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CatchyUsername
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What I would like to see is for Brian to open his own gym and maybe snag a few of the trainers away from Jackie and maybe get his own Bravo show. Brian is one hundred percent more professional that Jackie is. He also is, IMO the best trainer in that gym. At least he's the one I would want to work out with. I think alot of the trainers at that gym are too good to have to put up with a bully boss like that.


Couldn't agree more!!! wink.gif smile.gif
bcsurvivor
I didn't go through and read this whole thread but I am a breast cancer sruvivor. I had both my breasts removed and now have FAKE IMPLANTS. It is so difficult to regain any sort of self confidence or self esteem after such a crushing thing as losing your breasts as a woman.

I am young, I work out, I've even considered contacting Jackie to see if her, or her trainers had any experience training us survivor girls. It's so difficult to even do a single pushup after implants are placed UNDER the muscle. The client last night looked incredible, and whether she had implants due to personal choice, or medical reasons, it is completely unprofessional to talk about a client in the gym. PERIOD.

WTF happened to Jackie? Big ego. I personally have watched my last episode.
DarkVamp
In my haste to express my disgust with Jackie and Lisa I forgot to mention how classy Brian appeared with regards to his client. Yeah, the dude's loud and obnoxious but when it comes to more important aspects of life (his client being a cancer survivor and the death of his friend Doug) he has a huge heart!
bflye7
ok I am reading all the post's about how Jacky ahs turned into this lip sucking, big headed, self absorbed douche. And I think to myself whatever I still like her she is smart, put together and a force to be reckoned with. Having said that I have to say that after watching last night's episode I no longer share that opinion.

Brian came to her to try and talk to her on a subject that should have been important to her but she chose to fire him. Why fire him? Why disrespect him... why cuss at him???? who is the proffesional now?? Yelling accross the gym and acting as if he was going to do something to you or anyone else..grow up!!!

"Jacky you were wrong. It had nothing to do with your relationship with Brian and everything to do with the lack proffesionalism in your gym. And if YOU the head [expletive deleted] as you like to call yourself can't practice what you preach then don't hold the rest of your staff to the same standard. Not only was that cancer patient Brian's client but she was yours too and you just apologizing to her boyfriend was not enough. You may have not made the remarks but YOU laughed and promoted the comments while they were being said. Brian was just trying to addess the situation and for you to cuss at him like you did. Well the person with a problem is not Brian it's you!!!!!

Up to this point I thought you were so great, but now I have to agree with all the other post.. GET A ROOOM.. and take yourself of that pedastal that you think you belong on because the only one worshiping Jackie is Jackie!!!!
phantomraven
PETITION CALLING FOR WORKOUT CANCELLATION

I've started an online petition for those willing to back up their opinions/comments here with a strong message to Bravo. We'll see if this post gets deleted

Spread the word!

PETITION LOCATION: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/643731154

UPDATE: 101 and counting - Keep them coming! Jackie may be the dictator of her gym, but it is the VIEWERS who have the ultimate say in her show's success or lack thereof!
Lorizh
QUOTE (mahalo1 @ May 7, 2008 - 09:31 AM) *
I may be wrong, but I get the impression that jackie has a lot of say in how the show is presented. Most of the shows revolve around how all women are in love with her, and she really isn't very attractive and is very mean-spirited and pretty much a total bully. THerefore, I doubt that many lesbians would be attracted to her, much less that she "converts" straight women. THey conveniently didn't show the assistant's crude remark and the boyfriend's confrontation, although possibly he wouldn't sign a release. My point is that the show is designed to show her in a good light, and she doesn't realize how ignorant she appears. If jackie had any class, which she doesn't, she would have discussed the incident with peeler and apologized. I actually respect him for showing an interest in his client. It's completely inappropriate for professional trainers or their assistants to make insulting remarks about someone's appearance. Other than to get exposure on tv, I don't know why any of these trainers would continue to work for jackie. She is a rude, abusive unprofessional bully. She is so self involved that she is more interested in the show depicting her as irresistable to all women, than being a decent person.


They didn't show it because JACKIE said something and Lisa (the weasle) admits to that in her blog! She's obviously been fired from Bravo and is the scapegoat here so Jackie can keep her show, her fame and her attitude! Shame on BRAVO! PLEASE EVERYONE SIGN THE PETITION!!! GET JACKIE FIRED! Peeler needs his own show, I would work out with that guy in a second. The moment I saw him burst into tears when Doug died my heart sank. The others had crocodile tears and just a bit of sympathy, Brian was devastated, it still breaks my heart and for Jackie to shut him out like that is shameful, then make derogatory comments about a client of a gym she owns (not 1 client but 2 in the same episode!) shows she does NOT deserve what she has. Bravo is protecting her and Lisa is taking the fall (I can't stand Lisa anyway, haven't liked tattletales since I was in grade school, but at least she offered up an apology, Jackie the snot has not). SIGN THE PETITION TO GET JACKIE FIRED!!!
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Lorizh
Look what I found...

http://www.brianpeeler.com/

It says Brian Peeler TV coming soon...oh oh oh.......hope that means REAL tv!

