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Hi gang...I'll bring the jicima tacos, to the porch... ...
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Anyone know when this was filmed?
There hasn't been a nice day like that since October? Its been snowing until this week and we are probably getting more snow!
There hasn't been a nice day like that since October? Its been snowing until this week and we are probably getting more snow!
OK - can't figure how to use velveeta for mac and cheese? hmmm. why is it that chefs can find 101 ways to cook pig feet but can't do mac and cheese?
I missed what she was trying to add that she was afraid it would coagulate?
I missed what she was trying to add that she was afraid it would coagulate?
QUOTE (mypeapod1213 @ March 26, 2008 - 09:25 PM) 
OK - can't figure how to use velveeta for mac and cheese? hmmm. why is it that chefs can find 101 ways to cook pig feet but can't do mac and cheese?
I missed what she was trying to add that she was afraid it would coagulate?
I missed what she was trying to add that she was afraid it would coagulate?
She needs to add more liquid ingredients She might have to double it up, if she knew in advance that it was going to sit for a while. Like cream... milk, IDK... something for it not to get so hard.
But the one I'm concerned the most now is Erik with his fried hot dogs or whatever you call them!
Still no new thread....the Gods of Bravo are getting lazy!!!
This was an interesting challenge. How come they couldn't have truck kitchens?
This was an interesting challenge. How come they couldn't have truck kitchens?
QUOTE (mypeapod1213 @ March 26, 2008 - 09:25 PM)
OK - can't figure how to use velveeta for mac and cheese? hmmm. why is it that chefs can find 101 ways to cook pig feet but can't do mac and cheese?
I missed what she was trying to add that she was afraid it would coagulate?
I missed what she was trying to add that she was afraid it would coagulate?
IMHO...Velveeta, is only good for two things-it rocks, in a grilled-cheese-sandwich...And nothing melts better for mac-n-cheese...
Other than that it's pretty much usless...
Ok it also works as a dip...
wow- I noticed the judges are keeping their comments unitl judges table. At the challenge, the judges are like "Yum!" but later its "your food sucked".
weird--- what happened? the corn dog lost to the brick of mac-n-cheese.
Ah! the throwing under the bus begins!
weird--- what happened? the corn dog lost to the brick of mac-n-cheese.
Ah! the throwing under the bus begins!
One of the lovebirds is leaving the nest it seems.
QUOTE (mypeapod1213 @ March 26, 2008 - 09:50 PM)
wow- I noticed the judges are keeping their comments unitl judges table. At the challenge, the judges are like "Yum!" but later its "your food sucked".
weird--- what happened? the corn dog lost to the brick of mac-n-cheese.
Ah! the throwing under the bus begins!
weird--- what happened? the corn dog lost to the brick of mac-n-cheese.
Ah! the throwing under the bus begins!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what?????????????????????????
Beep, Beep!!!!!!
(the bus is coming!!!)
why is padma on this show?
awww. bye erik. I liked him. 
Nope they got rid of the bear... ...
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QUOTE (bonkerz @ March 26, 2008 - 10:57 PM)
why is padma on this show?
To keep me a lesbian on Tuesdays and Saturdays????
She turned me
I like her but I know many do not but she sure is a very beautiful woman.
Tom was so sexy in his jeans!!!
Erik got hosed. They pretty much wanted to keep the Lebanese couple togeather.
QUOTE (WhataJoke @ March 26, 2008 - 11:05 PM)
Erik got hosed. They pretty much wanted to keep the Lebanese couple togeather.
You made me speeeeeet!
QUOTE (psh072857 @ March 26, 2008 - 09:48 PM)
IMHO...Velveeta, is only good for two things-it rocks, in a grilled-cheese-sandwich...And nothing melts better for mac-n-cheese...
Other than that it's pretty much usless...
Ok it also works as a dip...
Other than that it's pretty much usless...
Ok it also works as a dip...
Pssst Psh you forgot one.... broccolli cheese soup.. to die for.
QUOTE (actor59 @ March 26, 2008 - 10:12 PM)
Pssst Psh you forgot one.... broccolli cheese soup.. to die for.
Ok 4 things...lol...
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Wow, what an extreme upset.
QUOTE (MicrowaveHo @ March 26, 2008 - 12:22 AM)
Okay, while we concede that both of our points may be moot...
