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sfekty
QUOTE (SivartAlappes @ May 1, 2008 - 07:17 PM) *
Well, I keep dangerous foods from contaminating one another. I'm not STUPID! But when working in the restraunt, I cared more about getting the customers their food in a nice quick manner. Cleaning the station between each plate would make food take more time to get out.


Sorry, but I think a chef should care about both. I'm glad you are careful about cross contamination.
Kristlkrost
QUOTE (bJason @ May 1, 2008 - 08:33 PM) *
Whatever you say, dear. I am glad that you can bring all of your experience to this endeavor. Best of luck. Hopefully you can bring your GF to TC and ask her what to cook anytime you need input.

smile.gif smile.gif


You are SO neat and tidy.

The poifect gay b/f!!

Please nip somewhere......Please??? wink.gif




SivartAlappes
QUOTE (bJason @ May 1, 2008 - 08:33 PM) *
Whatever you say, dear. I am glad that you can bring all of your experience to this endeavor. Best of luck. Hopefully you can bring your GF to TC and ask her what to cook anytime you need input.

smile.gif smile.gif



I'm only asking for input on what to cook for my audition to get myself on the show. I'm confident that once on the show I can make it into at least the top 8. I probably won't WIN being I'd likely be the only non-chef on the show, but I think I'd last quite a while.

I'm a good cook. I'm good with flavors and seasoning. And I'm very creative. I'm constantly trying new combination and coming up with new dishes. So I think I'd definantly excell on Top Chef.
bJason
QUOTE (sfekty @ May 1, 2008 - 08:33 PM) *
Sorry, but I think a chef should care about both. I'm glad you are careful about cross contamination.


Agreed! In fact, BOTH should be second nature. Would you want to have your "field wound" dressed by one who didn't clean up after hir-self (regardless of how "timely" and wonderful s/he was)?
bJason
QUOTE (SivartAlappes @ May 1, 2008 - 08:41 PM) *
I'm only asking for input on what to cook for my audition to get myself on the show. I'm confident that once on the show I can make it into at least the top 8. I probably won't WIN being I'd likely be the only non-chef on the show, but I think I'd last quite a while.

I'm a good cook. I'm good with flavors and seasoning. And I'm very creative. I'm constantly trying new combination and coming up with new dishes. So I think I'd definantly excell on Top Chef.


And should you excel, we can all say we knew you when...
bJason
QUOTE (Kristlkrost @ May 1, 2008 - 08:40 PM) *
You are SO neat and tidy.

The poifect gay b/f!!

Please nip somewhere......Please??? wink.gif






Kisses all over, darling!
Mluv
QUOTE (partsgirl @ May 1, 2008 - 07:31 PM) *
Ya know... I'm 35 and even I can not believe how much things have changed. We didn't have malls. My grandmother had milk delivery up into the '80's. We didn't have a thousand tv channels or video games and we played outdoors! The good old days really weren't that long ago. Heck, I got bent out of shape when Quik starting coming in a plastic container!



...And the price of milk!
I was listening to the radio this morning about the price increase of produce! So that EC from last night, 10 Dollars could only get you started with dinner!
Kristlkrost
QUOTE (bJason @ May 1, 2008 - 08:42 PM) *
Agreed! In fact, BOTH should be second nature. Would you want to have your "field wound" dressed by one who didn't clean up after hir-self (regardless of how "timely" and wonderful s/he was)?


You know I'm with you here.....For SURE!!!!

As my dorky husband used to say

He was my manager and I was his waitress....another country song


If there's time for leanin' there's time for cleanin'.....Owww we hated him tongue.gif

In a middle of a slammed rush
faggedabout it!
86 cleanin' for real.
But soon after neat freak guy biggrin.gif




Hey Slvapple..Listen to bJ.
Seriously...He is about the only person I
have known in a long time who REALLY knows restaurants and maybe Tele.
They really get it......ALL of it.
Kristlkrost
QUOTE (bJason @ May 1, 2008 - 08:46 PM) *
Kisses all over, darling!


Yes I know and nice.. h-o hum
yes yes ..buh'

No nips???? tongue.gif

A goil likes a little nibble every
now and again sailor man wub.gif

Boop boop de boop.





MicrowaveHo
QUOTE (chucole @ April 30, 2008 - 08:33 PM) *
Bag that push up bra MH

AHAHAAHAAHAHA Chucole-- if I could find an over the shoulder torpedo holder that big, I would buy it in a heartbeat & wear it to parties.
MicrowaveHo
QUOTE (notevayas @ April 30, 2008 - 08:34 PM) *
Antonia is the most conventionally attractive woman competing this season. She'll get more "face time" if only for that. Why didn't she win a prize?

Stephanie has done better overall than Mark, but I don't have to taste chicken in peanut butter sauce over mushy overcooked couscous to know that it was foul.

So some weeks the guidelines matter and some weeks the best tasting dish matters, depending on which chef the judges prefer overall. I guess this is to prevent someone like Nikki from winning by being lucky?

Ya know what? I'm not even going to pretend like I know what is going on in the judges minds. But peanut butter & tomatoes does sound barfalicious.

I think we've just landed ourselves in the Land of confusion. wacko.gif
MicrowaveHo
QUOTE (BreBaby @ April 30, 2008 - 08:35 PM) *
Alright, I think I'm out. My accounting test calls & I'm workin at 6:30 in the morning...
Have a good night all!
Thanks for the drinks Parts!!

Peace.

