Helen, I'm sorry if I mistakenly came off that way in my post. I probably didn't previewit. What I *thought* I said was,

"At least you were nice about it INSTEAD of ripping into him"

b/c in the past many people have. I just thought the whole thing was funny. I mean obviously, I don't expect new people to know everything. It's just that it always gets me laughing a tad b/c it's right there on his profile, CAPS HANDI. I remember when I first got on this board and I thought, why does this person do this. I looked over to his profile, saw CAPS HANDI and thought, hmm, he must have a good reason, and that was it. But I wasn't trying to call you out on it, honestly. It was actually very nice the way you worded it in comparrison to how some people have in the past.

damn, I've only been back a couple of days and I'm already getting myself in trouble! I've found I dont' exactly talk like other people and re-reading my post I can see where you may have gotten the idea that I meant you ripped into him. I didn't. I just meant, wait, someone WILL and it won't be pretty. but I am going to try to be optimistic and hope no one will this season.

Helen... I do not believe in any way shape or form you are an ignorant person... maybe uninformed but not"ignorant".

Hi ya S'Bear...It depends...Loud does NOT = "trendy" to me...Being as I always go out alone...m lookin' more at the waiter, or the busboy(just kidding)...I don't care much about the "scene"...I care about the food...But being as I "suffer" from Peter Pan, syndrom I like watching young people...All the while knowing I don't qualify...

Uuh yes, thank you. I just took his post as a typo or dyslexia of the brain for that moment. Didn't realize that ppl here were actually going to to offense at what he had said.

Nor to to take offense at his typos... Okay... B&B assume the prone position.

oh that sounds hilarious! I'll have to check it out. I loved that show when I was little. I used to watch it with me mum. and eat cheesecake of course! Blanche was my favorite.

I've always taken painstaking time and elements to review all the previous posts, so I don't step on toes or regurgitate topics already wool-run and determined to be dead.

So, brillke, you don't do that? Hmmmm.

Your coming in and out makes me crazy, because you just say what you want and sceedaddle.

Stay a while, and you might find a reasonable semblance of a conversation with people who have brains . . . like you . . . and want to talk about the TC activities.

If you care you read.

IIIiii no NOTHINK...

The empty posts were about my deleting comments that I found out were erroneous.

So, what's with the stick and what's with you?

Oh thank you I haven't been called "young man" in years... ...

HAPPY BURFDAY TO LIA!!!

Pack your bags gurl.. because Just me & I are on our way over to you right now ( Courtesy of the TC AirBus)

All you really need is your skimpiest bikini... because we are taking you to the Figi Islands.



With none other than:

Don't forget the Vat of Duck Fat!

Oh sh!t, I mean pewp for you with such fragile eyes.... y'all got tipsy without me?

LMAO
LMAO!!! The vat of duck fat would be right next to the jacuzzi!!

Is the newest recipe from Sweeny Todd? You know .... human "confit'"(sp).....

Hey, psh072857, we haven't talked before. But I think you have a thought that could create a thread on that Ryan not spending too much time with anyone. Job-hopper, methinks? Why would that be?

So, Mr. Superannualted, what are you making of this season? And who do you think will get the next PYKAG. And who do you think will get to the end?

OK, daverocks, thanks for that enlightening explanation. I really appreciate it. But I'm getting that in this reference, it was meant to mean the other . . . am I too insightful or WHAT!!

Actually helen,I thought everyone who replied to you about JMEs cap-handi did it pretty nicely. I didnt see anyone rip you a new one or treat you as if you were a b!tch. I even said you had asked him to do it nicely. Your post confuses me. Who was rude? Some people are just now catching up and are answering you so maybe youre being sensitive over it but nobody is slamming you.

Who acted like there was an upper echelon of anything around here? Now thats a bit much,dont ya think?


Inner circle? Come on helen,lighten up or youre gonna start sh!tting diamonds soon.

As I told you when this all started,you said it nicely. Ive got no problem explaing JMEs cap-handi every season cause,like you said,not everyone knows why he does it. No biggie,just ask the way you did and we will explain. No harm,no foul. Theres always some a-hole who jumps JME every season and some have even said they only registered to tell him that. Yup,Im not as nice to them when they pull a douche move like that.