I emailed him, but don't know if it will get to him, probably an assistant or someone but I asked them to pass along the message that he's getting overwhelming support here wub.gif

And here is his myspace:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...friendid=576507
justtorant
I was thrilled to read that most posters agree that Jackie has just gone too far and let the fame go to her head. Once a fan of the show, now I'll never watch another episode. I remember really looking forward to watching the episodes from the first two seasons - this season is not only booooorrrrring, it's disgusting to me to watch Jackie Warner's behavoir! What people liked about her and the show was the she seemed to be down-to-earth, interesting, hard-working and treated her co-workers like family. To watch her making out at a dinner party, disrespect her trainers, and march around like the Queen is not my idea of a relaxing way to spend my Tuesday evening. The part that made me even sicker was the way her trainers talked about what happened with Peeler directly after he was fired. Rebecca reminded me of a high school girl as she excitedly told the other trainers her twisted version of how Peeler had yelled at Jackie that they were going to talk about it NOW - camaras showed the true story - Jackie being a beotch. They all seemed to side with Jackie because they know who butters their bread and they want to squeeze as much fame from this dying show as they can. If anything it reminded me not to listen to gossip - If we would have just heard Rebecca's version of what happened (although she wasn't even there) we would gotten the story wrong. I know there's a lot of editing involved in this show - but the camara's showed Peeler trying to talk to his boss in a professional manner until she threatend to fire him for daring to question her. Enuf of my rant! I'll never watch the show again.
popey26
QUOTE (Lorizh @ May 7, 2008 - 10:20 AM) *
LISA'S APOLOGY WAS CRAP. Why on earth would one have to APOLOGIZE for asking if someone had breast implants because they were "perky" ??? Because THAT IS NOT WHAT SHE SAID and a whole lot of laughing and mocking was going on, enough for the boyfriend to rightfully come in and stick up for his woman (thank you mystery guy!) and Jackie and her SMUG look and smart mouth just put down Peeler and stuck up for Lisa, know why?? BECAUSE SHE WAS WRONG!

CANCEL THE SHOW BRAVO!
Happier
I am so glad to see that so many people are sharing the same opinion about this episode.

I really think that much of the outrage is coming from people who were REALLY fans of Jackie's. I could be wrong, but I think it's worse for people who have cheered Jackie on from the beginning because, frankly, we've always defended her for being here. But she's changed in ways that don't come across as beneficial - at least not on the screen. I'm so disapointed, disgusted and sad about her behavior this season.

And although Lisa did apologize for the comments and, (as another poster stated) I doubt that she and Jackie would've made comments had they known she was a breast cancer survivor - IT DOESN'T MATTER.

Why? Because the WAY Jamie was getting trashed was just downright hurtful and nasty. It wasn't just "oh. . nice [expletive deleted]." It bordered on ridiculing her. Jamie Eason isn't a "client" of Peeler's - she's a freaking powerhouse in her own right in this industry. Lisa should be FIRED for not knowing who Jamie is in the first place. (That would be the equivalent of someone claiming to be a baseball fan not knowing who Kirby Puckett was. Basketball fan not knowing Charles Barkley.)

And if Jackie said anything (and it was edited out), she should be ashamed of herself. If someone *chooses* to have implants (as many fitness competitors with LOW body fat do - breast cancer issues aside), that is their choice and people should respect that. Sound familiar, Jackie????

I can't believe I'm so pissed off about a stupid t.v. show, but I am. Maybe it's because I've been a Jamie Eason fan for a very long time, but Lisa's comments about Jamie really hurt my feelings for some reason. Maybe it's MY implants. Sorry your "aging breasts" (Her words. Not mine.) make you lash out at other people's beauty, Lisa. . .you. . .you. . .sad sack of jealous crap.

Holy cow!!! THEY MADE ME SO MAD, I CALLED SOMEONE A NAME!!! (If any of you guys knew me at all, you'd be just as shocked as I am now. I'm leaving it up there, though. . .if nothing else but to remind myself that sometimes, even Pollyanna gets a pottymouth. Ha ha ha.)

>:P
Lorizh
QUOTE (Happier @ May 7, 2008 - 12:25 PM) *
Why? Because the WAY Jamie was getting trashed was just downright hurtful and nasty. It wasn't just "oh. . nice [expletive deleted]." It bordered on ridiculing her. Jamie Eason isn't a "client" of Peeler's - she's a freaking powerhouse in her own right in this industry. Lisa should be FIRED for not knowing who Jamie is in the first place. (That would be the equivalent of someone claiming to be a baseball fan not knowing who Kirby Puckett was. Basketball fan not knowing Charles Barkley.)

And if Jackie said anything (and it was edited out), she should be ashamed of herself. If someone *chooses* to have implants (as many fitness competitors with LOW body fat do - breast cancer issues aside), that is their choice and people should respect that. Sound familiar, Jackie????