Let us know your score. We so nosey!! Okay, I am. blush.gif
MicrowaveHo
QUOTE (notevayas @ April 30, 2008 - 08:46 PM) *
How are you coping with the cast? Is it decorated yet?
Are you going to get a tattoo to disguise any scar?
Inquiring minds want to Know! laugh.gif

Funny you should ask that... as my Doc Martini (that's not his name but his name does rhyme with that. hee hee) was the first one to draw on my cast. He drew 2 graphic pictures of the breaks in my tibia & fibula on their respective sides of my cast. Then he wrote the wrong date of 3/23/08 across the front. (It was 4/23/08) But I shall not correct him as he is grumpy enough as it is. I swear it will be my job to make him smile at least once before my time ends with him.

My cast is kinda decorated, but I will give you an update after tomorrow night. That is when my ppl from work are coming over to pay me a visit. They are bringing margaritas, so i'm expecting some x-rated pictures. LOL

I am tattoo-free right now & i have no idea what the scars are going to look like. But I will fer sure keep you updated. cool.gif
KSBEAR
QUOTE (KSboy @ May 1, 2008 - 06:02 PM) *
OK, I've finally gotten through all the posts on this thread, so I will add a few disjointed thoughts of my own:

First, like dcjew/simplebear, I really liked this episode. I liked its focus on real-world, down-to-earth food realities -- i.e., how to cook a good, wholesome, nutritious meal for a family that is on a budget and needs something that the kids will eat without complaining. As someone who personally buys organic as much as possible and only grows organically in my garden, I loved the fact that this challenge was more concerned with health and nutrition than high-brow gimmickry. (I think that Richard is one of the most talented of this season's contestants, as were Marcel and Hung in the seasons before, but I honestly find myself gagging when they seem to revel in chemical cooking, rather than bringing out the natural, wonderful flavors of foods.)

Second, I can't help but agree with the numerous posters who found it ironic that the cooking on a budget challenge involved shopping at Whole Foods. It would have been a bit more real-world to march everyone down to Aldi's, a discount food chain that I know has at least a few stores in the Chicago area since some of my in-laws shop there. (But, since Whole Foods is one of the corporate sponsors of the Top Chef, I guess there's no way around that limitation.)

Third, after reading all last week's posts, I finally got convinced of the "worst dish loses" theory of judging. After this week's show, I'm not so convinced anymore. Up until last night, Stephanie was one of the three chefs I thought most likely to win (along with Richard and Dale). But last night, it is hard to believe that her food was not the absolute worst. The judges don't use words like "detest" unless something is really, horribly bad. I can't help believe that the judges chose to save someone who was the worst in one week because she has such a strong history of earlier performance (much like when Richard was saved despite the scales on his fish).

I think that, instead of eliminating one person with a really, really bad dish but otherwise proven culinary skills, they chose to eliminate someone with a record of nothing but mediocrity. The highest praise I recall Mark ever receiving was for making a dish where the NZ version of Vegemite actually, supposedly tasted good.

For me, however, the truth is that, if the judges were going to eliminate someone even if s/he did not produce the worst food, I wish they would have canned the chef whose last success was cooking bacon and who otherwise has demonstrated little other than having the absolutely most horrible personality in the history of Top Chef.


Hey, KS...good to see you back on the boards. How was the vacation?

I have to say I agree with you. This week the weaker dish didn't go home. Lisa is good TV...Stephanie had an off week...poor Mark didn't have enough protien.

Great to see you here...How are things, my friend?
MicrowaveHo
QUOTE (helencrump @ April 30, 2008 - 09:12 PM) *
Hey, MicrowaveHo,

I saw your latest casting pic, and I just want to extend good wishes for your recuperation and happy times during such.

So, do what the doctor says and quit your whiny ass antics . . . get well!


So, good wishes for a happy recovery and let everybody do for you as they offer!!

It's a good thing!!

Ha ha Helen.... not sure if these qualify for "whiney assed antics" just letting my friends know what happened to me.

Perhaps I should've PMed them all.

yeah... fark that shite, this way was faster
SivartAlappes
QUOTE (Kristlkrost @ May 1, 2008 - 09:05 PM) *
You know I'm with you here.....For SURE!!!!

As my dorky husband used to say

He was my manager and I was his waitress....another country song


If there's time for leanin' there's time for cleanin'.....Owww we hated him tongue.gif

In a middle of a slammed rush
faggedabout it!
86 cleanin' for real.
But soon after neat freak guy biggrin.gif




Hey Slvapple..Listen to bJ.
Seriously...He is about the only person I
have known in a long time who REALLY knows restaurants and maybe Tele.
They really get it......ALL of it.



BJ implied (well... more like said straight out) that since I don't keep my station squeeky clean I must be a hack. That doesn't sit too well with me, as I know I'm NOT a hack. My editing bay is messy as all hell too... that doesn't mean I'm not a good filmmaker though!
jypsie
QUOTE (Radyms13 @ April 30, 2008 - 08:17 PM) *
And I bet you wouldn't have yelled *Tofu*!!!