So,ease up sug. Not sure why you are so pissed.

It would be helpful if your avitar weren't as moving as it is. In fact, it could bring on a seizure to some. So, please tone it down, or stop the animation. You know, in this era, we all know animation is possible.

Yes, I have noticed . . . per my previous comment. But if you're just flying in and out, why bother? Your posts and others' are too far and between. You're not going to be in the meat of the conversation.

Nope,I seldom preview and doubt it will become a habit for me anytime soon.


I sometimes stay awhile and post as if this were a chatroom,kinda,but I like coming and going much better,most times. Ive got things to do and its just easier to pop in and out.

I love talking TC but weve gone so OT that there isnt a lot of TC being discussed right now. I love OT,dont get me wrong,but we got our OT thread we were begging for and things are going back to how they used to be. No trolls have complained so thats always a plus.


Talk TC,I will reply,I promise.

We haven't? Why not(I always enjoy your posts)... ...On the Ryan, thing...Me thinks...he expects t' get by on his looks...He has just enough skill to pose...Bayless, remembered him(Ryan) as cocky, and a bit of a "brown noser"...Was it Chef Daniel, who said that Ryan had spent a short time in his kitchen...I mean I know how to make "piccatta" for cry eye...You don't know the basics(fudementals) you're just a cook...I don't care how many restaurants you've been employed in...

Um,ok. I didnt repeat myself so not sure why you responded again.

Im missing out on what conversation? I read all the post so Im really not sure what you mean.


You ok hun? You seem pretty cranky and sensitive. PM me if youd like. If Ive said something to offend you and youre upset over that,say so. Id rather apologize for something I did that upset you without realizing it then let you get your feelings hurt and you not say so.

My thought is that Ryan, has a large supply of "Knee Pads"...

Well, thank you so much Mr. Fordmanrod, for that sphincter-penetrating compliment!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY LIA!!!!!!!!!

OK, I get it, now. Rose surely was involved in that convoluted conversation.

My dear brillke,
Actually, all is well. There were some previous posts that were . . . let's just call them unsavory and not quite on-subject. So beyond that, I'm comfortable. You got diamonds to offer, I got my hand out, baby!

LOL,good,glad all is well. I was worried I upset you by accident and wanted to be sure I hadnt.

I guess I read things differently cause I didnt see anything unsavory but thats just me. Its all good sug.

No diamonds here but I do have a brownie and I aint sharing!

There was a blatant example of an BAD uncalled foul in the five minutes that I was able to watch the women's semi-final tonight. And it happened at a very crucial point of the game. If you don't think that there are a fair amount of uncalled fouls in virtually every game, frankly, I think that you deserve to be a part of Tim Donaghy's office pool.

And when a *Republican* weighs in on Democratic politics trying to disprove a statement that is backed up by fact and not wishful thinking, it's rather desperate. You certainly didn't portray it as an "opinion" either, but I've got a solution to that (as you'll see).

BTW, I never said, implied, inferred, pretended, whispered, or bellowed that I didn't mentioned politics first.

Yes, I was wrong about Tom going to the producers (and I didn't spin it as I certainly could have). However, this doesn't make your unfounded statements of fact about collusion any more true, you know. But, from now on, I'll just file all of your charges about unproven situations on TC as "opinion" and roundfile them. How's that?

Well, brillke, I thought just last night we shared Jack. But . . . I'm with you on the OT. I just scroll through it. My comments, however meager, are always about TC, cheftestants and the appropriate melange.

But I'll tell ya, the OT thing is incredibly pervasive and virtually chokes off talk relevant to what this is supposed to be about.

the difficulty with your snapping in and out is . . . there may be some meager, yet terribly insightful comment that you'll miss. This will not be a life-threatening experience for you. Just a thought in terms of making what time you do spend here . . . worth your time.

You are welcome(I think???)....

