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QUOTE (Gypsyohara @ June 2, 2008 - 01:39 PM) *
Morning Fgnelson,
UGGHHHH! You said it! It's so humid outside it's like sucking a mop!
I don't think I saw outside all weekend. You know the whole it's "Summertime, lets all go out for a picnic" thing? I've lived in Florida since 1965, and still the summer heat is daunting to me.
I have a friend who lives in a community and she invited me over to go swimming. She told me the pool is "heated" and I said "Why?".
Anyway, how are you surviving the summer heat?
Gypsy in Melbourne

Ya know Gypsy...I don't know whether it's because I'm getting older now or what...but I just don't seem to be tolerating the heat as well anymore. That having been said though, I don't tolerate the cold either...if it gets below 55 degrees..I get cranky!
KariAna
Don't feel like the lone ranger. My kitty attacked me last night. It was

horrible. I don't get why he will suddenly become so angry and just

attack, attack, attack. He puts his front paws around my ankles and

then bites. It would be horrible if he used his entire jaw strength

because then I'd have huge holes in my legs. He isn't playing because

he is clearly angry. I had to pick him up and hold him close to calm him

down. Talk about a scary thing to do when being attacked but there

is no other way to stop him. I wonder what it was about last night

that you kitty attacked you and my kitty attacked me?

Kari Ana


QUOTE (DrB @ June 2, 2008 - 09:20 AM) *
Maybe the lack of testosterone in our house is why Morris attacks me every once in a while. Maybe he is jut asserting his masculinity...just a thought. rolleyes.gif
Jack123
My Lady Puerto Rico shines in the sun this week on Top Chef!

She's so beautiful! Yes yes yes, we have our problems. A cause close to my heart is the humane treatment of dogs and cats. All animals actually. If you would like a place to channel that lovely energy of yours, please go here:

http://www.animalconcerns.org/external.htm...91420510.761245

Many a gato saved my soul in my times of darkness. I show my love and gratitude by giving as much back as possible. Of course, it's not just the cats. It's the dogs too. Education and money are lacking in many areas and unfortunately, the animals suffer because of this!

Now back to Bravo. In honor of Top Chef and My lady, I offer you these words of wisdom from my favorite closeted Puerto Rican hero!

Hola amigo, Hola amigo
You're my temple of desire
We'll go around the world in a day
Don't say no, no
Shake it my way, oh
Shake your bon-bon
Shake your bon-bon
Shake your bon-bon
Larceny
QUOTE (Jack123 @ June 2, 2008 - 01:14 PM) *
With all due respect DrB and Larceny, I settled the matter with Kia. Clearly, you didn't read through all of the posts. I hope you'll take the time to do so.


Actually, I wasn't referring to you at all, I was referring to the comments made by Chefdaddy and Ilovegoldenretrievers. I saw that you had specifically posted to Kia and you feel you cleared all that up. I'm sorry that you took it personally, never occurred to me you'd do that since it wasn't even a thought I had.

Edit: Just realized you probably thought maybe we were referring to you because of the "googling" comment. I was coming from the fact that the two I listed were using YOU as their argument, and throwing what you had discovered in Kia's face. I was coming from their actions, not your's; in that particular response.

Although, I will admit, your goggling Kia and then posting what you found was pretty darn cruel; and it was your actions that Chef and Ilove used against her in a very cruel way. I understand you feel you have worked that out with Kia, but I can't understand why it occurred in the first place.
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What's up Alex...kinda quiet today smile.gif
KariAna
How can Jackie think that it is acceptable for her to disrespect people,

be rude to people, interrupt boot camps, sleep with employees and then

make their lives miserable after they move on, and everyone else must

always be perfect. The double standard is unfair whether you are the

boss or the employee. People should be treated with respect. Not

everything is about discrimination. I LOVED Jackie Warner until this

season. My feelings have nothing to do with her sexual orientation.

To show what I mean, until Jackie allowed her Mother to come all the

way to California and didn't tell her she had live in girlfriend and then

expected her to be fine, and then when she isn't fine Jackie blames her

Mother. What kind of daughter does that? I can see if Jackie's Mother

was okay with Jackie's lifestyle but there is such a thing as respecting

your parents. It is one thing when it is someone who is just a friend.

It is another when the person is your Mother, you KNOW she

disapproves with your lifestyle and then you spring your new lover

living with you. There is so much discrimination and anti everything type

groups out there. You don't have to come to a group of people who

are not discriminating against anyone and accuse them of it being all

about anti gay. Had you simply gone through the posts and read them

without a prejudged opinion, you'd have saved yourself quite a bit of

trouble. We all wanted this show to be on the air. We all loved this

show. Then Season Three began. I am so disappointed. I feel Jackie

defrauded all of us in regards to her caring for the clients and trainers.

In season two there were a couple of times when the narcissist Jackie

showed through a bit. I personally disregarded it because I liked her

so much. I didn't want to see the rude person we had stuffed down

out throats this season. If you wish to blame anyone blame Jackie

Warner for believing she is above everyone else. Everytime I have ever

made mistakes in my life I have made amends and tried to figure out how

I got to where I was and work hard to never get back to that place.