There are many ways they could push each other to the top. They could discuss recipes, enhancing one another's dishes. This could be done while they shop or while they are at home. They could help each other out in the kitchen (this isn't against the rules or at least it hasn't been in past seasons.) Or when one of them wins immunity they can put their two heads together in order for the opposite one to win (or at least not be eliminated) during the EC.
The point being, that two heads may certainly work to their advantage. As well as the fact that each one of them would have a vested interest in seeing at least one of them win. Now that is an advantage that nobody else there has. The others there are there as an individual force to be reckoned with.... and once they are gone, they are gone. But with this couple... they have the potential to carry each other to the end.
There are many ways they could push each other to the top. They could discuss recipes, enhancing one another's dishes. This could be done while they shop or while they are at home. They could help each other out in the kitchen (this isn't against the rules or at least it hasn't been in past seasons.) Or when one of them wins immunity they can put their two heads together in order for the opposite one to win (or at least not be eliminated) during the EC.
The point being, that two heads may certainly work to their advantage. As well as the fact that each one of them would have a vested interest in seeing at least one of them win. Now that is an advantage that nobody else there has. The others there are there as an individual force to be reckoned with.... and once they are gone, they are gone. But with this couple... they have the potential to carry each other to the end.
I have to disagree; there is virtually no way to 'carry' another person, unless you are going to sacrifice yourself. Also, you miss my point that the advantages that you do mention, e.g. two heads are better than one, does not require the two people to be a couple before the show started; it could happen with any two or three people. Many times in the past 3 seasons we have seen two or more chefs that just 'clicked', and they started bouncing ideas off each other. Frankly, it has usually ended up being a disadvantage. Howie & Joey start getting along and Joeys gone. Tre and Casey start using each other as a sounding board and Tre is eliminated. That is a particularly good example. Casey had the time to work on the bread pudding but didn't because Tre said he had it handled. (If I remember correctly, she said later she wished she had helped!)
And now, with tonights show (I'm still getting caught up), there is an even better example. Zoi almost went home because Jennifer didn't bother to tell her she needed to get some flavor in her pasta salad.
QUOTE (actor59 @ March 19, 2008 - 09:56 PM)
How about on the TC board....
Whoever is running these boards is doing a terrible job! We're commenting on Episode 3 aren't we? At any rate, that ass who threatened the judges should have his sorry ass sent home!!!
QUOTE (LostinBravo @ March 26, 2008 - 08:44 PM)
My boyfriend is a lefty too!
not too much wrong with a lefty.
got one here as well.
QUOTE (Maludi @ March 26, 2008 - 09:01 PM)
Okay guys, where is epi three thread?
seriously. what a tragedy.
QUOTE (teleburst @ March 26, 2008 - 01:48 AM)
I think Tom is there to represent the restaurant community, and therefore give credibility to the panel. And, since he's not a writer, or a foodie celebrity, or a foxy hostess, he's sort of the "continuity" of the show (the yin to Padma's yang, so to speak). And I think that's the contradiction. We expect the "continuity" to be consistant, as those two terms are twinned. And yet, we also expect him to be an advocate to the "chef/restaurant community". I'd argue that this puts him in almost an untenable situation. Anytime he exposes his inner thoughts, he's in a Catch-22. He can't really just pop in and out like a Bourdain or Rocco.
He'd be better served not blogging at all, but this too is expected of him. And once he's "honest" about his feelings and judging criteria, he's drawn and quartered for it (heck, I've done it myself). Now, I"m as much a fan of pilloring people as anyone (as is obvious at this point). And, frankly, WAJ is a prime example of how this drama thing works. Without WAJ, and similar folks (and me too, I guess), this thing falls flat. What good is it for Gordon Ramsey to go into a successful restaurant? What good is it to have a show where people can't argue about sometimes inane stuff?
My point is that the target that has been set is perhaps about 30 yards outside of the shooting range. We seem to accept the premise that the show should be "fair", should be "consistant". I say, NAY!, NAY, I tell you, NAY! I think that this is a false value that's being promulgated. I think that Bravo would like for the contest to be perceived as fair and unbiased, only as far as it brings people to the party. But once the party starts, the idea is to create a tension that keeps people watching. And some of this is the idea that your favorite could be tossed because an evil judge has it for your fav. Or that they have the flu the day of filming. Or that a guest judge throws a monkeywrench into things.
