Jackie has a 1/2 brother who is 10 yrs younger than her. Same mom different dad.

SIUAD-Step it up and dance, another show

It was just the "editing"!
(isn't that what is always said?!!!)
(Let's ask Greg!)

Here, here Kari Ana! But I am curious about the comercials and what sponsors it had.

You know we Texans have to like Ranch (with everything)!!

That was pretty gross. I felt bad for Jackie's mom, I really hope Jackie didn't do it for the ratings, but you never know. It was kind of boring. The best part was Gregg B on stage!

Greg P or Greg with dreads? I'm assuming from the post that someone got racked? Ouch!

Mommakelly...how many kids are home for the summer? Is it hot in Abileen? It is hot and humid here in Big D. I've washed the deck and now have to wait two hours for it to dry then put another coat of stain on it. This week is going to 95-100 ALL week. Yuck. Maybe while I'm waiting for the deck to dry I'll scan the commercials of Work Out and see who advertised. I only saw the promo's for this past week's show, I didn't see it so I can't comment on the show.

I wonder if Jackie has ever taken her mother to see her counselor with her? That would be interesting to see. I would watch that. I do have to say, I am curious about the cell phone incident coming up this week. I know she and Brianna are no longer together now and Jackie, I read, is back with Mimi but I do wonder what happened.

Greg Plitt. Poor man. He really took one for the team, so to speak.

Sorry it took me so long to reply, I went back up to get a bit more of the sun before the storms came in.

Pleased to meet you I understand your confusion as to who you are, as for the past few days I too was a bit disorientated as to whether I was me or Liam. I decided I liked myself enough to stay with me, no offense of course to Liam.

As for Jackie's mom visit, all she should of done was ask Rhianna and her parents to stay at a hotel and make arrangements to meet up for dinner. Then she should of told her mom that they were in town and wanted to meet her for dinner and asked her to join them. It was then up to her mom whether to accept for not.

It's not like this was a normal meeting of the significant other and parents, this was a situation of overcoming the estrangement between mother and daughter. At any time two families are thrown together over partners, there's going to be a lot of nervousness. I mean, I near got myself drunk before meeting my husband's parents. I can't even imagine combining that with having to deal with an estranged family thrown into the pot as well. I for sure would of completed my getting drunk.

It was just very insensitive and was almost like Jackie was making sure it was a complete failure, but that doesn't surprise me when we're discussing Jackie in the scenario.

Hey SOB...you animal you! Been a slow weekend huh? I guess we'll get back on track after the episode on Tues.

Kind of slow in here , Everyone must be outside due to the nice weather... See ya later..

Usually when I am hooked on a television show I have a lot of issues

about not watching it. Even this one I didn't delete the next episode

until about one hour before it aired. Since that decision I have no

regrets. I suppose I was so sickened by episodes one, two, and three,

that I just didn't wish to see more. I also had a really bad feeling about

how Brian Peeler was going to be eventually portrayed and that

happened just two episodes later. I figure a lot of what we saw in

regards to how so many people treated Brian that night, whether true

or not, it was very much staged. If the producers don't get the

scene they wish for they can and will make it all up and shoot it

without the people involved. This is sort of why them not showing

any part of the incident that was the last straw for so many of us

meant that even Jackie was incapable of getting herself together

enough to even shoot a second bit of conversation to fix the problem.

Think of it, they showed NOTHING?!! Maybe miss snitch refused to

reshoot with her being the instigator, bad enough she had to say she

was the one. I am beginning to wonder if it is possible that Bravo

owned by conservative GE maybe decided to do a bit of unfair stuff

and then show it. Who knows, BTW-how interesting is it that after

NBC purchased Bravo that the Kenmore Kitchen became GE???????

Maybe we should see what NBC owns and go after GE. I prefer

Whirlpool and Kenmore to GE or any of the other appliances. I am also

confused as to why so many people LOVE stainless?? Yeah, it looks

good, but how about how difficult it it to keep it looking good? You

have to buy special stuff. Of course you can make your own baking

soda stuff but if you aren't good at it you just get smeared stainless

appliances. BTW-does anyone know how to make an old stainless

sink look new without purchasing new stainless sink?

