class at the Y. I have no flexibility, and looked like a dork beside a pretty petite woman whose arms and legs had the elasticity of a wet noodle. It took everything I had to hang in and get through it.

A gym can be a very vulnerable place. I worked in a place for almost twenty years where people came at their most vulnerable. Catty comments like Jackie and Lisa made would've meant that people were getting pink slips. If I had heard something rude from a trainer at my gym, it would be really hard to get me to come back.

The idea that Jackie and Lisa made comments that some of us always fear is happening behind our backs is what may fuel much of our outrage. If someone was to ask Jackie if she ever disses or judges clients, she would immediately claim it never happened. However, this incident proves that it does. I wouldn't feel safe going to Jackie's gym. Even before this incident, I didn't like how she was with clients. And in this last episode, she scolds a client for having trouble getting to the gym. Then she protects a trainer who is also late or absent. She protects an employee who made inappropriate remarks in earshot of clients, but fires an employee who tries to stand up for a client.

Hypocrisy, thy name is Jackie.

Oh, and Shadeling, you are seem to be fueling some discord among the ranks. It's not attractive. Plus, your icon is driving me nuts.

sheila

Apparently voicing my opinion is fueling discord? On a discussion forum? That's funny. If people just accepted differing opinions, then no discord would be sown, yes?

And sorry that my avatar bothers you, but I like it.

YES, I would like to see all of the footage too. I have been disgusted at the direction, that the producers, and editors have taken this.show., and I emailed Andy Cohen about my concerns way befor this past episode.the FEEL of workout went from a show that was pretty dammed inspiring, on many levels, to Jerry springer shock, tabloid stuff. I am so disappointed. and DEEPLY saddened. This is not all Jackie warner's fault.......Bravo shares a HUGE partpart of responsibility. Last time I checked my original email to Andy Cohen's blog a few weeks ago was there. SIGH

The way I see it is this. I am a consumer. I have been a loyal viewer of Bravo's shows, not only this one (for many seasons), but many of their other shows (for years) as well. I could just stop watching the show. But I choose to inform them of WHY I (a loyal viewer) am not going to continue to watch this show. In doing this I am providing useful informaiton (if they are smart enough to listen) to them about the very valid concerns at least one, and probably some, of their viewers have about the very objectionable nature of the recent airings of this show.

Now, they can choose to ignore me/us when we do this, that is their perogative - but it is neither smart, nor will it contirbute to thier business' success in the long run.(and it certainly speeks to their character) I may be only one, but by the looks of the feedback on the boards I am not alone, and as a consumer I can take my business elsewhere. There are plenty of other places that will be glad to have it if Bravo decides it does not want it!

At this point I am just asking for acknowledgement (and for the common decency not to have discussion threads summarily locked down!) that they hear our concerns. I understand that logistically they can not just stop airing the entire season of Work Out - but they can do something to acknowledge that they have heard us and will do something to address our concerns. NOW, IS THAT REALLY TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN LOYAL VIEWERS FOR YEARS?!!!!

I'm a newby to all this stuff, but I don't mind the discussion part of it. We all saw the same thing, we just all come from our own backgrounds so we bring our own perspective to it. I myself am a 45 year old married overweight lady from small town Minnesota.

I think Jackie's attitude was horriable on so many levels.. the whole girlfriend semi-cheeting thing, disrespectful of clients, commenting on someones looks, & actually, I can not believe that she had any idea about the cancer...however, she did by the end of the episode. She could of simply said "You know what, we/me/ someone said some shitty things & I'm really sorry & now especially after finding out about your surgery, I feel so awful. Please forgive me." I wouldn't of come to these boards in the first place if that was said.

As for Peeler, he could of been fired many times & I wouldn't have batted an eye, but in this one instance, he was totally in the right to try & stand up for his/Skysports client! What he said afterword, I get he was pissed, was WRONG! & I really expect an apoligy from him too.

If I'm watching something like Hell's Kitchen, I expect & even get a chuckel out of all the drama, but that is not what I expected from this show. I was actually watching it because it was so different from my world & I wanted to maybe get an idea about different people. I guess I'm sorry I looked. I really hope this dosen't set sterotypes all over again.

And by the way, I like the little cat thingy, so you can see I'm a bit strange!