I guess that's what makes things interesting, because it becomes a platform for fans disagreeing, agreeing, and bitching about pedantry and "nitpicking".
He'd be better served not blogging at all, but this too is expected of him. And once he's "honest" about his feelings and judging criteria, he's drawn and quartered for it (heck, I've done it myself). Now, I"m as much a fan of pilloring people as anyone (as is obvious at this point). And, frankly, WAJ is a prime example of how this drama thing works. Without WAJ, and similar folks (and me too, I guess), this thing falls flat. What good is it for Gordon Ramsey to go into a successful restaurant? What good is it to have a show where people can't argue about sometimes inane stuff?
My point is that the target that has been set is perhaps about 30 yards outside of the shooting range. We seem to accept the premise that the show should be "fair", should be "consistant". I say, NAY!, NAY, I tell you, NAY! I think that this is a false value that's being promulgated. I think that Bravo would like for the contest to be perceived as fair and unbiased, only as far as it brings people to the party. But once the party starts, the idea is to create a tension that keeps people watching. And some of this is the idea that your favorite could be tossed because an evil judge has it for your fav. Or that they have the flu the day of filming. Or that a guest judge throws a monkeywrench into things.
I guess that's what makes things interesting, because it becomes a platform for fans disagreeing, agreeing, and bitching about pedantry and "nitpicking".
The only problem with the concept that the judging is based on drama is that, time and time again, at least until the finals, the worst dish, (or the worst dish on the losing team) has gone home. I'll say it again, the editing is done for drama; the elimination is All (almost) About the Food!
QUOTE (Maludi @ March 26, 2008 - 09:01 PM)
Okay guys, where is epi three thread?
Dang Maludi...thats what I was wondering...thought I was lost in space...cyber space that is.
AND...not sorry to see Erik go...din't care for him...and didn't/don't care for the idiot who said they would have to call security to get him out. I would have made SURE too call security. Hope he goes next.
QUOTE (JMGARG @ March 26, 2008 - 11:53 PM)
seriously. what a tragedy.
I don't care about threads either.
QUOTE (WhataJoke @ March 26, 2008 - 10:05 PM)
Erik got hosed. They pretty much wanted to keep the Lebanese couple togeather.
That one HAS to go into the "tower of sigs"...
...Welcome...
QUOTE (sizzler @ March 26, 2008 - 11:56 PM)
Dang Maludi...thats what I was wondering...thought I was lost in space...cyber space that is.
AND...not sorry to see Erik go...din't care for him...and didn't/don't care for the idiot who said they would have to call security to get him out. I would have made SURE too call security. Hope he goes next.
AND...not sorry to see Erik go...din't care for him...and didn't/don't care for the idiot who said they would have to call security to get him out. I would have made SURE too call security. Hope he goes next.
Man he was over the top
QUOTE (Kristlkrost @ March 26, 2008 - 09:15 PM)
Hiccupama!!! 
I say Richard goes to the finals.
Why aren't I feeling the ladies????
Don't say it Psh
I say Richard goes to the finals.
Why aren't I feeling the ladies????
Don't say it Psh
Hey KK...here I am..and can't believe they already have Erik as the "pack your knives and go guy" already on the Boards. That was pretty fast concidering the diff time zones. BUT...glad he is gone. Dont care for Andrew, but bet Richard does go to the finals..and Stephanie. Maybe Nikki, maybe Mark. Can't believe Manuel lost on the taco challenge. He looked shocked. lol
QUOTE (Kristlkrost @ March 26, 2008 - 09:59 PM)
Oh well...... I knew no way corn dogs.
Would never travel well.
Why would he do that????
Would never travel well.
Why would he do that????
The one thing I have noticed on these shows, and it still amazes me, is that they cook something they KNOW is not "portable" or a do ahead meal..they actually SAY that...and then cook it anyway and are SHOCKED when it flops????...how crazy is that???
QUOTE (sizzler @ March 26, 2008 - 11:01 PM)
Hey KK...here I am..and can't believe they already have Erik as the "pack your knives and go guy" already on the Boards. That was pretty fast concidering the diff time zones. BUT...glad he is gone. Dont care for Andrew, but bet Richard does go to the finals..and Stephanie. Maybe Nikki, maybe Mark. Can't believe Manuel lost on the taco challenge. He looked shocked. lol
Manuel? Dont you mean......Memo? lol.
