I agree!!! That is the whole point!

Well stated! I think that is really what we are trying to say when we talk about some of our objections to Jackie's behavior and how it "crosses lines"!

WOW
Read Gregg's blog, He and Jackie must have the same writters...

QUOTE(KisaB @ May 14, 2008 - 04:14 PM) Doug was "going" to be his Best Man? That's just seems odd to me. Doug DIED before he got the chance to be his best man, OK?!!! It was shortly before the wedding and it broke Peeler's heart that Doug was not able to be in the wedding, does that seem "odd" to you too?!




I'm going to answer this one. Been reading the posts for over a week now and I can't believe how synical and hateful some of you are. You scream about how Jackie Warner is the devil and has no morals and you somehow justify your hate and anger? Is that the answer? Attack like a bunch of rabid dogs?

Now to Brian Peeler. The poster was absolutely right to question why Doug would be involved in Brian's wedding! Doug had a million friends and admirers. Brian was merely a fringe aquaintance. Brian built up that relationship. Doug was kind to Brian but was no means a best friend to him. I know Brian Peeler. He is a habitual liar and a complete bigot. The man burns every bridge he crosses and doesn't have a long-term friend to his name. He is not a certified trainer and is lacking in most areas of the discipline.

Brian set the entire Jamie Eason thing up just to piss Jackie off. Brian was not hired by Jackie. He would have never been hired as he is a sh*t trainer with no experience. He was hired by the producers for the show not to work as a trainer in the gym. Jamie Eason does not use a trainer. She's far more qualified than Peeler is in a gym. Brian had some sort of barely there friendship with Jamie and her boyfriend. Notice Jamie's boyfriend is nowhere to be found to back up Brian's claims? So Brian convinces them that he can get Jamie some on-air time and oh by the way, make him self look like some hardcore badass trainer in front of the cameras and Jackie. In addition, Brian poisons Jamie's boyfriend about Jackie so he was lit before ever going into the gym. He was lurking and waiting. The whole thing was ridiculous. Jackie was stupid for falling for the bait but don't think for a second that Brian Peeler is some sort of quality guy. He's not. Jackie commented on Jamie's implants after Lisa. It was not a big deal and didn't have anything to do with Jamie's cancer. Jamie didn't get implants because of cancer. She didn't have to suffer the loss of her breast or breasts the way my Grandmother did! So get of your moral highhorse, get a life, get off the computer, get off your ass and move and if you want to be hateful and judgemental, then check yourselves first! I'm pretty sure most of you could keep yourselves busy by dissecting your own lacking lives.

Let it go people. If you don't like Jackie, then turn the channel and if you think Brian Peeler is a hero, then you are undermining your shallow little cause to destroy someone else's life because the guy is not popular in the LA circles!

Why do you think everyone was so tired of Brian discussing Doug? Because Brian made is seem like they were soooo close and it just wasn't true! There were people who were very close to Doug for years and years. They were devastated by his death. If you can't understand how Brian exploited this, then I can't help you.

I wish you luck with your negativity and hate. If you cannot see that your vitriol is no better from that which you accuse Jackie, then you are lost and saddened individuals. Jackie built her business, she achieved something that I'm guessing most of you haven't nor will you ever. She's not perfect. She's flawed. She's human. Go get your own gym and start your own show! It's easy to pick on those who have put it out there while you hide behind your screens in darkened rooms! Do it yourself and see how it goes!

Stop complaining that Jackie is insensitive to others' needs and then turn around and and attack a woman you don't know other than a few minutes every week for just a few weeks a year! You have no idea what you're talking about and you seem to not care that the people involved in the show have feelings and get hurt. Many people are employed by Work Out and Bravo. It pays the bills and is work for most involved. It's not just Jackie. It's lighting, editing, sound and so on. Do I need to go on? You are hurting many people and for what? Jamie's Easons breasts? She was going to get implants whether she had cancer or not. Jamie discusses it on You tube. Look it up! Destroying people's lives because of Brian Peeler? Are you serious? That guy has destroyed every personal relationship he has ever been involved with but you're willing to destroy the livlihoods of others just to defend a guy you don't know? A guy who was a homophobe before getting to know Doug. Perhaps the only reason Doug befriended Brian. He wanted to open Brian's pea brain up to the larger picture and enlighten him. That was it folks. It was pity and Doug's nature to educate. Nothing more. Apparently, Brian forgot what Doug taught him because he has been nothing but a hateful bigot toward Jackie and lesbians. Are Brian Peeler and Jamie Eason's boobs so important that your going to put a grip out of work in this terrible economy? The writer's strike hurt many of us already. Look beyond the so-called stars. It's a business. What if I threatened your job and your income just because I thought YOUR boss was an [expletive deleted]? Larry Ellison is a total pr*ck but I'm pretty sure the people at Oracle are happy to be employed and to have employment. Think about it!

