Thank you WW I rest my case....

Quote: In all fairness to Deenie, this was not a tradional trainer-client set up. It was presented as a life changing journey, where clients were hand picked to their trainers. Jackie was the one who set up the high expectations of the trainer client relationship. She would have to expect people to pay $7000 for a week long retreat. Jessie visited a home and did a refrigerator cleanse with his client. So yes I can understand where Deenie is upset.
She was asked to put her life and story out there flaws in all, in turn she was looking to take the first steps to a healthy lifestyle. Jackie pointed out she was morbidly obese and this was a serious issue with some of the heavier clients. I think for the dramatic effect she actually said life or death, when she met with the Doctor previously.

My response: Yes I know this is supposed to be a life changing journey, but anyone who is heavy and goes to a trainer can expect a life changing journey. It is NOT easy. Been there done that. Yes Jackie did match up the trainers with the clients, but maybe she made a mistake in her choice. I know that Jackie charges for this, but did she charge this group. Yes, Jessie did visit his client, he stated he wanted to see how he/she lived and what the refrigerator contained and he emptied it as I remember. Maybe that is not Greg's style.

I remember that Jackie did use the term morbidly obese.

I wrote this to tell her what I saw in that night's program regarding her. I also told her my story to encourage her. If she truly wants to loose weight and slim down I felt what I went thru might help her. (No I did not realize she was an actress although I did know she had been on another reality show.) I had hoped when she heard what I had been thru it would encourage her to dig in her heels and go for it totally.

Yes I understand that this program is predicated on drama and that they expect to put people's lives out there for all to see. But the main objective is still to work out, or at least I thought that. Maybe I was wrong and maybe I should not have shared my story to give her encouragement. It was meant with Deenie's best interests at heart. That was all.

LOL!!! Check out Peeler's and Jackie's myspace and see for yourself if you think they are friends. They do still have contractual obligations for the show. This is a "reality show" and yes Bravo does manipulate situations for drama, but if it didn't happen than no manipulation could take place. Deenie is an actress and Natalie is a casting director. This is California:)

It came from her myspace

I think almost everyone assoicated with this show, trainers and clients alike are living in LA working as actors or actresses models or musicans. I am sure most have agents and go to casting calls. The trainers we see auditioned for Bravo to be featured and they decided who to show. Save it for the show speaks volumes, we are not wathcing a hidden camera show about the comings and goings of a gym. Even the meeting with the DVD rep, was set up. I am sure the real meeting included lawyers, accountants, managers and such.

I think Peeler and Jackie will forever be linked and be invited to the same events, they will have many pictures taken together.

I will admit to sometimes being fooled into watching the shows and watching unscripted drama, but 99% of it is set up. The firing of Peeler was real, the comments were real and probably too real for Bravo, hence us not knowing what was said or seeing it. I would imagine there are some contracts that are signed citing a period of confidentiality that a reality show participant can speak on the record of what happened. I would imagine the Bravo Peeler relationship is ongoing and that is why we really haven't read anything specific cited by him.
I don't know if there is much respect between Peeler and Jackie, I think they are stuck riding the same bus together.

Are you saying she was hired to add the drama on the show? I felt she was there to loose weight like the others. My blog was intended to help someone thru a difficult work out period and channel her energies to make it profitable for her.

I guess I totally misread the situation.

I have checked out both of their pages and also know that they have done charity work together and been too events together. How can you be so sure that this is not something they both wanted??? Peeler seems to be doing his own thing... No one will know until the season is over.... And we may never know....

Deenie has lost 33 pounds and seems that Greg Plitt became her trainer and Natalie looks incredible. Not just a TV SHOW.

Oh I am sure she was there to possible loose some weight, However look back at these post she has been on 3 other shows???

She probable got air time for compensated membership and to add some drama , Yes remember it is a gym... It is also a TV show... Do you think the cast is there for free, I think not....

Some of you are now sounding like spoiled children because you are not getting what you wanted....
This is TV (Entertainment)...
Remember I was also insulted....
You can do this for the next several weeks however you are not going to know what happens until it is over...

I did read the posts and saw she had been on 3 other shows. I am aware this is a reality show but just felt if she was there to loose weight she might need to see how she acted and how to turn it around somewhat to actually get some benefit out of the program.

I probably totally misread the whole situation.

As for the Jackie/Peeler debacle I have totally expressed my dissaproval of Jackie's behavior and signed the petition, written and emailed all the sponsors and expressed by displeasure with them sponsoring this program.

This has to be one of the most logical and well thought out post of the day......

What do you mean by spoiled children? Just curious not upset.

I have signed everything as well and even posted links... If you had seen some of the other shows she (deenie) has been on you would see some of her behaviors... Remember there is alot of editing... I also believe that when this show was finished Bravo had no idea these 2 episodes would cause so much harm and offened so many people....