QUOTE (Esurb @ March 26, 2008 - 10:50 PM)
Whoever is running these boards is doing a terrible job! We're commenting on Episode 3 aren't we? At any rate, that ass who threatened the judges should have his sorry ass sent home!!!
He was so sure they had "killed" in that challenge! He wasn't as delusional as Stephen in season 1 when he was shocked to be called in on the losing team! I should have realized it was just looking to good for one team and a total disaster for the other! How did that happen? One team had a huge advantage ripping off all that stuff at that one pantry! They all should have known frying something and packaging it up for a couple hours would just be "death" to that dish! I'm sure it sucked! Justice was served I guess!
QUOTE (WhataJoke @ March 26, 2008 - 10:05 PM)
Erik got hosed. They pretty much wanted to keep the Lebanese couple togeather.
ROTFLMAO...THAT...is one of the funniest statements made here.
QUOTE (Kristlkrost @ March 26, 2008 - 11:00 PM)
Man he was over the top
True, he was a bit over the hedge with that comment. Somewhat ghettttoooo. All time fav is harold. Im not trying to go back in time or nothing, but this past october, we got to eat at harold's Perilla in New York. Good stuff btw. Anyway, he is all time fav for me. If you take a look at his blog on season 4, and are a fan of his as well, he seems to get a kick out of the guy. I think he has potential, a bit out there. possibly snortin too much of the powdered sugar, but he gots skillz.
QUOTE (JMGARG @ March 26, 2008 - 11:06 PM)
Manuel? Dont you mean......Memo? lol.
LOL...guess I didn't get that memo....hahahahahahahaha
QUOTE (IronChef @ March 26, 2008 - 06:07 PM)
I didn't get to see the end of that round. So, a sandwich won? Was it the Twisted Philly, the Plantain or the Squash? I'm hoping it was the Philly, because the plantain version didn't seem that appetizing to me, and I can't stand squash.
The Plantain won; great mix of flavors. However, when Friday's adapted it for the restaurant, they only used a little plantain, didn't smash them, and put the whole thing between slices of bread.
QUOTE (Bed & Breakfast @ March 26, 2008 - 11:12 PM)
The Plantain won; great mix of flavors. However, when Friday's adapted it for the restaurant, they only used a little plantain, didn't smash them, and put the whole thing between slices of bread.
hrrrrm, season two or season three?
QUOTE (sizzler @ March 26, 2008 - 11:12 PM)
LOL...guess I didn't get that memo....hahahahahahahaha
the only reason i caught it was cuz i have a friend named manuel and they call him Meme'. (no not Mee Mee, more like Meh Meh)
Good times!
QUOTE (JMGARG @ March 26, 2008 - 11:15 PM)
hrrrrm, season two or season three?
Neither! It's from a show on Food Network.
The judges are arrogant.
I don't know what kind block parties they prefer, but if the Blue team showed up to my block party with the food they did, I'd probably end up walking to the local market and grill myself some hamburgers of my own for lunch. Execution aside, the Red team clearly had their clients in mind... they made dishes that everyone, including the kids, could enjoy.
The judges said that it's insulting to think that the people at the block party wouldn't want gourmet food... if anything, I am insulted that the judges think that typical block party food isn't good enough for me to eat, that my hamburgers and hotdogs should be replaced by upscale food.
I enjoy fine dining, but there is a time and a place. I don't want fine dining at a block party. The judges are arrogant to think that everyone wants to eat elitist food all the time. Good food is good food, but good food that does not fit the occasion is more of a let down that mediocre food that does.
I don't know what kind block parties they prefer, but if the Blue team showed up to my block party with the food they did, I'd probably end up walking to the local market and grill myself some hamburgers of my own for lunch. Execution aside, the Red team clearly had their clients in mind... they made dishes that everyone, including the kids, could enjoy.
The judges said that it's insulting to think that the people at the block party wouldn't want gourmet food... if anything, I am insulted that the judges think that typical block party food isn't good enough for me to eat, that my hamburgers and hotdogs should be replaced by upscale food.