I didn't mean to veer off into diffiferent subject but the GE and stuff

got me talking stainless.

Kari Ana

Hey NiCi....don't think I can stay up much longer...not much sleep last night....hope I don't miss anything.

Kari Ana...I think GE owns NBC/Rockerfeller Plaza...I THINK!! but I'm not for sure. I like stainless but am very anal about prints and stuff and am constantly wiping stuff off....

Hi all, thanks for the kind words in my defense of my defense (hmmm?) Just got back from a long weekend of cage fighting. Loved it! Now I can't wait till tuesday to see why jackie is looking in briana's phone. I'm hooked on that!!

Only one kid for summer and he will be going to visit dad in OK soon. It is hot, it was over 100 today!! And the wind blows all the time so it feels like a blow dryer.
I don't get the feeling that Jackie and her mom have been to counseling but I do think it would be a good idea especially if Jackie is her true self. I just can't believe that Mimi would go back to Jackie after all the crap Jackie talked about her last season!

Hello Liam!! Hope all is well with you!

I wonder what happened as well, but my theory (and you know I have an inordainate amount of theories), is that JW was seeing Mimi (on the side) all along. That she never really stopped seeing Mimi (despite what she might have told her counselor). You know her predisposition to "taking on too much" and feeling "overwhelmed" etc., I theorize that part of her "being overwhelmed" has something to do with the fact that she was hiding the fact that she was seeing Mimi, and worried that Briana (and everyone else) would find out. Disception can be so waring on the soul...

Gypsy in FL

Actually, it's not a bad theory at all. Jackie and Mimi have a long history behind them and I don't think it's ever been fully resolved.

Adding an edit or question: How are we sure that Jackie and Briana are done? I obviously missed all that since I've not been watching the show.

I think that info was picked up from other sources like myspace. Must have happened after filming the episodes that have been aired thus far.

Larceny, is it just incredibly hot up there? By 8:00 am here today it was just yuck! Like walking into a plastic bag.

BTW:
There are still pics of Briana on JW's blog...not updated since May 20.

I was at the Dinah Shore week again this year and Brianna was there.(She was also there last year, I think with Jackie). I heard that she and Jackie had split and then on Jackie's MySpace, Mimi is back up in the top 10 and Brianna is not. Brianna did part of the fashion show at the Dinah and the crowds went NUTS. She is pretty hot. (For those that don't know what the Dinah Shore week is, it is suppose to be a golf tournament, the first major for the LPGA of the year, but for Lesbians...it is a LONG weekend of fun, drinking, events, lots of celebrities from LWord, Donte's Cove, great singers...etc.) Most who go to the weekend don't go for the golf but I do and have been for many years.

Hey fg...did you get some sleep? I finished the deck and was SOOOO tired. It was hot and humid but sometimes a girls gotta do what a girls gotta do. Have you recovered from Rambo yet?

Yes, I went out before 10:00 pm...I'm not sure I have fully recovered from the images of Sylvester Stallone running half naked through the jungle just yet.

That is funny !! Is school still going or are ya'll done?

DrB....let me explain the high level of testosterone in my house at all times. I am the only girl here, remember, well except for Liddy my cocker....beginning at 8:00 pm last night my son and 5 of his friends gathered on the pool deck to watch a pay per view WWE match...kill me...I isolated myself and Liddy in my bedroom

Last day of school is Weds...and since I work out of my house for the most part...I am a little terrified at what the Summer may have in store for me.

I was glad to see Kiasmoma posted last night. I was really worried about her after the "storm" the other night. That has to be scarey to have someone google search you and then use stuff to attack you and call you things just to discredit you. I was scared for her.

OMG...it literally sickened and alarmed me. What kind of a freak job would even think of that?

I have an office here at the house as well. The bonus room over the garage we had them make it an office with stairs on the outside so clients don't have to go into the house. I can go down the back stairs into the kitchen but I really didn't want clients trekking through the house.