It is one thing to have some issues and have to deal with them honestly

and rightly. It is another to keep making the same mistake over and

over again and then wonder why things keep messing up. Jackie made

her own bed and she can lie in it for all I care. I am so disappointed

by her conduct. I just don't care anymore about what happens to

Jackie Warner. She has lost me as a viewer forever.

Kari Ana



QUOTE (Jack123 @ June 2, 2008 - 12:41 PM) *
Just for fun, here's another version of the same letter. What's amazing to me is that these "supposed" clients of SkySport can't spell or make a coherent argument beyond that of an angry adolescent. tongue.gif Not poking fun at you Momma! Just the letter in general. wink.gif

I'll include the argument that went back and forth between someone and Daniel. But for the LOVE of GOD, this whole thing is like a dog chasing its tail but far less interesting.


From AskaLesbian-

From Anonymous:

I'm a client at sky sport and I wrote on another blog hoping to get heard.
Jackie made derogatory comments, not lisa. lisa apologized for making a comment but it wasnt mean.
The footage of jackie and lisa talking was filmed weeks later and they were instructed on what to say. The editors pieced it all together to make it look like they were taking about brian and client. The actual conversation was between started by jackie and a member of production in jackies office and lisa chimed in not saying anything bad. There is no footage on camera bc cameras were not present. The boyfriend entered room and told the 3 of them who jamie is. Lisa apologized for making any comment and tried to apologize for jackie. He wanted apology from jackie- herself. Jackie refused and has for the past 5/6 months- this was filmed in Nov or Dec 2007. In the interview w/ lisa, she apologized for comment even after boyfrind, jamie and peeler accepted apology . She couldve denied everything bc nothing was ever filmed. That scence that jackie and lisa are laughing & The firing scene was filmed a day later-notice how peeler doesnt mention lisa. jackie blamed lisa in her interview and evrywhere else because she is a low class woman, Lisa was never fired or talked to bc she never did anything wrong. Jamie Eason has personally stated that jackie did all the trash talking. Lisa is still friends with brian, which is even more obvious that she didnt do anything wrong or offensive. Even the part where she pretends to be listening to brian talking to the fund raise guy was scripted and the part where she tells jackie was scripted. None of it was real. I personally was there the day lisa and erika were talking in gym. Both were uncomfortable bc they were told what to say and couldnt be normal bc they are friends in real life. All of that greg plitt talk was fake to set up for the photo shoot. fake fake fake! Production people and jackie are scambling bc lisa told the truth. jackie puts all of the balme and pressure on lisa all of the time. Jackie has gone through at least 3 personal assistants and she doesnt even have one now bc no one can deal with her lies and rude behavior. I have been there for over 8 months and jackie is never at gym and never even says hello to me or any one unless she wants attention, lisa is there all day everyday w/a smile & hugs even when she is tired. She always walks in gym and says hello when she comes in. From what I see she is a perfectionist that isnt perfect- without her, jackie wouuld crumble. jackie bashed jamie and brian and never made any comments about breast cancer but she apologized for even making harmless comments. I'm proud of her and eventhough she is a joy and turned sky sport around in a postive way- something jackie hasnt been able to do in years. I will not be watching the show bc it doesnt show the trainers or lisa in the positve light that I see them everyday, but it shows jackies nasty, ungrateful way.
Responses:

Daniel said... This blog should be renamed Ask an ignorant, self-hating, shameless lesbian. It's like I'm reading from freerepublic.com. I know most gay people put more effort into defending straight people but this is ridiculous. Gay people wonder why there are not more gay celebrities out of the closet this is the reason why, NO SUPPORT!!!

I will refute every lie this supposed "client" said.

First, as far as we can tell no one else was in the gym when Brian was training Jaime Eason.

Second, the scene where Jackie and Lisa are talking was filmed at the same time Brian and Jaime were training. Look at the footage of Jackie handing Lisa a SkySport t-shirt to give to Brian. Everyone has the same hair cuts, makeup, clothes, and accessories on in every shot. It's even the same time of day, night.

Here is the footage of the whole thing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnoDI2QsvmA

Third, Jaime Eason was not in the room when Lisa made the comments.

Forth, this occurred in 2008 NOT 2007. The San Diego Mud Run happened on April 13th 2008. As we all know that preceded the breast implant comments.

Fifth, Jackie did not refuse to apologize. As Jackie said in her confessional "nobody wants to hurt someone's feelings." Don't you think Jaime Eason's boyfriend would have made a scene if he didn't get what he wanted, he wasn't afraid to confront them? Brian and Jaime could see into the office. Obviously things were settled peacefully because Brian and Jaime didn't know what happened until well after. When Jackie was giving the trainers their uniforms earlier this season Greg Plitt voiced his opinion. Jackie wanted to talk about it later but he continued and she ended up letting him wear the uniform his way. There are many instances where Jackie was lenient including keeping Brian Peeler even after repeated acts of disrespect and insubordination. Some anti-gay bigots are trying to paint her as a domineering person because that fits the stereotype of butch lesbians (you know the bullying bull d*ke).