OK, sorry, couldn't help myself for offering an idea for a solution as opposed to just throwing a problem at you, so:

Here's my idea for something different;

What about a reality show that takes all (or at least a manageable number) of us (folks who write on the boards).

As you have read, there are a plethora - a veritable cornucopia - of 'real people' in here who would probably allow you to strategically place a camera or three in our homes to witness life from the perspective of the "average Joe (or Josephine)" as we comment about our perceptions of Reality TV as it comes at us.

At present, there is a really large black dog snoring and drooling on my left foot as I type this idea (yes I have neatly moved all electrical cords so that no animals are harmed as I work in front of an electrical appliance).

Yes, I am a real lesbian and my partner of 9 years is in the sun room cleaning out the kitty litter pans. There's a possibility of high drama as I type, waiting for her to yell at me because she "ALWAYS" has to clean the kitty pans...Oh My God! What will I do? Stop playing on the computer? (Heck NO!). Am I a "Gay and Lesbian Icon"? Nope, just your average run-of-the-mill, animal-lovin, flannel-wearin, not-good-at-makeup, but beeeyouteeful-on-the-inside LESBIAN. OK, so there's your example of alternative lifestyle people. Now, just find some more demographics to cover and I bet ya we got a winner!

Heck, I've got a mortgage to pay (Don't own a gym called SkySport) and would gladly take the opportunity to be a Reality-not-so-Star.

Hey, just throwing my hat into the arena just in case that's how you become a member of 'Real TV'

Looking forward to viewing your response :-)

Hey Ohio, That was too funny! Can I be the fat stright chick with adopted kids?

Heck YEAH!!!!

First meeting of the 'Board' Room will be at my house Memeorial Day!

Bubbaque to ensue. Bring floatation devices for any children too small for a plastic wading pool and let them know they will be sharing it with Dawgs!

Let's DO IT SISTAH! If we don't like what's being presented, show 'em somethin different, but "REAL"

I'm not sure thay could handle "Real" people on a reality show! But any other takers?

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Just tryin to get back on topic:)

I see what you saying if you speak of only this one episode. Look at

the entire third season. Jackie has been down right rude to Rebecca.

I knew all about Rebecca having had a relationship with a man while

she was seeing Jackie. This does not acquit Jackie for being rude to

Rebecca neither last season or this season. Rebecca has this look on

her face when she is being hurt that is unmistakable. When Jackie was

kissing on her last season and then her other girlfriend came to the

dinner, she drops Rebecca and begins with the new girl, the same face

Rebecca shows here she shows also last season when she is talking

to Jackie in her office or at dinner and suddenly someone is texting

Jackie. This expression on Rebecca shows up first episode this season.

Jackie shows up with new girlfriend and is kissing on her. Then you

have the cruise ship episode where Jackie interrupts boot camp and

gets rude with Rebecca for asking her about her taking over the boot

camp. This expression Rebecca gets is that big smile and painfilled eyes.

The lost look when Rebecca is in Renessa's cabin and they are

discussing the night before. My opinion, Rebecca should sue Jackie

for sexual harrassment. No amount of misdeeds by Rebecca justifies

the mean spirited reactions by Jackie towards Rebecca.

Now Brian Peeler. Jackie has done several things that were down right

rude to Brian Peeler. Last season when she was at Doug and Erika's

birthday party Jackie made a comment about how she was responsible

for the success of her trainers. Now, as I said about this before, if I

was one of those trainers I'd be as angry as Brian Peeler. I would not

be surprised if more than Brian felt the way Brian showed he felt. He

got himself to the place where he ended up on the show which Jackie

verifies by expressing that she was FORCED to endure Brian Peeler's

presence on the show because the producers picked him. She has

made some pretty snide comments to Brian Peeler including shutting

him out of the planning for Doug's fund raiser which Doug's friend wanted

Brian to be apart of. Also, I have a bone to pick with Jackie as last

season she made it appear her emotionalism at her father's grave was

about her Father when in fact, she had just heard about Doug being

near death. I doubt Bravo made this appear like this. I doubt Jackie

has NO control over what is shown. Most people know quite well that

reality television is edited. Usually the viewers can tell when something

is made to look a certain way, and when what is being said by someone

is truly their opinion. Jackie has done nothing but trashed Brian Peeler

this entire season. Clearly she was trying to get us all angry with

Brian so that when she fired him on the show we'd all agree with her.

