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onionmark
QUOTE (mymonkeycandothat @ June 17, 2008 - 12:28 AM) *
See everyone over to the PR boards!! ~evil laugh~



You haven't left yet?
2pooped2see
QUOTE (Jazzie53 @ June 17, 2008 - 12:46 AM) *
Boy, no kidding.....but number ten....yeah, I could see that. Course, I'm the woman who gives a different end of a long yarn string to two different meows!

Jazz



You can be one wicked woman!
daverocks
QUOTE (Fordmanrod @ June 16, 2008 - 11:11 PM) *
I have to think that option 2 is the best.... just from your description it sounds as if you know that already. Yes it might be short term but if you look at is a means to buy some time towards your own space it might be more palatable. Option 1 sounds like you would be unhappy from the git-go.


Thanks! funny thing is, I used to not be unhappy with option 1. Well at least before bf moved in. I have lived there for 3 years. I guess I am finding it kind of hard to uproot myself (which isn't usually a problem) and I am being a bit materialistic b/c I LOVE my giant room/bathroom and closet! I keep thinking, if I wait it out perhaps bad bf will get cut loose and we can all be happy again! but I am beginning to think that won't happen. Thanks for the objectivity.
daverocks
QUOTE (ArtInstigator @ June 16, 2008 - 11:18 PM) *

Sheesh, daverocks, sounds like a choice between the lesser of two evils. Where is "way way north" to you in Austin? I've been here a really long time, PM me, I may know parts of town where you could afford to live solo.


AI


Hey AI! nice to see you. It's been awhile hasn't it? It's Gattis School Road north. Williamson County and I usually work downtown. I will definetly PM you as there are many other places I'd like to live! Hope things are going well with you!
Radyms13
QUOTE (brillke @ June 16, 2008 - 06:03 PM) *
I love my pets but even these,except #10 which I own,is too out there for me.


http://www.petside.com/news/crazy-pet-gadgets.html



See I told ya there were neuticals!!! I mentioned them last season when CJ had to talk about his balls in every episode!!

Gotta wonder what goes through these peoples minds when they are making this stuff up.....then the stuff actually makes it into the marketplace!!!!
Radyms13
Daverocks, I'm with everyone else----pick door #2! Good luck!!
TaterTot
QUOTE (daverocks @ June 16, 2008 - 10:43 PM) *
So here is a personal problem. I need you guys' objective opinion on this matter. I know you will give it to me b/c you don't have any needs from me like my friends/co-workers/family. which situation do you think is better? I know there isn't much to chose between the two, but moving out on my own is not an option right now, it's just too expensive.

A. Largest room in a 4 bedroom house. Own bathroom, gigantic closet, garden tub, huge room.
Bills paid-Internet, trash, water, electricity
Bills I pay-Cable, Telephone
Drawbacks:
4 people live in the house. 1 person is a total jerk. he is dating the roommate whose family owns the house. The other roommate is her brother and I am number 4. The jerk wears his boxers around the house, is an alcoholic, smokes behind his woman's back, does no chores, takes other people's beer and comments to roommates brother how hot 17 year old girls are while he is in his 40's and talks down to his gf.
House is southwest of city. Somewhat of a commute but nice area. All my friends are south or central and all my favorite cool places to eat and hang out are south central.
Internet sucks and roommate seems to not care to try and get it fixed.
Roommates leave dirty dishes piled up on the counter for days.
Dog hair is everywhere.


B. Have a bedroom and bathroom to myself for 100 dollars less than what I am paying now with bills included except phone and cable.
My niece would love to have me as her roommate.
Drawbacks
Live with my niece (who is a good friend, more like a sister) her two young kids (3 & 1) and her boyfriend who certainly have their fair share of drama. BF can be somewhat of a douchebag.
Family will think something is wrong that I have to move in with my niece when and it will look like I am broke or something.
Much smaller closet
No garden tub.
Way way up north-but have the possiblity of working from a north location to save on gas. However, I would still have to drive to other locations frequently for meetings and such.
friends and fun places I like to hang out south and central.
Would have to find a new place April of next year when nieces lease is up b/c they are most likely going to move.


smile.gif I would keep looking for other options....there has to be something better out there.
daverocks
Thanks for the idea! I hadn't thought of that before-putting an add out for a shared apartment.
bJason
QUOTE (daverocks @ June 17, 2008 - 12:41 PM) *
Thanks for the idea! I hadn't thought of that before-putting an add out for a shared apartment.