Sixth, Lisa did admit to making the comments and said she felt like "the lowest piece of crap on the earth."

This SUPPOSED "client" seems to be around whenever there is a camera on. What were the trainers like on the Olivia cruise and the mud run? Surely you were at both places.

I think I'm going to walk away from this blog since you clearly are self-hating and want to bring down Jackie Warner. Yes, you can be openly gay and do all the supportive stuff and still be self-hating. There is plenty of research on gay self-hatred. Anti-gay bigots can't stand that she fired Brian Peeler (a straight male) and is successful. Anti-gay bigots have repeatedly tried to bring down lesbians in power. This time it's not going to work because unlike most gay people I know what's happening and I am not afraid to talk.

Anonymous said... sorry to bust your bubble, look at each frame clearly. lisa is wearing 2 diffrent black shirts and then within seconds of firing peeler-she has a blast wristband and a creme top w/a blue top undernearth. It did take place Nov 2007on with short sleeves. also, filming ended dec 2007. I'm a client, so I know when they posted signs to let us know that filming would be on that day. Once again- get your facts then comment- the scene with jackie and lisa was not filmed because there was another person in the room. A member of BRAVO- so of course there is no footage. DUHHHH!
No one hates lesbian/gays and now someone who is probably a jackie worshipper is pulling the bigot card. Sorry- a bigot is against a race - not sexual orientation... get your facts from someone who was there then blog.
Jamies boyfriend confronted all three of them- Lisa being the only one to apologize. She also personally apologized to Jamie several days later AFTER the boyfriend told Jamie what happened. They NEVER show the boyfriend and never show jamie unless she is training. Think how great it would be to film jamie and her bf leaving after the fiasco, but because she left with no clue what went on. Lisa walking in handing peeler a shirt and jackie firing peeler happened on the same day first week in NOV 2007. The clip of lisa and jackie smiling and laughing has no Audio- hmmm wonder why? just her smiling and jackie voiceover. Then take a good look at her shirt when she asked ? re: peeler client- they both look different. It's a puzzle and a mess that only the people that were there know.




<A name=c7534176390094537783>Daniel said... Anonymous #3 are you an idiot or what? Brian Peeler was fired the next day. That's why Lisa has a different top on. DUH!!!! Can't you see that it's nighttime when Brian is training Jaime Eason and daytime when he gets fired? Brian Peeler in his confessional "next morning I wake up."

A bigot is someone who is intolerant of a group that differs from his or her own.

Anonymous #4 no I am not saying Jaime Eason or her boyfriend are liars. I am saying the people that posted FAKE messages pretending to be Jaime Eason or a Skysport client are liars. That bodybuilding.com message you are referring to is a fake.

I wanna know how these supposed "clients" see everything yet we never see them on camera. These "clients" are at SkySport so much they should take up residence.

Correction: Brian Peeler was fired in the fall of 2007.
Larceny
QUOTE (KariAna @ June 2, 2008 - 02:10 PM) *
I LOVED Jackie Warner until this season. My feelings have nothing to do with her sexual orientation... Then Season Three began. I am so disappointed. I feel Jackie defrauded all of us in regards to her caring for the clients and trainers... I am so disappointed by her conduct. I just don't care anymore about what happens to Jackie Warner. She has lost me as a viewer forever. Kari Ana


I can't agree with you more. For a show that is supposed to be all about building one's mental and physical well being, it's actually been all about disrespect and demeaning others. I'm just as disappointed as you are.
Alexrb
QUOTE (Jack123 @ June 2, 2008 - 12:14 PM) *
With all due respect DrB and Larceny, I settled the matter with Kia. Clearly, you didn't read through all of the posts. I hope you'll take the time to do so.

NOW-Can we talk about the show? I like the discussion about Jackie being addicted to toxic relationships. I totally agree. She is back with Mimi. I'm sure on some level Mimi offers Jackie that comfort of chaos. As screwed up is that is, we all know someone just like that. They recreate their past and their pain because it's comforting even if it's destructive. That's why I suggested EMDR. I haven't done EMDR but the people I work with swear by it. They say it breaks those sorts of patterns almost instantly. Again, I'm not a psychologist. Just repeating what I've heard. I'd love to have DrB's input on EMDR. I find it very interesting but must admit that it scares me a bit. unsure.gif

Please read my final post to Kiasmama. Thank you.



Well, Jack, I'm not DrB (unless you believe as peglam), but I am her better (lesser at times) half. I have one questions for you. Why in the world would a poster board cause you to google search or whatever you did a person and then use that persons issues against them? That is beyond me how you justify making it right with Kiasmomma and yet you never said you were sorry for doing the search to begin with and then using that against her. Do you understand what cyberbullying is all about? I do. I got a crash course Sat when I returned home and talked with Capt. Herrera. Can you explain to me what was your motive and what you were hoping to accomplish? D says to not talk or respond to certain people but when I saw you here, I just had to ask the questions. I could care less about Jackie and Work OUt. I just watch the boards now to see the soap opera unfold.
Larceny
QUOTE (Alexrb @ June 2, 2008 - 02:16 PM) *
I just watch the boards now to see the soap opera unfold.