To bad for Jackie, Brian was being professional. The only person who

raised their voice until Jackie stated that she was this close to firing

Brian Peeler was Jackie. I have lost all respect for her. She had

inspired me to exercise. I really liked her a lot. I feel sick at how she

has been treating Rebecca, Brian and even Erica. Clearly, Rebecca is

the next to be fired or hurt even more than she already has been

because like Brian Peeler, Jackie has trashed Rebecca over and over

again. It is just too bad Jackie is incapable of accepting responsibility

for her own actions. Even an apology and a change in her behavior

would have made this situation better for me. It isn't going to happen.

Not once had anyone with the show suggested we all continue to

watch because some sort of realization is going to happen most likely

because it isn't going to happen. I am pretty done with this show. I

hope it goes away. Every single episode Jackie remains on the air it

will be telling some person it is okay to be so rude to people. No thanks

for me.

Kari Ana

Sorry..a little laughter dosen't hurt. I have signed the petition, I have left mesages on several blogs, I have writen sponsers. I guess I've said my part & I'll stay out of it, didn't mean to interupt. Please carry on!

Guess its just you and me L'il Sistah. No problem. I bet we could give em a taste of 'Real' to make 'em all think twice about what's really important in life (Family/extended family/friends/children/animals/community)

God (Dog spelled backwards) bless diversity!

You and your kids are welcome in my space anytime! I'll even purchase a new 'Slip-n-Slide' so we can show those "trendy folks" what a good time is all about!

Peace be with you L'il Sistah!

Shadeling, is that a tear of deep emotion in your eye or a lack of eyelashes from watchin the new version of reality TV?

OK, sorry, that was sarcastic on my part and you should thoroughly beat me with a wet noodle, but it was an open line...someone had to go there...trust me, Kathy Griffin would have been tougher on you for that one.

I hereby promise not to pick on you any more or write anything that could possibly make you feel bad...K?

Yes, I have one coming, so go ahead and hit me with t he best you got. I won't reply so you get the last word and the upper hand Okee Dokee?

Perhaps this is too much insight into us. It suddenly occured to me that

what I have been seeing on this season's Workout is the same kind of

stuff every bully I have ever known has done to me and others as well.

They suck you in thinking they care about you, then step over you

like you are nothing and suddenly you realize they have also trashed

and abused you to everyone you know. Exactly what Jackie has so

far done to Brian Peeler and Rebecca, as well Jackie outted Erica as

well as a bulimia victim. Having struggled with bulimia myself I know it

is pretty mean to make Erica feel exposed to the world the way she did.

Poor Erica.

Kari Ana

Yep, sweetie. You just spoke VOLUMES!

As for the "Stay on Task" force - did everything Y'all asked, now quit pushin me.

I felt so bad for poor Erika.
I started watching the show hoping to get inspired to exercise. I have about 20 lbs to lose from the weight I put on when i quit smoking.
I'm not having any success in the motivation area. LOL its funny. You would think a show called "Work Out" would be about working out!

PETITION CALLING FOR WORKOUT CANCELLATION

I've started an online petition for those willing to back up their opinions/comments here with a strong message to Bravo and the makers of Propel Fitness Water. The formal letter will be sent to Bravo on Monday (tomorrow).

Copies will go to the National Exercise and Sports Trainers Assocation and the International Sports Science Association (organizations which certify Ms. Warner) as well as Gatorade (makers of Propel Fitness Water), HRC, The American Cancer Society, The City of Beverly Hills, CA and NBC.

I will post a copy of the letter here.

Spread the word!

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UPDATE: 379 signatures - Keep them coming! Jackie may be the dictator of her gym, but it is the VIEWERS who have the ultimate say in her show's success or lack thereof! Post a link to this wherever you can, public boards, blogs, email, etc. Let's get to 500 by Monday!

Shame on Bravo! for trying to silence the critics by closing the Season 3 message thread - what cowardice!

Don't know if this has been put up yet -

Originally Posted by JamieEason
"First off, I was training and Peeler almost made me throw up, so yes, I probably didn't look my best. He had me doing crazy plyos and inverted sit-ups on an exercise ball, holding my legs.