I enjoy fine dining, but there is a time and a place. I don't want fine dining at a block party. The judges are arrogant to think that everyone wants to eat elitist food all the time. Good food is good food, but good food that does not fit the occasion is more of a let down that mediocre food that does.
QUOTE (sizzler @ March 27, 2008 - 12:05 AM)
The one thing I have noticed on these shows, and it still amazes me, is that they cook something they KNOW is not "portable" or a do ahead meal..they actually SAY that...and then cook it anyway and are SHOCKED when it flops????...how crazy is that???
Those dogs did look delish.... but fried food has to be served piping hot from the fryer.........oy!!
I was on the fence with him..Wasn't sure if I liked him or not yet... This cast does seem a bit rough around the cheese grater.....no???
I mean I'm surprised Andrew didn't pull out a
pistol and take Padma hostage..And then she would say......*Andrew was that a
pistol in your pocket or were you just happy to seize me*
Did any one notice that TED ALLEN called the Waldorf Salad a dish that originated in the middle america? Hahaha. And he's a NY Foodie? He probably walks by the WALDORF Astoria all the time!
I wish he'd read this...he's a little too pretentious for his own good.
I wish he'd read this...he's a little too pretentious for his own good.
QUOTE (sizzler @ March 26, 2008 - 10:56 PM)
Dang Maludi...thats what I was wondering...thought I was lost in space...cyber space that is.
AND...not sorry to see Erik go...din't care for him...and didn't/don't care for the idiot who said they would have to call security to get him out. I would have made SURE too call security. Hope he goes next.
AND...not sorry to see Erik go...din't care for him...and didn't/don't care for the idiot who said they would have to call security to get him out. I would have made SURE too call security. Hope he goes next.
I am(sorry to see him go)...He might have been an interesting personality...Can't help it I find the whole "skin-head" look, kind of a turn on(NOT THE ATTITUDE, OR THE IDIOLOGY)...I've only known(NOT in the biblical sense)one...And he was a FORMER skin-head...He actually designed me a tat of St. Michael, the avenger with an "hard-on"...Maybe I like the "romantisized" version...
QUOTE (madamefortin @ March 27, 2008 - 12:20 AM)
Did any one notice that TED ALLEN called the Waldorf Salad a dish that originated in the middle america? Hahaha. And he's a NY Foodie? He probably walks by the WALDORF Astoria all the time!
I wish he'd read this...he's a little too pretentious for his own good.
I wish he'd read this...he's a little too pretentious for his own good.
Good observation madame ....I didn't even think of that & I'm a NY awker....BUT I love Ted
AND Waldorf Salads..I even like Plaza salads
but not the Trump...A bit too rich for moi
http://www.kitchenproject.com/history/
Waldorf_Salad.htm
QUOTE (psh072857 @ March 27, 2008 - 12:25 AM)
I am(sorry to see him go)...He might have been an interesting personality...Can't help it I find the whole "skin-head" look, kind of a turn on(NOT THE ATTITUDE, OR THE IDIOLOGY)...I've only known(NOT in the biblical sense)one...And he was a FORMER skin-head...He actually designed me a tat of St. Michael, the avenger with an "hard-on"...Maybe I like the "romantisized" version...
I have a construction
worker-work - boot fantasy!
Diet coke break goils.
Lady Chatterly and all that rot.
Right up your alley Mr. Gardener.
Ryan is really a nice looking guy!
I just noticed as I was always too busy looking at Tom
QUOTE (Jim in NYC @ March 27, 2008 - 12:34 AM)
That would be Andrew, who I've heard (either here or on IMDb's boards) described as "wanksta", which fits him perfectly.
yeeh yeeh yeeh yeeh
What it is and what it be.
He asceeered me tonight.
Top Thug????
QUOTE (Jim in NYC @ March 26, 2008 - 11:35 PM)
Particularly when mixed with salsa.
Or Chili...Yup...
QUOTE (sizzler @ March 26, 2008 - 10:56 PM)
Dang Maludi...thats what I was wondering...thought I was lost in space...cyber space that is.
AND...not sorry to see Erik go...din't care for him...and didn't/don't care for the idiot who said they would have to call security to get him out. I would have made SURE too call security. Hope he goes next.