I like this idea, too. You might even try craigslist.com to see if there are any ads there that interest you and/or post your own. It is free and gets an insane amount of hits.

I understand how trying a time this can be as I am currently faced with a somewhat similar situation. I agree with others that your second option sounds better than the first. Simply reading your presentation tells me that you would go into option 1 unhappy. That is no way to live when it can be avoided.

Best of luck! We'll be pulling for you! smile.gif
bJason
Guess what! I need help again!

I am still working on the song list for my friends wedding reception. I need some ideas for one to serve as the father-of-the-bride/bride dance. She wants R&B/Soul music (a la Barry White, Luther Vandross, Al Green, etc.) and that is NOT my strong point.

Also, she is looking for a verse (maybe Bible but not necessarily) to be read during the service. She is interested in an African tradition of "Jumping the Broom" and it would be great for the verse to have a tie-in if possible. I will do some Googling but thought I'd throw this out to my new board friends for suggestions! smile.gif

Thanks, in advance! PM me if you like.
Radyms13
QUOTE (bJason @ June 17, 2008 - 01:36 PM) *
Guess what! I need help again!

I am still working on the song list for my friends wedding reception. I need some ideas for one to serve as the father-of-the-bride/bride dance. She wants R&B/Soul music (a la Barry White, Luther Vandross, Al Green, etc.) and that is NOT my strong point.

Also, she is looking for a verse (maybe Bible but not necessarily) to be read during the service. She is interested in an African tradition of "Jumping the Broom" and it would be great for the verse to have a tie-in if possible. I will do some Googling but thought I'd throw this out to my new board friends for suggestions! smile.gif

Thanks, in advance! PM me if you like.


Isn't She Lovely by Stevie Wonder would be a great song for the dance. Stevie wrote the song for his own daughter.
dcjewbear
QUOTE (bJason @ June 17, 2008 - 01:36 PM) *
Guess what! I need help again!

I am still working on the song list for my friends wedding reception. I need some ideas for one to serve as the father-of-the-bride/bride dance. She wants R&B/Soul music (a la Barry White, Luther Vandross, Al Green, etc.) and that is NOT my strong point.

Also, she is looking for a verse (maybe Bible but not necessarily) to be read during the service. She is interested in an African tradition of "Jumping the Broom" and it would be great for the verse to have a tie-in if possible. I will do some Googling but thought I'd throw this out to my new board friends for suggestions! smile.gif

Thanks, in advance! PM me if you like.


This may not be what you're looking for, and it does go for more of a slow dance, but is there any song so romantic, or so moving? I love it. It's our song, and we play it any time we need a romantic moment.

Then, again, we're both romantics, at heart.

Some day, when I'm awfully low,
When the world is cold,
I will feel a glow just thinking of you
And the way you look tonight.

You're lovely, with your smile so warm
And your cheeks so soft,
There is nothing for me but to love you,
And the way you look tonight.

With each word your tenderness grows,
Tearing my fear apart...
And that laugh that wrinkles your nose,
It touches my foolish heart.

Lovely ... never, ever change.
Keep that breathless charm.
Won't you please arrange it?
cause I love you ... just the way you look tonight.

With each word your tenderness grows,
Tearing my fear apart...
And that laugh that wrinkles your nose,
It touches my foolish heart.

Lovely ... never, ever change.
Keep that breathless charm.
Won't you please arrange it?
cause I love you ... just the way you look tonight.

Mm, tonight.
onionmark
QUOTE (daverocks @ June 17, 2008 - 08:39 AM) *
Thanks! funny thing is, I used to not be unhappy with option 1. Well at least before bf moved in. I have lived there for 3 years. I guess I am finding it kind of hard to uproot myself (which isn't usually a problem) and I am being a bit materialistic b/c I LOVE my giant room/bathroom and closet! I keep thinking, if I wait it out perhaps bad bf will get cut loose and we can all be happy again! but I am beginning to think that won't happen. Thanks for the objectivity.


Daverocks - I have two ways of looking at this. You have been in your current situation for 3 years, have seniority and can probably outlast @$$* BF. The other way, if you can't decide, is to flip a coin. You are not bound by the coin flip, but will know what you want when it is in the air. wink.gif
bJason
QUOTE (Kristlkrost @ June 17, 2008 - 09:30 PM) *
OK bJ I am gonna throw you down and kiss you.
I just read some really great stuff because of you.
Here's few and this link is good for wedding verse..There is no poem said at the broom ceremony I now know.
I found African poetry but it's not love poetry
But you can buy books cheap on Amazon.
Whooo this is good stuff..If you go to this link go to the very bottom and you will see other links to many things.