Second of all, Jackie was the one who was doing the trash talking and Lisa chimed in. If you go to Bravo's site, she completely denies ever saying anything. She is extremely unprofessional. She never even acknowledged, not during or after the incident. That was my first and last time to ever train there. I only went on the show as a favor to Brian Peeler. To say that she didn't know who I was seems absurd since I had to sign off to even appear on the show. I do not have a trainer and haven't had one years. It is really unfortunate that they used that incident to fire Peeler.

Thank you to those who have shown their support on the site and on my myspace. I really appreciate it!"

http://askalesbian.blogspot.com/2008/05/ja...ian-peeler.html

In my opinion, if Bravo is going to have message boards, they should be prepared to take the bitter with the sweet. They're pleased to let viewers post when those viewers are happy with a show. They should let the same viewers post when they become unhappy. If Bravo's viewers love Jackie Warner, good for Bravo. When Jackie Warner becomes loathed, well, Bravo can take its lumps too. Hopefully, the relationship between Bravo and its viewers -- which predates Ms. Warner -- will also survive her disgraced television show and Bravo's ill-advised business relationship (which includes videos and merchandise). It is not in the network's long-term interest to alienate its own viewers, and apparently it has decided for the moment to choose Warner over them. That is regrettable, and will surely not be forgotten. Closing threads to silence criticism of a show, its star, or the network -- criticism earned by the show's own custom-edited content -- is petty and high-handed.

Wow, thanks! That's got to be the best olive branch I've ever received. And don't worry, you've never made me feel bad.

Something we missed!!!

According to Afterellen.com

Lisa was to busy Making fun of the way people danced with Parkinson's Disease...To conduct Peelers exit interview....

One more thing to add to this huge list of disrespect

WOW keep it coming folks... Just because they shut down one thread, doesn't mean we can't use the other threads to express our outrage!

I think this is kind of important... Jackie has been an example of extreme narcissism in the guise of helping others. She also has done so under the GLBT flag.. which definitely cannot afford more damage..

Just an interesting tid-bit. I went to the Workout homepage & you can't even click the link to any of Brovos message boards from there any more, so any new people like me (read computer dumb) that want to come on here for the first time won't be able to find us. I would not have known I could get here from other Brovo shows. I just kind of fell into it. Intresting....

I guess this is Bravo's idea of "damage control". Buy a vowel Bravo....the damage is done...cancel Work Out! It is the only way to show your viewers and sponsors that you do not condone Ms. Warner's disgusting behavior!

I just came here from the Work Out home page. Maybe there was a glitch.

Here is my 2 cents (Again)

Andy who is the creative force behind Workout was also the creative force behind Blowout & Flipping Out.

Blowout (Jonathan Anton) in know way did he or would he directly insulted anyone with an illness, physical appearance, the Gay Community or Celebrities (no matter how big or small. If any thing he was very concerned on his Image and all of his clients). I loved the show and his products....

Flipping Out, well I can only say he also is very concerned about his Image and we as Viewers knew how he would interact with his staff. He also is a big supporter of the Gay Community.

Workout season 1 & 2 although allot of the content was hard stomach at times it was still a good show... Season 3 (read all of my other post) seems as if they wanted to create more drama... One small problem you don't insult your viewers and attack people with Cancer, Parkinson's and physical impairment...

The star Jackie Warner all you have to do to see here real Public Life is go out in West Hollywood and read all of the press and the Links on these boards. She is no Role Model and her star has faded... Arrest, Assault (according too the National Enquirer). As for the Jamie situation, come on she signed a waver everyone in the Fitness Industry knows who she is...

Andy and Jackie should lose their JOBS and make amends with all parties involved.....

Hello again everyone (3 cents)

Visit laragmag.com

Afterellen.com

And Please e-mail Bravo over and over and over again...

I don't feel that JW can redeem herself. SHE HAS NO REDEEMABLE QUALITIES....

Speaking for myself of course and that is only my opinion...

Okay I know people have responded but I just wanted to say a couple of things.