ROFL you have to admit, that night was one heck of a soap opera event blink.gif
Kiasmama
QUOTE (DrB @ June 2, 2008 - 09:13 AM) *
I was glad to see Kiasmoma posted last night. I was really worried about her after the "storm" the other night. That has to be scarey to have someone google search you and then use stuff to attack you and call you things just to discredit you. I was scared for her. sad.gif


I am a marksman with a rifle and a darn good shot with my handgun, which I almost always have with me. Not to mention my martial arts and combat skills. Bring it on!!

I won't let anyone on the internet get to me. I mean....it's the internet. S/He was very stalkerish though....
Larceny
QUOTE (Kiasmama @ June 2, 2008 - 02:21 PM) *
I am a marksman with a rifle and a darn good shot with my handgun, which I almost always have with me. Not to mention my martial arts and combat skills. Bring it on!!

I won't let anyone on the internet get to me. I mean....it's the internet. S/He was very stalkerish though....


Yeah, you truly handled yourself with such class. I originally missed your response too on the ISP/IP issue I got involved in. You were dead on the money with that and Comcast confirmed you were totally correct.

Just way above me in miles for how you handled it all.
Jack123
QUOTE (Larceny @ June 2, 2008 - 11:01 AM) *
Actually, I wasn't referring to you at all, I was referring to the comments made by Chefdaddy and Ilovegoldenretrievers. I saw that you had specifically posted to Kia and you feel you cleared all that up. I'm sorry that you took it personally, never occurred to me you'd do that since it wasn't even a thought I had.

Edit: Just realized you probably thought maybe we were referring to you because of the "googling" comment. I was coming from the fact that the two I listed were using YOU as their argument, and throwing what you had discovered in Kia's face. I was coming from their actions, not your's; in that particular response.

Although, I will admit, your goggling Kia and then posting what you found was pretty darn cruel; and it was your actions that Chef and Ilove used against her in a very cruel way. I understand you feel you have worked that out with Kia, but I can't understand why it occurred in the first place.



Oh okay. I understand. I didn't realize Chef and Kia were getting into it. As for me, I'll attempt to explain in my reply to Alex.
Jack123
QUOTE (Kiasmama @ June 2, 2008 - 11:21 AM) *
I am a marksman with a rifle and a darn good shot with my handgun, which I almost always have with me. Not to mention my martial arts and combat skills. Bring it on!!


How very David Koresh of you. unsure.gif
Jack123
QUOTE (Alexrb @ June 2, 2008 - 11:16 AM) *
Well, Jack, I'm not DrB (unless you believe as peglam), but I am her better (lesser at times) half. I have one questions for you. Why in the world would a poster board cause you to google search or whatever you did a person and then use that persons issues against them? That is beyond me how you justify making it right with Kiasmomma and yet you never said you were sorry for doing the search to begin with and then using that against her. Do you understand what cyberbullying is all about? I do. I got a crash course Sat when I returned home and talked with Capt. Herrera. Can you explain to me what was your motive and what you were hoping to accomplish? D says to not talk or respond to certain people but when I saw you here, I just had to ask the questions. I could care less about Jackie and Work OUt. I just watch the boards now to see the soap opera unfold.


A lot of people post on boards and use the same username. I don't think that's wise unless you keep your personal details closely guarded. There are many Jack123's out there and none are me. I do post on OUtzone and sometimes other boards but not as Jack123.

When Kia posted her thoughts on AIDS victims I was very taken aback. Of course, I've confronted such opinions before but I had a hard time accepting that this view was coming from someone who was part of my community. A community that has already faced so much discrimination and hostility. So I googled Kiasmama. I googled her username. Nothing more. A username is not someone's identity nor would I have posted or discussed her personal identity should I have found as much. I wasn't interested in finding that info. I was simply curious to see what other boards she posted on. There was part of me that wondered about what Dacia had said and I wanted to see if Kiasmama was going to pop up on some crazy anti-gay site. It didn't but I thought what did come up was interesting.
Based on Kiasmama's other message boards, she struck me as someone who should understand compassion and struggle. So I brought it up to make a point and formulate an argument. I never once threatened her nor did I ever make reference to her identity. There is a huge difference there. Stalking would be going on those boards and harassing Kia. I wouldn't and didn't do that. Stalking would be attempting to gain her personal identity and expose it. I wouldn't and didn't do that. As for the point I was trying to make, I think it's clear in my subsequent posts.
Concerning harassment, I think calling someone's place of employment and attempting to interfere with their life could be considered harassment. I've seen a great deal of digging into Jackie Warner's life on this board that goes well beyond fun curiosity. Poking fun of someone, making snarky comments on a board is very different than overstepping the line into their life. That's it.
I'm very well versed on cyberbullying, the laws and lack thereof so I'd be happy to discuss it with Capt. Herrera. I'm also very familiar with other forms of bullying and hate crimes. I'm sure Capt. Herrera is a lovely person but the laws are ambiguous at best. I work with victims all the time and I know what the police can, can't do and all too often won't do. There is a reason the Lori Drew case is a Federal one. The local and State laws simply don't exist and it will be hard to indict her on Federal Fraud charges as well. Did she do someting horrible? Yes but she is being indicted on fraud not on bullying. So we fail to write laws that protect people and because of this mistake, we risk giving up our anonymity. There are some huge moral issues in this case but I'm not sure any can be addressed within the framework of law. I don't want to go off on the Lori Drew tangent but it's clear why we should exercise compassion and tolerance when dealing with real-life situations. I wasn't cruel to Kia. I pointed out the flaws in her arguments. I think her views are cruel and intolerant.