Good luck and bless you maid of honor smile.gif


Thanks, ever so!! I knew you could help!
bJason
QUOTE (Radyms13 @ June 17, 2008 - 03:37 PM) *
Isn't She Lovely by Stevie Wonder would be a great song for the dance. Stevie wrote the song for his own daughter.


Great idea! Thanks!
bJason
QUOTE (dcjewbear @ June 17, 2008 - 05:44 PM) *
This may not be what you're looking for, and it does go for more of a slow dance, but is there any song so romantic, or so moving? I love it. It's our song, and we play it any time we need a romantic moment.

Then, again, we're both romantics, at heart.

Some day, when I'm awfully low,
When the world is cold,
I will feel a glow just thinking of you
And the way you look tonight.

You're lovely, with your smile so warm
And your cheeks so soft,
There is nothing for me but to love you,
And the way you look tonight.

With each word your tenderness grows,
Tearing my fear apart...
And that laugh that wrinkles your nose,
It touches my foolish heart.

Lovely ... never, ever change.
Keep that breathless charm.
Won't you please arrange it?
cause I love you ... just the way you look tonight.

With each word your tenderness grows,
Tearing my fear apart...
And that laugh that wrinkles your nose,
It touches my foolish heart.

Lovely ... never, ever change.
Keep that breathless charm.
Won't you please arrange it?
cause I love you ... just the way you look tonight.

Mm, tonight.


OH, that is one of my favorites!! Should have thought of it. Thanks!
chucole
QUOTE (bJason @ June 18, 2008 - 07:56 AM) *
Great idea! Thanks!



I think that's perfect
AndPals
Hey fellow foodies...I'm going to Paris for my first time this summer. Can anyone recommend some places where I MUST dine? Many thanks...
Kristlkrost
QUOTE (AndPals @ June 18, 2008 - 05:04 PM) *
Hey fellow foodies...I'm going to Paris for my first time this summer. Can anyone recommend some places where I MUST dine? Many thanks...


Oh GOD I wish I could but France is a big blur.
Young and drunk tongue.gif Anyone????
ArtInstigator
QUOTE (bJason @ June 17, 2008 - 12:36 PM) *
Guess what! I need help again!

I am still working on the song list for my friends wedding reception. I need some ideas for one to serve as the father-of-the-bride/bride dance. She wants R&B/Soul music (a la Barry White, Luther Vandross, Al Green, etc.) and that is NOT my strong point.

Also, she is looking for a verse (maybe Bible but not necessarily) to be read during the service. She is interested in an African tradition of "Jumping the Broom" and it would be great for the verse to have a tie-in if possible. I will do some Googling but thought I'd throw this out to my new board friends for suggestions! smile.gif

Thanks, in advance! PM me if you like.

Song of Solomon has many good verses. "Jumping the broom" is how slaves in this country used to marry because they did not have any human rights. It was a way to solemnize their unions when they weren't allowed to marry or have any control over their families. It was recognized by the slaves themselves as a rite of marriage.

It's usually one of the last elements of a wedding ceremony, often right after a prayer or benediction. The couple will jump the broom that has been placed in the aisle (usually the best man does this), then be presented as Mr&Mrs, then the recessional starts. biggrin.gif

Also, I wanted to suggest Stevie Wonder's "I'll Be Loving You Always" for the reception. It's such a celebratory anthem; it gets peeps dancin'. If you plan to have a break in the 2 hours of music (for the cake), play this, and then take a break. Youngins might see some old farts shaking it!

ASK the bride if she has a song in mind for the father/daughter dance! How well do you know the bride's father? Could you ask him for suggestions?

My 23 y/o daughter had her father/bride song picked out by the time she was about 16. wink.gif

AI
bJason
QUOTE (ArtInstigator @ June 18, 2008 - 06:03 PM) *

Song of Solomon has many good verses. "Jumping the broom" is how slaves in this country used to marry because they did not have any human rights. It was a way to solemnize their unions when they weren't allowed to marry or have any control over their families. It was recognized by the slaves themselves as a rite of marriage.