(this goes to the tv producer also)

Jackie Warner was caught red handed making the comments and Lisa chiming in. This was verified by Jamie Eason's boyfriend who was the one who confronted Warner. This was all left out of the footage due to Rich not signing the waiver (they could have blurred out his face, but they could have showed the catty remarks prior to him walking in on them, but they chose to protect Warner). Lisa admitted to her part and apologized to Rich, Jamie and Peeler. Jackie Warner apologized to Rich because she was caught, she NEVER offered up an apology to Jamie, for her nasty comments or Peeler for embarrassing her on national television. When Peeler went into Jackie's office, he was calm and collected (but mad) the television camera doesn't lie. There was no screaming on Peeler's behalf and yet Jackie was caught red handed lying about that. Was Peeler right in saying what he said after he was unjustly fired for wanting to clear the air about what happened to his client?? In my opinion, yes, only because she said "get the eff out and take your client elsewhere!" when she already knew Jamie was a breast cancer survivor that she embarrassed and made fun of her. Jackie Warner is a well known trainer, Jamie Eason filled out a form to be on the show, Jackie not only knew she was going to be there, she pretended to not know her or her situation. Lisa's blog clearly states she was NOT the only one who was making remarks and that she just "chimed in" so that leaves Jackie. If Warner only had the couth to just say "hey I was wrong" and then apologize to Peeler and most importantly Jamie it would have been over and done with. We would have came here called her a few names for her catty remarks and moved on. Not only did she NOT offer up an apology, she shut out Peeler and for his part for sticking up for his client (who clearly asked him to) she thanked him by FIRING him and told him to get the EFF out and take his client elsewhere. Even in her blog she claims that she doesn't know who Jamie Eason is by calling her "Peeler's client" instead of her name. Gatorade knows this, they're not stupid and they're not going to be a part of this. One of you said "if she wasn't a breast cancer survivor this wouldn't be such a big issue" you're RIGHT!! We would still hate her for firing Peeler and stop watching the show, but not on the level we are now.

There is not enough creative editing in the world to have made that situation look anything else than what it was. It made it look better as a matter of fact for Warner, because if they air that footage of her and Lisa making those remarks, there's going to be even more backlash and (to the tv producer) if you don't know this you may want to learn it quickly so your shows don't cause such backlash and sponsors pull out. Do you think a major corporation like Gatorade would pull their advertisements and sponsorship because of creative editing? I hardly think so.

I respect both of your opinions, but I respectfully disagree with them.

PS, If you watched only 1 second of footage of workout and saw Peeler with his clients then you would have to agree that he is 100% inspiring and respectful no matter the size. Go have a look at Gregg's blog about his client Deenie combined with what him and Jackie had to say, they deserve to lose all their clients. Peeler would be someone to watch if you want to get in shape and to watch him take so much care in his clients and not be disrespectful. So no need to pull them lovely eyelashes out

Man they cannot close forum topics fast enough to shut us all up.

Hey Bravo, how about a nice cold bottle of Propel?

Oh wait.... nevermind.

Okay correct me if I am wrong, but weren't there like 27 pages of comments just an hour ago?

Andy finally blogged today, and suprise, no mention of the Workout episode or black lash. They are probally wringing their hands at Bravo to wait for the increase in ratings for tomorrow night's episode, and then back to business as usual.

I wonder if they did some editing or new interviews to paint a kinder gentler Jackie, I won't know since I won't be tuning in.


Was Peeler a saint every second of his air time for the past three seasons? No. But he was human and did show growth over the past three years. Yes. He was the one who tried to do the mudrun knowing cardio isn't his thing, but to bond. He also was the one to admit, when Greg came this year he thought it was to goad him, but he also admitted he instead became a close friend. Notice Greg tried to chime in on what went down the night before because Peeler called him.

The Bravo reality shows may have some scripting invovled, but the dynamics between the participants is real, just watch a the NYC Housewives reunion show to see the arguments are real and feelings really do get hurt.

Jackie when doing the press for this season, gleefully hinted at changes in staff and didn't come across like she had any regrets. She thought the firing of Peeler would just be another clip on the highlight reel of this year's show.

We are all human and make mistakes, it's the ability to own up to them and make good on them that seperates decent people from ego manics. Again, an acknolegment on any level would have done so much damage controll. As much as I don't care for Lisa, my issue isn't with her becasue she did own up to her part of it. Too bad Jackie and Bravo couldn't do the same.

I do think it's only a matter of time before what was said is made public.

BTW this is now on Jossip and gawker- 2 online gossip sites.

http://gawker.com/5008571/sponsor-drops-wo...ative-icon+gate

http://www.jossip.com/jackie-warner-to-be-...dated-20080512/

loved jossip site... thanks