Tofu is the first thing i would have yelled, though as a vegan, I know I'm not the target demographic for any cooking show. I'm constantly waiting and hoping to see some professionals give tofu a chance. It's a great ingredient because you can do anything with it - give it a variety of textures depending on the preparation, and an infinite variety of flavors depending on the seasoning.
I thought that Dale and his partner were very clever with the tofu regarding the rules of this contest - though now they just need to make it in a way that a vegan would eat it. I mean, face it, in a restaurant situation, no vegetarian would eat beef tofu, and you'd have a hard time convincing most carnivores to eat beefy tofu when they could just have the beef.
Anyone who says tofu sucks has just never had it made well before. Like any other protein, if it's not made well, yes, it sucks. When properly pressed and marinated, it can be crunchy on the outside, juicy on the inside, with plenty of flavor. Plenty of meats can be flavorless if they're not made well.
ITSJUSTMEAOD
QUOTE (BravoBoardBoss @ April 30, 2008 - 08:06 PM) *
HERE YE!!!! HERE YE!!!
THREE JUDGES REDEFINE THE TERM VEGITARIAN
Discuss the episode.


YEAH WHAT'S UP WITH THAT ???????

VEGITARIAN CURRY....................

AND WHERE'S THE PROTEIN ???????? tongue.gif

GUESS MARK SHOULD HAVE PUT IN SOME

????????????MEAT??????????? EH laugh.gif

MORAL TO THE ISSUE

NEVER LET A KID DISCRIBE THE DISH

ALLOW THE VAGUE "VEGITABLE CURRY" TITLE

GET MISCONSTRUED wink.gif laugh.gif

ALSO................HAVE TO ADD

IT IS KINDA SORTA TOUGH TO FLAVOR EDAMAME...

IT'S A LARGE BEAN.....USUALLY TAKEN IN WITH

THE KNOWLEDGE OF IT'S NATURAL FLAVOR

HECK MAYBE THEY SHOULD HAVE MASHED THEM laugh.gif

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN
ITSJUSTMEAOD
QUOTE (daverocks @ April 30, 2008 - 09:19 PM) *
yeah, it's just that he is from New Zealand. It's charming

HEY DR

WAS IT YOU ALONG WITH NOTE AND LADY BRILL

THAT HAD THAT CHAT ABOUT DAMN YANKEES??? biggrin.gif

IF IT WAS.........WELL

THAT'S THE FEATURED CHOREOGRAPHY

FOR SUAD wink.gif

GOOD STUFF

I LIKE THAT SHOW

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN

P.S. SINCE I JUMPED IN ON YOUR CONVO ABOUT MARK.....WILL SAY THIS........HE'S THE ONLY ONE
WITH A "CIVIL" VOCABULARY biggrin.gif....DON'T THINK I HEARD ONE CUSS WORD OUT OF HIS MOUTH
ITSJUSTMEAOD
QUOTE (MicrowaveHo @ May 1, 2008 - 10:28 PM) *
Ha ha Helen.... not sure if these qualify for "whiney assed antics" just letting my friends know what happened to me.

Perhaps I should've PMed them all.

yeah... fark that shite, this way was faster

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

YOU TAKE OUTSIDE OPINIONS MH???? wink.gif

I AGREE WITH YOUR LAST STATEMENT laugh.gif

AND I'VE NEVER DETECTED WHINING FROM YOU

(I'VE SEEN MUCH WORSE) laugh.gif

BUT I THINK HELEN WAS GIVIN YA SOME HEAT biggrin.gif

NOW GETTING OUT OF PENCIL RANGE

NAHNY NAHNY BOO BOO GIMPY wink.gif

YOU CANNOT STAB ME laugh.gif

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN
ITSJUSTMEAOD
QUOTE (MicrowaveHo @ May 1, 2008 - 09:45 PM) *
AHAHAAHAAHAHA Chucole-- if I could find an over the shoulder torpedo holder that big, I would buy it in a heartbeat & wear it to parties.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM...

EBAY???????????????

wink.gif

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN
ITSJUSTMEAOD
QUOTE (MicrowaveHo @ May 1, 2008 - 09:50 PM) *
Ya know what? I'm not even going to pretend like I know what is going on in the judges minds. But peanut butter & tomatoes does sound barfalicious.

I think we've just landed ourselves in the Land of confusion. wacko.gif

HECK MH

IT WAS JUST A BADLY CONCIEVED EPISODE

PLAIN WIERD ............ tongue.gif

AS PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE SEASON HAS PLAYED OUT TO BE

PREVIOUS SEASONS THEY START OUT WITH MEAGER

BUDGETS TO WORK WITH

THIS SEASON HOWEVER.....THEY HAVE CHANGED UP

ALLOWING BETTER INGREDIENTS SLIGHTLY MORE GENEROUS BUDGETS IN THE GET GO

NOW TO SHOCK THEM WITH 10 BUCKS TO MAKE

A FAMILY MEAL tongue.gif

THAT'S THE LONG AND THE SHORT OF IT

BUT .......STILL SHOULD NOT DETER THE CONTESTANTS

OF PERFORMING ......PROVIDING THEY HAD THE SKILL TO DO SO

ANOTHER FACT WHICH COMES INTO QUESTION

MANY HAVE SAID THEY HAVE CHILDHOOD EXPERIENCES

WHICH INSPIRED THEM TO BECOME WHAT THEY ARE

HAVE TO SAY..........