It's usually one of the last elements of a wedding ceremony, often right after a prayer or benediction. The couple will jump the broom that has been placed in the aisle (usually the best man does this), then be presented as Mr&Mrs, then the recessional starts. biggrin.gif

Also, I wanted to suggest Stevie Wonder's "I'll Be Loving You Always" for the reception. It's such a celebratory anthem; it gets peeps dancin'. If you plan to have a break in the 2 hours of music (for the cake), play this, and then take a break. Youngins might see some old farts shaking it!

ASK the bride if she has a song in mind for the father/daughter dance! How well do you know the bride's father? Could you ask him for suggestions?

My 23 y/o daughter had her father/bride song picked out by the time she was about 16. wink.gif

AI


YOU ROCK!! Thanks for the great ideas. One can never go wrong with Stevie Wonder! No one involved in this BUT the bride had ever heard of "jumping the broom". She seems pretty set on it so the info is certainly helpful. It will be a small ceremony (fewer than 20) and the younglings should really enjoy and join in the "shaking" of it! smile.gif

The bride is looking for suggestions on the song but I had not thought about asking the father ("Mr." Pat, whom I do know fairly well) if he has any ideas/preferences - GREAT THOUGHT!

Thanks again! I knew I could find help and inspiration here!
brillke
QUOTE (bJason @ June 18, 2008 - 08:56 AM) *
Great idea! Thanks!




Happy Belated B-day BJ.
TCPhil
QUOTE (bJason @ June 17, 2008 - 12:36 PM) *
Guess what! I need help again!

I am still working on the song list for my friends wedding reception. I need some ideas for one to serve as the father-of-the-bride/bride dance. She wants R&B/Soul music (a la Barry White, Luther Vandross, Al Green, etc.) and that is NOT my strong point.

Also, she is looking for a verse (maybe Bible but not necessarily) to be read during the service. She is interested in an African tradition of "Jumping the Broom" and it would be great for the verse to have a tie-in if possible. I will do some Googling but thought I'd throw this out to my new board friends for suggestions! smile.gif

Thanks, in advance! PM me if you like.


I'm particular to the verses in one of Paul's letters(I think to the Corinthians)where he admonishes husbands, "...To respect your wife..."
There is almost a whole chapter in Proverbs, that deals with the "spousal" relationship...
And of course the standard ..."Love is not selfish..." verses-again Paul, and again Corinthians...
Kristlkrost
QUOTE (bJason @ June 18, 2008 - 07:12 PM) *
YOU ROCK!! Thanks for the great ideas. One can never go wrong with Stevie Wonder! No one involved in this BUT the bride had ever heard of "jumping the broom". She seems pretty set on it so the info is certainly helpful. It will be a small ceremony (fewer than 20) and the younglings should really enjoy and join in the "shaking" of it! smile.gif

The bride is looking for suggestions on the song but I had not thought about asking the father ("Mr." Pat, whom I do know fairly well) if he has any ideas/preferences - GREAT THOUGHT!

Thanks again! I knew I could find help and inspiration here!


Hey I was wondering is your friend who plays Elton going??

'Cause this is gonna' be my wedding
song if I ever get married again.
Which is highly unlikely as marriage to
me is truly an insane proposition.
oh pun lol

Like Katherine Hepburn said:

Men and women should live next door
to each other and visit.
I actually literally had that for a few years.
It was GREAT!!!


NOTHING can take the romance out of a
relationship like having to say over and over again :

Are you impaired in some way???

Please don't make those sounds.
I feel like I'm gonna' be sick.

AGAIN??????? tongue.gif

Must you dance naked in
the mirror every morning and shake
that thing?????

And you know this just goes to everything

PICK THEM UP!!!!!

OK Now that I've ruined the love fest.lol
My song...Not YOUR song Elton you divalicious
tiara wearer....MY SONG!!!


I NEED YOU TO TURN TO
(boy do I ever)

I'm dedicating this one to you Wales.
'Cause you were always there no matter
and still are.
(shh I'm sure he reads here tongue.gif )



You're not a ship to carry my life
You are nailed to my love in many lonely nights
I've strayed from the cottages and found myself here
For I need your love your love protects my fears

And I wonder sometimes and I know I'm unkind
But I need you to turn to when I act so blind
And I need you to turn to when I lose control
You're my guardian angel who keeps out the cold

Did you paint your smile on, well I said I knew
That my reason for living was for loving you
We're related in feeling but you're high above
You're pure and you're gentle with the grace of a dove
Jazzie53-Cyberklutz
QUOTE (dbltrble @ June 19, 2008 - 03:25 AM) *
my guess is your manuscript is like your porch - fake ~roflmao~


laugh.gif Sorry honey....the porch is virtual, not "fake" and is as real as we choose to imagine it.