There are about a billion actual causes in the world that could use support and time. This is not one of them. Go save an animal, go volunteer at your local homeless shelter, go visit a VA hospital. DO SOMETHING POSITIVE WITH YOUR TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I respect your opinion and your right to state it, but I have the right to mine and do what I feel is right.

quote nama:

"I'm going to answer this one. Been reading the posts for over a week now and I can't believe how synical and hateful some of you are. You scream about how Jackie Warner is the devil and has no morals and you somehow justify your hate and anger? Is that the answer? Attack like a bunch of rabid dogs? "

You seem to have the same hate and anger in you, but only yours is directed at Brian, Jamie and Rich.
God Bless you nama:)



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Once again another Jackie supporter who chooses to ignore the deplorable behavior of Jackie. This isn't about Peeler...this is about Jackie's disturbing and offensive comments regarding a fellow human being. I am sorry if your job is threatened but you are bullying the wrong people.

I am a business owner and I can assure you of one thing...I will not ever tolerate any of my employees making improper comments about any customer or each other, nor would I in a million years participate in such a thoughtless, immature and classless act. I do not sexually harrass my employees, I do not create a hostile work environment.

I also happen to the mother of a child who was born premature due to the rupture of my appendix. He spent 19 weeks in a hospital 3 hours from home and he survived. He has significant brain damage as a result of his struggles. He is now 15 years old and extremely talented in sports. So, if he walked into Skysport and was made fun of...is that okay?

Again, I feel like what I'm doing is important and positive...bringing attention to a thoughtless tyrant who feels nothing for her fellow humans!

Yes we are all entitled to our opinions. We all read your post.

I appreciate you took the time to write your comments, what I did not appreciate is your personal attacks on the group.

Sounds great. ProPeelerBuilt. So if I go to Yahoogroups and open a

group with this name you all will come join???? This gets us off the

Bravo servers and we can go from there?

Kari Ana

We are doing something positive. We are working to stop a bully from

being a bully.

Also, we are supposed to believe you know Brian Peeler and that you

believe in him being a jerk is valid WHY????????????? You JUST GOT

HERE for goodness sakes.

Kari Ana

I will still stay on Bravo.. But I will also join your group....E-mail all of us when it is open... Thank you

Maybe we are making progress with Bravo...the post by Nama or Namo...whoever...seems to either be employed by Work Out or knows someone who is. That rant offended me greatly...I just don't understand what they don't get.

It would serve them (Bravo & Cast) to the utmost to get folks arguing amongst themselves. I lost my temper at someone similar yesterday and feel bad for it...not for anything I wrote, but I got angry at someone who was deliberately trying to push buttons (I fell for it). Don't let it get to ya :-) You are trying to do a good thing - call out a liar. Keep up the good work!

It would appear the poster went to alot of trouble to hint at being employed at Skysport. I would guess if that is the case you enjoyed alot of fringe benefits from working at a gym featured on a tv show. Well your show is no different from any other show if people don't like the charecters they see they turn the channel. How is this different? As far as the sponsors, well seeing as though this show is one big infomercial for Jackie Warner industries she should hold herself up to the highest of standards with her behavior, since so many depend on the sucess of the show to feed their families.

As far as the comments about Doug and Brian, that's pretty hateful stuff, Brian and Doug always appeared close before Doug's passing. The only person who seemed to have an issue with Doug was Jesse. I remember he got pissed b/c Doug made a comment in a magazine that people responded to him (Doug) b/c he wasn't a Will and Grace gay (I'm paraphrasing here). Jessie gave him [expletive deleted], the cold shoulder the whole 9 yards. Then Doug apologizes (the better man). When I watched that knowing Doug had passed away I thought Jesse looked like a complete and total *&*hole.

Whether you like Peeler or not, in that situation he deserved better.

A client and cancer survivor, her boyfriend and an employee have been clearly mistreated in a disgusting and disturbing way. The employee was fired over nonsense and was told to take the client with him.

Even when you remove the names and past drama no amount of tv editing or JW apollogist rhetoric can ever change how appaling that is to happen to human beings. Its disgusting.

I was highly offended by the verbal attacks on us. I think that was uncalled for. Actually in my mind that kind of post with all the verbal abuse actually negates the points the person was trying to make. As for getting what is being said, I doubt they will ever get it.

I must say Nama's post only reinforced the problems with Jackie Warner, her yes-people and that gym. That someone allegely close to these people would think and post alloud such comments on the internet to try and tear down Brian Peeler and make Jackie seem right in futility only goes to show we have been watching sociopaths and the drama they create for themselves on "the work out."