EITHER THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN THOSE EXPERIENCES

OR THERE WASN'T MUCH PUT ON THE TABLE biggrin.gif

BUT HEY

THAT'S THE WAY I SEE IT

COULD BE WRONG

BUT COMPARED TO ONE OF LAST SEASON WHO

SAID THE SAME THING

THE CONTESTANTS DON'T HOLD A MATCH TO THAT

GUYS MONKEY'S CANDLE

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN
ITSJUSTMEAOD
QUOTE (partsgirl @ May 1, 2008 - 05:15 PM) *
Uhhh, nope! It reminds me too much of my aunt's name.

laugh.gif

DAAAANG IT .......THIS IS WHERE I GOT ALL

OFF KILTER laugh.gif

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO........K

AUNT'S NAME EH PG biggrin.gif

GONNA GUESS

PHYLIS OR........................

PHALIC laugh.gif

BUT HEY ........................

YOU CAN STILL USE EM HERE ALONG WITH

PENIS wink.gif

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN
ITSJUSTMEAOD
QUOTE (NiCi @ May 1, 2008 - 05:17 PM) *
Classic! My hat is off to you!
(don't we wish Spike would do the same, permanently!)

UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WAS THAT A REALLY GOOD THING NIC?? laugh.gif

DID YOU SEE HIS CAMEO THIS EPISODE???

NO HAT.......................................

BUT HELLOOO OOOOO

BAD HAIR DAY laugh.gif

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN
ITSJUSTMEAOD
QUOTE (partsgirl @ May 1, 2008 - 06:02 PM) *
LOL! So did mine. It is still a staple though and can stretch a chicken. Notice to all... I did not say choke.


DUELY NOTED..........................

PG DOES NOT CHOKE HER CHICKEN....laugh.gif

MAKES ONE WONDER THOUGH wink.gif

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN
ITSJUSTMEAOD
QUOTE (partsgirl @ May 1, 2008 - 06:05 PM) *
Ohhh. That wildcat has been around...

some cheeks

and missed out on a few others

MAN PG

SEEMS THIS MORNING I MISSED ALOT AS WELL laugh.gif

SO FAR ABOUT ONE AND A HALF PAGES blush.gif

WHAT CAN I SAY................

MY BAD...........biggrin.gif

TOLD YA I'M NOT TOO GOOD AT THE LIVE CHAT STUFF

GONNA KEEP READING

AND TRY TO KETCHUP BEST I CAN laugh.gif

HAVE TO ADMIT YOU AND NIC PLUS PITA SURE MADE IT FUN biggrin.gif

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN
ITSJUSTMEAOD
QUOTE (partsgirl @ May 1, 2008 - 06:09 PM) *
Confoundus say:
One cannot do
What one does not have wink.gif

DO NOTICE CONFOUNDUS

HAD NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT "SEEING" laugh.gif

AND.................................

AREOLAS wink.gif

THEY GET PERKY DON'T THEY laugh.gif

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN
ITSJUSTMEAOD
QUOTE (partsgirl @ May 1, 2008 - 07:14 PM) *
Oh no, JME. Not Elaine! Oh, say it ain't so.

laugh.gif

I'M TAKIN THE FIFTH................laugh.gif

JUST GONNA SAY

SHE HAD ME HYPNOTISED WITH HER DANCE STYLE laugh.gif

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN
teleburst
QUOTE (KSBEAR @ May 1, 2008 - 05:59 PM) *
Actually if you think back, Pat Robertson was condemned as a nut ball by all news media - liberal or conservative. And, yes, they did run it over and over. Have you forgotten the man ran for President while doing this? LOL And, please, I'm not joining in on a war. Just making a slight correction. You are both very entitled to your opinions.


I guess you remember things differently than I do. I don't remember nearly the frequency of clips, the number of talking heads debating the effect of his comments on the American psyche, the postulating that he was anti-American for saying these things, etc.

And the fact that he was running for president himself should have made the scruity even more important. Of course, the fact that he was a marginal candidate factored into that.

I guess it's just my own perspective about how it's being spun, but I don't think I'm alone.

BTW, I respect McCain for taking the high road, but of course he can do that since all of the side groups are virtually uncontrollable and will Swift Boat Obama in the fal. I just hope it backfires (but I have my doubts).
teleburst
QUOTE (WhataJoke @ May 1, 2008 - 06:10 PM) *
I either expect no responce or another attempt at revisionist history.

Good effort though


Well, more likely, it was a case of the editing fairies pushing the "I don't want to use Polish sausage" angle. For all we know, this was a conversation about not liking Polish sausage and the SSes deciding to add a more flavorful sausage to make it more flavorful but the actual purchase and use of the Polish wasn't included because it detracted from the drama aspect of the chorizo.

I'm guessing that Ted knows two sausages when he sees and tastes it on his plate, especially when they're as different as chorizo and Polish sausage are. He even referred to some blog photograph that shows the Polish sausage being prepared by the SSes.

The alternative is that Ted would be willing to lie to protect the producers and I'm just not willing to go there, especially since he seems a little disgruntled with them right now. I think that's he's pretty independent.

Also, everyone who's hung up on rules should read the first part of the current blog. He pretty much says what I've said is the case with the judging and what seems to me to be the correct way to judge a show like this one.
woshkie
QUOTE (notevayas @ May 1, 2008 - 05:08 PM) *
It's a pandering to fear. Everyone says they want change, but faced with the possibility, run scared to the devil they think they know.

I'm voting for Obama to end the war/occupation.



Me too! I have tried to stop watching the news and reading anything about this "campaign". Everyone is eating themselves alive, the media is foaming at the mouth with this new "Tabloidization of America" and all I know is I am sick of it. We get what we deserve. ie: George W Bush.
NiCi
QUOTE (ITSJUSTMEAOD @ May 2, 2008 - 02:18 AM) *
UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WAS THAT A REALLY GOOD THING NIC?? laugh.gif

DID YOU SEE HIS CAMEO THIS EPISODE???