The manuscript, however, titled "Confronting the Demon" is very real. Contract's been put forth by PublishAmerica aquisitions department, deadline August first, up to 365 days to get published. If it were a fantasy, I wouldn't be stressing over deadlines LOL!

And, speaking of fantasies, I've been working on one about a burned out fairy godmother.....got an opening or two for trolls, want to apply for the job?????
happy.gif
TaterTot
QUOTE (Kristlkrost @ June 18, 2008 - 04:24 PM) *
Oh GOD I wish I could but France is a big blur.
Young and drunk tongue.gif Anyone????


France, you say? Well...I did spend the night at the Holiday Inn Express in Paris. Paris,Texas, that is. tongue.gif
TaterTot
QUOTE (dbltrble @ June 19, 2008 - 03:25 AM) *
my guess is your manuscript is like your porch - fake ~roflmao~


... if it is like her porch, it will be delightful! Jazzie's porch is peaceful, beautiful, with purple flowers ( wisteria?), there is a cool breeze, jazmine tea...how could anyone not like that? If you just close your eyes and imagine it...it can actually lower your blood pressure. smile.gif
dcjewbear
QUOTE (dbltrble @ June 19, 2008 - 04:25 AM) *
my guess is your manuscript is like your porch - fake ~roflmao~


Jazzie is my friend, and, by being published, she's also my hero. There are those writers out there, like me, who write book after book and never get published, so she has my admiration and support.

And, I don't see you writing about anything significant, except, maybe, trying to rip apart someone else's dream coming true. I find that disturbing, so, you know, f*ck off.
dcjewbear
I went to the Terrace theater last night to see Dan
Guerrero's show, "Gaytino", with my friend, Jose. I wanted to take Drew, but he said it would be too much trouble, the show was my kind of "thing", and I should take my Latino ex, because it would be something we could enjoy together. Is he a great guy, or what?

I got to Jose's place and found he was wearing a dress kilt, and since I'm his same size, off we went in our dress kilts. I'm never really all that comfortable in a kilt, but it, somehow, made the event more special, and the show is wonderful, so it was worth it. He's touring with it now, and if you have the chance I strongly urge you to go. You will have a great time.

Afterwards we were having a drink on the terrace, and a friend told me that Cyd Charrise had passed away. It made me sad. I remember going to see a show of "The Band Wagon" and "Singin' in the Rain" many years ago, and rhapsodising about Cyd afterwards. She had the big dance number with Gene Kelly in "Singin in the Rain", but what really had me was her number with Astaire to "Dancing in the Dark" in "The Band Wagon".

They start the number out as two strangers walking together, and, all of a sudden they are dancing. That number always felt, to me, what it was like to fall in love. It could happen to you. I've seen that movie many times since then, and I always treasure that woman. She once had her legs insured for $5,000,000.00, and that, somehow, seemed like a good buy. She was wonderful, and, though she hadn't worked for a long time, I will miss her.
2pooped2see
Jazzie,

I need to resign my porch duties and ask that you give them to someone else. I need to leave. (see page 17 if you need to see why) I left you a bushel of peaches. Hope the writing goes well and the school thing turns out well!!

2P
WhataJoke
QUOTE (2pooped2see @ June 19, 2008 - 02:42 PM) *
Jazzie,

I need to resign my porch duties and ask that you give them to someone else. I need to leave. (see page 17 if you need to see why) I left you a bushel of peaches. Hope the writing goes well and the school thing turns out well!!

2P

2p what happened?!? PM me if you don't want the details to be shared.
Jazzie53-Cyberklutz
QUOTE (2pooped2see @ June 19, 2008 - 02:42 PM) *
Jazzie,

I need to resign my porch duties and ask that you give them to someone else. I need to leave. (see page 17 if you need to see why) I left you a bushel of peaches. Hope the writing goes well and the school thing turns out well!!