Well put. I agree. It's gonna get tougher and possibly a lot meaner.

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I imagine we are going to take a few "hard" hits in the near future. We just have to remember not to lower ourselves to the verbal abuse level. I have seen a lot in the two years of being on the Bravo boards. You never can debate logic with emotion.

Ohiofarmgirl for President...

You have my Vote....

You know what strikes me as really funny? You are all running around like your on a witch hunt to get all these sponsors to pull their sponsorship because you dont like Jackie, don't approve of what she said, etc.

Yet none of you seem to have the testicular fortitude to call up Sky Sport and discuss this with her. Now tell me, why is that??

Okay Swiss74 I'm gonna follow your advice on this one.

ProPeelerBuilt@yahoogroups.com is up and running. Anyone can join. I

will approve who and then we will be up for business. It is up to you all

if this group sinks or swims. Because this is about a reality show I

placed the group in entertainment, television, people. I hope

the description is okay. I wrote it off the top of my head. I forgot how

soon that happens so I just did it. I hope it is okay with all of you.

Kari Ana

How do you know that no one tried?

Im not swiss74

No you certainly are not...but I am going to follow the advice given in Swiss74's previous post...not to debate logic with emotion.

a lot meaner? Huh?
What started out as a valid complaint has turned into something much more sinister. The few of you left, and there are only a few of you, just keep posting and posting the same tired thing over and over.

What you're doing is creating actual fans of Jackie Warner! I thought Jackie was wrong but I have resolved the issue in my stable brain and have moved on. There are far worse individuals doing far worse things in their places of employment that effect far more people. There are more important things to do. Why don't you direct some of your misplaced anger toward giant corporations stepping on human rights around the world, or how about George Bush? I'd love to see him in a reality television format. Jackie hasn't killed anyone, destroyed the economy or sent your son to war. Give it a rest. You have chased away many posters. I was on your side when I first showed up to read last week but you've taken it too far and have crossed into crazytown.

Ohiogirl, do you really think a poster was trying to push your buttons? I went back and read your posts and I'd say that you need to take your meds.

I'm a gay man. I like Bravo. Jackie Warner isn't my favorite person but overall I enjoy Work Out. There have been far more offensive representations of the gay and lesbian community on other shows. This one is more positive than negative. Jackie's interpersonal relationship problems have nothing to do with her being a lesbian. Don't confuse the two and stop using it to rationalize your hate.

Good lord you people have really lost it. Go! Go to your Yahoo Group of isanity! Please! Or maybe you can start your own church or cult since your morals and values are so much higher than everyone elses! Yes, do that! You can have sermons about what victims you all are to the bullies of the world. So sad for you! We've all dealt with death, pain and heart break in our lives but somehow Jackie Warner has really compounded all of that in your lives!?

IT'S A TV SHOW PEOPLE! A TV SHOW! STOP YOUR HATE NOW! I really can't believe that you can't see your own hate?

I did call. I was never permitted to talk to anyone.

If we start our own church we won't have to pay taxes....

I did call. She doesn't have the "testicular fortitude" to discuss it with me.

Oh JC...I just love you!

Thank you graciefrop. A witch hunt is exactly what this is and why? Did they go after Rosie when she behaved badly? Do they go after everyone who doesn't behave up to their expectations or does this little group give them a sense of power and belonging? They act like they are a team and sqawk and scream like harpies at anyone who disagrees. There are not thousands on this board!
Why do you assume that Nama works at the gym? Why do you assume that anyone that disagrees with your hateful rants is somehow connected to the show or Jackie Warner? That's a bit paranoid and makes me wonder if you're all sitting around with tinfoil on your heads checking the oven.

Good line.

Tried it love, got put on 'ignore'. As for testicular fortitude...wrong anatomical reference, I do however have 'Ovaries of Steel!' and would love to have a discussion with JW about her behavior and how she feels she is an appropriate role model.

Because WHO are you? Why would anyone take your call? "Hello, I'm barb29 from nowhere's ville and I want to tell you how wrong you are because I'm a perfect human being."

They'd be wise to issue a restraining order against you.

Dang! Good idea!

I am sorry, but that was FUNNY!! I let anyone say what they want, this is a forum. Whatever side you are on, that was FUNNY!

Looks like he gave-up and left.
Bye Bye... Jack123
Or he fell out of the chair due to Overly large Testicles.

This Gay man does not share his thoughts in any way....

Yeah, I agree. Jack123 is sincerely entertaining me.

I spoke to soon he's back.....

See...a whole lot meaner...hang tough y'all.