LOL first I LOVE your name! Second, I do believe Jackie and Mimi are back together....go check out their myspaces (I don't have the link).

To the others, where are you getting Deenie's and Andy's (whoever the eff he may be) blogs from? If Andy is the producer, that means nothing because if a network don't wantcha [expletive deleted] on their tv, they don't want her, so he can keep his head up her arse good on him, she'll only sit on him and flatten him to get to her next victim anyway.

Some People on here just keep going on and and on about the same things. Bravo is not going to make any statements that will give away story line, They are also not going to admit to fault (I still have some hope for some kind of statement tonight before the show).. They are also not going to fire Jackie??? The show is over it was taped months ago, you can't fire someone who no longer works for you... Most if not all Reality has a few story lines they want to follow. The interviews to get cast to be on those shows and the questionnaires are quite extensive.. They look for personalities, beliefs, and a multitude of characteristics that will play together and against each other. They just don't throw a bunch of people in a room and let them have at it.....

Just because she was on other shows, doesn't mean she's not trying to lose weight and wasn't a Sky Lab client. She sounds like she's an actress trying to get a break and she was hoping this was it to lose weight and move on with her career. Look at Gregg, he acts like a trainer and fails miserably but he's still acting, he wants to be a singer so he needs to vanish...go ... buh bye...

PEELER BUILT...say yes to it!!!

I really did not think that the Deenie situation was all that important until (suposedly) Deenie wrote that blog. Yes I heard Greg say he did not care for her. That really is no big deal.

I felt the difference in the way Jackie handled Greg and Peeler was awful. She was just waiting to fire Peeler and I suspect she waited until the filming of the show to do it, just for the drama. Her actions were just too canned. She most likely would have torn into him and been more vicious in her confrontation. Seems like her style. The comments between Jackie and Lisa were unforgivable. There is an old saying, "You can not take something back once you have said it." "Usually saying you are sorry about something just gives you license to repeat the action." I fully expect Peeler to be hired back if he wants the job. Regarding Deenie and Greg, Jackie just seemed to pat Greg on the head and agreed with everything he said.

I too do not think the producers thought this would cause all this chaos (Peeler and Peeler's client). Cancer is just too serious a subject. Whether Jackie and Lisa knew she had cancer or not making fun of people's bodies is subhuman. I am sure they knew who Peeler's client was because she had to sign a release to be on the program. If I remember correctly, she stated Peeler had asked her to come to the spa and work out during the program.

When I say I want her fired, I mean do NOT bring her back to workout or not bring the show back and just start a new one with Peeler who treats his clients with the utmost respect. You're right that Bravo is NOT going to address this in anyway shape or form, there will be NO statement before tonight's show so I don't think anyone should be holding their breath. I mean look at her and Gregg's blogs, they're smug, ignorant, rude and foolish, they're not apologizing to anyone. I say who cares if they let the show run it's course, just make sure she gets the axe (no renewal) and the rest of her cronies go with her.

Peeler IS doing his own thing, he is keeping his fingers crossed that things work out for him and wants us to do the same.

I think that a workout show with Peeler as a major inspiration is what we all neeed, maybe Jamie Eason that hot guy Greg (with 1 G) and maybe Rebecca would be great. Peeler is so sweet to his clients and I have never seen one piece of footage of him putting them down and if it existed believe me Warner would have had that out there pronto! I would like the others to disappear, Renessa is okay I guess, but I'm not too attached to her, I dislike the manly one and Jesse, well let's just leave it at that, lol. Gregg (with 2 G's) is a jerk and him and Jackie can go jump off a cliff for all I care. They're not nice people and anyone who can treat other human beings in that manner is no one I would want to watch and I don't!!

Soo...PEELER BUILT....

It will be interesting to see what does happen tonight, that is if I choose to watch it. I lately watch "Deion and Pilar" on another channel and then turn on Work Out for the second viewing if I want to watch it. Deion Sanders makes me laugh as crazy as he is. They did an episode about his older son and daughter dating. It was her first date and we watched Deion's reaction to all of it. Buying the clothes (must go from neck to covering her feet) to Deion greeting the boy with a baseball bat in his hand and stressing the rules. It was funny. She kept saying, (paraphrased) Dad it is harder for me to get a date because you are Deion Sanders, don't do that baseball bat thing.

The only thing Bravo really cares about is ratings, they are no different then any other network trying to run a profitable show. How many good shows over the years have you seen cancelled to only watch junk air year after year, or a sucessfull game show suddenly take over nearly an entire week of airtime.

We have signed the petitions, for those of us who contacted Gatorade saw our efforts rewarded promptly. Just how prompt, convinces me there was much more involvement on Jackie's behalf than has been stated.