JACKIE didn't eveb know who she was! Therefore SHE should be fired too, that and her high and mighty attitude angry.gif Oh and Jackie DID say something because Lisa blogged about it, and apparently she has suffered the consequences (most likely been fired) for stating it.
lorik8
i thought the comments made by the manager about the woman's breast implants were disgusting. she is the one who should have been fired. Jackie is completely one sided. we go to gyms to develop ourselves, not to be made fun of. what's next? fat jokes?
KatB
From what I can tell Jackie did say something,that was why He was so mad. I think she did not want to talk about it on camera because she would look like the crap bagg she is. I will never watch the show agian.
ctmum
I was shocked last night a Jackie and Lisa's behavior. Like many over weight people my biggest fear is going into a gym to work out, convinced that the "hot" trainers are looking at me and making fun of me. In most cases that is completely false and they are professional and would never dream of mocking a client. Well it appears that isn't the case at Jackie's gym, the picture Lisa and Jackie looking over at Brian and his beautiful client and knowing that were making fun of her appearance is straight out of "Mean Girls". I only wish Bravo TV had the guts to air the footage of what was said because in Lisa's blog today it was clear Jackie was also making comments.
It appears this show is nothing more than an infomercial for Jackie Warner products. If the boyfriend, (good for you for jumping in and sticking up for your girl) didn't sign a photo release, that still wouldn't have prevented Bravo from showing the footage of what was said before he stepped into the room, but Jackie must have final say because she was happy to let us all think Lisa was the only one making comments.

If I lived in the LA area and could I would organize a protest from breast cancer surviors and their families outside of skysport.
I would love to see this show cancelled to not have to see Jackie on her soapbox, but this will just increase ratings for next week. She is cold, calculating and has an ego that make Johnathan Antin seem like a saint.

I love seeing the other trainers and their stories, but I have to say Brain has always been the one who wears his heart on his sleave and is the most entertaining because he is so human. I would love to see him with his own show and hope this unfortunate event is just the cataylst for a network to jump getting him on the air. That good ol' boy full of faults who has a heart of gold would be a show I would enjoy.

If it were Brian was making fun of one of Jackie's clients and she caught wind of it she would be on her soapbox talking about professionalism and such, expressing outrage at that behavior. Yes it's her gym as Jessie pointed out but sometimes you have to stand up for wrong behavior. I promise you folks in tvland today have much more respect for Brian than they do for Jessie.
lorik8
i will never watch this show ever again! the other trainers are a bunch of suck ups. that the only way to get in good. i am proud of peeler for always standing his ground. he is a great friend and a compassionate human being. Lisa should have been fired for her comments. she was acting out of jealousy. people who work out at that gym should beware that the staff is talking about them behind their backs.
jackie had it out for peeler from the beginning. what kind of manager doesn't want to here what is on the mind of an employee. i bet if it was anyone else she would have listened. kind of ironic how all of the girls develop a crush on her...i bet it'e the only way to stay employed.
Pandorbox
Like everyone else, I was completely disgusted by last night's show. The first problem I have is with Bravo. Shame on you, you should air this conversation, apologies included, in its entirety. Jackie, you were wrong not to listen to Peeler. A good leader will always listen. You listened to Greg when his trainer was complaining about how he was always late and didn't inspire her. Why not Peeler? Fire the assistant and hire Peeler back. This is your only shot at redemption.
Also, Jackie - please update your blog. It's not like your leaving your house today or anything.
Ali_G
First time poster, big fan of the show and glad to be posting here.

I have to say that for some reason I thought I would wake up and see everyone who posts here defending Jackie and bashing Peeler. I don't know why, but I thought I would see that. I am happy to see how wrong I was.

For those of you who have not read Lisa's blog, let's be absolutely clear about one thing: Jackie DID make inappropriate comments with Lisa about Peeler's client and her "boob job".

Peeler did the right thing in going up to Jackie privately, in her office and trying to have a discussion with her about what happened. At the very least, Jackie could have said that some things were said that were wrong, owned up to it and apologized for insulting Peeler's friend and client.

She was the one who escalated the situation by being terse with Peeler and not hearing him out in a situation where SHE was wrong.

Certainly, none of us know Jackie. But, from what was shown last night, she did not in any way, shape or form, accept any responsibility for the situation with Peeler's client. Not only that, but she apparently lied about her role in the situation. The only thing that can be drawn from how she handled the situation with the comments about Peeler's client, is hubris. Tremendous hubris and ego.

I don't know if Jackie reads these boards, I doubt it, but in the off chance she does, here is my message to her: Jackie, you seem to pride yourself on being a strong woman, a strong person. A strong person doesn't need to lie to cover up when they were wrong and can own up to being wrong.

Ali
cheflady
having lost my mother to breast cancer and being a surviour myself I swear to god if I could have reached thru the tv I would be in jail right now. How disgusting. Jackie is a self serving beachhhhhhhhhh. The reason she hates Peeler so much is the man has something she doesnt. Kindness, warmth, sensitive, uhhh a heart. The heartless [expletive deleted] wishes she could be HIM. It's funny how in life we dont get along with those who we wish we could be. I loved the show when it started. Not anymore. I will never watch again. To bad Bravo feels the need to turn themselves into a trash station. Here Jackie had a great platform to have a voice. We hear her loud and clear now. I am sure she has read some of these posts or her crazy ass manager has. I hope she feels like sheeet. She deserves everything thrown at her. It will be interesting to see if she posts anything on her blog. Likely some sorry ass excuse. Just as she is.

j
Vanessa GD
I normally enjoy all the drama that Jackie creates on the show, but last night she went overboard!! All Brian wanted to do was discuss what happened and Jackie just blew him off. Why? I mean in the same amount of time it took her to get all pissed off she could have listened to his concerns and filled him in on what she did to "handle" the situation. THATS IT!!
For Lisa to be able to make a comment like she did last night in the presence of her BOSS.....and not be terminated makes me wonder how many other times rude/condescending/hurtful remarks have been made? And about who? Jackie's SKY LAB clients.....probably. People go to work out in Jackie's gym.....to work out. They do not go there to be ridiculed behind their backs by Jackie and/or her staff.
Jackie despreatly needs to get off her high horse and apologize to Brian, his client and her husband. She also needs to get rid of her secretary....I mean assistant, Lisa. Lisa is nothing but trouble. She has a way of manipuliating things to cause drama. And there is absolutely no room for drama in the work place!!!!