I'll leave this particular topic by reminding everyone what ignorance, close-mindedness and intolerance can lead to when it exists within a family, culture or community.

(I have to say again. I NEVER wanted to be soooooooo serious on this board. UGH!)

I will never forget David Ritcheson. Who is to blame? Everyone.

May his tortured soul rest in peace. May all those who have taken their own lives because of ignorant hate, find forgiveness and eternal rest.

Now please don't bring up Capt. Hererra again unless you're willing to get serious about real issues of hate and bullying.

2006 Texas assault incident

The 2006 Texas assault incident refers to the beating, torture, and sexual assault of a Latino student, by two white youths during the early morning of April 22, 2006 in an unincorporated section of Harris County, Texas, United States. The details of the attack lead to publication of the story in various media outlets in and outside of the United States.[1][2] The victim of the assault, whose identity was not made public until months after the attack, committed suicide a year after the incident.[3]

The assault

The incident occurred at a residence located north of the city of Houston, with a Spring, Texas address, at a party held at the Sons family home. Two Klein Collins High School students, David Henry Tuck and Keith Robert Turner, beat, tortured, and sodomized David Ritcheson, a 17-year old fellow Klein Collins student and former running back for the school American football team.[4][5]
Tuck and Turner, who were both under the influence of recreational drugs, said they were told that Ritcheson, also under the influence of drugs, tried to kiss a 12 year old white girl, Danielle Sons.[6] Sons' statement threw Tuck into a rage, and Tuck punched Ritcheson. The first punch was so powerful it broke Ritcheson's cheekbone and knocked him unconscious, stated Dr. Red Duke, the emergency physician who treated him.[7]

Tuck and Turner dragged Ritcheson outside, stripped him naked, burned him with cigarettes, and attempted to engrave a swastika into the Ritcheson's chest.[6] Tuck kicked Ritcheson with steel-toed boots and kicked a patio umbrella PVC pole up his rectum several inches while yelling racial slurs. After the sodomy ended, the perpetrators poured bleach on the victim's body to conceal the evidence of the crime. The attack lasted for over an hour. Ritcheson was left lying behind the house for more than 10 hours before he was found and an ambulance was called.[8] Ritcheson suffered from extensive injuries including a perforated bladder.[7] The night after the assault, Ritcheson's lungs failed, and the victim was placed on a ventilator. According to County prosecutor Mike Trent, the attackers may have poured bleach inside the pipe as high levels of toxins were found in the Ritcheson's organs.[8]

In December 2006, Tuck and Turner were both convicted of aggravated sexual assault. Tuck, who was described by prosecutors as a white supremacist,[9] was sentenced to life in prison,[9] and Turner was sentenced to 90 years.[10] Turner unsuccessfully appealed his conviction to the 14th Court of Appeals for the State of Texas. On March 20, 2008, the Court of Appeals issued its opinion affirming Turner's conviction. Both Tucker and Turner must serve at least 30 years before becoming eligible for parole.[6]

Aftermath

After being contacted by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and agreeing to make his name public, Ritcheson went to Washington, D.C., and on April 17, 2007, testified to the United States House of Representatives Judiciary Subcommittee about passing more stringent hate crime laws.[11][3][5]
After a lengthy recovery, which included a three-month stint in the hospital and more than 30 surgeries,[6] Ritcheson refused professional counseling and never spoke about his experiences to his friends.[12] During an interview with The Houston Chronicle, Richeson stated:
"I shouldn't care what people think or say. It's just the fact that everyone knows I'm the kid. It was bigger than Houston. It was bigger than Texas. It was bigger than America. Everybody in the world knew what had happened and everybody knew the details of it."

Death

On the morning of July 1, 2007, Ritcheson committed suicide by jumping from the deck of the MS Ecstasy, a cruise ship bound for the Mexican resort island of Cozumel.[3][13] The Ritcheson family's attorney, Carlos Leon, confirmed his death.[3]
JCpalmsprings
So what, are you going to shoot your monitor and beat-up your modem??? Talk about a threat and a little crazy! Have you all thought of how someone is suppose to find you anyway???