NO HAT.......................................

BUT HELLOOO OOOOO

BAD HAIR DAY laugh.gif

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN


Maybe his head is just permanently shaped like that... Hence the hats?
(Then at least you would think he could get decent looking hats!!!) laugh.gif
NiCi
QUOTE (ITSJUSTMEAOD @ May 2, 2008 - 02:40 AM) *
MAN PG

SEEMS THIS MORNING I MISSED ALOT AS WELL laugh.gif

SO FAR ABOUT ONE AND A HALF PAGES blush.gif

WHAT CAN I SAY................

MY BAD........... biggrin.gif

TOLD YA I'M NOT TOO GOOD AT THE LIVE CHAT STUFF

GONNA KEEP READING

AND TRY TO KETCHUP BEST I CAN laugh.gif

HAVE TO ADMIT YOU AND NIC PLUS PITA SURE MADE IT FUN biggrin.gif

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN


It was fun to have you in the live chat too, we must do it more often! biggrin.gif
Kristlkrost
QUOTE (SivartAlappes @ May 1, 2008 - 11:38 PM) *
BJ implied (well... more like said straight out) that since I don't keep my station squeeky clean I must be a hack. That doesn't sit too well with me, as I know I'm NOT a hack. My editing bay is messy as all hell too... that doesn't mean I'm not a good filmmaker though!


I didn't read that ......sorry.
BUT paper and such is not food.
Being neat and clean in a restaurant is VERY important for so many reasons....I didn't get that till I ws a bit older either.But even
in offices.....We had safety training a couple of days ago and even paper and such can be dangerous.....They take safety and trips and falls very seriously at big companies.

Not just safety alone.
Of course it gets messy when slammed.
But as soon as that is over..get busy cleaning. It's a nightmare for a manager who cares to see messy stations...bJ owned a restaurant and so did I with my hubby....OSHA laws and just all around you godda keep it clean.
If a customer sees a mess....you gonna' go back??? Seriously....it's a statistic.
They won't.

If he called you a hack then I'm gonna' pinch him for you....I really really want to pinch him tongue.gif

I 'm sure he didn't come out and say it....but..........lol

I've been reading you and you are great except
for your evil messy ways. laugh.gif

I'm gonna' go watch your movie now!!!

Welcome to the boards.
ITSJUSTMEAOD
QUOTE (BravoBoardBoss @ April 30, 2008 - 08:06 PM) *
Discuss the episode.

MAN THE MORE CHEF TOM JUDGES

I HAVE TO WONDER ..................

HAS HE LOST HIS OBJECTIVITY ?

ALMOST EVERY EPISODE THIS SEASON

THOUGH THE CONTESTANTS HAVE SAID THEY

SEASONED AND TASTED THIER FOOD

HE SAYS IT WAS BLAND tongue.gif

HECK EITHER HE IS AN ALCHIE . DRUGGIE. OR SMOKER

BUT MAYBE HE SHOULD SCRAPE HIS TONGUE

AND INDULGE IN A GALLON OF SORBET

BEFORE AN EPISODE

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN
ITSJUSTMEAOD
QUOTE (NiCi @ May 2, 2008 - 03:19 AM) *
Maybe his head is just permanently shaped like that... Hence the hats?


laugh.gif

IT SURE IS POSSIBLE laugh.gif

NO ONE KNOWS FOR SURE

CEPT HIS HAIRDRESSER wink.gif

QUOTE
(Then at least you would think he could get decent looking hats!!!) laugh.gif


AND THERE "IS" THE TICKET EH NIC laugh.gif

FEDORA'S AND THE GOLDEN POND FONDA LOOK

IS KINDA OK.........................

BUT AWFUL FUNKY IN A KITCHEN laugh.gif

WHICH BRINGS IN ANOTHER DELEMA

ANDREW'S BRAIN DAMAGE laugh.gif

THE HELMET..........CHIN STRAP

AND LATEST STATEMENT

HE HAS A CULINARY BONER laugh.gif

ME THINKS THIS GUY IS ON THE WRONG SHOW

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN
ITSJUSTMEAOD
QUOTE (NiCi @ May 2, 2008 - 03:20 AM) *
It was fun to have you in the live chat too, we must do it more often! biggrin.gif

YUPS

I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING IT AGAIN biggrin.gif

JUST SO HAPPENED I JUST CHUCKED ALL RESPONCIBILITY TODAY

AS WEDNESDAY TURNED OUT TO BE ONE OF THEM DAYS wink.gif

NOT SURE WHEN I CAN DO THAT AGAIN

AS I MENTIONED TO PG ONCE

THAT IN MY BUSINESS DAYLIGHT IS IMPORTANT

BUT HECK TODAY WAS ONE OF THE EXCEPTIONS I MAKE FOR MYSELF biggrin.gif

AND MUST SAY .......HAD ALOT OF FUN

RIGHT UP TO WHEN THE FORMAT OF THE BOARDS

BURIED THE CONVO laugh.gif

I HAVE TO ADMIT THEM PAGES DON'T FLIP AS FAST

LATE AT NIGHT wink.gif

BUT WILL TRY MY BEST TO KEEP UP WITH YA ALL

NEXT TIME

NO PROMISES ON WHEN

BUT PRETTY SURE THERE WILL BE ONE

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN
notevayas
QUOTE (ITSJUSTMEAOD @ May 2, 2008 - 04:05 AM) *
MAN THE MORE CHEF TOM JUDGES

I HAVE TO WONDER ..................