I have a grief group for kids that starts every two months and the last group finishes this Thursday. School is out here on Wed also.

Maybe the lack of testosterone in our house is why Morris attacks me every once in a while. Maybe he is jut asserting his masculinity...just a thought.

Maybe we should switch pets...Liddy is very girlie and Morris could hang with the guys...you would have the chore of breaking that to Alex.

Wish me good luck with that one...it will never happen. We had a cocker for years but she died a few years ago and I really felt like I had lost a member of my family. We got her right after my sister had her first baby and Millie thought she was a person. She wouldn't get her feet wet, if it was raining she literally would not go out and would hold it until the rain stopped. She was such a girlie girl. She would sit on a chair at the table and just watch us eat. She wouldn't try to get on the table. She would just sit there. Al usually drives when we go on trips and Mill would sit on her left leg and watch out the window like she was helping to drive or something. She was the best!!!

My Liddy is a person too...my male cocker needs to come to your house for some professional attention however. He is a complete psycho! He only likes my husband...he tolerates me because I feed him. We actually had to buy a camper because we couldn't kennel him for vacations...he would get so depressed and refuse to eat or drink...that the vet would call us and tell us she had started an IV. So now we camp...and he loves it...Liddy stays with my parents because she WILL NOT poop on a leash.

Morning Gypsy...hot enough for you? Ugghhhhh

Hey Gypsy...I would hope not but then again nothing surprises me too much with Jackie. I don't think I could handle it if someone bite me. Nor would I do well if Alex decided to "date around" to see if there was something better out there.

I remember thinking in the first episode of this year when Jackie said she and Brianna moved in together the first day they went out that this relationship will never last.

No you need to call the dog whisperer. I don't do no animals. But speaking of professional help...I have to run. Clients all day back to back and then a group tonight. First mondays of the month KILL me. Italy can't get here soon enough. I'll check in later.

JC you SOB...shall I make room in my schedule today for you? I have time between 2-4? Just let me know, we could do phone counseling. LOL! Enjoy the desert heat today...YUCK!!

It's supposed to be very hot here today, 95 or so. I'll be heading outside for some pool time soon

I know, I was horrified that anyone would do that to another. As I said earlier, I was humbled on how classy she was in responding to the attacks. It's amazing to me how downright nasty some can be to others for their own "amusement".

Yep me too...it's a half day for the kids so I'd better do it before they get home...I don't go in with a bunch of teenage boys...way too rough for me. I like to just float around on my tube and relax.

Hi Dr. B, How are things on your end of the universe?
They do say "hindsight is 20/20", so in light of this season, it makes me re-assess my opinion of Mimi and Jackie's relationship (to some extent), not really in a favorable way, though. I suppose I bought the "Jackie is the abused one in this relationship". However, now my opinion is that they're both very disfunctional. The "biting" thing didn't hit me so much as the "hot latin temper" as the evidence of an immature peronality. Jackie seems drawn to that--as demonstrated by her infatuation with Brianna. I don't know the circumstances of their break-up, but , I suspect Brianna will had done something that Jackie deams "inappropriate" and feels victimized by.

Gypsy in FL

Kids are out of school. But today was the first day of Summer workouts for high school football!! Poor boy, he looked whooped when I picked him up!
Supposed to be 100 today here!
Hope all is well with everyone.

I bet you are correct in the victim situation with Jackie. Unfortunately some people get on that merry go round of toxic relationships and just can't find their way out. I did notice that Mimi is Jackies #2 on Myspace and Jackie is Mimi's #2 on hers.

c.k says:

I’m a client at sky sport and have been for close to 8 months. I have watched Lisa run the show when Jackie had no one- I mean no one. I must come to her defense because I see a sadness in her eyes and that she is holding back. Jackie has not said one word to me- even when i said hello. she walks around with her ugly nose in the air. Lisa did not say anythiing ugly about jamie. Its a well known fact that Jackie was talking [expletive deleted] about Jamie Eason and lisa just chimed in (AS Jamie Eason said in her bodybuilding.com statement. My trainer who I will not mention knows everything and that none of it was filmed and the talk included a member of bravos crew. The production filmed jackie and lisa’s scene weeks later. Lisa is fun, radiant and relates to everyone in the gym and I have seen her there late to the point where she is about to pass out from being tired. Jackie relies on her to run the gym and medical part and she does. She is on her feet all day and has not missed a beat. I can’t say enough about her level of class and maturity. She didnt have to apologize because NONE of it was ever filmed, but she did unlike jackie who blamed her. I do feel bad because she was really excited when they asked her to be on the show. What was horrible was most of it was scripted. From her listening to the phone convo with peeler and telling jackie to everything. I saw how they taped a scence over and over again. I will never watch the show but I can vouch for probaly everyone at the gym, Lisa still takes pride in her job and never misses a beat even when she had surgery. As one blog prior said, lisa and peeler are still friends to this date. I really don’t think that peeler would hang out if she said something bad. This has jackies nasty paw prints on it and she should apologize to Lisa and Jamie.
There was nothing to address with Lisa because it was Jackie and another girl in the room who talked ALL of the trash.
Eventually, evertything will come to an end for all of them because jackie is a liar and insecure.
As much as I love lisa - she should resign and work for someone who appreciates her hard work. Every trainer loves her and they gather in her office and stay away from Jackie.because she is so fake. Look at bravos website. Jackie wont even write a blog probably because she is feeling guilty. Everyone that goes to that gym knows she is fake. The only reason I stay is because have an injury and my insurance pays for it and I have the best trainer in the world.
Shame on you jackie.

This was on LARAGMAG site.

With all due respect DrB and Larceny, I settled the matter with Kia. Clearly, you didn't read through all of the posts. I hope you'll take the time to do so.

Regarding the letter from the "supposed" client at SkySport^^. The same person has posted the same letter on several other boards. When she was quickly discredited by several people, he/she attempted to make adjustments to the letter. It's so old now.

NOW-Can we talk about the show? I like the discussion about Jackie being addicted to toxic relationships. I totally agree. She is back with Mimi. I'm sure on some level Mimi offers Jackie that comfort of chaos. As screwed up is that is, we all know someone just like that. They recreate their past and their pain because it's comforting even if it's destructive. That's why I suggested EMDR. I haven't done EMDR but the people I work with swear by it. They say it breaks those sorts of patterns almost instantly. Again, I'm not a psychologist. Just repeating what I've heard. I'd love to have DrB's input on EMDR. I find it very interesting but must admit that it scares me a bit.

Please read my final post to Kiasmama. Thank you.

YIKES!..just had a major thunderstorm move through which caused a power outage! I'm back up now.

Morning Fgnelson,
UGGHHHH! You said it! It's so humid outside it's like sucking a mop!
I don't think I saw outside all weekend. You know the whole it's "Summertime, lets all go out for a picnic" thing? I've lived in Florida since 1965, and still the summer heat is daunting to me.
I have a friend who lives in a community and she invited me over to go swimming. She told me the pool is "heated" and I said "Why?".
Anyway, how are you surviving the summer heat?
Gypsy in Melbourne

Just for fun, here's another version of the same letter. What's amazing to me is that these "supposed" clients of SkySport can't spell or make a coherent argument beyond that of an angry adolescent. Not poking fun at you Momma! Just the letter in general.

I'll include the argument that went back and forth between someone and Daniel. But for the LOVE of GOD, this whole thing is like a dog chasing its tail but far less interesting.