I ,like a couple of others think that some of you are taking this way to serious and should go back to posting on the show and on silly fun...

Hate me if you want...


QUOTE (Kiasmama @ June 2, 2008 - 01:21 PM) *
I am a marksman with a rifle and a darn good shot with my handgun, which I almost always have with me. Not to mention my martial arts and combat skills. Bring it on!!

I won't let anyone on the internet get to me. I mean....it's the internet. S/He was very stalkerish though....
Unwritten
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Unwritten
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Jack123
Off TOPIC

I just saw that our Little Darling Tatum O'Neal was arrested for buying crack in New York!

Someone please put Tatum and Kristy in a reality TV Show!

Are there any lesbians out there who were inspired by Buddy on Family?

Oh how far they've fallen. Let's support them! Let's petition Bravo to create a reality program called the REAL Little Darlings!

JCpalmsprings
Careful Jack you are showing your age. LOL

Wow that was so long ago, I loved that movie in high school and every once in a while see it on TV.
Kristy has been suffering from a lot of mental issues and Tatum has been in and out of re-hab for years. I would think VH-1 would pick her up for Celeb Re-hab..... Now don't you have something else to watch and review????

QUOTE (Jack123 @ June 2, 2008 - 03:03 PM) *
Off TOPIC

I just saw that our Little Darling Tatum O'Neal was arrested for buying crack in New York!

Someone please put Tatum and Kristy in a reality TV Show!

Are there any lesbians out there who were inspired by Buddy on Family?

Oh how far they've fallen. Let's support them! Let's petition Bravo to create a reality program called the REAL Little Darlings! .item-detail-info { margin-left: 17px; } .item-detail-info td { padding: 0px 4px 11px 0px; }
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QUOTE (SOBpalmsprings @ June 2, 2008 - 04:08 PM) *
Careful Jack you are showing your age. LOL

Wow that was so long ago, I loved that movie in high school and every once in a while see it on TV.
Kristy has been suffering from a lot of mental issues and Tatum has been in and out of re-hab for years. I would think VH-1 would pick her up for Celeb Re-hab..... Now don't you have something else to watch and review????


Can you believe I've never heard of that movie? (but, by God I've seen the new RAMBO) And SOB, I think I'm older than you...yikes! ohmy.gif
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QUOTE (SOBpalmsprings @ June 2, 2008 - 04:08 PM) *
Careful Jack you are showing your age. LOL

Wow that was so long ago, I loved that movie in high school and every once in a while see it on TV.
Kristy has been suffering from a lot of mental issues and Tatum has been in and out of re-hab for years. I would think VH-1 would pick her up for Celeb Re-hab..... Now don't you have something else to watch and review????


Tatum was on Dancing with the Stars last season...I thought she had pulled it together.

BTW...anyone else in love with Jason Taylor? What a speciman of a man! smile.gif
JCpalmsprings
I am not sure why they even made a new RAMBO! I saw the clips and have to say, "yuk, icky and grossssssssssssss". I liked the older Rambo movies, way back in the day.... ph34r.gif

QUOTE (fgnelson @ June 2, 2008 - 03:15 PM) *
Can you believe I've never heard of that movie? (but, by God I've seen the new RAMBO) And SOB, I think I'm older than you...yikes! ohmy.gif
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QUOTE (SOBpalmsprings @ June 2, 2008 - 04:20 PM) *
I am not sure why they even made a new RAMBO! I saw the clips and have to say, "yuk, icky and grossssssssssssss". I liked the older Rambo movies, way back in the day.... ph34r.gif



Trust me SOB, it was a pathetic and obvious attempt to "cash in". But then you have those "manly men" like my husband who go and not only rent it, but buy it....ooooohhhhh DrB, you are right, I need to change teams. ohmy.gif
JCpalmsprings
Oh no, I hope he got it on sale??? Who is Jason???

QUOTE (fgnelson @ June 2, 2008 - 03:24 PM) *
Trust me SOB, it was a pathetic and obvious attempt to "cash in". But then you have those "manly men" like my husband who go and not only rent it, but buy it....ooooohhhhh DrB, you are right, I need to change teams. ohmy.gif
JCpalmsprings
You should dress-up like Rambo and clean the F'n house laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


QUOTE (fgnelson @ June 2, 2008 - 03:24 PM) *
Trust me SOB, it was a pathetic and obvious attempt to "cash in". But then you have those "manly men" like my husband who go and not only rent it, but buy it....ooooohhhhh DrB, you are right, I need to change teams. ohmy.gif
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QUOTE (SOBpalmsprings @ June 2, 2008 - 04:35 PM) *
You should dress-up like Rambo and clean the F'n house laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



You silly! Jason Taylor is on the Miami Dolphins. What a hunk-a-hunk of burning love!! Don't you watch Dancing with the Stars?
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QUOTE (SOBpalmsprings @ June 2, 2008 - 04:35 PM) *
You should dress-up like Rambo and clean the F'n house laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif



SOB...I would look better than he did...I assure you of that!
JCpalmsprings
I have never watched that show. Maybe I will have to check it out one night... I have to tell you however, "men & woman dancing together is kind of like watching RAMBO" hehe ph34r.gif blink.gif wink.gif laugh.gif ... just kidding.