HAS HE LOST HIS OBJECTIVITY ?

ALMOST EVERY EPISODE THIS SEASON

THOUGH THE CONTESTANTS HAVE SAID THEY

SEASONED AND TASTED THIER FOOD

HE SAYS IT WAS BLAND tongue.gif

HECK EITHER HE IS AN ALCHIE . DRUGGIE. OR SMOKER

BUT MAYBE HE SHOULD SCRAPE HIS TONGUE

AND INDULGE IN A GALLON OF SORBET

BEFORE AN EPISODE

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH

TAKE CARE OVER THERE

ALOHA

HAVE FUN


It's a fact. Older people lose their sense of taste. And wear hats.
Kristlkrost
HAPPY BIRTHDAY CHERYLDACTYL

Darlin' I hope you are reading.
You are one of the most missed peeps 'round here.

I'm inviting you to your own party and
we will have

CAAAAAKE!!!!!!!!!

Mwaaaaaah if you are reading.
You are a luv.




SimonBao
Second, you asked what people would do for the QC and EC. I had a thought. I think Mark got at least one foot headed in the right direction on his Quickfire, and just took a wrong turn.

He could have taken that turkey breast cutlet, cut in half, pounded them thin into medallions, and made a quick version of Turkey Marsala within his 15 minutes. In Pan #1 get his turkey sauteeing, in Pan #2 get his mushrooms cooking, add some garlic and shallots and basil when the shrooms are cooked and caramelizing, get the cooked turkey medallions out of Pan #1, deglaze it with the Marsala and dump that into Pan #2, mix some cornstarch with some turkey broth or chicken broth or even mushroom stock, add that to Pan #2. Meanwhile, in Pan #3 already be "melting" some finely minced shallots, just before time runs out add to that pan some watercress and arugula, and some baby spinach too if you want less peppery greens. Those cook in a hot pan in 1.5 minutes, boom.

So, he'd have the rice, some tender moist turkey marsala with abundant sauce and mushrooms, and some instant-cooking greens on the plate as well.
bJason
QUOTE (SivartAlappes @ May 1, 2008 - 11:38 PM) *
BJ implied (well... more like said straight out) that since I don't keep my station squeeky clean I must be a hack. That doesn't sit too well with me, as I know I'm NOT a hack. My editing bay is messy as all hell too... that doesn't mean I'm not a good filmmaker though!


What I said was one who doesn't keep a clean (nothing about squeeky) station LOOKS like a hack. My post was a bit harsh - snarky mood last night. I'm sure you're not a hack.

My sincerest apologies smile.gif smile.gif Really, best of luck!

I submit to KKs pinchings.
SecondTry
QUOTE (SimonBao @ May 2, 2008 - 07:57 AM) *
Second, you asked what people would do for the QC and EC. I had a thought. I think Mark got at least one foot headed in the right direction on his Quickfire, and just took a wrong turn.


To be accurate, someone else suggested it, and I was the first to respond.


QUOTE (SimonBao @ May 2, 2008 - 07:57 AM) *
He could have taken that turkey breast cutlet, cut in half, pounded them thin into medallions, and made a quick version of Turkey Marsala within his 15 minutes. In Pan #1 get his turkey sauteeing, in Pan #2 get his mushrooms cooking, add some garlic and shallots and basil when the shrooms are cooked and caramelizing, get the cooked turkey medallions out of Pan #1, deglaze it with the Marsala and dump that into Pan #2, mix some cornstarch with some turkey broth or chicken broth or even mushroom stock, add that to Pan #2. Meanwhile, in Pan #3 already be "melting" some finely minced shallots, just before time runs out add to that pan some watercress and arugula, and some baby spinach too if you want less peppery greens. Those cook in a hot pan in 1.5 minutes, boom.

So, he'd have the rice, some tender moist turkey marsala with abundant sauce and mushrooms, and some instant-cooking greens on the plate as well.


I'll be over with the camera in an hour. We're filming your audition video. That sounds absolutely yummy......
SimonBao
QUOTE (partsgirl @ May 1, 2008 - 04:22 PM) *
Simon, in my opinion, microwave rice is foul stuff. It is packed with enough sodium to cause sane dieticians to scream travesty. Some companies, like Uncle Bens, have a plain rice with out all that sodium, but honestly, it's not that hard to make real rice! I try very, very hard to stay away from the micro stuff. Now I have question for you. What makes corn bread packed with protein besides the single egg used to bind it together? Most recipes use about 1/3 cup corn meal, 1-2 cups white flour, 1/4 cup white sugar, a splash of milk (maybe a bit more) and one egg. Corn isn't a very healthy anything. It is simply sugar. So, am I missing something, here? Or were you implying the egg and milk?

Parts, last things first. Corn bread isn't packed with protein - but corn bread served right along with beans in chili, that specific combination is.

On its own, corn is just a cereal grain. All grains have *some* proteins in them, any *seed* of any plant does whether its a grain or a nut or a legume. Corn is an incomplete protein in that, by itself, it doesn't have all the essential amino acids humans need. But when corn is consumed in the same meal with beans, viola. Corn has the amino acids the beans are missing, beans have the amino acids the corn is missing. Serve corn and beans combined, and you're serving a complete protein. A combination that has kept people all over the Western Hemisphere fit and fed for around 10K years, even when they don't have access to a bit of meat or seafood.