The only thing left to do is not to tune in. I did admit I will probally watch the reunion show, but that will be it. It would be nice if there was a message at the beginning on tonights show, but I doubt there will be. We may see Peeler with the other trainers or Lisa, as it was written they filmed a lunch date scene. I do belive Peeler was not fired from Bravo, just Skysport.

For those who really want to see this show end, all you can do is not tune in. That is the only message Bravo will receive. I think alot of curiousity seekers will be watching and actually bump the ratings, but I will not be one, that is just my decsion. I know some people enjoy the stories of the skylabbers and the other trainers and may continue to tune in, and that is their choice. But the only way to end train wreck reality is not to tune in. Bravo has quite the bee's nest here, and it could tip in either direction.
I am sure from the network that has brought us, Kathy Griffin, Top Chef, Project Runway, Flipping Out, Housewives NYC and yes even Step up and Dance, they can replace this show will a truely entertaining alternative. They should have pride that they are not known for the ugly reality TV that some nameless networks air.

BTW, I have to say for the sheer number of posts that have be logged in since the show aired, I must say the number of well meaning and thoughtfull responses has been staggering.

Whatever Gregg promised was not in the area of promises Jackie made

to All of the Sky Lab participants. Isn't Gregg supposed to give these

special clients the life changing experience Jackie keeps speaking about?

I am so sick of this attitude that the person who is upset is somehow

unhinged when in FACT all Deenie asked for was what Jackie had

promised her. Why is it okay for Gregg to cancle workouts and to not

arrive on time, but Peeler gets fired for sticking up for his client? CAN

YOU SAY DOUBLE STANDARD?

Kari Ana

Okay, if you all say okay I will go to Yahoogroups and start a group

called


Work_Out_NOT. Or we can go with WO-No-You-Didn't. Or

Sky_Lab-Without-JW. These are just three ideas. I am sure

someone out there has some better ideas so send them to me.

Also, what rules do we want in regards to if people can just join

or do we want people looking at who joins which just means looking

at Yahoo profile. Anyone wish to be a Moderator?

Kari Ana

With Gatorade/propel pulling out of the show, I doubt the show or JW will be back. Everyone in the Fitness Industry knows who Jamie is and would never think of acting like JW did, on or off camera. She my friends has made her bed... My best friend owns a gym and most of his trainers and clients are talking about her and several of the plot lines...

I guess you did not approve of what I wrote either about Deenie, but I think I dealt with that in a later blog. Since I have been informed she is an actress, I now contribute everything she did to acting for the sake of drama. I have heard she has lost weight on the program.

Did Jackie actually promise that the trainers would call the clients everyday. I heard her promise that there is a special bond between trainer and client but I did not see that was meant to mean they would become best friends.

I too feel the double standard "The Gregg/Peeler" double standard is terribly wrong. We all saw Peeler's firing coming since season one, Jackie just needed what she considered the right moment.

We all forgot that the show was filmed last fall/late fall. Maybe had we remembered that, none of us would have gotten too excited about much of it, except for the cracks by Jackie and Lisa about the implants.

Look at Skylab's website Renesse and some of the other trainers are gone. They were probably there just for the show.
My friend who owns a small GYM only employs 2 trainers the other 6 come with their clients who are members and pay an extra fee on top of what the client annual membership is... He has also canceled some memberships and asked clients and trainers not to return...

I will be watching tonight to see what happens with Peeler as soon as I know I will not continue to watch the show.....

I would agree that I think the first and foremost issue for Bravo at this point is damage controll. I think when they read the backlash from the trainers blogs they told the other trainers, Gregg P. Rebecca, Jessie and Renessa not to blog this week. Jessie and Rebecca usually post the longest blogs and usually pretty quickly after a show aired, so not to see one from them after such an explosive episode makes me think they are following orders.

Let's face it Jackie Warner was very sucessfull before the show but since the show debuted she became famous. Her product line also grew as each season aired. This was an opptunity of a lifetime to take her from a well known trainer in LA and make her a household name around the country. It's all risk and reward. The rewards are great if you can manage it properly, but the risk is equally as great. I would bet calender sales and DVD sales will suffer and the tabliod stories will begin to pop up pretty quick.

Again she made her bed and her choices along the way, and I don't feel that she has been victimized at all. You can't expect the average person to fork over hard worked money to make a millionaire richer and feel you are above reproach.

I personally will never believe anything is real on Work Out and will approach it like a Soap Opera.

In all honesty, we need to NOT watch tonight. Let the ratings do the job for us.....the ratings slide, the show's over.....after all Blow Out's been gone for how long now?

Send the message...change the channel...the show will be over.

Once again you hit the nail on the head... well thought out post....

I loved Blowout! Jonathan protected his stylist and his product. He was very concerned about his salons and the clientèle. He was the one that decided 2 seasons were enough so he could focus on his bussiness....

This is probable the last year of the show anyway.... Bravo shows never last that long as it is....