From AskaLesbian-

From Anonymous:

I'm a client at sky sport and I wrote on another blog hoping to get heard.
Jackie made derogatory comments, not lisa. lisa apologized for making a comment but it wasnt mean.
The footage of jackie and lisa talking was filmed weeks later and they were instructed on what to say. The editors pieced it all together to make it look like they were taking about brian and client. The actual conversation was between started by jackie and a member of production in jackies office and lisa chimed in not saying anything bad. There is no footage on camera bc cameras were not present. The boyfriend entered room and told the 3 of them who jamie is. Lisa apologized for making any comment and tried to apologize for jackie. He wanted apology from jackie- herself. Jackie refused and has for the past 5/6 months- this was filmed in Nov or Dec 2007. In the interview w/ lisa, she apologized for comment even after boyfrind, jamie and peeler accepted apology . She couldve denied everything bc nothing was ever filmed. That scence that jackie and lisa are laughing & The firing scene was filmed a day later-notice how peeler doesnt mention lisa. jackie blamed lisa in her interview and evrywhere else because she is a low class woman, Lisa was never fired or talked to bc she never did anything wrong. Jamie Eason has personally stated that jackie did all the trash talking. Lisa is still friends with brian, which is even more obvious that she didnt do anything wrong or offensive. Even the part where she pretends to be listening to brian talking to the fund raise guy was scripted and the part where she tells jackie was scripted. None of it was real. I personally was there the day lisa and erika were talking in gym. Both were uncomfortable bc they were told what to say and couldnt be normal bc they are friends in real life. All of that greg plitt talk was fake to set up for the photo shoot. fake fake fake! Production people and jackie are scambling bc lisa told the truth. jackie puts all of the balme and pressure on lisa all of the time. Jackie has gone through at least 3 personal assistants and she doesnt even have one now bc no one can deal with her lies and rude behavior. I have been there for over 8 months and jackie is never at gym and never even says hello to me or any one unless she wants attention, lisa is there all day everyday w/a smile & hugs even when she is tired. She always walks in gym and says hello when she comes in. From what I see she is a perfectionist that isnt perfect- without her, jackie wouuld crumble. jackie bashed jamie and brian and never made any comments about breast cancer but she apologized for even making harmless comments. I'm proud of her and eventhough she is a joy and turned sky sport around in a postive way- something jackie hasnt been able to do in years. I will not be watching the show bc it doesnt show the trainers or lisa in the positve light that I see them everyday, but it shows jackies nasty, ungrateful way.

Responses:

Daniel said... This blog should be renamed Ask an ignorant, self-hating, shameless lesbian. It’s like I’m reading from freerepublic.com. I know most gay people put more effort into defending straight people but this is ridiculous. Gay people wonder why there are not more gay celebrities out of the closet this is the reason why, NO SUPPORT!!!

I will refute every lie this supposed “client” said.

First, as far as we can tell no one else was in the gym when Brian was training Jaime Eason.

Second, the scene where Jackie and Lisa are talking was filmed at the same time Brian and Jaime were training. Look at the footage of Jackie handing Lisa a SkySport t-shirt to give to Brian. Everyone has the same hair cuts, makeup, clothes, and accessories on in every shot. It's even the same time of day, night.

Here is the footage of the whole thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnoDI2QsvmA

Third, Jaime Eason was not in the room when Lisa made the comments.

Forth, this occurred in 2008 NOT 2007. The San Diego Mud Run happened on April 13th 2008. As we all know that preceded the breast implant comments.

Fifth, Jackie did not refuse to apologize. As Jackie said in her confessional “nobody wants to hurt someone’s feelings.” Don't you think Jaime Eason's boyfriend would have made a scene if he didn't get what he wanted, he wasn't afraid to confront them? Brian and Jaime could see into the office. Obviously things were settled peacefully because Brian and Jaime didn't know what happened until well after. When Jackie was giving the trainers their uniforms earlier this season Greg Plitt voiced his opinion. Jackie wanted to talk about it later but he continued and she ended up letting him wear the uniform his way. There are many instances where Jackie was lenient including keeping Brian Peeler even after repeated acts of disrespect and insubordination. Some anti-gay bigots are trying to paint her as a domineering person because that fits the stereotype of butch lesbians (you know the bullying bull d*ke).

Sixth, Lisa did admit to making the comments and said she felt like “the lowest piece of crap on the earth.”

This SUPPOSED “client” seems to be around whenever there is a camera on. What were the trainers like on the Olivia cruise and the mud run? Surely you were at both places.