I did however enjoy Erika and Greg's flirtatious photo shoot! I can't wait to see what happens next between the 2 of them
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popey26
I agree completely.Lisa is a liar and a instigator.She seems to have the mind of a spoiled teenage brat.Maybe she should audition for gossip girl or bad girls. what the hell are her office duties anyway? Spy on the trainers,move stuff around to look busy.Spy on the clients,daydream about having her own reality show?
Truth_B_Told
Check out Lisa's Blog Entry...

Lisa's Blog about the Implant Comments

or read it here...


Open Your Eyes and Shut Your Mouth

Unless you’re some kind of saint, you’ve probably at one time or another said or done something unkind. Maybe out of fear, envy, greed or pettiness, you’ve dumped on somebody you shouldn't have. Well, folks -- I did just that. I made the following comments about Jamie Eason: (1) I questioned if she had breast implants because they were very perky and perfect. I remember looking down at my aging boobs and thought about considering implants, and (2) I questioned who she was in general because she was doing some hard-core workout with Brian. That is all I said … PERIOD! I totally owned up to it and personally apologized to Jamie, her boyfriend, and Peeler. I apologized for the exact words I used immediately after her boyfriend walked out of the office. Her boyfriend was totally cool and understood, but wanted an apology from Jackie and not on behalf of her, as he overheard her making comments as well. I believe Jamie and Peeler wanted the same, which is why he confronted Jackie in her office. My “confessional” was emotional and overwhelming because I felt so bad for what I said even after I made amends. At that time I also learned that my sister who is suffering from systemic Lupus and attempted suicide, and my hair was coming out in clumps due to stress.

I have suffered the repercussions of my actions and if the blame wants to be placed on me, then so be it. The best thing about the situation is that I got ”love” back from Jamie and Peeler. As manager of the gym and medical facility, I make mistakes -- BIG OL' BURLY ones! The best thing about a mistake is the ability to OWN up to it and learn from it. If you don’t, then that says something about your lack of character. Since the event, I have spoken to many high profile business people in Beverly Hills and have taken their advice on how to handle the situation. I learned that it isn’t uncommon for things like this to happen, but it is rare that people take full responsibility for it and not blame others.

Yes, it was immature. Yes, yes, yes. Guilty as charged! So I’m totally prepared for the butt-whipping, nasty words and hate mail. Bring it on, as I deserve it.


Kudos for her owning up to her part in this. Yes it was crude what she said, but looks like Jackie Warner (Wardell - real last name) played a part in it as well. Tsk Tsk on you Jackie. Own up to your pettiness!
mahalo1
Don't you think that jackie and lisa making fun of a client is similar to a psychologist, laughing with her secretary that a client is "crazy". Yes, jackie is too much of a coward to air the comment that was made. She is a weasel that tries to pass it off as only being lisa. Imagine what is said behind the backs of the clients who are overweight instead of being compassionate and trying to assist people. I think that this show is done. If people see what kind of person jackie is, they would not train with her. I think that jackie must have a lot of authority to edit what is in the show, because her rude comments were not aired. The show is edited to show her as irresistable and "tough", when it is obvious that the women trainers are obligated to fall all over her and say how attractive she is, and her toughness is obnoxious rudeness. People of high integrity realize when they are at fault. Someone posted this, which I agree with, she should have proactively sought out peeler, advised him of what happened and apologized. Hopefully, peeler will get a bravo show. WHile I usually don't want shows boycotted or removed from the air just because I don't like them, I do think there is no value to this show. Bravo should have more integrity than to put such a loathsome person on its air. Not only is she disgusting, she's not even interesting.
Truth_B_Told
Oh and by the way - Jackie is tyring to do massive damage control over on myspace.com.

Last nights episode-to clear up a couple of things. I did not make a derogatory remark about Brian Peelers client on camera or off-camera. The only reason he tried to bring it up to me on camera is to villainise me and set me up for something I didn't do. Lisa did not know this woman had cancer and made a comment about her breasts which she apologized for. I have dealt with cancer personally as well as watched my mother struggle with it so I am very sensitive about this disease. I have been employed in the past and in a million years would not have behaved the way Brian behaved with me. I can't imagine raising my voice or refusing to leave my boss' office when asked politely to do so. I feel totally justified in firing him. I have always personally disliked him but was forced to continue to employ him because he was chosen by the producers for the show. Please remember that this is a show and that 90% of the beautiful and inspiring work we did was left on the cutting room floor. The producers decided (regretably) to create through editing a very different and what I think a very negative show. This season is not in any way a reflection of what I or SkySport represents. I have spent a great part of my life trying to heal and am just as floored as you, the viewers, by the negative editing.