2P


Thank you for the peaches. The porch door is always open to you, whether on the TC or any other Bravo board. Please take care, and check your PM's!
Love
Jazzie
Sampeg
dfp.
Sampeg
QUOTE (2pooped2see @ June 19, 2008 - 03:42 PM) *
Jazzie,

I need to resign my porch duties and ask that you give them to someone else. I need to leave. (see page 17 if you need to see why) I left you a bushel of peaches. Hope the writing goes well and the school thing turns out well!!

2P


2p, please reconsider. WTH is going on around here?!?


Jazzie53-Cyberklutz
QUOTE (sampeg @ June 19, 2008 - 10:37 PM) *
2p, please reconsider. WTH is going on around here?!?


Peg.....I wish I knew.
daverocks
QUOTE (Jazzie53 @ June 19, 2008 - 11:35 PM) *
Peg.....I wish I knew.



Well, I was shocked. I was on the board posting when she was posting and everything was fine then all the sudden, boom, she posts this post, not replying to anyone but basically saying that people were saying she was telling untruths or that what she was saying wasn't true. It was all very odd. I thought, wtf did I miss THIS time (as apparently I have missed a lot!) so I went backward to see if there were some weird issues. I didn't really see anyone say anything to her or call her out on anything. We weren't even talking about anything remotely personal or seemed could be harmful. But whatever happened, it must have been very personal to her b/c she wasted no time getting out of there. We were talking about the phrase, "The Pot Calling the Kettle Black" and for some reason B&B had brought up the world 'niggardly' and it's meaning and how in many other countries people don't misconstrue it's meaning like happens here. It was all very light compared to some of the outright [expletive deleted] that has been going on around here to be honest. but, I don't want to make light of whatever it was, b/c obviously it affected her more strongly than anyone on the thread at the time could have realized I hate it though, i really liked her. She is so down to earth.
sfekty
QUOTE (daverocks @ June 20, 2008 - 12:32 AM) *
Well, I was shocked. I was on the board posting when she was posting and everything was fine then all the sudden, boom, she posts this post, not replying to anyone but basically saying that people were saying she was telling untruths or that what she was saying wasn't true. It was all very odd. I thought, wtf did I miss THIS time (as apparently I have missed a lot!) so I went backward to see if there were some weird issues. I didn't really see anyone say anything to her or call her out on anything. We weren't even talking about anything remotely personal or seemed could be harmful. But whatever happened, it must have been very personal to her b/c she wasted no time getting out of there. We were talking about the phrase, "The Pot Calling the Kettle Black" and for some reason B&B had brought up the world 'niggardly' and it's meaning and how in many other countries people don't misconstrue it's meaning like happens here. It was all very light compared to some of the outright [expletive deleted] that has been going on around here to be honest. but, I don't want to make light of whatever it was, b/c obviously it affected her more strongly than anyone on the thread at the time could have realized I hate it though, i really liked her. She is so down to earth.


I have to wonder if something is going on behind the scenes. PMs or something we know nothing about. 2P has always been down to earth, I think it would take something major to cause her to post what she did. Not that I know her well, but her posts are always good ones.
TaterTot
QUOTE (daverocks @ June 20, 2008 - 12:32 AM) *
Well, I was shocked. I was on the board posting when she was posting and everything was fine then all the sudden, boom, she posts this post, not replying to anyone but basically saying that people were saying she was telling untruths or that what she was saying wasn't true. It was all very odd. I thought, wtf did I miss THIS time (as apparently I have missed a lot!) so I went backward to see if there were some weird issues. I didn't really see anyone say anything to her or call her out on anything. We weren't even talking about anything remotely personal or seemed could be harmful. But whatever happened, it must have been very personal to her b/c she wasted no time getting out of there. We were talking about the phrase, "The Pot Calling the Kettle Black" and for some reason B&B had brought up the world 'niggardly' and it's meaning and how in many other countries people don't misconstrue it's meaning like happens here. It was all very light compared to some of the outright [expletive deleted] that has been going on around here to be honest. but, I don't want to make light of whatever it was, b/c obviously it affected her more strongly than anyone on the thread at the time could have realized I hate it though, i really liked her. She is so down to earth.