I am so afraid to post on here lately...

QUOTE (fgnelson @ June 2, 2008 - 03:39 PM) *
You silly! Jason Taylor is on the Miami Dolphins. What a hunk-a-hunk of burning love!! Don't you watch Dancing with the Stars?
JCpalmsprings
You could low-crawl across the kitchen floor laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif .
QUOTE (fgnelson @ June 2, 2008 - 03:43 PM) *
SOB...I would look better than he did...I assure you of that!
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QUOTE (SOBpalmsprings @ June 2, 2008 - 04:44 PM) *
I have never watched that show. Maybe I will have to check it out one night... I have to tell you however, "men & woman dancing together is kind of like watching RAMBO" hehe ph34r.gif blink.gif wink.gif laugh.gif ... just kidding.

I am so afraid to post on here lately...



Oh JC...I'm sorry.....when I get on the subject of Jason Taylor...I lose all my manners...forgive me!
JCpalmsprings
I'm afraid you are to late! I have already told your husband of this little crush. I also told him that you have "sports illustrated" tucked under your pillow. You now are going to have to F'n dress in RAMBO DRAG fulltime... laugh.gif

QUOTE (fgnelson @ June 2, 2008 - 03:46 PM) *
Oh JC...I'm sorry.....when I get on the subject of Jason Taylor...I lose all my manners...forgive me!
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QUOTE (SOBpalmsprings @ June 2, 2008 - 04:52 PM) *
I'm afraid you are to late! I have already told your husband of this little crush. I also told him that you have "sports illustrated" tucked under your pillow. You now are going to have to F'n dress in RAMBO DRAG fulltime... laugh.gif



SOB...you freakin kill me! I don't even have a come back for that one!

But...since you are so good with the computer...post a picture of Jason Taylor! Just for the straight girls!
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QUOTE (SOBpalmsprings @ June 2, 2008 - 04:52 PM) *
I'm afraid you are to late! I have already told your husband of this little crush. I also told him that you have "sports illustrated" tucked under your pillow. You now are going to have to F'n dress in RAMBO DRAG fulltime... laugh.gif



Just so we are singing from the same sheet of music, SOB, my husband knows his days are numbered.....the minute Jason realizes that I exist...he will promptly leave his incredibly gorgeous wife and children and come and get me....Right! Okay...Is DrB in the house? blink.gif
JCpalmsprings
Until he is sealed and covered he can always change his "Will"... touché


QUOTE (fgnelson @ June 2, 2008 - 04:09 PM) *
Just so we are singing from the same sheet of music, SOB, my husband knows his days are numbered.....the minute Jason realizes that I exist...he will promptly leave his incredibly gorgeous wife and children and come and get me....Right! Okay...Is DrB in the house? blink.gif
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QUOTE (fgnelson @ June 2, 2008 - 04:09 PM) *
Just so we are singing from the same sheet of music, SOB, my husband knows his days are numbered.....the minute Jason realizes that I exist...he will promptly leave his incredibly gorgeous wife and children and come and get me....Right! Okay...Is DrB in the house? blink.gif


I am here and you need to call for the 5pm appointment. My 4-6 moved up to 2-4 so I need an hour to recover. One little Rambo movie does not end a marriage. What would the dogs think?
JCpalmsprings
Are those Goat-Dogs????

QUOTE (DrB @ June 2, 2008 - 04:16 PM) *
I am here and you need to call for the 5pm appointment. My 4-6 moved up to 2-4 so I need an hour to recover. One little Rambo movie does not end a marriage. What would the dogs think?
Qwacker
QUOTE (SOBpalmsprings @ June 2, 2008 - 04:15 PM) *
Until he is sealed and covered he can always change his "Will"... touché



Now JC...I know you need an appointment. I told you to call but did you, oh no! Now I have to give fg your spot because you are now encouraging infidelity and divorce! STOP! angry.gif
JCpalmsprings
She brought it on herself, with that magazine under her pillow. Hell if she where a man "THOSE PAGES WOULD BE STUCK TOGETHER"... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
QUOTE (DrB @ June 2, 2008 - 04:19 PM) *
Now JC...I know you need an appointment. I told you to call but did you, oh no! Now I have to give fg your spot because you are now encouraging infidelity and divorce! STOP! angry.gif
Qwacker
QUOTE (SOBpalmsprings @ June 2, 2008 - 04:18 PM) *
Are those Goat-Dogs????


There is no such thing as a goat-dog...just a goat cat. PLEASE people...Morris has feelings. He is only the size of a small FAINTING goat.

How many remember that song "Feelings" by (I think) someone called ? OH I cna't remember...Somone help me.... wacko.gif
JCpalmsprings
I am way beyond therapy! I will be needing Electric shock treatments...