On a lighter note, I thought Erica looked beautiful during her shoot and it was a great self-esteem builder. Gregg B and Deenie are just not fitting! SkyLab is challenging and getting off to a rocky start but some powerful changes are yet to come.

Thank you-Jackie Warner
Truth_B_Told
(deleted the dupe post)
Ali_G
QUOTE (Truth_B_Told @ May 7, 2008 - 12:04 PM) *
Check out Lisa's Blog Entry...

Lisa's Blog about the Implant Comments

or read it here...


Open Your Eyes and Shut Your Mouth

Unless you're some kind of saint, you've probably at one time or another said or done something unkind. Maybe out of fear, envy, greed or pettiness, you've dumped on somebody you shouldn't have. Well, folks -- I did just that. I made the following comments about Jamie Eason: (1) I questioned if she had breast implants because they were very perky and perfect. I remember looking down at my aging boobs and thought about considering implants, and (2) I questioned who she was in general because she was doing some hard-core workout with Brian. That is all I said … PERIOD! I totally owned up to it and personally apologized to Jamie, her boyfriend, and Peeler. I apologized for the exact words I used immediately after her boyfriend walked out of the office. Her boyfriend was totally cool and understood, but wanted an apology from Jackie and not on behalf of her, as he overheard her making comments as well. I believe Jamie and Peeler wanted the same, which is why he confronted Jackie in her office. My "confessional" was emotional and overwhelming because I felt so bad for what I said even after I made amends. At that time I also learned that my sister who is suffering from systemic Lupus and attempted suicide, and my hair was coming out in clumps due to stress.

I have suffered the repercussions of my actions and if the blame wants to be placed on me, then so be it. The best thing about the situation is that I got "love" back from Jamie and Peeler. As manager of the gym and medical facility, I make mistakes -- BIG OL' BURLY ones! The best thing about a mistake is the ability to OWN up to it and learn from it. If you don't, then that says something about your lack of character. Since the event, I have spoken to many high profile business people in Beverly Hills and have taken their advice on how to handle the situation. I learned that it isn't uncommon for things like this to happen, but it is rare that people take full responsibility for it and not blame others.

Yes, it was immature. Yes, yes, yes. Guilty as charged! So I'm totally prepared for the butt-whipping, nasty words and hate mail. Bring it on, as I deserve it.


Kudos for her owning up to her part in this. Yes it was crude what she said, but looks like Jackie Warner (Wardell - real last name) played a part in it as well. Tsk Tsk on you Jackie. Own up to your pettiness!


The saddest part of all is that Jackie is lying about her role in that incident and making Peeler about to be a bad guy for sticking up for a friend and client.

Classless. Completely classless.

Ali
mdhalljr
Wow, so I am not the only one upset over last nights episode! Wow... good reality viewing at it's best. Just what the execs at Bravo wanted!

The firing of Peeler was dramatic enough, but I have such issues with the office manager. I feel like she is placed there as a plot device. We kind of have to step back and wonder how much of this is real, how much is edited, and how much is put in there for story effect. Well, it's a good story!

I had the biggest issue with how the trainee Deena is being brushed off by her trainer. One of the trainees gets slapped on the wrist for being late for her session, but the actual trainer doesn't? If I was Deena I would have walked right out of there and demanded my money back. I'm sure gyms like that in Hollywood are a dime a dozen. Jackie probably doesn't care to even watch her show after they are broadcast, but I'd be surprised. I hope she feels like a horses ass over seeing actual footage of her late trainer, and the way he was so dismissive over his clients feelings. It looks like Bravo is really trying to spin the whole Deena thing into it's own storyline too.

Keep your head up Deena! Find another gym that will support you!
Ali_G
QUOTE (Truth_B_Told @ May 7, 2008 - 12:08 PM) *
Oh and by the way - Jackie is tyring to do massive damage control over on myspace.com.

Last nights episode-to clear up a couple of things. I did not make a derogatory remark about Brian Peelers client on camera or off-camera. The only reason he tried to bring it up to me on camera is to villainise me and set me up for something I didn't do. Lisa did not know this woman had cancer and made a comment about her breasts which she apologized for. I have dealt with cancer personally as well as watched my mother struggle with it so I am very sensitive about this disease. I have been employed in the past and in a million years would not have behaved the way Brian behaved with me. I can't imagine raising my voice or refusing to leave my boss' office when asked politely to do so. I feel totally justified in firing him. I have always personally disliked him but was forced to continue to employ him because he was chosen by the producers for the show. Please remember that this is a show and that 90% of the beautiful and inspiring work we did was left on the cutting room floor. The producers decided (regretably) to create through editing a very different and what I think a very negative show. This season is not in any way a reflection of what I or SkySport represents. I have spent a great part of my life trying to heal and am just as floored as you, the viewers, by the negative editing.


On a lighter note, I thought Erica looked beautiful during her shoot and it was a great self-esteem builder. Gregg B and Deenie are just not fitting! SkyLab is challenging and getting off to a rocky start but some powerful changes are yet to come.

Thank you-Jackie Warner


That is such crap. He brought it up on camera to villianize you? The cameras are everywhere. You are filming a reality TV show!! He brought it up to get you to own up to your role in the incident and apologize. Yet, you (Jackie) still will not admit any wrongdoing!!