AND...not sorry to see Erik go...din't care for him...and didn't/don't care for the idiot who said they would have to call security to get him out. I would have made SURE too call security. Hope he goes next.
Andrew looked like he was ready to take out a piece on the judges!
I have to give it to him...he had gonads to say something like that, and big ones for that matter!
I was very shocked to find out that the other team had won, but even more shocked when I found out that his team had lost! I don't condone his behavior at all! You are right Siz, they needed security to jump in there! He looks like he would have been a good candidate to pass one of those pshyco's tests! Dang!
QUOTE (Jim in NYC @ March 27, 2008 - 12:46 AM)
And with tonight's episode, the new standings are:
6 POINTS
Richard
5 POINTS
Andrew
4 POINTS
Stephanie
3 POINTS
Antonia
Jennifer
Lisa
Manuel
Mark
0 POINTS
Zoi
-1 POINTS
Nikki
-3 POINTS
Dale
Valerie (eliminated)
Spike
-4 POINTS
Nimma (eliminated)
-5 POINTS
Ryan
-8 POINTS
Erik (eliminated)
How it works:
+4 points per elimination challenge won
+3 points per elimination challenge in the top group
+2 points per quickfire challenge won
+1 points per quickfire honorable mention
-1 points per quickfire "dishonorable mention"
-3 points per elimination challenge in the bottom group
-4 points when eliminated
Last week, I gave 3 points to each member of the two best teams, but I didn't do that for the winning team this week. Neither the Vultures nor the Penguins had a bad dish last week, but it was clear from the Judges' Table that they didn't like Nikki's mac/cheese at all, and Tom had his usual quibbles about Richard's paella (see Casey, coq au vin). Stephanie got 4 points for winning, and Antonia got 3 for the praise she received at judge's table.
Likewise, I didn't take away any points from some members of the losing team, because it didn't seem like they had any issues with Dale's skewers or Spike's taco salad. Zoi and Ryan lost 3 points each, and Erik, of course, lost 4 because of his elimination.
Basically, I think Ryan's in trouble. He's been in the bottom group twice out of three eliminations, with only one quickfire honorable mention to his credit.
6 POINTS
Richard
5 POINTS
Andrew
4 POINTS
Stephanie
3 POINTS
Antonia
Jennifer
Lisa
Manuel
Mark
0 POINTS
Zoi
-1 POINTS
Nikki
-3 POINTS
Dale
Valerie (eliminated)
Spike
-4 POINTS
Nimma (eliminated)
-5 POINTS
Ryan
-8 POINTS
Erik (eliminated)
How it works:
+4 points per elimination challenge won
+3 points per elimination challenge in the top group
+2 points per quickfire challenge won
+1 points per quickfire honorable mention
-1 points per quickfire "dishonorable mention"
-3 points per elimination challenge in the bottom group
-4 points when eliminated
Last week, I gave 3 points to each member of the two best teams, but I didn't do that for the winning team this week. Neither the Vultures nor the Penguins had a bad dish last week, but it was clear from the Judges' Table that they didn't like Nikki's mac/cheese at all, and Tom had his usual quibbles about Richard's paella (see Casey, coq au vin). Stephanie got 4 points for winning, and Antonia got 3 for the praise she received at judge's table.
Likewise, I didn't take away any points from some members of the losing team, because it didn't seem like they had any issues with Dale's skewers or Spike's taco salad. Zoi and Ryan lost 3 points each, and Erik, of course, lost 4 because of his elimination.
Basically, I think Ryan's in trouble. He's been in the bottom group twice out of three eliminations, with only one quickfire honorable mention to his credit.
I'm not good with numbers.
So who you think will make it so far then???
I say Richard and Mark so far just guessing and
one of the ladies...Can't think of her
name ..The tall pretty one.
Watchin' MMAS, I never really noticed how nicely um "packaged" Christian, is... ...course I do tend to find that true of many "small" guys(and I don't mean small where it counts)... ...OK there's two kinds of guys I can't stand-"size queens" and guys with little dicks... ...And I would love to see Ronnie's "ability to grow"... ...
...course I do tend to find that true of many "small" guys(and I don't mean small where it counts)... ...OK there's two kinds of guys I can't stand-"size queens" and guys with little dicks... ...And I would love to see Ronnie's "ability to grow"... ...
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