As for the Uncle Ben's... I don't know if I have even tried even their regular products. Probably some of the wild rice stuff they make, but not microwave rices. There is one kind of "Rice in a Box" I like, it's the Rice-a-Roni Whole Grains Blend. It has brown rice, pearled barley, and pearled wheat, combined, and it is quite savory. What makes it convenient for me is that each of those 3 grains actually has a different cooking time, and making an identical side dish at home that combines the 3 grains is a true pain in the butt. I tried. The manufacturer does something to process the grains before they go in the box, so they finish cooking at the same time. Works well enough for me.
SimonBao
QUOTE (KSboy @ May 1, 2008 - 06:35 PM) *
I was surprised last night at the comments from the judges, and am also surprised today, at all the posted comments expressing shock at the combination of peanuts and tomatoes. I don't have one-thousandth the culinary knowledge you obviously have -- but I too have eaten dishes in West Africa with peanut butter and tomatoes, and have found them delicious. (By the way, I would love to see that list of recipes you mention -- I would love to try to replicate, allbeit amateurishly, some of the dishes I have loved in Africa.)

I got a lot of flack last week by suggesting that some foods just do not go well together. I was wrong in what I wrote, and I deserved the criticism I got. I think a similar lesson may apply here regarding Stephanie's misture of ingredients. It's not the combination of tomatoes and peanut butter that failed Stephanie. She just didn't do it in a successful way.

KS, if you leave me a pvt message and give me your email address, I'll forward the list of dishes and recipe locations for the All Africa Live 8 party. Do you know how to use the pvt message system here?

I am a bit stumped about what Stephie was up to with her peanut butter and tomatoes. If she knows about Mafe and groundnut stews and the way the flavors are combined in African dishes, then she knows she was no where close to approximating it. If she does not know about Mafe and similar dishes, or some other culinary combo of peanut butter and tomatoes - then what the heck was she up, where was she going with that thing?
SimonBao
QUOTE (SecondTry @ May 2, 2008 - 08:18 AM) *
To be accurate, someone else suggested it, and I was the first to respond.

I'll be over with the camera in an hour. We're filming your audition video. That sounds absolutely yummy......

Jim, you know the problem is that I really don't respond to pressure. Or think quickly on my feet. I'd be the cheftestant who actually spent his 15 minutes staring into the coolers and pantry.

Turkey marsala, however, really IS good. Nope, it's not veal marsala, and it can't pretend to be. But on its own merits, it's soooo good. You could serve me a bowl of the sauce and some bread and I'd sit there dipping and eating.
SimonBao
QUOTE (jypsie @ May 2, 2008 - 12:54 AM) *
Anyone who says tofu sucks has just never had it made well before. Like any other protein, if it's not made well, yes, it sucks. When properly pressed and marinated, it can be crunchy on the outside, juicy on the inside, with plenty of flavor. Plenty of meats can be flavorless if they're not made well.

I think that a lot of Americans have seen or heard about Bad Tofu too often, and that's why some are so predisposed against it. I have to be honest, looking at how my future sister-in-law treats Tofu, looking at recipes from my housemates' old "Whole Vegan Earth" and "Small Nutty Planet" type cookbooks, I wouldn't want to try eating it either. I don't know this to be the case, but I have the impression that some cooks got hold of Tofu at some point in the past and just started winging it... without examining how different kinds of Tofu are used in different ways, back in lands that tofu calls home.

In Vietnamese cooking, Tofu is a meat substitute only for some people. The rest of the time it's an inexpensive protein. We have a stuffed tofu dish, the tofu is seared on the outside so it's crispy, then stuffed with seasoned ground pork and mushrooms and sometimes shrimp, then braised in a fresh tomato sauce with lots of tomatoes and scallion and shallots, etc... I think there are similar dishes all over SE Asia, and it's just soooo good.
SimonBao
QUOTE (KSboy @ May 1, 2008 - 07:02 PM) *
Third, after reading all last week's posts, I finally got convinced of the "worst dish loses" theory of judging. After this week's show, I'm not so convinced anymore. Up until last night, Stephanie was one of the three chefs I thought most likely to win (along with Richard and Dale). But last night, it is hard to believe that her food was not the absolute worst. The judges don't use words like "detest" unless something is really, horribly bad. I can't help believe that the judges chose to save someone who was the worst in one week because she has such a strong history of earlier performance (much like when Richard was saved despite the scales on his fish).

I think that, instead of eliminating one person with a really, really bad dish but otherwise proven culinary skills, they chose to eliminate someone with a record of nothing but mediocrity. The highest praise I recall Mark ever receiving was for making a dish where the NZ version of Vegemite actually, supposedly tasted good.

For me, however, the truth is that, if the judges were going to eliminate someone even if s/he did not produce the worst food, I wish they would have canned the chef whose last success was cooking bacon and who otherwise has demonstrated little other than having the absolutely most horrible personality in the history of Top Chef.

KS, you may want to hold on to the Worst Dish Loses theory, at least long enough to take a look at Colicchio's blog for this episode. In it, he says, "In retrospect, I think the episode was cut in a way that made it seem we took the greatest issue with Stephanie’s dish when in actuality, we debated long and hard about them all, and Mark’s emerged as the least favorite of the bunch."