Ali
Truth_B_Told
QUOTE (MoyerBoo @ May 7, 2008 - 12:10 PM) *
Wow, so I am not the only one upset over last nights episode! Wow... good reality viewing at it's best. Just what the execs at Bravo wanted!

The firing of Peeler was dramatic enough, but I have such issues with the office manager. I feel like she is placed there as a plot device. We kind of have to step back and wonder how much of this is real, how much is edited, and how much is put in there for story effect. Well, it's a good story!


Yeah I tend to agree about the producers putting their own "spin" on things. You just do not know who to trust. One would HOPE that someone isn't as bad as they are depicted on TV, but it is a ratings game, and unless the uncut version is brought out, we will never know the real truth.

I think Jackie herself may be done with Bravo after all of this. Whether right or wrong in this situation on television, it is by far BAD FOR BUSINESS.
jeff1019
I remember last year when Paula Abdul had her own reality show. I watched about four episodes and decided that she was simply a self absorbed twit. This Workout Season, replace the "I" for an "A" and you have Jackie Warner.

Seriously, when confronted by an employee who is justifiably upset that you spoke smack about the reconstructed breasts of a client who had breast cancer, the common human and decent response is, "I am so very sorry." Instead, Jackie used it as a means to fire Brian. Tacky Jackie - you should be ashamed.

I have been a fan of the show for all 3 Seasons and I thought that Jackie was making progress after she left that Brazilian Bimbo (what's her name?) and that Jackie's mother issues were getting better via therapy. But after watching the first few shows of this season, I realize that Jackie still has no respect for herself nor for others.

I wanted to believe that Jackie was on the road to becoming a person that I thought the LGBT community could be proud of, but, alas, she is acting like a man-hating separatist. The whole idea of a lesbian cruise just for the women of Skylab is clear indication that she relegates her men to second class. Why couldn't a few of the men join on the cruise anyway?

And for record, based on his treatment of Doug and his remarks regarding Brian's termination, Jessie is a wimpy kiss ass. Get a spine Jessie. Will you do anything just to stay on the air? Like Doug, find some decency inside of yourself and become a man already.
Truth_B_Told
Just wanted to maybe offer a reason for what you said about the cruise.

Olivia cruises are specifically for women only. SOME lesbians in the community are not 100% comfortable with guys around. The cruise is set up for women to be around their sisters.

Maybe it was Olivia cruises that made that stipulation, thus deterring Jackie from bringing the boys with her.



QUOTE (jeff1019 @ May 7, 2008 - 12:32 PM) *
I wanted to believe that Jackie was on the road to becoming a person that I thought the LGBT community could be proud of, but, alas, she is acting like a man-hating separatist. The whole idea of a lesbian cruise just for the women of Skylab is clear indication that she relegates her men to second class. Why couldn't a few of the men join on the cruise anyway?
Noel Rae
QUOTE (FA Harper @ May 7, 2008 - 10:33 AM) *
Has some one seen some deleted clips of last night's show? From what I saw last night they said things that a lot of people say about people w/ fake breast. Unfortunatly in this regard it was about a woman that has survived breast cancer. I seriously don't think if they knew Jamie had survived BC they would have said such things.
Please read what I said before you flame me. We (people in general) have put our foots (or should it be feets) in our mouths. This time it is more serious b/c of the disease. I am not saying it is right, not in the least, but the things said, seemed to nothing more than stuff men, and yes, women say about fake breast.

I do agree that it is not professional for her to talk about clients that way. As a trainer my self I hear it all the time. I think she should have listen to Peeler. Peeler was/is emotional and in this case rightfully so. Both Peeler and Jackie were letting past issues fuel the fire for their "fight". This "breast incident" was the spark that blew up the Hindenburg. I think they are too far gone to mend fences. After this show Peeler should have no trouble finding a gym, it he hasn't already.

If you do have the edited out scenes please get them to me.
the1moose73@yahoo.com
This is my opinion based on what I saw last night.
One more thing, I really don't think BRAVO is going to cancle the show just b/c Jackie is acting rather jerkish. Conflict and controversy get you ratings. If people stop watching then they will can it. People watch shows like this for two reasons. They love it or they hate it. But through it all people watch.


I do agree with you that we all say stupid sh** now & then, especially us women. However Jackie should have had a lot more class after she was over heard & apoligized. She didn't & I think that is what pissed people off the most. She got cought & then blew it off! I screw up almost everyday, but I try & make it right, she just seemed mad that someone would question her.
Loyal Bravo Viewer
Re: Olivia Cruises

Did anyone notice how Jackie dissed the cruise? "Too many bad dinners... she was cramped in small space with her trainers."
Hello, DID YOU SEE HER STATE ROOM? As I am pretty sure that this cruise was entirely free for Jackie and her trainers it's just another amazing example of her ingratitude and classlessness.
Ali_G
By the way, her damage control post is now on her Bravo blog.

She asked Peeler to leave politely? Did I miss something? She threatened to fire him if he didn't drop the subject. How is that polite?