Maybe I should just let this blow over, but I think I might know what hurt her feelings, so I am going to offer this as one example of what MIGHT have caused this. I feel real bad about this as I am the one who opened this particular can of worms with the topic of the pot and kettle. But, I read back through the posts and think that post #200 on page 10 could possibly have caused her feelings to be hurt. It is a post about the word "redneck"...in which she says that some wear the word as a badge of honor.Anyway the reply to her post had a link to wiki.. about the word and the poster said no one would consider being called a redneck an honor. If I had seen the post in time I would have agreed with 2P2S because around here (South Texas)...what she says is absolutely true. Anyway the poster is not from the south. Not ALL people from the south would consider it a "badge of honor". But there ARE those who are proud of being a redneck.I do not think anyone set out to hurt her feelings...and I wish I had stayed off the boards yesterday morn. sad.gif
daverocks
QUOTE (TaterTot @ June 20, 2008 - 01:16 PM) *
Maybe I should just let this blow over, but I think I might know what hurt her feelings, so I am going to offer this as one example of what MIGHT have caused this. I feel real bad about this as I am the one who opened this particular can of worms with the topic of the pot and kettle. But, I read back through the posts and think that post #200 on page 10 could possibly have caused her feelings to be hurt. It is a post about the word "redneck"...in which she says that some wear the word as a badge of honor.Anyway the reply to her post had a link to wiki.. about the word and the poster said no one would consider being called a redneck an honor. If I had seen the post in time I would have agreed with 2P2S because around here (South Texas)...what she says is absolutely true. Anyway the poster is not from the south. Not ALL people from the south would consider it a "badge of honor". But there ARE those who are proud of being a redneck.I do not think anyone set out to hurt her feelings...and I wish I had stayed off the boards yesterday morn. sad.gif


Oh my gosh! I do remember that post you are referring to me. It didn't even dawn on me about that. Guess b/c I am from the South and I know some people do wear it like a badge of honor. I wish I had picked up on it, I certainly would have backed her up. Well that is too bad and I hope she reconsiders if that was the case and comes back. 2P we KNOW you are telling the truth.
dcjewbear
QUOTE (daverocks @ June 20, 2008 - 01:46 PM) *
Oh my gosh! I do remember that post you are referring to me. It didn't even dawn on me about that. Guess b/c I am from the South and I know some people do wear it like a badge of honor. I wish I had picked up on it, I certainly would have backed her up. Well that is too bad and I hope she reconsiders if that was the case and comes back. 2P we KNOW you are telling the truth.


It seems like different people react to the word in different ways. It doesn't really bother me, as my southern relatives are very sophisticated people, and someone calling them that just seems funny to me. It's usually from people who aren't nearly as smart as they are.

I do know people who take it as a badge of honour, and that's just wrong. It is a slur, but if someone calls me a redneck, when I have my southern on, I just let it go. Then again, when people call me a f*g I feel the same way. It doesn't change who I am, and if someone is ignorant enough to go there, then why would I dignify it?

Of course, I did not see the post, and it really could have been intolerably offensive. You will pardon me if I choose not to track it down, as it's not worth the possible annoyance it would cost me, but if you know who you are, then just shine it on, and continue to be who you are. It changes nothing to you, or those who know you. You know what's real.

I certainly know it wouldn't affect what I like, or cause me to alter my ways. I am who I am, and I do what I do.
WhataJoke
QUOTE (sfekty @ June 20, 2008 - 06:53 AM) *
I have to wonder if something is going on behind the scenes. PMs or something we know nothing about. 2P has always been down to earth, I think it would take something major to cause her to post what she did. Not that I know her well, but her posts are always good ones.


Something is always going on behind the scenes here unfortunately, especially in PM's. I wouldn't rule it out, thats for sure. It hasn't always been the case but now it seems that way.

I can't for the life of me figure out why 2p left. It's pretty sad that this is still happening.
dcjewbear
QUOTE (WhataJoke @ June 20, 2008 - 05:08 PM) *
Something is always going on behind the scenes here unfortunately, especially in PM's. I wouldn't rule it out, thats for sure. It hasn't always been the case but now it seems that way.

I can't for the life of me figure out why 2p left. It's pretty sad that this is still happening.


I've never really been able to sort out my feelings about the "personal message" in this sort of setting. We get them from people who don't know us, and feel free to get down and dirty, without the hinderance of it being in plain sight of other people. Therefore, a "personal message" is anything but that, because, really, how well do we know most people on a chat board? I guess the answer to that is just well enough to feel free to insult people that we'll never meet, away from the confines of civility that other readers would impose.