That's at least consistent with what Gail says in her blog. "When criticized for not having enough protein in his Roasted Vegetables in Red Curry with Cucumber Salad and Garlic Naan, Mark claimed he did not feel the need to add meat to his vegetarian entrée. Never once did we insist meat was necessary either; there are plenty of ways to add protein without dropping steak in the center of the plate (think beans, tofu, nuts, and legumes)! His rebuttal seemed to miss the point we were making altogether. Our issue was that Mark’s food was not well planned. Compared to the other dishes we were served, his was the least complete. It was also the least liked by our young diners... We chose to eliminate Mark because, in addition to its lack of nutritional value, the curry he made was actually not very good."

Lee Anne says, "Mark was dead set on making his curry from the start. This reminds me of Micah, from last season. I love curry. However, most kids in this country are not raised eating curry. I understand the risk in trying to give them something new to eat, but when elimination is at stake, curry in a hurry is not so good... Mark’s curry was a tad rich and complex for this particular situation. Kids can be your toughest critics and one of the most important things for a chef is to recognize is who their audience is. I tasted the curry. It wasn’t bad. It wasn’t great either though. In the end, it was the least favorite of all of the dishes for the kids, and the judges agreed the same..."
Kristlkrost
QUOTE (SimonBao @ May 2, 2008 - 09:40 AM) *
KS, you may want to hold on to the Worst Dish Loses theory, at least long enough to take a look at Colicchio's blog for this episode. In it, he says, "In retrospect, I think the episode was cut in a way that made it seem we took the greatest issue with Stephanie's dish when in actuality, we debated long and hard about them all, and Mark's emerged as the least favorite of the bunch."

That's at least consistent with what Gail says in her blog. "When criticized for not having enough protein in his Roasted Vegetables in Red Curry with Cucumber Salad and Garlic Naan, Mark claimed he did not feel the need to add meat to his vegetarian entrée. Never once did we insist meat was necessary either; there are plenty of ways to add protein without dropping steak in the center of the plate (think beans, tofu, nuts, and legumes)! His rebuttal seemed to miss the point we were making altogether. Our issue was that Mark's food was not well planned. Compared to the other dishes we were served, his was the least complete. It was also the least liked by our young diners... We chose to eliminate Mark because, in addition to its lack of nutritional value, the curry he made was actually not very good."

Lee Anne says, "Mark was dead set on making his curry from the start. This reminds me of Micah, from last season. I love curry. However, most kids in this country are not raised eating curry. I understand the risk in trying to give them something new to eat, but when elimination is at stake, curry in a hurry is not so good... Mark's curry was a tad rich and complex for this particular situation. Kids can be your toughest critics and one of the most important things for a chef is to recognize is who their audience is. I tasted the curry. It wasn't bad. It wasn't great either though. In the end, it was the least favorite of all of the dishes for the kids, and the judges agreed the same..."


Thank you Simon ....I haven't had time to read them and thank you KSboy for pointing out that tomatoes and peanut butter sauce can be good thing.

No curry in a hurry.

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QUOTE (jypsie @ May 1, 2008 - 11:54 PM) *
Tofu is the first thing i would have yelled, though as a vegan, I know I'm not the target demographic for any cooking show. I'm constantly waiting and hoping to see some professionals give tofu a chance. It's a great ingredient because you can do anything with it - give it a variety of textures depending on the preparation, and an infinite variety of flavors depending on the seasoning.
I thought that Dale and his partner were very clever with the tofu regarding the rules of this contest - though now they just need to make it in a way that a vegan would eat it. I mean, face it, in a restaurant situation, no vegetarian would eat beef tofu, and you'd have a hard time convincing most carnivores to eat beefy tofu when they could just have the beef.
Anyone who says tofu sucks has just never had it made well before. Like any other protein, if it's not made well, yes, it sucks. When properly pressed and marinated, it can be crunchy on the outside, juicy on the inside, with plenty of flavor. Plenty of meats can be flavorless if they're not made well.


Welcome aboard!
I thought using beef fat to flavor the tofu was pretty brilliant but I completely understand your assertation. Why cook it in beef when card carrying Vegan/Vegetarians won't eat it and us meat eaters would perfer meat. I think it simply comes down to the nature of the challenge. It was a random thing yelled out so they could use it in any way they liked as long as it was featured. Also the term "perplexed" was supposed to be relivant to the dish and Tofu that tasted like beef would perplex me a bit. And I do enjoy tofu. But I'd also probably enjoy rubbing A1 on a cow and taking a bite out of it so go figure.

And I agree with you. Tofu does get a bad rap as it is pretty much a blank slate where a cooks skill can really shine interms of the flavors imparted to it. Richard really impressed me in that challenge.
WhataJoke
QUOTE (teleburst @ May 2, 2008 - 02:16 AM) *
The alternative is that Ted would be willing to lie to protect the producers and I'm just not willing to go there, especially since he seems a little disgruntled with them right now. I think that's he's pretty independent.

Also, everyone who's hung up on rules should read the first part of the current blog. He pretty much says what I've said is the case with the judging and what seems to me to be the correct way to judge a show like this one.


Maybe he's disgruntled because he has to carry the water for them in his blogs as well as his other reasons?

Yes that would be the exact way I would state the rules to if I was running this type of show. Why pigeon hole production and the overall product with cumbersome rules when you can be deliberately vague about them and mold them to your linking challenge to challenge.

Again the rules were pretty strict when Tom wanted to get rid of Dave, Mark and Ryan, but pretty lax when he wanted to keep Howie and the Sausage sisters.
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