Ali
WONDER WOMAN
LISA and Jackie were talking about the womans (client) boobs.....They did not know that she was a cancer surviver..Hell, maybe lisa liked them and wished that her boobs were that perky....WE do not know, becuse the editing this season is terrible.....like the American media, sound bites, taken out of context. I do not believe, for one single second, that jackie and lisa new the woman had cancer, and decided to make fun of the clients boobs........Come on people...bravo has done nothing but edit this show this season as a tabloid spectacle...makes me sad. season one and 2 were pretty good
As far as Peeler goes,I for one am glad that is over..should have happened 2 seasons ago....peeler always struck me as really desparate to be on tv. He thought it was the Brian Peeler show....it was not.....Get your own dam show brian..get your own gym, and do what you want......in this gym you were an employee. a subordinate. it is not good or bad, it is just what is so.
Leadfoot
QUOTE (Truth_B_Told @ May 7, 2008 - 12:04 PM) *
Check out Lisa's Blog Entry...

Lisa's Blog about the Implant Comments

or read it here...

Kudos for her owning up to her part in this. Yes it was crude what she said, but looks like Jackie Warner (Wardell - real last name) played a part in it as well. Tsk Tsk on you Jackie. Own up to your pettiness!


Although I'm not a big fan of the girl (based on what I've seen of her) I too will give her kudos for owning up and apologizing for her actions.
Noel Rae
I'm sure editing does play a part, but Jackie has done to much to just write it off to that. Editing didn't make her hang on other women & kiss them on the cruise while her girlfriend was left home. Editing didn't make her blow off an apology. Editing didn't make her not stand up for a client whose trainer showed up late, although she could tell a client not to be late. Editing didn't force her to make out in front of an entie dinner party where not only her co-workers were all gathered, but at least one ex-girlfriend as well. It just goes on & on. She's loosing it editing or no editing!
KariAna
Just so people know, when someone first begins therapy, especially

with the kind of relationship issues and other factors Jackie has the

therapist first gains trust and bonds with the client by finding the

angle of all situations where the client can be in the right. I am sure

that if she went to her therapist and asked about last night's incident

the Therapist would not do that because their is no angle that justifies

last night's termination of Peeler. The Rebecca angle is that by helping

Jackie recognize Rebecca's need for attention, in time she can show

Jackie that she is the same only not as aware of herself as Rebecca.

Many people stop therapy at about the time the therapist begins holding

the mirror up for the client, metaphorically of course, to help them see

their own faults. One year can be way to soon for this part of the

process when such a huge ego is involved. I doubt all the bonding in

the world will get Jackie passed the mirror part of therapy since she

has to always be right.

For the record, I am appalled by Jackie's behavior and am not sure I

will watch anymore. The only reason I might watch is if it appears

Jackie gets what she deserves for what she has done to Rebecca and

Peeler as well as Erica and the other trainers. As far as I am concerned

Rebecca is a lot healthier than Jackie. Her behavior last night gossiping

and changing what Peeler said for the other trainers is because she is

so clearly still very much in love with Jackie. For Jackie to believe she

didn't seduce Rebecca and then dump her is yet another one of

Jackie's changing history. Rebecca had been interested in Jackie

before she broke up with Mimi but the minute they were broken up

Jackie went out of her way to seduce Rebecca. Of course Rebecca

is an adult. I was glad last week when she told Renessa<sp> that

she missed the men only of course she used a different word. <blush>

I'd prefer if this show got good again but my eyes have been opened

by Jackie's horrible behavior and Narcissistic behavior.

Kari Ana


QUOTE (Leadfoot @ May 7, 2008 - 09:05 AM) *
It just amazes me how someone who treats everyone like CRAP can have such a successful business.

I suspected that Peeler would be fired, and my suspicions came true last night. I know Jackie and Peeler don't get along, but who hasn't had a boss they don't get along with? That's life. You don't go and fire someone because you don't like them. From what I can tell, Peeler is an excellent trainer. All of his clients just rave about him. That's the important thing, not the fact that Peeler doesn't kiss Jackie's ass.

Lisa should have been the one to be fired. She's a Jackie-ass-kissing trouble maker. I can't stand that pathetic chick.

I really like this show and it's a shame that's it's headed downhill. I suspect by the negative comments on this board and blog that it won't be returning next season, but perhaps it's a little premature to make that call. Anyway, if it does return for Season 4, perhaps we'll have less Jackie B.S. and more working out. I'm much more interested in hearing about Sky Lab and other Sky Sport clients than Jackie's disfunctional life or her "feel good" therapy sessions...
Pandorbox
I have just read Jackie's blog and I'm even more disgusted now. Is it too much to ask for a little humility? To say that if she had it to do over again she would handle it differently. Jackie says that she never personally liked Brian Peeler - who the heck cares - he's a good trainer that brings in clients. Jackie - you screwed up yet again. Get your ego in check.
quig
QUOTE (kriserkai @ May 7, 2008 - 01:27 AM) *
Called 310-652-7721 and left the following message on the Sky Sport voice mail...

Yes, I am in need of a personal trainer with integrity and wondered if you could forward me a phone number or email address for Brian Peeler???
quig
Peeler has his own business Peelerbuilt (the shirt that Jackie made him change in last episode) his own web site Brianpeeler.com and his own my space page
court224
Dearest Jackie-
You were out of line with Brian- very unprofessional and I hope you have realized that. Jamie Eason is an amazing person- maybe you could get some body building tips from her. You should have been honored she came to your disfunctional gym. Your assistant or whatever her position is, showed more class than you by owning up to her wrongdoing!!! But then again- not in any of the episodes have I seen you to have class. I think your ego has gotten ahead of you for the millionth time. All I have to say is Karma!