QUOTE (DrB @ June 2, 2008 - 04:19 PM) *
Now JC...I know you need an appointment. I told you to call but did you, oh no! Now I have to give fg your spot because you are now encouraging infidelity and divorce! STOP! angry.gif
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QUOTE (DrB @ June 2, 2008 - 05:19 PM) *
Now JC...I know you need an appointment. I told you to call but did you, oh no! Now I have to give fg your spot because you are now encouraging infidelity and divorce! STOP! angry.gif



No No DrB...no infidility.....my husabnd knows...if he comes to the door..I'm handing him the keys to the house, the cars, the camper.....
JCpalmsprings
Did the Goat mount the Cat or the Cat mount the Goat??? Ida sprayed em with the water hose to get em unstuck... rolleyes.gif


QUOTE (DrB @ June 2, 2008 - 04:22 PM) *
There is no such thing as a goat-dog...just a goat cat. PLEASE people...Morris has feelings. He is only the size of a small FAINTING goat.

How many remember that song "Feelings" by (I think) someone called ? OH I cna't remember...Somone help me.... wacko.gif
Qwacker
QUOTE (PanOnAHarley @ June 2, 2008 - 02:51 PM) *
Cancergate episode is on right now on the east coast.......Very surprised to see this episode come on "out of the "blue". It came on directly after a Shear Genius episode ended...
Wow, I still get a HUGE thrill seeing the "blurry Propel Bottles". LOL Time to restock my house with Propel...again.


Dr. B....I only have a minute to be online, so I haven't had time to read and see if anyone answered your question about who is sponsoring the show now...I know for a fact, that Tylenol is one of the newest sponsors...I wrote to them and received a response....When I get more time I will post it here...
Until then, let me just say, they need to hear from others, for sure....


Last weeks episode comes on here at 5 I think so I'll DVR it and see who the sponsors are.

Kari Ana...

I haven't had time to go back through to see if Alex posted to you but she was going to look up stuff on GE and NBC and let you know what she found. I don't know if she has yet but if she hasn't I'll have her send it to you. I just looked out my office window and she is floating in the pool. She looks dead. blink.gif I may have to go give her mouth to mouth!! BRB
Qwacker
QUOTE (fgnelson @ June 2, 2008 - 04:26 PM) *
No No DrB...no infidility.....my husabnd knows...if he comes to the door..I'm handing him the keys to the house, the cars, the camper.....



Ok, so if they know, it's ok. I see I missed that in therapy school. But I do have to admit, Alex and I have a freebie list. Top 5 or 10 women we could sleep with and it would not count as being unfaithful. No. 1 on my list now is Erika. Oh and by the way, Alex is not dead, just asleep. sleep.gif
JCpalmsprings
I don't allow Carpet Munching at my pool and no Lollipop Licking either! My pool guy says its "bad for the filters" blush.gif

QUOTE (DrB @ June 2, 2008 - 04:36 PM) *
Ok, so if they know, it's ok. I see I missed that in therapy school. But I do have to admit, Alex and I have a freebie list. Top 5 or 10 women we could sleep with and it would not count as being unfaithful. No. 1 on my list now is Erika. Oh and by the way, Alex is not dead, just asleep. sleep.gif
Qwacker
QUOTE (SOBpalmsprings @ June 2, 2008 - 04:23 PM) *
I am way beyond therapy! I will be needing Electric shock treatments...


Well JC, just come on over, I'll throw you in the pool and stick a power cord in there with you and you should be fine. But just in case that hurts you or something, I think we should wait til after next years Dinah and then do it. But we could still try the counseling until then...So tell me about your mother...hmmmm. That is very interesting... tongue.gif
JCpalmsprings
I am an embarrassment to myself you know....
JCpalmsprings
I was born in wagon of a travelin show.

Mamma used to dance for the money they'd sew.

Papa would do whatevr he could "preach a little gospel, sell a couple bottles of doctor good....


QUOTE (DrB @ June 2, 2008 - 04:41 PM) *
Well JC, just come on over, I'll throw you in the pool and stick a power cord in there with you and you should be fine. But just in case that hurts you or something, I think we should wait til after next years Dinah and then do it. But we could still try the counseling until then...So tell me about your mother...hmmmm. That is very interesting... tongue.gif
Qwacker
QUOTE (SOBpalmsprings @ June 2, 2008 - 04:41 PM) *
I am an embarrassment to myself you know....


One could only imagine...

Speaking of gay cruises...have you ever been on RSVP cruise before?
Qwacker
QUOTE (SOBpalmsprings @ June 2, 2008 - 04:45 PM) *
I was born in wagon of a travelin show.

Mamma used to dance for the money they'd sew.

Papa would do whatevr he could "preach a little gospel, sell a couple bottles of doctor good....


For those of you just joining us, we'd like to welcome you to the JC/SOB channneling Cher hour. We take request but can not guarentee he will perform anything other than what he likes. Please no pictures and keep your hands inside at all times. Hit it JC!!
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