Standing up for decency is a good thing and often overlooked (hence why it tends to get lost in general moral standards as a 'common' thing)

Keep to it. Y'all are doing a GREAT job!

This is from another GAY blog! I can't take credit for it but just wanted you all to know that not all us fags are having twisted hissy fits about Work Out. I agree with everything he says! You're just a bunch of hypocrites!

Daniel said... Self-righteous, ignorant, hypocritical, and bigoted straight people are out in force to destroy Jackie Warner. They will say this has nothing to do with Jackie being a lesbian but it has everything to do with it. There is a pattern of straight people bullying lesbians into submission when they do not like what they have done. Remember when Ellen came out in 1998. Straight people tried to force sponsors to abandon her show and get her off the air. Remember when Rosie was on the View. Straight people tried to force sponsors to abandon that show and force her off the air. Now you have this situation with Jackie. Once again they are trying to bully a lesbian.

Where was the outrage when Jonathan Antin screamed at his employees on Blow Out? Oh, he’s straight so that’s ok. Where was the outrage when [expletive deleted] on Big Brother 8 made derogatory comments about women and gay people and pored water over a female contestant? I could go on and on but it doesn’t matter because straight people have selective outrage.

Straight people have been gay people’s long time oppressors. For thousands upon thousands of years they bullied gay people into pretending to be straight or else face a severe reaction. Look at this study to see the viewpoints and tactics straight people have used against gay people in order to get their way:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m229...une/ai_66011966

Straight people can’t stand that a lesbian asserted herself and told a straight male to get out of her office or else she would fire him. Brian Peeler from day one argued with Jackie and tried to undermine her authority. Should anyone be surprised? No. Straight males are highly disagreeable. That’s why they argue and cause violence. I warned Jackie about Greg Plitt. He is headed down the same road Brian already did. Greg Plitt has already questioned Jackie several times. He stayed with Brian during the mud run not because he was trying to be nice because he didn’t want to run with the gay men and that’s why he didn’t go on the bus ride with Sky Sport to the resort this last episode. Greg Plitt is avoiding being near the gay trainers. Military people tend to be anti-gay so it’s no surprise. He like Brian are only on the show to further their acting careers.

In light of Brian Peeler’s derogatory comments about Jackie’s gender (calling her a [expletive deleted]) and gender expression (saying he wanted to fight her like a man etc.) here are a few studies on the reactions of people to women in leadership positions and those with “masculine” tendencies. You will see that his reaction match up with the prejudicial ones in these studies.

http://www.ucm.es/info/Psi/docs/journal/v1..._2008/art55.pdf
http://www.sociology.fsu.edu/people/padavi...action_1991.pdf
http://www.apa.org/monitor/julaug04/women.html

I’ve seen a lot of people say Jackie’s success has gone to her head. Here is a study that shows people like women significantly less when they become successful in a male-dominated job.

http://psycnet.apa.org/index.cfm?fa=main.d...=2004-95165-003

There are a lot of straight people saying they will watch a show by Brian Peeler. Bull. They said this same thing after Rosie left The View. And what happened there; the ratings plummeted after Rosie left. These people might get their chance to put their remote where their mouth is. Brian Peeler announced that he has been developing a pilot for over a year now. I wondered why he always wanted to be on camera…

Keep going Jackie! Don’t let the bigots get you down.

What would that serve? So she can insult each of us personally?

We can read her thoughts about the incident in her blog. Its clear she thinks she is right and no one can rationally talk to Jackie Warner about the matter unless it paints her in a positive light.

We have already seen Jackie's capacity at "discussing" matters on the show. Thats part of this whole mess. I mean, really... you appoligists ever understand whats going on here?

The only way people like her will learn is through their wallets. Get their sponsors pulled and their show canned. And that is what they are worried about now. A week later and suddendly after feeling the pinch they are getting their claws out in defense of despicable behavior.

And after Nama's putting words in a dead man's mouth to demonize Peeler and belittle their friendship, I have no sympathy for what may happen to their jobs if they cant have simple respect for the dead or the same sympathy for breast cancer survivors or someone loosing their own job over a petty vendetta.

I believe that would be aluminum foil....

Wear it all the time! Never know when little green men are going to read our mind...

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Buh bye WORKOUT!!! Buh BYE Warner!!

Ok, must go put tin collander back on head so I can safely go outside to let the puppies pee :-)

I LOVE you guys! You too Jack!

Look...I'm a lesbian. I'm not straight. I'm as crooked as a dog's hind leg...really

...and I happen to agree with these straight people that JW and Bravo crossed too many lines this time.

Go back to my quote about 'common decency' I am applying to everyone, not to one selective group. Can't play the 'Gay' card on this one...act of despiration...won't work.