Ford, I think I mentioned in another post that I'd seen an interwiew with Heston years ago in which he made statements that struck me as bigoted. Like I also said in that post, unfortunately I can't remember which show it was on, and since I can't substantiate what I heard with specifics, it makes the point pretty moot. The fact does remain that it was a feeling I came away with, though, and it's one that remained with me.

As far as the word "bigotry" goes, I don't necessarily attach any stigma of outright "evil" to it as you said you do. I suppose the definition below is the one that comes closest to defining my use of it:

Bigotry

Big"ot*ry\, n. [Cf. F. bigoterie.]

1. Obstinate and unreasoning attachment of one's own belief and opinions, with narrow-minded intolerance of beliefs opposed to them.

His work is, at the very least, thought provoking and inciting, whether for good or ill. I think that's kind of why he does it.

Mmmm, I luvz me a good prone, 'specially sizzlin' with some drawn buttah 'n mebbe a little chili sauce. Why, jumbo prones are--

--hey, what's with the corncob?

D'oh!!!

:::grabs teeny 'kini:::

OMFGWTF!!!! I heart you somethin' FIERCE, GRRL!!!!! Oceans of thankeez!!!!!

Mrs. Lovett's "Really Living It" Meat Pie:

2 Tbsp cooking oil
1 lg. onion, thinly sliced
1 lb. ground (cough) beef
1 lb. ground (ahem) pork
1 cup mashed potatoes
2 tsp. ground allspice
1 tsp. salt
1/4 tsp. pepper
Pastry for double crust pie (9 inch)
1 egg, beaten (optional)

In skillet, heat oil over medium heat. Saute onion until tender. Remove from heat and set aside. Brown beef and ... umm ... pork, that was it--together. Drain. Combine onion, meat, potatoes and seasonings. Line pie plate with pastry. Fill with meat mixture. Top with crust. Seal and flute edges. Make slits in top crust. Brush with beaten egg if desired. Bake at 375 for 30-35 minutes or until golden brown.

It's the allspice that makes this pie really special--and not in the bad way!

:::blinks:::

Helen, you ok, hon? Did your Hyde just hide your Jekyll, or did Jekyll jinx your Hyde?

VO: Irv, cleanup in aisle 7!

WOOOOOOOOOT!!!! Thanks so much, B! Now, that's a package I'll be happy to open! Please join the Fiji Party, and don't forget to bring your bestest swimmin' suit, 'cuz that sun'z a sizzlin!

IC....thanks for answering. I was getting caught up in my reading and doing some posting as I went; somtimes when you do that you come to find that the issue at hand has already been exhausted. As for this topic I probably would have been better off moving to the off topic board . I guess what is important here is that it is a good thing that while we may disagree on a subject we can still converse without getting nasty.

Not to mention the fact that he has become very wealthy doing it also.

I wholeheartedly concur, Ford. I, too, appreciate when we can discuss and debate here without getting nasty on a personal level. Contrary to the prevailing opinion, I actually can engage without getting gritty now and then.

I sure wish he'd share some of that creatively edited wealth with me!

OT stuff

Micheal Moore....Canadian Bacon!!

Chuck...the sci-fi 3 Omega Man, Soylent Green, Planet of the Apes

JME...he still da man!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please don't feel the need to censor yourself on my account. But maybe now you can imagine my reaction to Marcel putting foam on every dish.

Nice parents and neighbor lady---very bizzare form of disipline for a 5 or 6 year old. But I'll bet you don't go around showing your bum to peeps now!!!

Helen, I did think this episode was a bit better than the last 2, real dishes for real diners, cooked under mostly realistic circumstances. Four dishes that seemed very fine, one that was plated drably. Only one poor dish. (Couldn't have been good if 4 judges and 8 guests all put it down as the least favorite.)

But it's regrettable we'll be back to catering an event again this week. I dont recall quite so much catering as the main challenge, so concentrated early on in past seasons...

Helen, I'm not sure Lisa is PYKAG-ready. They've shown us very little of her, but I did see a few things that set her aside from Nikki, Zoi, and Ryan.

One, while Stephanie did "conceptualize" the Block Party dessert, it appeared to be Lisa who actually made it. And made it well.