I think I’m going to walk away from this blog since you clearly are self-hating and want to bring down Jackie Warner. Yes, you can be openly gay and do all the supportive stuff and still be self-hating. There is plenty of research on gay self-hatred. Anti-gay bigots can’t stand that she fired Brian Peeler (a straight male) and is successful. Anti-gay bigots have repeatedly tried to bring down lesbians in power. This time it's not going to work because unlike most gay people I know what's happening and I am not afraid to talk.

Anonymous said... To Daniel--the clip from the show in no way proves there was no editing--not even close.

Whether the client's account is accurate, I don't know, but the clip provides no evidence against it at all.

The weight of evidence seems to suggest Jackie did make such comments, and she could have saved her image and her show by actually apologizing, not throwing an employee under the bus and saying that she was blameless.

I think the majority of the straight and gay community agree her behavior throughout this episode was and remains deplorable.




Daniel said... Jackie didn't fire Brian Peeler for just this one moment. This just happened to be the final straw. As Jackie implied when she talked to Brian's boot camp client he constantly undermined her. She gave him tons of chances. Remember last season when he almost got fired?

No, the evidence suggests that Jackie and Lisa did settle things with Jaime's boyfriend. Even Brian as he was arguing with Jackie said "you might have handled it with her boyfriend..." Brian was not Jaime Eason's trainer. She came there as a favor. Remember Jackie asked who she was? Brian didn’t care about the comments he just wanted to confront Jackie for the millionth time. As we will see in next week’s episode he confronts her again. The guy is a hanger on.

Anonymous #2 give me a break! So that whole thing was reenacted? Jaime and her boyfriend decided to come back months later so they could talk about her breast implants on film? Stop with the conspiracy theories. The breast implant comments were settled with Jaime’s boyfriend. Brian Peeler getting fired was fair and just.

Sunday, May 18, 2008 Anonymous said... sorry to bust your bubble, look at each frame clearly. lisa is wearing 2 diffrent black shirts and then within seconds of firing peeler-she has a blast wristband and a creme top w/a blue top undernearth. It did take place Nov 2007on with short sleeves. also, filming ended dec 2007. I'm a client, so I know when they posted signs to let us know that filming would be on that day. Once again- get your facts then comment- the scene with jackie and lisa was not filmed because there was another person in the room. A member of BRAVO- so of course there is no footage. DUHHHH!
No one hates lesbian/gays and now someone who is probably a jackie worshipper is pulling the bigot card. Sorry- a bigot is against a race - not sexual orientation... get your facts from someone who was there then blog.
Jamies boyfriend confronted all three of them- Lisa being the only one to apologize. She also personally apologized to Jamie several days later AFTER the boyfriend told Jamie what happened. They NEVER show the boyfriend and never show jamie unless she is training. Think how great it would be to film jamie and her bf leaving after the fiasco, but because she left with no clue what went on. Lisa walking in handing peeler a shirt and jackie firing peeler happened on the same day first week in NOV 2007. The clip of lisa and jackie smiling and laughing has no Audio- hmmm wonder why? just her smiling and jackie voiceover. Then take a good look at her shirt when she asked ? re: peeler client- they both look different. It's a puzzle and a mess that only the people that were there know.




<A name=c7534176390094537783>Daniel said... Anonymous #3 are you an idiot or what? Brian Peeler was fired the next day. That's why Lisa has a different top on. DUH!!!! Can't you see that it's nighttime when Brian is training Jaime Eason and daytime when he gets fired? Brian Peeler in his confessional "next morning I wake up."

A bigot is someone who is intolerant of a group that differs from his or her own.

Anonymous #4 no I am not saying Jaime Eason or her boyfriend are liars. I am saying the people that posted FAKE messages pretending to be Jaime Eason or a Skysport client are liars. That bodybuilding.com message you are referring to is a fake.

I wanna know how these supposed "clients" see everything yet we never see them on camera. These "clients" are at SkySport so much they should take up residence.

Correction: Brian Peeler was fired in the fall of 2007.