Let's see how your clothing line sells with the NEGATIVE energy behind it!
court224
That's awesome that you called and asked for Brian's info.!
Qwacker
Is everyone for sure Brian is gone for good? Maybe Jackie will realize her mistake and redeem herself.
KariAna
You must be watching a different show than I am the others who

are angry about this have been watching. No way this show has

been anything but the Jackie Warner Show. Peeler is an emotional

man which is a hard kind of man to find. Jackie doesn't like him because

he and she are so much alike. Jackie is projecting and does not live

in reality. She thinks she is perfect and everyone else is disrespectful.

If Bravo does have complete editing control why would they have

edited out what was said? It would have made better drama for us

all to see and hear what happened. No one but Jackie edited the

truth of the matter out.

Kari Ana


QUOTE (WONDER WOMAN @ May 7, 2008 - 01:03 PM) *
LISA and Jackie were talking about the womans (client) boobs.....They did not know that she was a cancer surviver..Hell, maybe lisa liked them and wished that her boobs were that perky....WE do not know, becuse the editing this season is terrible.....like the American media, sound bites, taken out of context. I do not believe, for one single second, that jackie and lisa new the woman had cancer, and decided to make fun of the clients boobs........Come on people...bravo has done nothing but edit this show this season as a tabloid spectacle...makes me sad. season one and 2 were pretty good
As far as Peeler goes,I for one am glad that is over..should have happened 2 seasons ago....peeler always struck me as really desparate to be on tv. He thought it was the Brian Peeler show....it was not.....Get your own dam show brian..get your own gym, and do what you want......in this gym you were an employee. a subordinate. it is not good or bad, it is just what is so.
littlestich
Jackie,

Let's face facts, honey. You're not God. Although you play him at work, he's not particularily happy with your portrayal.

How ironic that there is no reprimand for Lisa who made grossly inappropriate comments about a Brian's client, but Brian was fired for asking to DISCUSS the problem. Unreal. I guess its your gym. Do what you want...I'm sure after seeing your warped management style many of your patrons will consider if they want to be treated like that poor cancer survivor. (By the way - SHAME ON BRAVO for not airing the comments. What are ya hiding?)

You know, as a reality tv fan, I'm easily amused and rarely offended. Congratulations - you pushed all the right buttons to actually make me mad enough to post on my FIRST message board. Lisa had poor judgment in making stupid comments - people will forgive her. You - I don't think so. You've taken the fame and fortune we gave you and turned into an unfeeling, money-hungry egomaniac with no patience or tolerance to anyone not willing kiss your butt. It takes a lot to turn a fan against you - congratulations - you did it with me. You're reality isn't fun or interesting anymore. Its sick, twisted, and I for one hope this is the last season Bravo gives you to inflate your ego.

GO TEAM PEELER!
tangerine7199
There is something incredibly destructive if you always apologize or if you never apologize. Jackie's problem is the latter. Everyone just should have gone in separate rooms with a punching bag and gotten back together to discuss things calmly.

this show was supposed to be a ground for you to get your business started and get some press. it will do nothing but crumble after everyone has seen how heartless and unprofessional you are. none of us are perfect. if a six year old kid gets that i don't see why you cant.
CatchyUsername
QUOTE
Let's face facts, honey. You're not God. Although you play him at work, he's not particularily happy with your portrayal.


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The rest of your comments were brilliant, but this one just cracked me up!
sadexfan
As most of you, I have just created an account after this episode. I was appalled at last nights show. I have sent an e-mail to Bravo and to Propel. Will it do any good? I doubt it. However, it does make me feel better. First off, you would think that between Jackie and Lisa they would have some idea about prejudice. One is a lesbian and one is african-american. They are both in groups of people that have seen a lot of prejudice. Why then would they take it upon themselves to show prejudice to another over her choice of what she does with her body? Why when you run a gym would you ever talk about anyone or their body? Secondly, as someone stated about the pain that you go through with breast implants after a mastectomy I have to really admire anyone who looks like Jamie does. Did anyone else notice that it was making her physically sick to workout? She told Brian that she was nauseous and went into the bathroom. But she kept on training. What a trooper she is. She is definitely someone that Jackie could learn a lesson from. I would love to see Brian on his own show. He does have a lot of drama but I wonder how much of it is played up in the editing since Jackie clearly states that she never liked him or wanted him on the show but the producers wanted him on there. Maybe she wanted to make him look bad. However, I think in this instance it backfired. And as far as Lisa, what a troublemaker. I mean how old is she? She was probably like the kids I taught in kindergarten that always had to tattle. Enough ranting. As most of you, I am done with this show and Bravo if they continue with this show.
Noel Rae
QUOTE (littlestich @ May 7, 2008 - 03:10 PM) *
You know, as a reality tv fan, I'm easily amused and rarely offended. Congratulations - you pushed all the right buttons to actually make me mad enough to post on my FIRST message board.



I'm glad you said that. That's exactly how I felt last night when I logged on for my first time too. It takes a lot to get me upset.
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