I found Jessie's webiste. www.jessebrune.com check out the contact page, how many trainers in your gym have management,as well as represenatation- for endorsments as well as television and a publicist.

Only in LA

Most everyone on this show is probally one pilot or script away from not being a trainer, it's like the waiter and waitresses in NYC, all working between auditons.

Makes me laugh at my small world I live in.

Don't be so surprised... He will probable have his own cooking show and it looks like his own line of food delivered right to your door...

I just received an email reply from Soyjoy...they have pulled their ads from Work Out until they can review the episode.

Just got that from SoyJoy!

from Sky Sport Site


Renessa is available for private training.
Rate: $110.00 per hour.
Call 310.652.7721 to book.

She is still there.

Sorry my mistake I thought she was gone. some of the others are....

Wow I just got the same e-mail Soyjoy. I must have wrote them 10 e-mails....

Now can everyone e-mail GLAAD...

The REAL STORY from Jamie Eason herself (who posts on a forum I am a member of)

Join Date: Oct 2004
Age: 26
Posts: 3,459
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 4093
Rep Power: 1697
Quote:Originally Posted by JamieEason
First off, I was training and Peeler almost made me throw up, so yes, I probably didn't look my best. He had me doing crazy plyos and inverted sit-ups on an exercise ball, holding my legs.

Second of all, Jackie was the one who was doing the trash talking and Lisa chimed in. If you go to Bravo's site, she completely denies ever saying anything. She is extremely unprofessional. She never even acknowledged, not during or after the incident. That was my first and last time to ever train there. I only went on the show as a favor to Brian Peeler. To say that she didn't know who I was seems obsurd since I had to sign off to even appear on the show. I do not have a trainer and haven't had one years. It is really unfortunate that they used that incident to fire Peeler.

Thank you to those who have shown their support on the site and on my myspace. I really appreciate it!
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Here is contact info to the remaining main sponsor of the show if you wish to contact them to voice your displeasure with this situation:
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VP Business Development Tom Zimmerman
Pharmavite LLC
8510 Balboa Blvd., Ste. 300
Northridge, CA 91325-3583
Phone: 818-221-6200
Fax: 818-221-6618
Toll Free: 800-423-2405

http://www.soyjoy.com/contact.aspx
P.O. Box 9606, Mission Hills, CA 91346-9606
Telephone 1-888-676-9569
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Here is a link to a petition to get this show off the airwaves:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/643731154

I hope in everyone's response to soyjoy that you all politely accept the offer of free samples and thank them for listening to us and RESPONDING....

Excuse me, did you read Deenie's blog? That makes it pretty clear

that no matter what Deenies chosen profession, that encounter with

Gregg was real. As far as your repitious comments, I simply do not

have any idea how anyone can be so cruel to someone with a weight

problem. It is difficult for everyong who has a few extra pounds. It

is unfair for people to simply believe the worst of Deenie just because

she is overweight. I don't really care to read your justifications for

cruelty and rudeness.

Kari Ana

I got the same email and did respond. I will enjoy one with my Propel. It goes both ways with these sponsors, when they do the right thing, respond in turn with support of their product.

I am stunned at your turnaround. Why does it matter that Deenie is

an actress? She was treated badly. Just as I believe a hooker with

20/20 eyesight is a good eye witness, an overwieght person who is

being given the opportunity for diet food and exercise is still an

overwieght person. Even being an actress, she doesn't have so much

money that she could afford the diet food that she is now being given.

I am also worried about Deenie considering what she says is going to

happen tonight at the retreat. So what if she has been on other

shows? It makes no sense that her career and being on some shows

somehow makes what happened okay!!!!

Kari Ana

Kari Ana

So now this entire thing is okay. Why? Because Deenie is an actress

and has behaviors that are not attrative. So this makes what happened

to Deenie okay? I don't think so. Neither is the Peeler/Jackie thing

okay. Why have you really decided to change your attitude about this

situation?

Kari Ana

No some of us are still upset of the following..

1. The treatment of overweight people. That why they are their.

2. The Portrayal of Gays and Lesbians on TV.

3. Those who have surgery (cosmetic or to fix from an illness)

4. Harassment in the work place.

5. Sexual harassment in the work place.

6. Poor programming for the sake of ratings and revinue...

or at least that is why I am upset...
Has anyone seen my missing Testicle due to cancer....
Or can you tell the last GYM I was at not to whisper and look in my direction..... Thank God I have a friend who owns one and I also have a PVT gym at home... As for weight I gained (15LBS) recovering and it is damn hard to take off.

Kari I can't support a Yahoo group! Bravo is looking at these Boards and so is Jackie and the Fitness Community....

As far as Dennie, I am not implying anything other then that she has been on other shows and knew what she COULD be getting into. Gregg crossed a line and so did JW (still can't spell out here name) with the way they handled the situation... I was commenting on her Blog that was posted,,,,