Two, according to Stephanie, it was Lisa who knew about and whipped out that fabulously obscure Savory Vietnamese Caramel Sauce that they poured over their nearly winning beef dish of Strip Steak & Braised Short Rib w/ Potstickers. Rocco loved her Eggs Benedict and she beat Spike whose dish was also said to be good; no criticisms of her Zoo or Block Party dishes. She doesn't impress in the Quickfires but that may be because she's not as quick and skilled, fast & on the fly.

But she does seem to know some stuff and unlike those other 3, hasn't been on the chopping block even once yet.

MAN MISSED THE BOARDS THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS

SO THE BEST I COULD POSSIBLY DO IS

A QUICK REVIEW IN LO-FI

AND SUMMARIZE A TAD

NOW SEEMS I HAVE BEEN TARGETED BY TWO

FOR ME CAPS ...................

ONE HAS CHOSEN TO IGNORE

(I THINK BECAUSE I QUESTIONED HIS WORK ETHIC )

THE OTHER ....... SHRUG

GUESSIN SHE'S JUST USED TO HAVING STUFF HER OWN WAY

IN BOTH CASES I WILL FIRST THANK EVERYONE

WHO HAD ME BACK ON THE SUBJECT

AS THEY ALWAYS APPEAR WHEN I'M NOT AROUND

(WONDER WHY )

PROB CAUSE IF THEY SAID IT TO MY FACE

I WOULD SAY ......... ASK ME IF I CARE

THERE WAS ALSO DISCUSSION ABOUT MOSES

I LIKE MOSES AND WHAT HE STOOD FOR

FOR ONE THING I THINK 911 COULD HAVE BEEN

AVERTED IF EVERYONE ON THOSE PLANES COULD CARRY KNIVES

PULL A BOX CUTTER ON 40 OR SO PEEPS WITH BOWIES

WELL.........NUFF SAID

AND THE GUN THING ......WELL I LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS

IF YOU DISARM THE HONEST PEEPS .........

DISHONEST PEEPS WILL BE THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE EM

TELL YOU WHAT ............ IN THE REAL WORLD

IT DOESN'T EQUATE

ARMS ARE MADE ALL OVER THE WORLD

SO DISARMING THE PEEPS WILL CREATE

A DEPENDANCY ON THE GOVERNMENT FOR PROTECTION

HECK THEY CAN'T PROTECT OUR BORDERS

YOU WANNA DEPEND ON THAT?

NOT ME

NOW FOR THE NOT SO SERIOUS STUFF

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HAPPY BOITHDAY IC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALL THE BEST TO YA'S

AND TO MH

HOW ABOUT WE CONSPIRE TO PAINT NOTE OUT OF

THAT TREE

WAJ ..... DON'T THINK WE JUMPED THE SHARK YET

BUT IT'S GETTING PRETTY DANG CLOSE

THINGS BETTER SHAPE UP IN THE TC PRODUCTIONS

DEPARTMENT

OK I MAY HAVE MISSED SEVERAL POINTS OF DISCUSSION

BUT HEY

I WAS SKIMMIN

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

RIGHT NOW MISSIN

SEEMS I BE THE RUNNIN MAN

GOTS MH CHASIN ME WITH HER PAINTBALL GUN

NOTE IN WAIT READY TO DROP HIS WATER BOMBS

FROM THEM THAR TREES

HELEN TRYIN TO GRAB ME CAPS

SEEMS THE ONE THING REALLY WORTH

RUNNIN FOR

IS IC IN HER BIKINI IN THE DISTANCE

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN

I was disappointed by the reaction to Richard's win. I know it's a competition and that the rest of the cheftestants didn't think the flavors of the dish worked, but when he won they should have been more gracious.

The other thing I get tired of is hearing them say "it's not my style, or that's not how I cook". If you are going to compete on this show you had better be ready to cook outside of your comfort zone. I do understand the frustration over a vending machine challenge or the shopping in only one aisle challenge. I think those are kind of fluff/entertainment challenges but they are part of the game. If you come into the competition like Betty did "I do comfort food", then you don't stand a chance.