If you use it for that purpose then it's really kind of pathetic.
2pooped2see
I am making this one post just for clarification:

I had to go into my account to get an e-mail address when I saw a few PMs of concern. I also see that it is a general thought I'm leaving because of "the redneck thing". No it's not the "redneck thing". I live in what the locals call "Redneck Country", but I don't consider myself one and though nothing of it. So Tater, it wasn't you - far from it.

Since I have been here, there has been comings and unfortunately goings of people. I used to be able to post with fun and even live up to my "Got humor - will use it" signature. Now, there is a select group that used every opportunity to put down and belittle what I said in intelligent conversations almost every time I open my keyboard - and it happened over and over again.

The fun is gone. I am worn down and I don't even know if I want to try to gain the desire to try again. And it wasn't even a troll that did it.
dogabone
Do you want to play a game? We do this at my office. Following the phrase: "In my next job—" you name something your current job doesn't offer (even if it's a job you love) that you'd like. The service you'd like must be something that is actually offered by some companies, so your "wish" must be realistic.

For example, in my next job, I'd like my lunch break to be included within my 8-hour work day; I'd like not to have to fill out a timesheet; and I'd like to be reimbursed for my bus and subway fares.

Who's next?
daverocks
QUOTE (2pooped2see @ June 20, 2008 - 05:05 PM) *
I am making this one post just for clarification:

I had to go into my account to get an e-mail address when I saw a few PMs of concern. I also see that it is a general thought I'm leaving because of "the redneck thing". No it's not the "redneck thing". I live in what the locals call "Redneck Country", but I don't consider myself one and though nothing of it. So Tater, it wasn't you - far from it.

Since I have been here, there has been comings and unfortunately goings of people. I used to be able to post with fun and even live up to my "Got humor - will use it" signature. Now, there is a select group that used every opportunity to put down and belittle what I said in intelligent conversations almost every time I open my keyboard - and it happened over and over again.

The fun is gone. I am worn down and I don't even know if I want to try to gain the desire to try again. And it wasn't even a troll that did it.



Well, I tuess you won't see if this if you don't come back, but I will say it anyway. I am so sorry, and I do understand. I hope you didn't take anything I said that way b/c I have experienced or read exactly what you are talking about. I think some people just LOVE to hear themselves talk or really feel they are going to educate people but sometimes it does get old and makes you feel like they think you are ignorant. I know some people think it's childish but I have put some people on ignore b/c of it. There are still a lot of people here who want to have fun and we'd love to have you back! We miss you already smile.gif
sfekty
QUOTE (WhataJoke @ June 20, 2008 - 04:08 PM) *
Something is always going on behind the scenes here unfortunately, especially in PM's. I wouldn't rule it out, thats for sure. It hasn't always been the case but now it seems that way.

I can't for the life of me figure out why 2p left. It's pretty sad that this is still happening.


Oh. Makes sense.

And yet, there have been so many times I wondered why peeps didn't take their bickering, for want of a better word, to PM, I guess I figured it wasn't used much. Huh.

Anyway. 2P, I wish you'd come back. Just put those PMers on ignore.

Maybe it's a good thing the season is over.
Fordmanrod
QUOTE (sampeg @ June 19, 2008 - 10:37 PM) *
2p, please reconsider. WTH is going on around here?!?




2P.... what she said goes for me too.... and to all of the other regular posters that are having second thoughts regarding thier participation here..... PLEASE DONT GO!!!! All of you are important to this group and I would hate to think that this can't be worked out.
Jazzie53-Cyberklutz
QUOTE (Fordmanrod @ June 20, 2008 - 08:21 PM) *
2P.... what she said goes for me too.... and to all of the other regular posters that are having second thoughts regarding thier participation here..... PLEASE DONT GO!!!! All of you are important to this group and I would hate to think that this can't be worked out.


*APPLAUSE* I agree.
Jazzie53-Cyberklutz
QUOTE (dcjewbear @ June 19, 2008 - 01:07 PM) *
Jazzie is my friend, and, by being published, she's also my hero. There are those writers out there, like me, who write book after book and never get published, so she has my admiration and support.


Bear.....thank you so very much! It seems appropriate to share this here off your wonderful post....I actually received the contract in the mail today. I want to quote you the last sentence from the cover letter:

"Welcome onboard, and congratulations on what must be a dream coming true!"

My dream is in the process of becoming reality, and still needs a lot of hard work before it happens. I mean this....I hope that someday you find a way to put your work out there too!

Jazzie
Radyms13
Hey Pita....How you doin???
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